I understand that my stock Verizon HTC 10 will probably wind up having to be wiped if it is eventually going to gain root and / or S-off through Sunshine, if and when Sunshine supports the Verizon version of this phone. That being said, I am wondering what software others here use to do a complete backup / restore on an un-rooted phone. I've been searching, and so far have not found any options that seem to be able to make the phone "exactly as it had been." Is this not possible? I really don't want to have to go through loads of settings, etc. again. I'd like to be able to create some sort of backup just before doing whatever I need to do to root / S-off, and then once the rooting / S-off is done, do some sort of restore, and have my phone back in essentially the same state as it had bee, but with root and / or S-off.
Is this not possible?
Thanks!
I don't think so. I've been thinking the same thing and the only options that can back up all the apps, data, and settings require root. It's really quite frustrating.
A few minutes after I started this thread jcase posted the tweet indicating that they now have unlock and s-off for the Verizon HTC 10. I'm pretty sure we're going to have to wipe our phones in the process, though. I hope there's some solution better than starting from scratch.
Luckily I have a TB backup from my old phone and I've only had the 10 for a few days. I think I might just go ahead and root and then restore from that.
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Luckily I have a TB backup from my old phone and I've only had the 10 for a few days. I think I might just go ahead and root and then restore from that.
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I too have a couple of TB backups from my V10, however, all the apps were still Lollipop, so as big of a pain in the ass as it will be, I'm going to do a clean wipe when and start from scratch and make a base backup just for this phone.
The one thing I think I miss from the LG V10, is that it had a backup program built in that would back up your apps and stuff to the external SD. That was very bloody handy.
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The one thing I think I miss from the LG V10, is that it had a backup program built in that would back up your apps and stuff to the external SD. That was very bloody handy.
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What was the app called? I thought HTC had put most of their stock apps on the Play store?
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What was the app called? I thought HTC had put most of their stock apps on the Play store?
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I think it was LG Backup. It did basically what TB did and backed up all your current applications so you could restore them from wipe. I used it some. Fairly decent. IMO. Save some time
TB is the best but requires root. I am not sure of any backup apps that backup app data. I would take screen shots of your home screen and even the app drawer just to make sure you have everything. Once you gain TWRP, you can do an absolute complete backup.
Also, HTC used you have a decent backup up. Better than Google's backup imo. But it was discontinued for MM.
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Hello XDA,
After doing some reading, I decided I wanted to back up my entire phone (effectively copy the whole OS as-is) before I start tempering with it (root, ROMs, etc).
But all services I found for this are root-only, and getting root wipes your entire phone.
Do you see my issue here? I really dont want to do anything with it, before I have created a full backup, which I then can restore in case things go bad.
Now my question to you is, Is there any tool that does this WITHOUT tempering with the phone as it is now? So no root, _maybe_ install an app, but nothing that would involve changing the phone as drastically as root does. (I know root isnt considerated drastically, but I'm over-exaggerating to stress the fact I would really like to solve it without that)
Thanks!
LeandroMarceddu said:
Hello XDA,
After doing some reading, I decided I wanted to back up my entire phone (effectively copy the whole OS as-is) before I start tempering with it (root, ROMs, etc).
But all services I found for this are root-only, and getting root wipes your entire phone.
Do you see my issue here? I really dont want to do anything with it, before I have created a full backup, which I then can restore in case things go bad.
Now my question to you is, Is there any tool that does this WITHOUT tempering with the phone as it is now? So no root, _maybe_ install an app, but nothing that would involve changing the phone as drastically as root does. (I know root isnt considerated drastically, but I'm over-exaggerating to stress the fact I would really like to solve it without that)
Thanks!
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Rooting doesn't wipe your phone, I ran unRevoked 3.0 on mine from linux and it doesn't destroy everything on your phone, just gives you root access. from there you can boot into clockworkmod and choose nandroid backup, this will back everything up as it is. there are guides to do this all over the forum, hope this helps!
if i have anything wrong, feel free to correct me people
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Rooting doesn't wipe your phone, I ran unRevoked 3.0 on mine from linux and it doesn't destroy everything on your phone, just gives you root access. from there you can boot into clockworkmod and choose nandroid backup, this will back everything up as it is. there are guides to do this all over the forum, hope this helps!
if i have anything wrong, feel free to correct me people
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Yep root does not wipe your phone, you can do a nandroid backup and dl titanium backup from market to backup all your apps.
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chrisandchips said:
Rooting doesn't wipe your phone, I ran unRevoked 3.0 on mine from linux and it doesn't destroy everything on your phone, just gives you root access. from there you can boot into clockworkmod and choose nandroid backup, this will back everything up as it is. there are guides to do this all over the forum, hope this helps!
if i have anything wrong, feel free to correct me people
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Wow I am 101% I have read it would wipe everything. Thanks for clearing this all out. I'm gonna try this all. I will edit this post when I find the website responsible for giving the false info. Thanks both!
EDIT: lifehacker.com/5563527/back-up-your-entire-android-phone-to-the-cloud
"Then again, to get your phone rooted, you'll need to wipe it entirely, so it's something of a Catch 22. "
Weird, seeing how lifehacker usually is trustworthy.
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I want to root my MT4G, bored of the whole stock feel/litle hang/ and bloated wear
Before i root my phone i want to know what should i do first, all the app on the phone i don't give a crap about. so i don't really need to back anything up. my contact i need to save that pretty much it.
