Knox Bootloader - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello, just wondering since it's been a while, if anybody found a way to downgrade the Knox bootloader-enabled one to the one before? From 4.2 if I remember correctly? Thanks!

As far as I know, no.
I think people even stopped trying.

GDReaper said:
As far as I know, no.
I think people even stopped trying.
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That sucks, the S4 was a good device, before I had to send it in for repairs! They upgraded me to 4.4 with Knox, and now it's just awful, sadly. Oh well.

nar001 said:
That sucks, the S4 was a good device, before I had to send it in for repairs! They upgraded me to 4.4 with Knox, and now it's just awful, sadly. Oh well.
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Why? I got mine with Knox, but I don't see the big issue with it.
Anyway, you can always flash custom ROMs to get rid of Knox. Or root and delete Knox apps from your ROM.

GDReaper said:
Why? I got mine with Knox, but I don't see the big issue with it.
Anyway, you can always flash custom ROMs to get rid of Knox. Or root and delete Knox apps from your ROM.
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Yeah but that never gets rid of the 0x1 or messages about kernel when you boot!

nar001 said:
Yeah but that never gets rid of the 0x1 or messages about kernel when you boot!
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Is one extra line in the top corner during boot that bad?

GDReaper said:
Is one extra line in the top corner during boot that bad?
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Well, Knox already made my device hang before, had to reboot twice or more to get it to boot to a ROM, and that just makes me sad, since it wasn't a bad phone when it came out

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Is there any reason why I SHOULDN'T update to OTA 4.3?

As the title states, is there any reason why I shouldn't update to OTA 4.3?
I'm currently running a stock, non-rooted SGH-I337M on Bell. I'm just wondering about KNOX...if I start messing with my phone, should I do it from 4.2?
I updated to 4.3 and I'm seeing a little jank, and it feels less robust than 4.2.2 was. Also, if you intend to root or do a custom recovery/ROM, you will have to wait a few weeks until the bootloader is unlocked and some more cutting gets done on 4.3 before you can do anything like that.
aycockonxion said:
I updated to 4.3 and I'm seeing a little jank, and it feels less robust than 4.2.2 was. Also, if you intend to root or do a custom recovery/ROM, you will have to wait a few weeks until the bootloader is unlocked and some more cutting gets done on 4.3 before you can do anything like that.
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Hmm...I don't think that the Canadian bootloaders are locked.
Snizzoop said:
Hmm...I don't think that the Canadian bootloaders are locked.
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Ahh yes, I understand that you are correct.
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Ahh yes, I understand that you are correct.
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So, as I understand it then...
...if I update to MK6, I will have KNOX.
The only reason I should be concerned about tripping KNOX is if I need to send the phone in for warranty, OR if I want to put the phone on some sort of enterprise server? If I don't care about either of these things, I should flash the OTA...and then root/ROM without worry?
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So, as I understand it then...
...if I update to MK6, I will have KNOX.
The only reason I should be concerned about tripping KNOX is if I need to send the phone in for warranty, OR if I want to put the phone on some sort of enterprise server? If I don't care about either of these things, I should flash the OTA...and then root/ROM without worry?
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Virtually no carriers actually check to see if you're rooted.. Once it's accepted for warranty by the carrier it's sent to Samsung and disassembled. It carries some risk, but realistically it's not something to lose sleep over.
I'm in the same boat. I do want to root my phone soon then flash it when the 1 year warranty runs out. Should I root now or after my update? (It's asking to update now)
Would I lose root after my update anyway?
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So, as I understand it then...
...if I update to MK6, I will have KNOX.
The only reason I should be concerned about tripping KNOX is if I need to send the phone in for warranty, OR if I want to put the phone on some sort of enterprise server? If I don't care about either of these things, I should flash the OTA...and then root/ROM without worry?
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If you don't care about either then updating to MK6 isn't going to hurt. The only other concern may be that as far as I know there is no way to revert back to 4.2.2/MG1. I have heard some people were having weird issues around OTAs though like incomplete or frozen downloads and having to start it over again. You can also flash through Kies on your computer now. I assume most of the OTA issues have been resolved now, but imho using a usb cable is always the better practice.
Maleki said:
I'm in the same boat. I do want to root my phone soon then flash it when the 1 year warranty runs out. Should I root now or after my update? (It's asking to update now)
Would I lose root after my update anyway?
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Yes. I had to unroot to get OTA though, then re-root afterwards.
You guys might want to review this thread as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2535801. There are other options to OTA and Kies.
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Virtually no carriers actually check to see if you're rooted.. Once it's accepted for warranty by the carrier it's sent to Samsung and disassembled. It carries some risk, but realistically it's not something to lose sleep over.
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The repair process works a little different in my area. If I have an issue, I take my phone to the store...I use a loaner phone while they send mine to a repair facility. If the repair facility finds a reason not to perform repairs under warranty, they don't.
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If you don't care about either then updating to MK6 isn't going to hurt. The only other concern may be that as far as I know there is no way to revert back to 4.2.2/MG1. I have heard some people were having weird issues around OTAs though like incomplete or frozen downloads and having to start it over again. You can also flash through Kies on your computer now. I assume most of the OTA issues have been resolved now, but imho using a usb cable is always the better practice.
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10-4.
Last question...rooting doesn't give that "custom" warning at boot, does it? I think that's only once you install a custom recovery?
If you are not planning on rooting or anything I say go for it. It seems a lot smoother for me, battery life seems far better, im getting slightly better service, and lastly we have built in emojis now (granted you can only send them as an mms through text but you are able to see them system wide now on apps such as ig or twitter etc) I personally say go for it.
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Last question...rooting doesn't give that "custom" warning at boot, does it? I think that's only once you install a custom recovery?
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I think it does, but honestly can't remember... did mine on Nov 23rd and flashed a custom rom within an hr of rooting.
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If you don't care about either then updating to MK6 isn't going to hurt. The only other concern may be that as far as I know there is no way to revert back to 4.2.2/MG1. I have heard some people were having weird issues around OTAs though like incomplete or frozen downloads and having to start it over again. You can also flash through Kies on your computer now. I assume most of the OTA issues have been resolved now, but imho using a usb cable is always the better practice.
Yes. I had to unroot to get OTA though, then re-root afterwards.
You guys might want to review this thread as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2535801. There are other options to OTA and Kies.
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My plan was to go stock for a year then when the initial warranty runs out (I have sweet extended one through the re-seller) I was going to go with a custom rom. That's what I did with my S1. It doesn't look like I'll have the luxury. I already updated once and got a secure boot. Lesson learned I guess.
Slow Charging
The new update really takes a long time to charge if you are using a 3rd party charger. Idk if its true for everyone, or if this was done on purpose but I notice my gs4 charging wayyyyy slower than on 4.2.2.

