Hi folks,
I recently got a new battery for my S3 neo to replace my rapidly deteriorating original.
since the switch, i've been unable to charge EITHER battery up to 100% without waiting many hours for it trickle charge up from 80%.
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i switched out the batteries when the old one was fully charged (since i was going to store it).
when i put in the new one, it read 84% when turned on again, i thought this was acceptable, since the battery would have been stored for a while before i bought it.
however, when charging this battery up again, it would hit around 76-77% and start trickle charging, as if charging from 95 to 100%
im not really sure how to fix this, and i have tried wiping cache, and running the battery down to 0% and charging from there. i have my theory, but am not sure its at all correct!
my theory (please tell me if i'm wrong)
when the battery jumped from 100% to 84% following the battery switch, that reset 84% to "fully charged" somehow
this would leave being fully charged as 1764Mah in the battery instead of 2100Mah
and by charging to 84%, then switching in a 100% battery this might be somehow reversed?
Would really appreciate any ideas people may have, since the already poor battery life (2 hours screen on) has now gotten even worse!
Thollupped said:
Hi folks,
I recently got a new battery for my S3 neo to replace my rapidly deteriorating original.
since the switch, i've been unable to charge EITHER battery up to 100% without waiting many hours for it trickle charge up from 80%.
here's the background:
i switched out the batteries when the old one was fully charged (since i was going to store it).
when i put in the new one, it read 84% when turned on again, i thought this was acceptable, since the battery would have been stored for a while before i bought it.
however, when charging this battery up again, it would hit around 76-77% and start trickle charging, as if charging from 95 to 100%
im not really sure how to fix this, and i have tried wiping cache, and running the battery down to 0% and charging from there. i have my theory, but am not sure its at all correct!
my theory (please tell me if i'm wrong)
when the battery jumped from 100% to 84% following the battery switch, that reset 84% to "fully charged" somehow
this would leave being fully charged as 1764Mah in the battery instead of 2100Mah
and by charging to 84%, then switching in a 100% battery this might be somehow reversed?
Would really appreciate any ideas people may have, since the already poor battery life (2 hours screen on) has now gotten even worse!
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Which rom are you using? Did you try using battery calibareter?
Just cha ge your custom kernel.
redhead77 said:
Which rom are you using? Did you try using battery calibareter?
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I'm using the latest version of Rox's Cm12.1 build, with cwm recovery. i've just tried to use a calibrator, and its reset 100% i think, but not sure if that's actually fixed it. and i still have appalling battery life
MoHuToP said:
Just change your custom kernel.
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unfortunately i cant remember what i currently have installed, but is there a good one for battery life you could recommend? :fingers-crossed:
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I've been slowly draining my G1 since yesterday, with wifi on and auto-check email every 10 minutes. It lasted almost 24hrs before 2%.
I noticed it slowly went to 2% around 12pm today and at around 5:30pm, it finally shutdown. That's almost 6 hours using the last 2% of battery. I did check battery status a few times and also checked websites/market for a few minutes during the last 2%.
Is this odd? Should I wipe my battery stats? It doesn't seem calibrated to me.
Does it happen often that it hangs at 2%, if so wipe the stats and drain and shut off and recharge. Could just be the new battery breaking in.
aceo07 said:
I've been slowly draining my G1 since yesterday, with wifi on and auto-check email every 10 minutes. It lasted almost 24hrs before 2%.
I noticed it slowly went to 2% around 12pm today and at around 5:30pm, it finally shutdown. That's almost 6 hours using the last 2% of battery. I did check battery status a few times and also checked websites/market for a few minutes during the last 2%.
Is this odd? Should I wipe my battery stats? It doesn't seem calibrated to me.
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When you wipe stats you should let the battery die out then fully charge to 100. You should be happy you get so much time out of 2% though
Actually this has happened to me, it seems that once the phone enters the 5% range, it lasts just as long as everything else put together.
i wish i were that lucky to claim any of these things. My phone under very very moderate usage lasts about 2-3 hours from fully charged. It has been like this for a while and the ROM i'm running now is just making it worse. if i dont touch and send a couple texts messages it'll last up to 4 hours but that's it. I'm going to reset the stats and see if that corrects it before i go and buy a new battery.
