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so i have been using my hd2 on att with edge for about a year now. ever since att starting switchin their towers for the backhaul for 4g i have lost lots of signal. anyone else experiencing this? any way to fix it

trueblood said:
so i have been using my hd2 on att with edge for about a year now. ever since att starting switchin their towers for the backhaul for 4g i have lost lots of signal. anyone else experiencing this? any way to fix it
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I read an article a couple of weeks ago that indicated that AT&T would be gradually phasing out edge.

stevedebi said:
I read an article a couple of weeks ago that indicated that AT&T would be gradually phasing out edge.
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jeez... I hope not...

trueblood said:
so i have been using my hd2 on att with edge for about a year now. ever since att starting switchin their towers for the backhaul for 4g i have lost lots of signal. anyone else experiencing this? any way to fix it
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me too. i thought it was just my phone with a hardware issue. im about to send off the phone for repair.
i get spotty EDGE, but mainly on GRPS
first it was the spotty 3G, now EDGE... Dam you At&t

sal2708 said:
me too. i thought it was just my phone with a hardware issue. im about to send off the phone for repair.
i get spotty EDGE, but mainly on GRPS
first it was the spotty 3G, now EDGE... Dam you At&t
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You must be talking about 3G on another device cause I know you are not getting 3G on the AT&T network using your HD2, that is unless you have the Austrialian model of the HD2.

T-Macgnolia said:
You must be talking about 3G on another device cause I know you are not getting 3G on the AT&T network using your HD2, that is unless you have the Austrialian model of the HD2.
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oh, sorry, lol im talking in general At&t's network
but once i went into roaming, and i had 3G lol

If AT&T removed EDGE off their network that would leave GSM, 3G, and HSPA+... Or isn't EDGE and upgraded GSM... So it would leave just 3G and HSPA+

they cant get rid off EDGE or GSM,
1) GSM is their network removing it would leave the option of CDMA
2) EDGE will be there as long as there is 3G available.

That's right, edge is just faster gprs. Both are part of the GSM type network.
You are probably just getting spotty service during the upgrade. Once they are done in your area you should be back to normal.
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well it seems my area will be gettinng 4G lol. cuz my service sucks $#%& at the moment.
i even called AT&T, *****ed them out too... HAHA got my self a new sim card. but im still sending the phone in for repair.

okay guys, MAJOR NEWS! T-Mobile US now belongs to AT&T.
does that mean that with in a year or so, our unlocked HD2 will be picking up AT&T 3G or HSPA+ since the T-Mobile spectrum now belongs to AT&T??

sal2708 said:
okay guys, MAJOR NEWS! T-Mobile US now belongs to AT&T.
does that mean that with in a year or so, our unlocked HD2 will be picking up AT&T 3G or HSPA+ since the T-Mobile spectrum now belongs to AT&T??
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AT&T does not own T mobile yet, they have put in an offer but it has ti be reviewed and approved by the SEC. To make sure that AT&T will not become a monopoly, because with this buy AT&T will leap over Verizon for the largest network by far.

trueblood said:
AT&T does not own T mobile yet, they have put in an offer but it has ti be reviewed and approved by the SEC. To make sure that AT&T will not become a monopoly, because with this buy AT&T will leap over Verizon for the largest network by far.
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isnt att the biggest network atm. customer wise? and besides it will get approved for the reason that the FCC is huge on getting 4G going. att will hhave the biggest for 4G network.
well at least thats what i think is going to happen.

My question about the whole AT&T/T-Mobile deal is, I'm using a couple of T-Mobile HD2s unlocked on AT&T . When/If the deal goes through, will AT&T know I'm using T-Mobile HD2s and upgrade my data plan from the cheap medianet plan to the smartphone plan? My bill is going to skyrocket!

lantern20 said:
My question about the whole AT&T/T-Mobile deal is, I'm using a couple of T-Mobile HD2s unlocked on AT&T . When/If the deal goes through, will AT&T know I'm using T-Mobile HD2s and upgrade my data plan from the cheap medianet plan to the smartphone plan? My bill is going to skyrocket!
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T-Mobile is still going to operate as a separate entity for a long while. So I don't think you need worry - I think the TMO HD2s will continue to work on EDGE with the AT&T network. The question is if they will share towers (meaning that your phone would have G3), but even then you would have to register your APN for the T-Mobile network, which won't work with an AT&T SIM Card.

G2 and the merger (not a normal thread...)