[Q] Yet another Root and KNOX tread.. What about NAND?

My phone is SM-N9005, with 4.3 stock and the dreaded MJ7..
I understand that there still is no way to Root this device without flagging the [email protected]@# KNOX and void any warranty..
I'm going to wait a couple of days for a possibility to root my beloved Note3, without triggering KNOX and then I don't think I kan live without Titanium, Exposed and Tasker++... :fingers-crossed:
I'm wondering if someone can explain to me; (I'm a noob and I know it) is the information Knox 0x1 stored in flash memory (NAND)?
And if so, and i had to deliver my phone for service some time in the future.. Would it be possible to make Nand corrupt beyond recognition and then get warranty back?
If they can't see anything wrong, they can't claim that I have been rooted..
Or should I just try too brag them with some baked goods and hope for the best?
I really hate that Samsung have done this with an "open" OS, and if there's no good work around in the future, This will be my last Samsung device!
Btw: This is my first post here on XDA, and sorry for my "English"
SealLynx said:
Or should I just try too brag them with some baked goods and hope for the best?
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Or you try a microwave... About 3 secs does the trick apparently...
ultramag69 said:
Or you try a microwave... About 3 secs does the trick apparently...
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Lol! Somehow i don't think a microwaved phone is going to be justified as a warranty claim..
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Lol! Somehow i don't think a microwaved phone is going to be justified as a warranty claim..
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Apparently people have done this when they can't boot and have rooted OS. Don't know if it works as I haven't needed to try, anytime I had a warranty claim the problem actually fried the MB by itself.... No help needed...:laugh:
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Apparently people have done this when they can't boot and have rooted OS. Don't know if it works as I haven't needed to try, anytime I had a warranty claim the problem actually fried the MB by itself.... No help needed...:laugh:
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I thank you for the comment, but i do need an first hand experience before I fry my note..
Don't know why, but I'd be more comfortable with a full whipe of NAND, if that's the place KNOX is stored..
SealLynx said:
I thank you for the comment, but i do need an first hand experience before I fry my note..
Don't know why, but I'd be more comfortable with a full whipe of NAND, if that's the place KNOX is stored..
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KNOX is stored everywhere, - No one knows for sure where the counter 0x0/0x1 is located, hence no one being able to reset it. It is possible it's in NAND, but then again, it might be somewhere totally different.
I'm going to wait a couple of days for a possibility to root my beloved Note3, without triggering KNOX and then I don't think I kan live without Titanium, Exposed and Tasker++..
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In all honesty I doubt a few days will make any difference, there isn't even anyone working on rooting without tripping KNOX, especially now DG and CF have given up and said it can't be done due to the bootloader...
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KNOX is stored everywhere, - No one knows for sure where the counter 0x0/0x1 is located, hence no one being able to reset it. It is possible it's in NAND, but then again, it might be somewhere totally different.
In all honesty I doubt a few days will make any difference, there isn't even anyone working on rooting without tripping KNOX, especially now DG and CF have given up and said it can't be done due to the bootloader...
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Well, then it seems like this is my last Samsung device..
It where nice as long as it lasted.
Any thoughts about the NAND?
If that is corupted, wouldn't it be difficult or impossible to read the internal SD?
SealLynx said:
Any thoughts about the NAND?
If that is corupted, wouldn't it be difficult or impossible to read the internal SD?
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It is possible, but we don't know what kind of tools Samsung potentially use to debug a device properly. But then again, who knows