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i wish i were that lucky to claim any of these things. My phone under very very moderate usage lasts about 2-3 hours from fully charged. It has been like this for a while and the ROM i'm running now is just making it worse. if i dont touch and send a couple texts messages it'll last up to 4 hours but that's it. I'm going to reset the stats and see if that corrects it before i go and buy a new battery.
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Which is weird because using the stock battery I can get 12+ hours with moderate usage, this includes browser and wireless tethering.
I've been recharging it for a few hours now. The phone is off. It'll charge for another 10 hours before I turn it on.
Should I have wiped battery stats before I started charging? Or can I just wipe it before I boot up Android?
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I've been recharging it for a few hours now. The phone is off. It'll charge for another 10 hours before I turn it on.
Should I have wiped battery stats before I started charging? Or can I just wipe it before I boot up Android?
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I guess wiping them at full power wont hurt, but then you must then let it fully die again and recharge it fully.
I just unplugged it from the charger. Booted into recovery, wiped battery stats, then rebooted. It now says it's at 87%. Somehow it took 13% to do those 2 things.
Hrmm, your battery life shouldn't be that bad, custom rom or not. Did you overcharge your battery? That seems to be a common cause for poor battery life.
AroundTheWorld said:
Hrmm, your battery life shouldn't be that bad, custom rom or not. Did you overcharge your battery? That seems to be a common cause for poor battery life.
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How do you overcharge it? Shouldn't it stop when it think it's full?
This morning I used 'battery info' in the settings area and it only said the voltage was 4.05v or something and at 91%. This was for at least 9hrs with phone off and using HTC usb charger. I plugged it back in, while the phone was on, and it charged to 'full' in 10 minutes.
I'm recharging with phone on now tonight. I'm also currently using my motorola razr usb charger. It seems to charge faster than the HTC usb charger. It's voltage is now 4.15v and 61% now.
AroundTheWorld said:
Hrmm, your battery life shouldn't be that bad, custom rom or not. Did you overcharge your battery? That seems to be a common cause for poor battery life.
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How do you overcharge a battery? If you mean leaving it plugged in long after it's fully charged, that is such a common thing to do it seems like lots of people would have battery problems. Almost everyone I know plugs their phone in before bed, and unplugs it in the morning. Most phones are fully charged in under 4 hours, so that leaves roughly 4-5 hours of being plugged while already fully charged every single day.
Well I'm basing that claim off of a t-mobile rep (hahah reliable isnt it?) who told me that overcharging the battery, or keeping it plugged for the majority of the day (which is what i tended to do) could harm the battery, causing it to give off false percentages or making it unable to hold a charge.
And also, from personal experience, my battery did begin to bulge outwards, and would not hold a charge for more than 4 hours. So I just assumed it was because I had a tendency to plug my g1 in when it wasn't necessary, and keep it charging. So perhaps my previous claim wasn't so well supported. I just based it off of my experience and what the reps told me.
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I just unplugged it from the charger. Booted into recovery, wiped battery stats, then rebooted. It now says it's at 87%. Somehow it took 13% to do those 2 things.
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lol haha that sucks
since i download a font pack, keyboard skin and better keyboard once my battery hits 10% it usually dies within 5-7 minutes if i have swift running in the background
but before the most recent updates my battery would last about a hour or more with just swift updating in the background and the music player on pause
Hi all.
Surely this isnt right. Had my Nexus-One 5/6 weeks i dont remember whenever they were released and shipped to the UK.
After 2 weeks i Rooted the phone, and installed the CyanogenMod.
Now i noticing today battery was stuck on 98% charging. Checked in Menu>Spare Parts>Battery Information.
Battery status: Full
Power plug: USB
Battery level: 98
Battery scale: 100
Battery health: Good
Battery voltage: 4045 mV
Battery temp: 29.5C
Battery technology: Li-Ion
Now since sending a few SMS, ans opening a Email, the level is now at 92%. Yet its still plugged in but the battery is draining! WTF is going on.
The phone has always and only been charged using USB!
I charge the phone once daily overnight while i sleep.
Surely something is wrong here?
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Hi all.
Surely this isnt right. Had my Nexus-One 5/6 weeks i dont remember whenever they were released and shipped to the UK.