MOD EDIT: Any questions regarding the merge should be directed in the original discussion thread ~TheRomMistress
This thread is about one and only question. The whole reason for my question is that my wife has a full upgrade at the end of this month and I want to be the damn 4G mhz band is going to last...
What will happen to our 4G band during this merger?
Please links to anything, ill also be trolling for anything I can find and posting it here.
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in the next year we will see if T-Mobile gets acquired.
AT&T's plan for T-Mobile is to take their towers and spectrum and use them to reinforce their 3G and then roll out HSPA+ and LTE.
When they finally flip the switch, your G2 won't work anymore theoretically because it only works for 3G on 1700/2100, which AT&T does not. They will more than likely have backwards compatibility for quite a while before they shut down the ability for 1700/2100 3G T-Mobile phones to access their network. At that time when they choose to stop using 1700/2100 for 3G I'm sure that there will be a transition plan for them to move users from their old T-Mobile phones to new AT&T phones.
I think by the time AT&T finally switches to drop all of 1700/2100 3G support for T-mobile, the G2 will be quite old news. We're talking a year before the acquisition even becomes final, and then they have to start in with their transition plan. We're looking at a long way off before this is happening.

NEW YORK -- AT&T Inc. said Monday that if its deal to buy T-Mobile USA goes through, T-Mobile subscribers with "3G" phones will need to replace those to keep their wireless broadband service working. But there will be plenty of time to do that.
Dallas-based AT&T said Sunday it had agreed to buy T-Mobile USA for $39 billion. If approved by regulators, the deal would close in about a year.
AT&T said that some time after the closing, it plans to rearrange how T-Mobile's cell towers work. The airwaves they use for third-generation services, or 3G, will be repurposed for 4G, which is faster.
That would leave current T-Mobile phones without 3G. They would need to be replaced with phones that use AT&T's 3G frequencies. Ralph de la Vega, AT&T's head of wireless and consumer services, said this will happen as part of the normal phone upgrade process.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/21/att-t-mobile-3g-phones-_n_838492.html
pretty much our phones wont work and they will offer us phones that do work so they can avoid grandfathering our current plans

TrueYears said:
NEW YORK -- AT&T Inc. said Monday that if its deal to buy T-Mobile USA goes through, T-Mobile subscribers with "3G" phones will need to replace those to keep their wireless broadband service working. But there will be plenty of time to do that.
Dallas-based AT&T said Sunday it had agreed to buy T-Mobile USA for $39 billion. If approved by regulators, the deal would close in about a year.
AT&T said that some time after the closing, it plans to rearrange how T-Mobile's cell towers work. The airwaves they use for third-generation services, or 3G, will be repurposed for 4G, which is faster.
That would leave current T-Mobile phones without 3G. They would need to be replaced with phones that use AT&T's 3G frequencies. Ralph de la Vega, AT&T's head of wireless and consumer services, said this will happen as part of the normal phone upgrade process.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/21/att-t-mobile-3g-phones-_n_838492.html
pretty much our phones wont work and they will offer us phones that do work so they can avoid grandfathering our current plans
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Note that this suggests 1700/2100 LTE.

I realize that the g2 will be old news but that doesn't mean for that when I purchase a 4g phone this month for my wife I don't want the 4g to work in 12 months...
http://www.google.com/m/url?client=...UQFjAE&usg=AFQjCNEZ6OUeODq4FJmRQuwYDsGVqqzW3Q
"Find" the word "handset" and read that paragraph.
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With AT&T buying out T-Mobile what does this mean to our beloved HD2

I read that T-Mobile users will have to switch out to an AT&T smartphone device (at no cost or so they say) in order to stay on the 3G network because of the frequency difference. With that said it will be the end of our HD2 at least on 3G, even if it's a year out this phone still has over a year left of use in it.

do we need another thread about this buyout?

