Still worth buying? - Xperia Z4/Z3+ General

Good day!
I've been looking for a new device to buy as a replacement for my Z1 compact. I have considered the Z5 and this phone.
I liked the Z5 at first. It has arguably better camera and has dual heat pipes. I think after that they're almost the same. But Z5 is still ~$120 more expensive than the Z3+ here in our country. So I'm picking between the two.
I have been reading a lot, and it is always conflicting. Some say overheating issue in Z3+ is gone, some not. I've been trying to fully desire the Z3+, but I'm just scared my money will go to waste if I have a device I can barely use.
There are already similar threads but those were a year ago. So my question is, is this still worth buying? Can I have some assurance that this phone will not heat up and become useless? I want a phone that can stay with me for at least 2 years. Thank you in advance for the help.

What is your average usage scenario, meaning for what will you use your phone? Playing lots of games, shooting 4K videos?
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djurkash said:
What is your average usage scenario, meaning for what will you use your phone? Playing lots of games, shooting 4K videos?
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Hi! During weekdays, I probably spend an hour or 2 of music while on commute. 3-4 hours of usage (browsing, reading, youtube) when I got home. On weekends, I spend more time on my phone. Probably double of what I do on the weekdays.
About games, I play occasionally, when I got bored or have nothing else to do. Not really heavy games.
And lastly about the camera. I take a lot of photos when I go out, buildings and stuff. Videos: rarely, and I'll use 1080p/720p if I do want to record. I do not see the benefit of 4K recording yet!

mugglearchitect said:
Hi! During weekdays, I probably spend an hour or 2 of music while on commute. 3-4 hours of usage (browsing, reading, youtube) when I got home. On weekends, I spend more time on my phone. Probably double of what I do on the weekdays.
About games, I play occasionally, when I got bored or have nothing else to do. Not really heavy games.
And lastly about the camera. I take a lot of photos when I go out, buildings and stuff. Videos: rarely, and I'll use 1080p/720p if I do want to record. I do not see the benefit of 4K recording yet!
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In that case, I can recommend Z3+ wholeheartedly, you won't experience overheating, and phone will serve you perfectly. Expect 4-5h off SOT per day depending on usage, mobile data usage, brightness etc...
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mugglearchitect said:
Good day!
I've been looking for a new device to buy as a replacement for my Z1 compact. I have considered the Z5 and this phone.
I liked the Z5 at first. It has arguably better camera and has dual heat pipes. I think after that they're almost the same. But Z5 is still ~$120 more expensive than the Z3+ here in our country. So I'm picking between the two.
I have been reading a lot, and it is always conflicting. Some say overheating issue in Z3+ is gone, some not. I've been trying to fully desire the Z3+, but I'm just scared my money will go to waste if I have a device I can barely use.
There are already similar threads but those were a year ago. So my question is, is this still worth buying? Can I have some assurance that this phone will not heat up and become useless? I want a phone that can stay with me for at least 2 years. Thank you in advance for the help.
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Go for it. As per your usage pattern you wont have any problem. If youre an audiophile then youll love it.

djurkash said:
In that case, I can recommend Z3+ wholeheartedly, you won't experience overheating, and phone will serve you perfectly. Expect 4-5h off SOT per day depending on usage, mobile data usage, brightness etc...
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Thanks! I rarely use mobile data. Only when I need to. Looks like this is my next!

akashsgpgi said:
Go for it. As per your usage pattern you wont have any problem. If youre an audiophile then youll love it.
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Thanks! Did your phone come with a good set of earphones, or should I buy a better one?

mugglearchitect said:
Thanks! Did your phone come with a good set of earphones, or should I buy a better one?
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In India the box came with a crappy headset. better to buy a good pair of earphones or headphones.

mugglearchitect said:
Thanks! Did your phone come with a good set of earphones, or should I buy a better one?
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Check in this post what I've grabbed, but different regions get different packages, there are members that went even better than me...
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djurkash said:
Check in this post what I've grabbed, but different regions get different packages, there are members that went even better than me...
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Wow, you're one lucky man!

mugglearchitect said:
Wow, you're one lucky man!
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Heh, I bought sbh54 afterwards, and I believe I'll eventually keep them instead of nc31...if you're closer, I would give them to you at bargain price...
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djurkash said:
Heh, I bought sbh54 afterwards, and I believe I'll eventually keep them instead of nc31...if you're closer, I would give them to you at bargain price...
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I'm from the other side of the world though, haha. SBH... oh bluetooth. You didn't experience any drops? Does it consume too much battery?