After 2 weeks i Rooted the phone, and installed the CyanogenMod.
Now i noticing today battery was stuck on 98% charging. Checked in Menu>Spare Parts>Battery Information.
Battery status: Full
Power plug: USB
Battery level: 98
Battery scale: 100
Battery health: Good
Battery voltage: 4045 mV
Battery temp: 29.5C
Battery technology: Li-Ion
Now since sending a few SMS, ans opening a Email, the level is now at 92%. Yet its still plugged in but the battery is draining! WTF is going on.
The phone has always and only been charged using USB!
I charge the phone once daily overnight while i sleep.
Surely something is wrong here?
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cyan 5.0.3.1 drained the F outta my bat as well. I went back to 5.0.2 back to normal
nyzrox said:
Hi all.
After 2 weeks i Rooted the phone, and installed the CyanogenMod.
Now i noticing today battery was stuck on 98% charging.
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Surely something is wrong here?
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Nope. Cyanogen 5.0.3+ uses a new kernel which implements different charging logic.
Basically it will charge to 100% but then stop charging until the battery drops to 90%. It supposedly improves battery life by avoiding overcharging.
FYI to the OP... charging exclusively from USB is not going to help your battery in any way, contrary to what a few people on this forum think. Use the stock charger and save yourself the time.
meric04 said:
Nope. Cyanogen 5.0.3+ uses a new kernel which implements different charging logic.
Basically it will charge to 100% but then stop charging until the battery drops to 90%. It supposedly improves battery life by avoiding overcharging.
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This. Supposedly this will lead to longer battery life without a degradation in capacity due to excessive charging. This has been implemented with software logic for Li-Ion batteries in Laptops for a while now (although it doesn't appear to be default on most). You'll see it charge again once it hits 90%.
don't know if someone point out this already..
impressed by the short battery life of my Atrix, definitely lower than i expected, i make this try, and that's what i found out..
if you full charge the battery (phone shows "charged" or "100%" if you charge it when off) , then pull it out WITHOUT disconnect the usb charger, the phone reboots, then it shows a big picture of a battery with a question mark in it.. if you put in the battery again, the charge is stuck at 60%, and it takes about another hour to get the battery full..
so it seem that the phone think that battery is full, and stop charging it, when in fact it isn't..
if someone had a Motorola Milestone before, this was a known bug, due to the motorola kernel, who was solved only by some later Roms..
i haven't yet tested if using this, battery life is effectively longer, (just discovered), but with Milestone it was. a lot.
maybe our battery life can be better than it is now, if we can make phone recognize the full charge when it realy is..
P.S. i'm on stock At&T froyo.. if this was solved by latest kernel and Gingerbread i'm sorry for the useless post..
i can confirm my battery life improved after charging my phone in that way, like it was with Milestone and according to what i expected..
in fact, to charge a 1900 mA battery with a 850mA/h wall charger, it MUST takes, in a perfect world without energy dissipation, about 2h20' from discharged.. don't know about your, but my Atrix normally takes less, so it seem more than probably that it isn't really full charged
still waiting someone who test this on Gingerbread.. hope this issue's gone..
divicos said:
still waiting someone who test this on Gingerbread.. hope this issue's gone..
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Just tried it on GB 4.5.91, when I popped the battery back in it said it was at 5%. It's charging up now, I'll update when it's done charging up...
If you have CWM you can clear the battery stats, then use Battery Calibration to fully charge and calibrate. I usually leave the phone charging for about 15 minutes after I get the fully charged message, then calibrate.
CaelanT said:
If you have CWM you can clear the battery stats, then use Battery Calibration to fully charge and calibrate. I usually leave the phone charging for about 15 minutes after I get the fully charged message, then calibrate.
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So you reckon his battery isn't calibrated. If yours is, can you perhaps try what he suggests & report back? That'd be useful!
(I'm calibrating mine right now otherwise I would have tried..)
privatedoodle said:
Just tried it on GB 4.5.91, when I popped the battery back in it said it was at 5%. It's charging up now, I'll update when it's done charging up...
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Same here, how did you go?
Mine seems to be stuck on 5%
If I boot the phone, its 100% and 4200mV but as soon as I unplug it it goes to 99% and 41** mV
h0mbre_au said:
Same here, how did you go?