Not true. Nothing will happen for atleast a year. Plus.......from what I have read...they bought T-Mobile to add the 2 networks together. At&t has run out of room and want to unload some of they're weight onto tmobiles spectrum.
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why would they stop broadcasting on our 3g frequency?
they paid the FCC ridiculously for the right to that frequency and by adding the two different frequencies together and by designing phones with radios to access both frequencies, AT&T be able to compete with Verizon in terms of network coverage speed etc. This merger could be good for us as long as they don't price gouge us.
It doesnt make any sense unless at&t plans to sell the tmobile frequency to another cell company to force customers to switch to at&t phones...I dont see how or why that would ever happen makes much more sense to combine networks to increase speed and coverage and provide better service bc that is what will get and keep customers
If AT&T jacks up rates and tries to play the TMobile customers who went to TMobile in the first place bc Tmobile was the only wireless competition who went after Verizon and AT&T by offering better prices then AT&T can kiss its TMobile customers goodbye. I hate this merger from a consumer perspective but if they dont get greedy it might be ok...I dunno lack of competition is almost always bad for consumers

TopOfNewYork said:
why would they stop broadcasting on our 3g frequency?
they paid the FCC ridiculously for the right to that frequency and by adding the two different frequencies together and by designing phones with radios to access both frequencies, AT&T be able to compete with Verizon in terms of network coverage speed etc. This merger could be good for us as long as they don't price gouge us.
It doesnt make any sense unless at&t plans to sell the tmobile frequency to another cell company to force customers to switch to at&t phones...I dont see how or why that would ever happen makes much more sense to combine networks to increase speed and coverage and provide better service bc that is what will get and keep customers
If AT&T jacks up rates and tries to play the TMobile customers who went to TMobile in the first place bc Tmobile was the only wireless competition who went after Verizon and AT&T by offering better prices then AT&T can kiss its TMobile customers goodbye. I hate this merger from a consumer perspective but if they dont get greedy it might be ok...I dunno lack of competition is almost always bad for consumers
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AT&T has announced it is NOT going to us T-Mo's frequencies. They are going to upgrade the T-Mo towers to their 4G LTE tech, rendering our 3G phones useless. This is supposed to take a year or two though.

so whoever has the tmobiles "4G" aka HSPA+ devices, will be able to use that "4G LTE" network that they gonna add which should make G2 MT4G capable of the real 4G speeds?

No HSPA + uses GSM crap and whatnot whilst LTE is like next gen GSM. So no, if you have an HSPA+ phone it won't work on LTE.

Kailkti said:
No HSPA + uses GSM crap and whatnot whilst LTE is like next gen GSM. So no, if you have an HSPA+ phone it won't work on LTE.
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well that blows.. guess ill have to wait to see waht they come up with. no matter how much i hate att i really need a gsm device....

Well as said. LTE is like a next gen or evolution of GSM. So alot of carriers are moving to it, if not all. At&t, Verizon, Sprint, Europe is going there. Maybe asia. So maybe LTE will be the new GSM.
Only downside is for people who live in third/second world countries.
Although you won't expect a big wave of LTE devices to hit anytime soon however, and make GSM obsolete.

Kailkti said:
Well as said. LTE is like a next gen or evolution of GSM. So alot of carriers are moving to it, if not all. At&t, Verizon, Sprint, Europe is going there. Maybe asia. So maybe LTE will be the new GSM.
Only downside is for people who live in third/second world countries.
Although you won't expect a big wave of LTE devices to hit anytime soon however, and make GSM obsolete.
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well yea thats true but withing next like 2 years they should start popping out fast

nothing is changing any time soon.... They are honoring all contracts that are entered before the merger happens. MEANING if you have an hd2 you have nothing to worry about. I for one will not still be using it in two years from now. There will be WAY better phones by then.

what a niche of people are worried about is if the $10 web2go or $5.99 tzones UNLIMITED DATA WITH TETHERING NO CAPS will still work..

AT&T snacks on T-Mobile USA... what's that mean for the enduser???

$39 Billion is a lot of scooby snacks... and though I am aware that there are several regulatory hurdles to clear (SEC and FCC at the moment), I assume these beeeeches will lawyer up and find a way.
So from what I understand (which admittedly is very little) the existing Tmob towers will be re-purposed for rolling out Ma Bell's LTE coverage (within 12 months). As we all know, Ma Bell and Tmob use different broadcast frequencies for their Mobile broadband. So essentially, within a years time... those whom own a Vibrant, Vib + or any other 3g enabled Tmob smartphone... will have a very expensive edge capable device... ewwwwwwww, really !?!?!?!?!?!
Has there been any other word on this... as in compensation, grandfathering of packages (AT&T data plans blow money-wise) etc...
I know we have some Tmob sources on this board... any whispers???

Vibrant supports GayT&T bands, im unlocked.
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tng222 said:
Vibrant supports GayT&T bands, im unlocked.
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Umts and hsupa ????
droppin the know...