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I'm from the other side of the world though, haha. SBH... oh bluetooth. You didn't experience any drops? Does it consume too much battery?
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I am still testing, in my usage pattern it will last 2-3 days which is totally ok. Once so far I had connection issues, will see if it's going to repeat, but, so far so good...
What I like with them is notification party, ease of use, even this possibility to answer using the main unit only...
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djurkash said:
Check in this post what I've grabbed, but different regions get different packages, there are members that went even better than me...
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In my country I didn't even get any earphones at all. [emoji23]
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mugglearchitect said:
I'm from the other side of the world though, haha. SBH... oh bluetooth. You didn't experience any drops? Does it consume too much battery?
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I drive 300 miles (4 1/2 hours) on Mondays and Thursdays for business. I stream music the whole way (Pandora) connected via bluetooth to my car with the screen off. I typically reach my destination having used 15 - 20% of the battery life. I find that acceptable.

akashsgpgi said:
Go for it. As per your usage pattern you wont have any problem. If youre an audiophile then youll love it.
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good wishes.....i think this is the r8 place to ask....i am confused on z3 and z3+ ...i want to buy a z3+ as it is way bette than z3......but i am afraid abou the heating issue. ....but i have heard that the heating issue is gone after marshmallow update ..is this true......??? plz suggest me buddies.....
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mugglearchitect said:
Thanks! I rarely use mobile data. Only when I need to. Looks like this is my next!
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@djurkash
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@riasat.sheikh
In my country, price difference between the two is 20eur in favor of Z3. I wouldn't say Z3+ is way better, it is better but Z3's biggest advantage is battery. If you can live with 4h SOT vs. 6h, then go for Z3+. Heating issues are past, I am not playing games to comment that part, but for experimenting I took once long 4K video, and it recorded 10 minutes with small temperature raise, when I stopped forget recording. And that temperature increase was not higher than charging schedule or some longer browsing etc...
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djurkash said:
@riasat.sheikh
In my country, price difference between the two is 20eur in favor of Z3. I wouldn't say Z3+ is way better, it is better but Z3's biggest advantage is battery. If you can live with 4h SOT vs. 6h, then go for Z3+. Heating issues are past, I am not playing games to comment that part, but for experimenting I took once long 4K video, and it recorded 10 minutes with small temperature raise, when I stopped forget recording. And that temperature increase was not higher than charging schedule or some longer browsing etc...
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i dnt need battery much 4h is way best for me....as i use my mbl only for multimedia....and not so much use.....sometimes i play games and 4k i dnt use at all...1080p is good for me....so u suggest me z3+ or should i buy any other xperia device...
and also is the z3+ future secure i mean for official android updates....as i saw z3 gets updates faster it got android N preview also
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I don't know what are prices for each of these...For instance, I would even go to Z5 if it isn't pricier more than 80 euro vs. Z3+
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djurkash said:
I don't know what are prices for each of these...For instance, I would even go to Z5 if it isn't pricier more than 80 euro vs. Z3+
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z5 is out of my budget.....as z3+ is INR 26000 but z5 is INR 39000 so i cnt buy that.....i am thinking for z3+ as it is somewhat better than z3 ...but what do u suggest me bro
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Nexus 4 to Xperia Z !!