downgrade confirmation

hello guys
I have a sm-n900.....it came upgraded to kitkat in the box
although the performance of the phone is mind blowing but I feel it is a battery draimer......and also I read reviews on net that people with jellybean used to have their battery last more than one day with usual udage but in my case it is only upto 16-17 hrs
I thought of downgrading to jellybean and went to service cemtre where they told me that downgrading in not possible in note 3
I then searched at home and found it is bit complicated and if we do we may loose update to kitkat if we want afterwards
like in my earlier s2 (i9100) and note (n7000) I could flash any firmware anytime
but wat to do downgrade this to jellybean without loosing the possibilities of update to kitkat
plz someone
I know people are here having far big issues compared to mine
but I would be really happy is someone would guide me through this
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hello guys
I have a sm-n900.....it came upgraded to kitkat in the box
although the performance of the phone is mind blowing but I feel it is a battery draimer......and also I read reviews on net that people with jellybean used to have their battery last more than one day with usual udage but in my case it is only upto 16-17 hrs
I thought of downgrading to jellybean and went to service cemtre where they told me that downgrading in not possible in note 3
I then searched at home and found it is bit complicated and if we do we may loose update to kitkat if we want afterwards
like in my earlier s2 (i9100) and note (n7000) I could flash any firmware anytime
but wat to do downgrade this to jellybean without loosing the possibilities of update to kitkat
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you cant downgrade at all
just not going to happen sorry bud
anikanu said:
plz someone
I know people are here having far big issues compared to mine
but I would be really happy is someone would guide me through this
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The reason you are not getting any response is because this question has been asked 59 billion times a day since KK rolled out, and the other million plus members who are aware of it are restraining themselves through giant facepalms.
In short, no, there is no way to downgrade.
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The reason you are not getting any response is because this question has been asked 59 billion times a day since KK rolled out, and the other million plus members who are aware of it are restraining themselves through giant facepalms.
In short, no, there is no way to downgrade.
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mate do you math its 58 billion times a day lol :silly:
jaythenut said:
you cant downgrade at all
just not going to happen sorry bud
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donalgodon said:
The reason you are not getting any response is because this question has been asked 59 billion times a day since KK rolled out, and the other million plus members who are aware of it are restraining themselves through giant facepalms.
In short, no, there is no way to downgrade.
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jaythenut said:
mate do you math its 58 billion times a day lol :silly:
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so can I root the phone and move to some other custom kernel based rom and then flash jellybean via odin
wat wud happen if I do it using odin.....will it hardbrick or some apps wont work.....plz tell...I know its annoying but plz
anikanu said:
so can I root the phone and move to some other custom kernel based rom and then flash jellybean via odin
wat wud happen if I do it using odin.....will it hardbrick or some apps wont work.....plz tell...I know its annoying but plz
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Forget jelly beans you can never go back all it will do is Bootloop
donalgodon said:
The reason you are not getting any response is because this question has been asked 59 billion times a day since KK rolled out, and the other million plus members who are aware of it are restraining themselves through giant facepalms.
In short, no, there is no way to downgrade.
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and I see that u r using same ohone rooted
whuch method did y follow and also is der any prob in handling og the phone after rooting
and can u go back to stock unrooted again to restorr warranty and reset binary counter
jaythenut said:
Forget jelly beans you can never go back all it will do is Bootloop
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u mean I cant even go to cm10.2 too
anikanu said:
u mean I cant even go to cm10.2 too
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No, you can't
anikanu said:
and I see that u r using same ohone rooted
whuch method did y follow and also is der any prob in handling og the phone after rooting
and can u go back to stock unrooted again to restorr warranty and reset binary counter
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I rooted via CF-AutoRoot (as my signature indicates below) and there were no problems. For me, KitKat is working perfectly in every respect.
No, you cannot reset the Knox binary trigger. I could not possibly care any less about it at this point in time.
I plan to use the device until something better comes along, then sell it, so why worry about it?
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I rooted via CF-AutoRoot (as my signature indicates below) and there were no problems. For me, KitKat is working perfectly in every respect.
No, you cannot reset the Knox binary trigger. I could not possibly care any less about it at this point in time.
I plan to use the device until something better comes along, then sell it, so why worry about it?
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so now if u visit samsung
what page the officials would open in order to see ur knox counter
Pierre118 said:
No, you can't
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how r u having knox still 0 even after rooting
anikanu said:
how r u having knox still 0 even after rooting
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You need to do some searching on the site. All these questions have answers that have been gone over and over.
Early 4.3 users could root their phone but Knox gets tripped. RDLV method worked then without tripping Knox up till MJ3 of 4.3. Anything above that as stock and Knox gets tripped. KitKat goes one step further in that you cannot revert to 4.3 at all, even if you are willing to trip Knox.