Mine seems to be stuck on 5%
If I boot the phone, its 100% and 4200mV but as soon as I unplug it it goes to 99% and 41** mV
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That's where I was for a long time (stuck at 5%), so I decided to calibrate the battery then give it another go. Right now the battery is draining, hopefully by tomorrow I'll have some results worth posting...
EDIT: After recalibrating, draining, and recharging, the battery still says 5% when you pull it and replace it. I'm charging up overnight, will update again tomorrow.
2ND EDIT: Charged for about an hour and a half, and it went up from 5% to 15%. After another 7 hours, it was still at 15%. Looks to me like a glitch in how the phone reads the battery, but don't know how much it's actually affecting battery life.
Today's my first day trying Green Power, so we'll see how that does.
so it seems Gingerbread acts in a different way..
maybe this bug was solved, with latest kernel, since if you're stuck on 5% and don't increase, phone is definitely NOT charging... it seems that it doesn't well recognize the amount of charge, but probably it is full..
i repeat, mine goes from 60% (when i pull and put the "charged" battery) to 100% in about an hour, bringing the total time of charging to 2h 15', that is how it needs to charge a 1900mA @850mA/h...
it's maybe simpler to check if it was solved or not.. if your phone takes about that time to full charge, we can assume that's act properly..
will try the calibration, thanks for the hint..
I used samsung fast charger for 4 months and battery life was all good , then i lost the charger so i had to charge the phone with a "not so fast charger" that took ages to charge my phone.
Never charged to 80% , and battery drain was serious.
That's when i got worried that the charger ive been using might have destroyed my battery.
So bought the "turbopower 15" charger for my MXP and at first it heated up my battery more then 60* (serious overheating issue)
After 2 or 3 charges i figured it only heats up after the percentage is 50% or higher or when i use it while charging.
And now it drain my battery like crazy!,
I just restarted my device into recovery right now and it was 45% but by the time i booted up to recovery it said 25%. How CRAZY DRAINAGE IS THAT??, Please devs help me.
Its like i dont need a stopwatch my battery drain a percent per second.
Im using purenexus 7.1.2 by @GtrCraft witb stock kernal
alihassan1397 said:
I used samsung fast charger for 4 months and battery life was all good , then i lost the charger so i had to charge the phone with a "not so fast charger" that took ages to charge my phone.
Never charged to 80% , and battery drain was serious.
That's when i got worried that the charger ive been using might have destroyed my battery.
So bought the "turbopower 15" charger for my MXP and at first it heated up my battery more then 60* (serious overheating issue)
After 2 or 3 charges i figured it only heats up after the percentage is 50% or higher or when i use it while charging.
And now it drain my battery like crazy!,
I just restarted my device into recovery right now and it was 45% but by the time i booted up to recovery it said 25%. How CRAZY DRAINAGE IS THAT??, Please devs help me.
Its like i dont need a stopwatch my battery drain a percent per second.
Im using purenexus 7.1.2 by @GtrCraft witb stock kernal
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try going back to stock rom, if the problem persists that means the battery is bad
pijes said:
try going back to stock rom, if the problem persists that means the battery is bad
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I was just using stock rom but the battery drain was still the same. I dunno if ive messed up the battery because of the "not orignal" chargers or whatever the reason is. I think the battery is now done for. I think Im just gonna sell this phone
Just buy a new battery from ebay, replace it urself. It's easy..
Ajeyvm said:
Just buy a new battery from ebay, replace it urself. It's easy..
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Thanks god. my battery is back to normal after charging it a couple times with the turbopower 15 charger. now when im home i never let it discharge past 70% this way it stays in good health.
when it went bad it discharged 10% in 20 minutes now its 10% in an hour
alihassan1397 said:
Thanks god. my battery is back to normal after charging it a couple times with the turbopower 15 charger. now when im home i never let it discharge past 70% this way it stays in good health.
when it went bad it discharged 10% in 20 minutes now its 10% in an hour
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I use tronsmart 3.0 turbo charger (backward capability for quick charge 2.0 devices). Battery life is good. I charge it when it hits 15-30%.