Hi guys I'm using now the Nexus4 but actually im satisfied witht he battery life. AND I really liked the purple Xperia Z. so I was thinking to get the XZ . is it worth it to get the XZ instead of the N4 ??
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Hi guys I'm using now the Nexus4 but actually im satisfied witht he battery life. AND I really liked the purple Xperia Z. so I was thinking to get the XZ . is it worth it to get the XZ instead of the N4 ??
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After a week with the Z I'm gonna say no. Go for the One or S4. But if you got your heart set on the Z then go for it. You'll get different opinions from everyone.
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recklesslife85 said:
After a week with the Z I'm gonna say no. Go for the One or S4. But if you got your heart set on the Z then go for it. You'll get different opinions from everyone.
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Battery the main offender? Or is the screen not to your taste, too.
omersak said:
Battery the main offender? Or is the screen not to your taste, too.
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Battery, it drains like mad when in use. Its terrible compared to other smartphones out there. Screen is fine if you dont get about viewing angles. Its a good phone, dont get me wrong but I'm a heavy user and this phone cant get me through a day out so need to get something else. My iPhone 5 gets through the day and my S3 did. Not trying to put you off getting one, we all have different needs.
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Battery, it drains like mad when in use. Its terrible compared to other smartphones out there. Screen is fine if you dont get about viewing angles. Its a good phone, dont get me wrong but I'm a heavy user and this phone cant get me through a day out so need to get something else. My iPhone 5 gets through the day and my S3 did. Not trying to put you off getting one, we all have different needs.
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I see. I only ask because you were genuinely excited about the Xperia Z. Shame the battery couldn't live up to your requirements.
The battery issue won't be resolved unless OEMs stop competing for the 'slimmest smartphone' title and start slapping 3000mAh+ batteries on their phones ala Motorola
Samsung and LG do the same but only on their humungous phablets. Can't comment on the S4 but, as much as I dislike Samsung, i doubt they'll ever compromise on battery.
omersak said:
I see. I only ask because you were genuinely excited about the Xperia Z. Shame the battery couldn't live up to your requirements.
The battery issue won't be resolved unless OEMs stop competing for the 'slimmest smartphone' title and start slapping 3000mAh+ batteries on their phones ala Motorola
Samsung and LG do the same but only on their humungous phablets. Can't comment on the S4 but, as much as I dislike Samsung, i doubt they'll ever compromise on battery.
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I know :/ I still love the phone.. I got the One on order but seems like its delayed. I don't want to get a Samsung again, same old like Apple. That's why I went for Sony this time but gonna try the One out and see how I get on with that.
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I know :/ I still love the phone.. I got the One on order but seems like its delayed. I don't want to get a Samsung again, same old like Apple. That's why I went for Sony this time but gonna try the One out and see how I get on with that.
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I have a feeling that you'll end up with an S4 at the end with it's 3200mAh or so battery. Although early reports indicate the the HTC One has slightly better battery than the XZ - mainly whilst watching videos ( 8ish hours vs 6ish hours, as per expertreviews).
Good luck!
I got the One on order but seems like its delayed. I don't want to get a Samsung again, same old like Apple. That's why I went for Sony this time but gonna try the One out and see how I get on with that.
Hey guys. I am getting top battery life with mine 2 days plus phone calls music games internet all you need to do is to underclock with setcpu app juice defender plus another launcher e.g. Launcher pro not stock
Solution fixed. This works with all android phones
Thanks
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thank you all guys I heard the note II has an amazing battery life
Battery life on the z could be better but it's comparable to S3 and Nexus 4 so I'm happy. I'm getting a charging dock or two and my car charger is 1a and charges the phone on AC so I'm more than chuffed as all my other phones only charged up to max 650ma on USB charging mode.
As for the one, battery life will be as awful as every other HTC released and the 4mp camera will be useless unless you only upload to instagram or Facebook.
Battery life is comparable to Nexus 4, but not to SIII, that one has much better battery life. Of these three I like XZ the most, but all of them have their pros and cons.
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are you satisfied?