Vibrant is supports some AT&T's 3G bands. Most of the time, you'll be on AT&T's 3G, but you can also get kicked down to edge if the area you're in doesn't support Vibrant's 3G bands.

Nope, it does 850mhz and 1900mhz, all bands. However, I will admit the phone has issues switching between GSM and WCDMA, so I set it to WCDMA only.
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Read today that AT&T may have to divest part of T-Mobile to Sprint
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/03/analysts-say-att-will-have-to-divest-part-of-t-mobile-possibly-to-sprint/

T-Mobile is becoming a rag doll...

This is going to be more fun than the Sprint Nextel fiasco.

I don't think there is much mystery as to what will happen. This is AT&T we are talking about, after all.
While a nice bonus, the additional subscribers to AT&T's user base is really a secondary concern. AT&T's prime target were the (leases for) T-mobile's frequencies.
AT&T's network is already overloaded (thanks in part to weak infineon radio chipsets). They need to start the roll out to LTE to compete (verizon is already ahead of them), and they know that customers will cry foul and leave if their LTE and HSPA+ phones do not get service any faster than current 3G phones (see: Motorola Atrix).
So, what will happen to T-mobile users? Simple... AT&T will honor existing contracts and arrangements *for 2G/3G service* (T-mob does not have 4G, despite the marketing), and they will issue T-mobile users new phones (some discounted, I am sure) for use on AT&T's existing network.
What does this mean for T-mobile customers? Say good-bye to being able to answer a phone call at a concert or college football game. Being on the largest network means having to share bandwith/frequency with the largest number of users. They will fight for service with all those people with sh*tty iphone antennae.
Slower data, locked down Android phones, and higher rates for service if you want to sign a new agreement are what will inevitably happen. Current AT&T customers probably won't notice a difference unless they get an LTE phone (in which case they will get the faster data and non-overloaded service that T-mobile customers are used to).
T-mo 3G coverage will get better in smaller towns & cities, but this isn't much of an advantage for me since I live in a large city.

I hope that if that happens and I can't use my phone in their network, I'm given the option of just cancel my contract...

tng222 said:
Nope, it does 850mhz and 1900mhz, all bands. However, I will admit the phone has issues switching between GSM and WCDMA, so I set it to WCDMA only.
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Really don't think so. FCC documents only say 1900MHz for 3G. Who knows though?
I just hope we can continue to use smartphones on prepaid plans. That's really why I left Ma Bell.

Tarzanman said:
I don't think there is much mystery as to what will happen. This is AT&T we are talking about, after all.
While a nice bonus, the additional subscribers to AT&T's user base is really a secondary concern. AT&T's prime target were the (leases for) T-mobile's frequencies.
AT&T's network is already overloaded (thanks in part to weak infineon radio chipsets). They need to start the roll out to LTE to compete (verizon is already ahead of them), and they know that customers will cry foul and leave if their LTE and HSPA+ phones do not get service any faster than current 3G phones (see: Motorola Atrix).
So, what will happen to T-mobile users? Simple... AT&T will honor existing contracts and arrangements *for 2G/3G service* (T-mob does not have 4G, despite the marketing), and they will issue T-mobile users new phones (some discounted, I am sure) for use on AT&T's existing network.
What does this mean for T-mobile customers? Say good-bye to being able to answer a phone call at a concert or college football game. Being on the largest network means having to share bandwith/frequency with the largest number of users. They will fight for service with all those people with sh*tty iphone antennae.
Slower data, locked down Android phones, and higher rates for service if you want to sign a new agreement are what will inevitably happen. Current AT&T customers probably won't notice a difference unless they get an LTE phone (in which case they will get the faster data and non-overloaded service that T-mobile customers are used to).
T-mo 3G coverage will get better in smaller towns & cities, but this isn't much of an advantage for me since I live in a large city.
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i think t-mobile does a great job in coverage, i get full service in my neighborhood but i dont get 3g service, maybe this will help? if not i just want to cancel my contract and switch to verizon

After the merger is done and the network has switched over...Worse case, I hope to unlock, pop in a AT&T SIM continue to use my Vibrant mostly like nothing has changed. I don't know what effect flashing a Captivate modem would have. I'm not worried...yet.