You can root the phone but AFAIK (I haven't bothered with KK - my phone runs brilliantly on v6 (4.3) Omega) you trip Knox anyway you do it.
Knox 0x1 may or may not doom your warranty - somecountries have laws that say Samsung cannot quirm out of hardware problems by claiming software changes. You may or may not care about Knox. Mine is a grey import from HK that I had all kinds of fun getting over to a non-freaky ROM, so when it eventually triggered Knox I didn't give a toss. I did root the phone with RDLV and changed ROMs several times before something that shouldn't have, tripped the Knox bit.
Now there is about as brief a history as you will get. Use what is in it to go search and find any more complete answers.
Always search before asking basic questions - at the least it means you will be able to ask intelligent questions, not ones you can find by looking at the titles of recent posts in Q&A forums.
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so now if u visit samsung
what page the officials would open in order to see ur knox counter
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They'd just boot to Download mode and see the Knox flag.
I don't care about it, honestly. If I ever need warranty assistance, I'd just hope for the best, but since it's Samsung, I'd expect the worst.
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You need to do some searching on the site. All these questions have answers that have been gone over and over.
Early 4.3 users could root their phone but Knox gets tripped. RDLV method worked then without tripping Knox up till MJ3 of 4.3. Anything above that as stock and Knox gets tripped. KitKat goes one step further in that you cannot revert to 4.3 at all, even if you are willing to trip Knox.
You can root the phone but AFAIK (I haven't bothered with KK - my phone runs brilliantly on v6 (4.3) Omega) you trip Knox anyway you do it.
Knox 0x1 may or may not doom your warranty - somecountries have laws that say Samsung cannot quirm out of hardware problems by claiming software changes. You may or may not care about Knox. Mine is a grey import from HK that I had all kinds of fun getting over to a non-freaky ROM, so when it eventually triggered Knox I didn't give a toss. I did root the phone with RDLV and changed ROMs several times before something that shouldn't have, tripped the Knox bit.
Now there is about as brief a history as you will get. Use what is in it to go search and find any more complete answers.
Always search before asking basic questions - at the least it means you will be able to ask intelligent questions, not ones you can find by looking at the titles of recent posts in Q&A forums.
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donalgodon said:
They'd just boot to Download mode and see the Knox flag.
I don't care about it, honestly. If I ever need warranty assistance, I'd just hope for the best, but since it's Samsung, I'd expect the worst.
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I may be annoying u guys
but what I understand from till now is dat I wont get the privileges of the phone as I used to get in xperia live and sgs2 and maybe what I will use be the stock rom
btw I have still not downloaded the app data of knox which is of 170mb.....wat do u guys suggest should I do it or let it be
and 1 last question that is der any way to have mass storage mode.....as in mtp we dont see the files and folders starting with (.) and I have many imp stuffs on my sd which have their starting with a . and u all know that in mtp we dont see such files and folders.....so is der any way to have the mass storage mode back
plz answer......I know I annoyed a lot.....but plz
You should be able to use another mode. When you connect via USB, swipe down the Notification bar and there should be a Notify there you can tap to choose other modes.
You might need to go into Build Number (Settings/About Phone) and tap 7 times to turn on Developer mode and then turn on USB Debug. (not sure as that's always one of the first things I do)
Unless you are the only person on the planet who sees a need for Knox, you don't need to DL anything to do with Knox. Check in Application Manager and see if you can turn all of it off.
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You should be able to use another mode. When you connect via USB, swipe down the Notification bar and there should be a Notify there you can tap to choose other modes.
You might need to go into Build Number (Settings/About Phone) and tap 7 times to turn on Developer mode and then turn on USB Debug. (not sure as that's always one of the first things I do)
Unless you are the only person on the planet who sees a need for Knox, you don't need to DL anything to do with Knox. Check in Application Manager and see if you can turn all of it off.
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I also have enabled developer options due to my habit of doing in cm roms in previous phones
but on usb connection there are only 2 modes
media transfer protocol
camera protocol
mass storage is missing
donalgodon said:
I plan to use the device until something better comes along, then sell it, so why worry about it?
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Interesting question. Do you find you can easily sell your rooted/modified phones?
I'm always concerned that people won't want to buy a rooted phone that's potentially been flashed 100+ times with possible excessive CPU over-clocking etc. I always try to put the phone back to stock (or as close as possible) before I sell it on.
Is it just me who feels those concerns?
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Interesting question. Do you find you can easily sell your rooted/modified phones?
I'm always concerned that people won't want to buy a rooted phone that's potentially been flashed 100+ times with possible excessive CPU over-clocking etc. I always try to put the phone back to stock (or as close as possible) before I sell it on.
Is it just me who feels those concerns?
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Well, in my region, the vast majority of buyers don't even know what root is, so it's never been an issue for me. I don't expect that to change anytime soon. The Note 3 doesn't show any issues at all when reflashed unless Knox flag is tripped. Even then, the only "issue" is the warranty bit flag shown in Download mode and the loss of Knox container, which almost nobody uses. Out of a 100 buyers, you might find one that knows what root is and less than that who know how to get to Download mode, and even fewer who'd potentially use Knox, so no, not a problem.