hello guys,
i'm going to buy this phone tonight... just a question...
are you satisfied about the phone? there is something you hate ?i saw a lot of review but i wanna a customer opinion
thx a lot guys!
ancestrale said:
hello guys,
i'm going to buy this phone tonight... just a question...
are you satisfied about the phone? there is something you hate ?i saw a lot of review but i wanna a customer opinion
thx a lot guys!
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I like the phone, yes, but Sony's support.... that's a whole other question...
Actually i like the phone but it's become quickly hot. -.
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The best design, specs and performance for a midrange phone
The only problem the others are complaining about is the screen color and camera but still its pretty decent
For me its Not something i could complain about because this phone is Just amazing... The battery, the performance, gaming... This can compete to other quadcore smartphones
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Basically it's a money well spent, this is a midrange phone performing at high end capacity. Unless you are very much concerned about os updates, as you may see in the other thread in this section.
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ancestrale said:
hello guys,
i'm going to buy this phone tonight... just a question...
are you satisfied about the phone? there is something you hate ?i saw a lot of review but i wanna a customer opinion
thx a lot guys!
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Im not satisfied.
Front and backcamera are horrible.
The wifi range is damn low
The phone is gettin hot pretty fast
Multi-tasking doesnt work sometimes (sometimes I get fc, when I listen to music while browsin for an example)
Love mine. No problems, just a few minor bugs (wifi is weak, led bar no worky in stamina mode)
Mme so u like this phone but not 100%...i really don't care about camera... Mmm I have to think a bit before buy it
Thanks a lot people!
Wait for the update before you buy the phone.. the poor wifi and camera need a serious fix, if this doesn't happen I don't advice anyone to buy the phone.
I bought mine only a few days ago and I'm blown away by the bang for your money. It's a great mid range phone that feels high quality. Even on 4.1.2, the device feels really smooth and fluid to use. Plays games really well, Robocop, Real racing, injustice all play great.
Battery life is really good with stamina mode active. The sony UI is not floaty and quite a few of the bundles apps can be uninstalled without even rooting. Rooting is easy as pie, takes a few mins with 1 app.
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I like it but after seeing the new z1 mini waterproof phone I really want that now lol
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I sold mine a few days ago.
Zero updates, still on 4.1 and somewhat buggy....8 long months were enough for me. I'm going Z1
SP: Great hardware, bad software.
slyr114 said:
I like it but after seeing the new z1 mini waterproof phone I really want that now lol
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the z1 mini will blow this out of the water, but don't forget that the z1 mini is a flagship almost and this is a midrange, if you can afford it go for the z1 mini other wise the sp is more than great. i got mine for free on a 2yr contract with a 100$ gift card. this phone competes with quad core flagships and in some ways out performs them like frame rate and battery. the only thing i don't like is the long wait till 4.3 and 4.4 other wise the camera is ok you just have to play with the settings. the light bar is EPIC people always stop and ask me what phone im using, its really cool. it never gets hot for me and never lags the biggest complaint is that it docent come with too many case option and accessories other wise this phone is superb id recommend it, feel free to pm if you have any questions
SIMPLY THE BEST MID RANGE PHONE RIGHT NOW. PERIOD.
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I too suggest u to wait for some more days until the update comes.. See if the camera and WiFi problem solves...
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It's a good phone. But the software need to be improved.
The memory management is very, very bad... If you are listen the music and open the Internet Browser probably the software will kill the music app.
The appdraw is frequently "redrawing".
You wont have a lot of Custom ROM (however there are good Custom ROM like eXistenZ).
Anyway it is a good phone.
If I were to buy a new phone today in the same range price I would of Moto G.
my sp c5303 doesn't have any of the wi-fi issues i keep reading here, maybe it's fixed on newer devices? i got mine in last november
I like it very much but the main problem which I face is the touch problem.
If that is solved then its great
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Getting the Xperia Z