I think AT&T might make a transitional phase (2-4yrs) for T-mobile existing customers(no new AWS phones) before switching all T-mobile network to AT&T frequencies.

http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-20048020-85.html?tag=TOCmoreStories.0

I hope sprint gets it! I never had and never will have at&t.... I price checked with at&t a few days ago.. 210 dollars for 2 unlimited lines!?!? Data capped at 2Gigs.. And 10 bucks for every gig used after!? I pay 140 for two fully loaded vibrants. . Fack at&t
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nate420 said:
210 dollars for 2 unlimited lines!?!? Data capped at 2Gigs.. And 10 bucks for every gig used after!?
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Unlimited...

gamikzone said:
i think t-mobile does a great job in coverage, i get full service in my neighborhood but i dont get 3g service, maybe this will help? if not i just want to cancel my contract and switch to verizon
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Same Here. I have been with T-mobile for 7 years now and even though I moved from a "4G" area to an area where I only get Edge, i still have stayed with T-Mob, but I am hoping we get the option to cancel our contracts because that Thunderbolt from Verizon is looking good. My co-worker has one and let me mess with it and it is nice.

Tarzanman said:
I don't think there is much mystery as to what will happen. This is AT&T we are talking about, after all.
While a nice bonus, the additional subscribers to AT&T's user base is really a secondary concern. AT&T's prime target were the (leases for) T-mobile's frequencies.
AT&T's network is already overloaded (thanks in part to weak infineon radio chipsets). They need to start the roll out to LTE to compete (verizon is already ahead of them), and they know that customers will cry foul and leave if their LTE and HSPA+ phones do not get service any faster than current 3G phones (see: Motorola Atrix).
So, what will happen to T-mobile users? Simple... AT&T will honor existing contracts and arrangements *for 2G/3G service* (T-mob does not have 4G, despite the marketing), and they will issue T-mobile users new phones (some discounted, I am sure) for use on AT&T's existing network.
What does this mean for T-mobile customers? Say good-bye to being able to answer a phone call at a concert or college football game. Being on the largest network means having to share bandwith/frequency with the largest number of users. They will fight for service with all those people with sh*tty iphone antennae.
Slower data, locked down Android phones, and higher rates for service if you want to sign a new agreement are what will inevitably happen. Current AT&T customers probably won't notice a difference unless they get an LTE phone (in which case they will get the faster data and non-overloaded service that T-mobile customers are used to).
T-mo 3G coverage will get better in smaller towns & cities, but this isn't much of an advantage for me since I live in a large city.
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T-Mobile has a better "4G" than AT&T does. Their HSPA+ is faster than AT&T's.

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http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-20048020-85.html?tag=TOCmoreStories.0
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Completely agree with the article.
They are allowing AT&T to be a monopoly again,after all the work it took to destroy the monopoly.The FCC should shot down this deal period.

[Q] Which USA S4 will have the most compatibility (opinion)?

Howdy kids,
Quick question for those with more knowhow/info on the LTE bands and carriers. In your opinion at this stage of the game... Which US S4 version will have the most compatibily domestically (formost) and internationally? I know he carries all get thier own hardware/modem... im just currious which phone i should try if i might end up switching carries after 6months or so (no contract).
thanks for your thoughts

If I had to guess, probably T-Mobile. Unfortunately where I live, T-Mobile is almost all 2G/3G so I have to go with Sprint CDMA. But GSM networks are definitely the most flexible if you travel.

Sarcron said:
If I had to guess, probably T-Mobile. Unfortunately where I live, T-Mobile is almost all 2G/3G so I have to go with Sprint CDMA. But GSM networks are definitely the most flexible if you travel.
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If I had to guess I'd say AT&T...def not T-Mobile - although both are gsm which adds flexibility, T-Mobile has terrible service and AT&T has better service (not saying ATT has the best...but its def better than T-Mobile) and sprint service is pretty bad too...
Also keep in mind it depends on where you live. The above is based on where I love which is southern California (orange county)
But definitely go for either the T-Mobile or att as gsm networks seem to be the most flexible
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Yep, GSM all the way if you travel and probably the snapdragon for the LTE if you have it in your home area or roam frequently where it is available. I'd likely go AT&T for the coverage unless you are in an area where you get good Tmo service and seldom leave it. No reason not to save the ching and get a cheaper plan with Tmo in that case.

I'd also add that if you plan on going off-contract and paying the full phone price, T-Mobile has the advantage of offering much better prepaid plans with unlimited data.

At&t id say. The verizon one will to but im betting the bootloader will be locked up. Once a dev cracks it then im sure roms will follow.