[Q] Is it worth to trip knox

Only two months remaining in my warranty. should I trip knox? If ktoonsez kernel comes for TW lollipop then I for sure will trip knox. But other than ktoonsez kernel, Is there anything worth to trip knox for?
I tripped knox 2 months after purchase.
I don't regret it at all. I can backup my apps with titanium backup. I can use viper4android. I can increase and decrease the performance (depending if I need battery life or not).
I felt very restrained without root.
Finally, I tripped my knox...!!!
khsh97 said:
Finally, I tripped my knox...!!!
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Do you still FEEL the same as before?
Wildwind101 said:
Do you still FEEL the same as before?
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what do you mean? I am not getting your question. In what aspect should I feel same or different than before? Please, explain little bit your question.
khsh97 said:
what do you mean? I am not getting your question. In what aspect should I feel same or different than before? Please, explain little bit your question.
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Haha, that was a joke
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Haha, that was a joke
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haha.... I am feeling happy than before. Now, I am using philz recovery and hybridmax kernel and my phone has become very smooth. Now, I can directly root my phone without waiting for safe root method.
Now I can use my phone the way I want. Now its my phone instead of samsung....lol!!!
khsh97 said:
haha.... I am feeling happy than before. Now, I am using philz recovery and hybridmax kernel and my phone has become very smooth. Now, I can directly root my phone without waiting for safe root method.
Now I can use my phone the way I want. Now its my phone instead of samsung....lol!!!
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You have been LIBERATED my friend
Wildwind101 said:
You have been LIBERATED my friend
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Yeah I am and you also.
Does the device belongs to Samsung or you???
Lim Wee Huat said:
Does the device belongs to Samsung or you???
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Before tripping knox, it belong to samsung. But now after tripping knox, it belong to me. Of course the device is from samsung so I am going to say it belong to both of us.
what about your device? Does it belong to you or Samsung???