Guys i had decided to get a Sony smartphone with waterproof,so i think this is the best option for me.
It costs about RM1,200 in Malaysia.
I'm also considering of Xperia Z1 but it's too expensive,costs about RM1,700,which was out of my budget.
So guys please tell me about this phone cons & pros,and about the 4.3 update performance,thanks :fingers-crossed:
Got some questions,will you think that Sony will support it till 2015 ? (Maybe Android 5.0)
Is it worth it to buy ? Any problem with it ?
1 more thing should i wait for Sony MWC 2014 ?
Maybe Sony will unveil a device which have the specs of about SP.
The Sirius will be pricey so i can't afford it.
Ben Ling said:
Guys i had decided to get a Sony smartphone with waterproof,so i think this is the best option for me.
It costs about RM1,200 in Malaysia.
I'm also considering of Xperia Z1 but it's too expensive,costs about RM1,700,which was out of my budget.
So guys please tell me about this phone cons & pros,and about the 4.3 update performance,thanks :fingers-crossed:
Got some questions,will you think that Sony will support it till 2015 ? (Maybe Android 5.0)
Is it worth it to buy ? Any problem with it ?
1 more thing should i wait for Sony MWC 2014 ?
Maybe Sony will unveil a device which have the specs of about SP.
The Sirius will be pricey so i can't afford it.
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It's a solid phone, but the 4.3 update brought serious bugs, the cam and battery time is greatly affected by those bugs. Let's hope sony fixes them.
Also it won't get past android 4.4.
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It is a good phone. there are some issues with the back plate coming unglued (if you would read the forum instead of asking for the info to be served on a silver plate you'd know ).
the 4.3 update is fast and fluid, and i have found no bug except for "excessive delay, took vsync XX ms", which I have not read about on this forum, and a symmetry bug when taking screenshots.
battery life is ok, I can play ingress for ~3.5 hours (3g, GPS, screen on, rendering tons of 3D graphics)
it will hopefully be supported until 2015 (the Xperia T also got a 4.3 update...)
It is a good phone. I recommed update 4.4 rom
Hipotalamus said:
It is a good phone. I recommed update 4.4 rom
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well i have just bought it...
Ben Ling said:
well i have just bought it...
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Like it?
doministry said:
Like it?
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Like it very much...but i like Z1 more,problem is no so much budget...
Ben Ling said:
Like it very much...but i like Z1 more,problem is no so much budget...
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Here in Poland th difference is small:
the official Store wants only 300pln/75 Euro more for Z1.
doministry said:
Here in Poland th difference is small:
the official Store wants only 300pln/75 Euro more for Z1.
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I bought it at RM1,230...AP Set (means not original warranty of Sony)
The Z1 only have Ori,costs RM1,990
doministry said:
Here in Poland th difference is small:
the official Store wants only 300pln/75 Euro more for Z1.
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do you know how to root the latest 4.3 firmware ?
Ben Ling said:
do you know how to root the latest 4.3 firmware ?
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There's no exploit to root 4.3 currently, so the only way to root if you're already on 4.3 is to unlock your bootloader and flash a kernel with a custom recovery.
Either that or downgrade to 4.2.2, root and flash a prerooted 4.3 rom.
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do you know how to root the latest 4.3 firmware ?
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Nope. I didn't do it.
Hi Ben,
Its a good phone, I've used same Z for almost a year now. Like the others comment here, watch out for the back cover issue. Find a shop to glue it back with 3rd party glue if it loosens, coz the foam strip glue will not last more than a year or so....water goes in...all kinds of problems in drying. And ensure the flap covers are locked in tight when you wash your phone.
Ben, may I kindly ask the contact of shop you got your Z from ? At that price, I might get a spare one as my current one has been flooded with water many times....Thanks
emailpeter said:
Hi Ben,
Its a good phone, I've used same Z for almost a year now. Like the others comment here, watch out for the back cover issue. Find a shop to glue it back with 3rd party glue if it loosens, coz the foam strip glue will not last more than a year or so....water goes in...all kinds of problems in drying. And ensure the flap covers are locked in tight when you wash your phone.