Peace be upon you Brothers
For the past couple of days, I've been facing this weird charging issue with my Moto G5 Plus. When I plug the charger in - the phone says it's charging, but the battery percentage remains the same for hours. After 2-3 hours of charging this way, if I unplug the charger and replug it, within a couple of seconds the battery capacity suddenly shoots up to 100%. I have the original Motorola charger, a Nokia/Microsoft charger, and a battery pack that I've tried with same results. Any advice?
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For the past couple of days, I've been facing this weird charging issue with my Moto G5 Plus. When I plug the charger in - the phone says it's charging, but the battery percentage remains the same for hours. After 2-3 hours of charging this way, if I unplug the charger and replug it, within a couple of seconds the battery capacity suddenly shoots up to 100%. I have the original Motorola charger, a Nokia/Microsoft charger, and a battery pack that I've tried with same results. Any advice?
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I don't have much to offer, but is it rooted? If it is, you can try a battery calibration app to try to recalibrate the battery, although I doubt that would help. It seems like it's charging fine but the system isn't registering the battery life until you unplug the phone and it forces the system to check the battery life (in case it's at 0-1% and has to shut down.)
In any case, if it's rooted, it's worth a try.
Drkmatr1984 said:
I don't have much to offer, but is it rooted? If it is, you can try a battery calibration app to try to recalibrate the battery, although I doubt that would help. It seems like it's charging fine but the system isn't registering the battery life until you unplug the phone and it forces the system to check the battery life (in case it's at 0-1% and has to shut down.)
In any case, if it's rooted, it's worth a try.
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Battery calibration is a fake.
Maybe your battery is dead... it happens...
nicolap8 said:
Battery calibration is a fake.
Maybe your battery is dead... it happens...
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Oh hey, you're right! I just remembered it was something people recommended back in the day with custom roms and thought I'd suggest it.
Drkmatr1984 said:
I don't have much to offer, but is it rooted? If it is, you can try a battery calibration app to try to recalibrate the battery, although I doubt that would help. It seems like it's charging fine but the system isn't registering the battery life until you unplug the phone and it forces the system to check the battery life (in case it's at 0-1% and has to shut down.)
In any case, if it's rooted, it's worth a try.
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Thankyou for replying...
The issue came 4 days back when the phone was still running stock rom oreo. I thought the problem came due to the latest security update. But i rooted and install custom romed my phone yesterday and the problem still persists.
faheem.twoface said:
Thankyou for replying...
The issue came 4 days back when the phone was still running stock rom oreo. I thought the problem came due to the latest security update. But i rooted and install custom romed my phone yesterday and the problem still persists.
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Change charger. If the problem persists change battery.
faheem.twoface said:
Thankyou for replying...
The issue came 4 days back when the phone was still running stock rom oreo. I thought the problem came due to the latest security update. But i rooted and install custom romed my phone yesterday and the problem still persists.
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How long the battery will give you life if you charge it for 2 to 3 hours???
riyan65 said:
How long the battery will give you life if you charge it for 2 to 3 hours???
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Now i am calibrating the battery in hope if it resolves charging issue. I connect the switched off phone when it shuts itself down at 0 % to the charger, it shoots upto 70 % sometimes 60, other times it shows 80 %. The number gradually decreases to 2 % during the charging. After 2 to 3 hours when i switch on the phone it shows a charged battery upto 70 to 80 %. And give me a wonderfully remarkable stand by time as i assumed that the custom ROM. It discharges normally. I cannot understand the nature of it cause i like to use my phone when it is 100 % charged and use it untill it reaches 15 %.
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Now i am calibrating the battery in hope if it resolves charging issue. I connect the switched off phone when it shuts itself down at 0 % to the charger, it shoots upto 70 % sometimes 60, other times it shows 80 %. The number gradually decreases to 2 % during the charging. After 2 to 3 hours when i switch on the phone it shows a charged battery upto 70 to 80 %. And give me a wonderfully remarkable stand by time as i assumed that the custom ROM. It discharges normally. I cannot understand the nature of it cause i like to use my phone when it is 100 % charged and use it untill it reaches 15 %.
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It seems the battery is good and, it just need the battery calibration.as it is giving a long life. But you should not fully charge the battery as lithium ion battery is capable of full charge,so you should charge it upto 80%-90%.