[Q] Root limits

Hey I've read smth about a 80% charge limit after tripping knox, but couldn't seem to find anything about it in the root threads, is it true and are there any other limits besides the unusability of knox required apps and some banking apps...?
Thanks in advance .
kriki200 said:
Hey I've read smth about a 80% charge limit after tripping knox, but couldn't seem to find anything about it in the root threads, is it true and are there any other limits besides the unusability of knox required apps and some banking apps...?
Thanks in advance .
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Stay with stock root is not worth it
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Stay with stock root is not worth it
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Well I haven't rooted since Note 4, but as far as I remember the ROM's were worth it on that device and I didn't rly miss the samsung features (maybe cuz I rooted the same day of gtting it).
kriki200 said:
Well I haven't rooted since Note 4, but as far as I remember the ROM's were worth it on that device and I didn't rly miss the samsung features (maybe cuz I rooted the same day of gtting it).
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Root always comes back and bites you in the ass
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PoochyX said:
Root always comes back and bites you in the ass
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Don't get what you mean exactly...
kriki200 said:
Don't get what you mean exactly...
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There's always a chance of your phone messing up with root
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There's always a chance of your phone messing up with root
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Somewhere along the way I kinda stopped counting bricks ...
Yes we can only charge to 80% I found a method to get higher. I wouldn't trade root for anything on this device. It makes it bearable. I run modded TouchWiz and viper. Ui tweaks. There's very little you can do to really brick your phone as we still have locked bootloader Most hard bricks are recoverable. I prefer rooted nougat over pie any day of the week.
Btw bricks are fun. Fun to figure out why and how to recover.
TheMadScientist said:
Yes we can only charge to 80% I found a method to get higher. I wouldn't trade root for anything on this device. It makes it bearable. I run modded TouchWiz and viper. Ui tweaks. There's very little you can do to really brick your phone as we still have locked bootloader Most hard bricks are recoverable. I prefer rooted nougat over pie any day of the week.
Btw bricks are fun. Fun to figure out why and how to recover.
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The bricks part xD, is the charging over 80 stable tho, can you post the method?
Another thing, charging over 80 isn't recoverable by just reflashing the official stock(ie unrooted and all), right?
kriki200 said:
Another thing, charging over 80 isn't recoverable by just reflashing the official stock(ie unrooted and all), right?
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Yea it is. It a limit implemented by the kernel we need for rooting. Once the stock firmwares kernel is flashed back all undone. No tripped Knox.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...rge-past-80-snap-dragon-t3918553/post79280899
Once you've done this a few times it's like first nature
kriki200 said:
Hey I've read smth about a 80% charge limit after tripping knox, but couldn't seem to find anything about it in the root threads, is it true and are there any other limits besides the unusability of knox required apps and some banking apps...?
Thanks in advance .
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Which model do you have. You can't trip Knox on the us 950Us. And the 950fs do not have the charge limit. If you flash back stock Samsung pay and all the banking apps will work again on the 950u
PoochyX said:
Root always comes back and bites you in the ass
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ive never had root bite me in the ass. ive had mistakes ive made due to not reading enough before installing and tweaking a mod, but thats not roots fault.
TheMadScientist said:
Yea it is. It a limit implemented by the kernel we need for rooting. Once the stock firmwares kernel is flashed back all undone. No tripped Knox.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...rge-past-80-snap-dragon-t3918553/post79280899
Once you've done this a few times it's like first nature
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Thought knox was irreversable due to it being an efuse or smth...
TheMadScientist said:
Which model do you have. You can't trip Knox on the us 950Us. And the 950fs do not have the charge limit. If you flash back stock Samsung pay and all the banking apps will work again on the 950u
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I have the 950F .
kriki200 said:
I have the 950F .
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Thought you had the american version.
TheMadScientist said:
Thought you had the american version.
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Nope from EU... about the knox, I thought that it doesn't reset back to 0x0 after flashing stock ... anyheways thanks for all the info dude .
I think the 80% charge for rooting doesn't happen with the Exynos versions tho
panchovix said:
I think the 80% charge for rooting doesn't happen with the Exynos versions tho
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No only us models
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When most people post about the 80% limit I assume they have a 950 U
kriki200 said:
Thought knox was irreversable due to it being an efuse or smth...
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it is irreversible
kriki200 said:
Nope from EU... about the knox, I thought that it doesn't reset back to 0x0 after flashing stock ... anyways thanks for all the info dude .
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it wont return to 0x0 after flashing stock

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