Ben, may I kindly ask the contact of shop you got your Z from ? At that price, I might get a spare one as my current one has been flooded with water many times....Thanks
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Hi,I stay in Malaysia and i bought from a handphone shop at RM1,230 for not original Sony warranty and white color from here http://www.mudah.my/li?ca=8_s&id=88141
a few things you should keep in mind
camera is bad
phone gets hot
battery life is mediocre
screen has washed out colours
wifi is weak
sony is late with updates
dev scene seems to be a bit slower compared to the HTC and Samsung flagship devices.
also, i listen to a lot of music so the flaps get annoying
spazzy1912 said:
a few things you should keep in mind
camera is bad
phone gets hot
battery life is mediocre
screen has washed out colours
wifi is weak
sony is late with updates
dev scene seems to be a bit slower compared to the HTC and Samsung flagship devices.
also, i listen to a lot of music so the flaps get annoying
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- The camera isn't perfect and isn't great under low light, but is acceptable under most conditions for me. Hopefully, an update will return the camera quality to what it was under 4.2.2.
- The phone only gets hot after extended periods of playing demanding games for me.
- I get at least 5 hours of screen on time and 2-3% of battery drain overnight. Hardly mediocre.
- The screen may look washed out when compared to other devices, but to me the colour is more natural.
- I get good wifi reception at the end of my large garden, maybe 60-70 metres from my router.
- At least 6 updates, including 2 upgrades to new versions of Android in 9 months is late with updates? If you want fast access to the latest version of Android, you should have gone Nexus.
- Less popular devices will have less dev support. The development section is far from dead though.
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spazzy1912 said:
a few things you should keep in mind
camera is bad
phone gets hot
battery life is mediocre
screen has washed out colours
wifi is weak
sony is late with updates
dev scene seems to be a bit slower compared to the HTC and Samsung flagship devices.
also, i listen to a lot of music so the flaps get annoying
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I don't know. As I always try to find good settins, I say Z camera is great.
I use it very very often and the general outcome is great. In every conditions.
Nothing is washed out here as well. You repeat some bull..t, the screen is fantastic.
doministry said:
I don't know. As I always try to find good settins, I say Z camera is great.
I use it very very often and the general outcome is great. In every conditions.
Nothing is washed out here as well. You repeat some bull..t, the screen is fantastic.
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kingvortex said:
- The camera isn't perfect and isn't great under low light, but is acceptable under most conditions for me. Hopefully, an update will return the camera quality to what it was under 4.2.2.
- The phone only gets hot after extended periods of playing demanding games for me.
- I get at least 5 hours of screen on time and 2-3% of battery drain overnight. Hardly mediocre.
- The screen may look washed out when compared to other devices, but to me the colour is more natural.
- I get good wifi reception at the end of my large garden, maybe 60-70 metres from my router.
- At least 6 updates, including 2 upgrades to new versions of Android in 9 months is late with updates? If you want fast access to the latest version of Android, you should have gone Nexus.
- Less popular devices will have less dev support. The development section is far from dead though.
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+1 to that
The only thing that isn't that good on the screen are the black levels and viewing angles.
I honestly cant see a big difference to my n5 screen except these.
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People think the screen is washed out because they're usually comparing it to a Samsung device that the colours are hugely over saturated on.
Like I said, I think the Z screen actually more faithfully reproduces colours rather than trying to make them pop out of the screen.
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Plus on videos and photos Bravia kicks in, giving amazing contrast.
On UI it's more settle so it doesn't kill the eyes.

Z5 Compact overheating issues - could this be a big problem already?

Just noted this article so take it with a grain of salt I suppose:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Snap...t-owners-sweat-with-overheating-issue_id74367
From what I can tell it's just one person so far reporting those types of issues but, you do have to wonder about it considering the 810 does have that reputation for overheating and Sony choosing it for their Z5 Compact if the combination will be eventually seen as a bad one.
I had a lot of interest in this smartphone, serious interest, now I'm having to step back and rethink that possible purchase until more info comes along.
Anyone else seen such reports anywhere else?
br0adband said:
Just noted this article so take it with a grain of salt I suppose:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Snap...t-owners-sweat-with-overheating-issue_id74367
From what I can tell it's just one person so far reporting those types of issues but, you do have to wonder about it considering the 810 does have that reputation for overheating and Sony choosing it for their Z5 Compact if the combination will be eventually seen as a bad one.
I had a lot of interest in this smartphone, serious interest, now I'm having to step back and rethink that possible purchase until more info comes along.
Anyone else seen such reports anywhere else?
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Absolutely no issue.
PA posting **** again.
My CPU-temp never exceeded 50-55°C so far even when gaming.
It's just right Sony went with the 810, especially the 3D performance is way above the 808.
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One variable that everybody keeps forgetting about is the build and the materials of the device. The Z5c is glass on the back which conducts even the smallest amount of heat like its a big deal (happened on my Nexus 4).
Right now, I'm hoping that dbrand or somebody will make skins for this device and then I'll be more happier.
At casual usage my Z5C doesn't produce heat at all. When playing titles like real racing 3 it gets as warm as the Z3C.. No worries.
Mine is fine. No overheating here.
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Mine gets no hotter than my Z3c. When I got it on Friday, I logged into Spotify and downloaded tracks solidly for about 2hrs - got a bit warm but no overheating.
The user who made the touch issue video on Youtube stated in comments that it really doesn't have any overheating issues. I'm not even sure he knows that his video is being used at Phonearena.
My tests on 4K recording - average CPU temperature when recording is about 60°C. When over 65, information about high temperature displays - at about 8 minutes of recording. When CPU got to 69-70 the recording stopped (9:20) and camera shut down. After that CPU temperature dropped down to 53 and is slowly going down. But the phone itself is still very hot.
Edit: tested using com.yanyan.cputemp
The user who made the touch issue video on Youtube stated in comments that it really doesn't have any overheating issues. I'm not even sure he knows that his video is being used at Phonearena.
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Yeah, the guys with the touch screen problems are sometimes experiencing them after rebooting the phone - I doubt they are due to overheating.
The screen goes sometimes bad when charging, or using 4k film. I've had my phone about 2 days and so far has had restart it 5-6 times.
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
Absolutely no issue.
PA posting **** again.
My CPU-temp never exceeded 50-55°C so far even when gaming.
It's just right Sony went with the 810, especially the 3D performance is way above the 808.
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What app do you use to check CPU temp?
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What app do you use to check CPU temp?
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DevCheck Pro.
This is an App one can trust, as the developer himself has got a SD 810 device.
No matter what i'm doing with the phone, it always seems either cool or a bit warm.
Depends on the SOC-binning and other facts, i may dive into /sys to find out some stuff.
My previous Xperia Z was about 15-20°C hotter while gaming then my Z5C.
Tommy-Geenexus said:
DevCheck Pro.
This is an App one can trust, as the developer himself has got a SD 810 device.
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Thanks for info about the used app - great to have one to check the 810 chipset...
I´m using it now on my tablet z4
Yea Phone Arena telling lies because this aint true and thats why they removed the article!!!!!
Guys, on my spare iPhone I am experiencing similar issue with no touch response on screen from time to time which is only resolved by locking screen and unlock it. So we are not alone and we have nothing to complain.
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Got my z5c today, no issues so far
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Bialynia said:
Got my z5c today, no issues so far
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Are you in the US? Where did you purchase it from?
scottjb said:
Are you in the US? Where did you purchase it from?
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Clove in the UK, quick delivery.
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Got mine from clove too. Try doing some timelapse and AR stuff with the camera and you will see just how toasty it gets and how fast. It is most definitely a problem. Especially when you go into these modes and it warns you that its going to get hot and may shut down!
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Got mine from clove too. Try doing some timelapse and AR stuff with the camera and you will see just how toasty it gets and how fast. It is most definitely a problem. Especially when you go into these modes and it warns you that its going to get hot and may shut down!
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It does slow down when rendering the AR but nothing slower than the Z3C i previously owned. And that heat messeges is a standard for Sony, were present on Z2,Z3 seriers and now Z5 as a notification which you can ignore.
There is no overheating of this device, there is only slight warmth in back area which is perfectly normal.

Z5 impressions so far

Some of my impressions after a few days of usage
- Very snappy and fast
- Screen is brilliant enough
- Design is beautiful, the graphite colour looks great
- The Camera is great just when you know it
- 23mpx should be improved a bit with manual ISO and better detail
- 8mpx is great
- They added colours to the contacts which makes scrolling through sms threads a bit
- There is more space available on the homescreen, one extra line compared to the Z2
- Buttons are great
- I just love the sound when talking - it's the best sounding Xperia in calls to date
- Stereo speakers are quite good too
- I don't like to have SIM and SD on the same tray, I can't put in/take out SD card without a reboot
- I still use it more than usual so I cannot fully comment on batt life
- I love the much faster charging now!
- As I mentioned earlier, I was disapponted with NFC/PCCompanion performance of Xperia Transfer, Cloud option did the trick
- Calendar sync (on a fresh deice) didn't work with all the cathegories
- Deleting sms theads is very fast now
- No problems with overheating
- So far it's a very very good phone, very sleek epxerience
It's good to hear that someone has something positive to say about the Z5. I agree with most of what you have to say too, but it seems like we're in a minority.
I don't think we're minority
I agree with above too.
Love the screen. Even coming from LG G3, the Sony screen smokes it in terms of colours and quality.
I think most the negatives are around when a phone launches. Problems occur during the build process. Even mine has a slight lighter part in the center of the screen on the back light. But it's not bad enough for me to care and take it back.
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Well need to say it - Z5 bring some problems with it BUT they dont make this model bad and sum of all cons and pros still made me choose it vs s6.
Phone is fast and feels "clean" compared to samsung devices.
The design is dmn nice and buttons position + screen position vs case size is a big + when u realise it was made this way intentionaly.
Lots of ppl say - waste of space ( space between phone edge and screen edge and buttons on screen not under ) when i play on it or type on it - its dmn easier to hold it.
I rly like the phone - even if expectations were a little bit higher.
I was thinking about s6 / edge, note 4, g4 and some others. If change i would probably try htc or huawei.
The only thing i would like to know is what is the real % of unhappy ppl cos of bad working / damaged z5 compared to s6 and others.
Thanks for the review kindly update us about battery life since i can relate (z2 user also) if im gonna go with z5 or stick to z2 and go z6. Since im now in a tight budget my first baby is about to come.
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styxter said:
Thanks for the review kindly update us about battery life since i can relate (z2 user also) if im gonna go with z5 or stick to z2 and go z6. Since im now in a tight budget my first baby is about to come.
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I'd wait for Marshmallow before you take initial reactions on battery which means by then you may be better with Z6 [emoji1]
At moment I'm averaging about 3.5 hours SOT but lasting 24+ hours easy
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bryjenko said:
I'd wait for Marshmallow before you take initial reactions on battery which means by then you may be better with Z6 [emoji1]
At moment I'm averaging about 3.5 hours SOT but lasting 24+ hours easy
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I agree with all those points above, it's a good phone. But the battery life is pretty bad compared to other Xperias. I would wait and see if marshmallow fixes it but I have doubts. The phone uses WAY too much power when it's in use - when it's in sleep mode it's fine, the same as my Z3. But in use it's about half the battery life I got on my Z3.
I've just downloaded qualcomm batteryguru don't know if it's any good or not it's still in learning mode, i'm really happy with my z5 but battery could be a bit better...
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jeremy_inc said:
I agree with all those points above, it's a good phone. But the battery life is pretty bad compared to other Xperias. I would wait and see if marshmallow fixes it but I have doubts. The phone uses WAY too much power when it's in use - when it's in sleep mode it's fine, the same as my Z3. But in use it's about half the battery life I got on my Z3.
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coming from galaxy s4 and used to just make it through the day with normal use and got around 3.5 hrs sot max. with the z5 and the same use i end up with at least 50% left at the end of the day. 5.0 hrs sot is no problem.
i'm happy!
Yeah I think the battery at the moment is software related. I have no doubt we will see some improvements.
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Almost fine but they should fix the occassional stuttering of the UI and camera performance in low light / indoor + give the iso mode and others to each megapixel...
How are some people getting 5hr screen on time mine won't do much more than 3hrs?
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I got 4:30 SOT.
What's your setup you using stamina mode? Screen brightness? Just trying to figure out if I've got a rogue app munching power thanks
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What's your setup you using stamina mode? Screen brightness? Just trying to figure out if I've got a rogue app munching power thanks
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Yeah I'm maxing sort of 3.5 to 4 with no battery saving efforts. Be keen to know what people are doing to get 5 hours too
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wakers said:
What's your setup you using stamina mode? Screen brightness? Just trying to figure out if I've got a rogue app munching power thanks
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I never use any Stamina. Brightness around 50%.
I always turn off internet adn wifi and bluetooth off when I don't use it.
I don't use neither push emails nor automatic notifications.
And some apps turned off...
I believe Snapchat or Instagram in the background also sucks juice,
so I force close these when the phone is just on standby.
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I never use any Stamina. Brightness around 50%.
I always turn off internet adn wifi and bluetooth off when I don't use it.
I don't use neither push emails nor automatic notifications.
And some apps turned off...
I believe Snapchat or Instagram in the background also sucks juice,
so I force close these when the phone is just on standby.
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Snapchat & Facebook are two worst apps for battery
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Snapchat & Facebook are two worst apps for battery
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Mm, Facebook in my case was never ever a problem.
i have adaptive brightness on, with the slider in the default spot (half way). no stamina / savibg modes on. gps, wifi and bt always on and have 2 e-mail accounts pushing in the background.
i have deleted / turned off most sony crap, because i use google alternatives.
(still) manage to get 5 hrs.
info: black rev 4, still on 32.0.a.4.11

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