BeEazy10 said:
I want to root my MT4G, bored of the whole stock feel/litle hang/ and bloated wear
Before i root my phone i want to know what should i do first, all the app on the phone i don't give a crap about. so i don't really need to back anything up. my contact i need to save that pretty much it.
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first of all you need to back your phone up. You need to keep at least one Nandroid of your phone's ROM incase you have any problems in the future you have a point that you can go back to.
secondly when you wipe the phone, if you should load a new ROM onto the phone it will erase the contact list. However since it is syncing them to your Google account when you log in it will restore them automatically.
If you should want to keep everything you have and just swap ROMS. Root and install the recovery image to the phone, install Titanium Backup and back up the phone's apps and settings. The flash the new ROM (and GApps if needed) and use Titanium Backup to restore everything.
Am using Tibu to back up apps now, but am going to 'attempt' to flash a new ROM that's rooted and just in case it doesn't go as planned and I lose root, I'd like to know if there's a app or whatever that allows a unrooted phone the same or near same options and ability to back up apps that Tibu has. Any animal like that exist???
No, Titanium Backup is as powerful as it is because of root access. Without that, there is no way to get the same functionality, no matter what app you're using.
And if you're trying to flash a rooted ROM to a phone that's already higher than 4.4.4, you aren't going to find success...
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No, Titanium Backup is as powerful as it is because of root access. Without that, there is no way to get the same functionality, no matter what app you're using.
And if you're trying to flash a rooted ROM to a phone that's already higher than 4.4.4, you aren't going to find success...
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I'm on rooted 4.3. going to rooted Jasmine 6
Sporttster said:
Am using Tibu to back up apps now, but am going to 'attempt' to flash a new ROM that's rooted and just in case it doesn't go as planned and I lose root, I'd like to know if there's a app or whatever that allows a unrooted phone the same or near same options and ability to back up apps that Tibu has. Any animal like that exist???
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This shouldn't even be a concern.. You're missing the most important step in flashing a new ROM. It should be in every single ROM thread, for any device here on XDA, its usually the first on the list of instructions...?
MAKE A BACKUP OF YOUR CURRENT ROM!!
You do this in your custom recovery, TWRP, CWM or Phils...
This restores your system exactly as it was, when you made the backup, your call logs, messages, apps, app datas, even app caches, if you select it when making the backup..
Backups are one of the main purposes for a custom recovery, if you screw up, you can always go back..
Were you not aware of this till now??
Unless you're intention is to stick with the ROM, that's not rooted.. Not sure why you'd want that, but everyone's different, so I'd recommend using Helium instead of TB, root isn't required with that app..
I'm not on a developer edition. It does not have a unlocked bootloader, so not sure I can 'go back' if the thing doesn't work right. Maybe I'm wrong. But I've heard once you flash past 4.4 there is no going back to root and I'm going to 6. In the past on unlocked units I've had no problems going back. But locked is another animal...it's rooted but not unlocked...
Not sure why I didn't unlock and robot phone initially. However, I'm planning to do this now. Unfortunately, by waiting, I've got a good filtered list of apps installed that I use compared to the ones I've installed over the years.
In the past, when already rooted, I would just do a backup using titanium of the apps currently on the phone and just restore that set after a clean wipe which would would also bring back all of my app settings.
Is there a similar way of doing this now or do I just have to suck it up and get a current list of all the apps I have and do an ota install of them again?
If you do a factory reset on the device when you log back on it will ask if you want to restore your apps. Just click yes and it will put everything back on that was there before.
How would it know what "before" was though. Does it somehow know what was on the device just before and not pull apps that I have installed since the beginning of time?
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How would it know what "before" was though. Does it somehow know what was on the device just before and not pull apps that I have installed since the beginning of time?
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Turn on developer options and use "adb" to backup the phone.
Hello there!
I rooted my Nexus 6P, as I've done with every Android I've owned since my Nexus One, as soon as it arrived.
However, I really like NFC payments (we don't have Google Pay in Spain, but there are several banks that offer that option) and when the January security update came out, I un-rooted flashing everything.
After that, two of the bank apps worked, but one of them still refuses to do so.
In addition, I've been suffering from very, very, disappointing battery life: no more than 2 hours SOT and having to recharge twice a day.
So, I've decided to start from scratch, using the latest image that came out today.
But I have several questions and I'd be very grateful if somebody could answer them:
- First, and most important. I've been using Titanium Backup since the dawn of times in order to preserve my settings. I've a couple hundreds apps installed and making each of them behave as I like is a nightmare. Is there any rootless backup solution? I know Google backs up everything, but I don't know if every setting will be restored as I want.
- Second... actually there are no more questions, I can look for how-tos on how to flash the image, go back to default recovery...
Thanks in advance.
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Hello there!
I rooted my Nexus 6P, as I've done with every Android I've owned since my Nexus One, as soon as it arrived.
However, I really like NFC payments (we don't have Google Pay in Spain, but there are several banks that offer that option) and when the January security update came out, I un-rooted flashing everything.
After that, two of the bank apps worked, but one of them still refuses to do so.
In addition, I've been suffering from very, very, disappointing battery life: no more than 2 hours SOT and having to recharge twice a day.
So, I've decided to start from scratch, using the latest image that came out today.
But I have several questions and I'd be very grateful if somebody could answer them:
- First, and most important. I've been using Titanium Backup since the dawn of times in order to preserve my settings. I've a couple hundreds apps installed and making each of them behave as I like is a nightmare. Is there any rootless backup solution? I know Google backs up everything, but I don't know if every setting will be restored as I want.
- Second... actually there are no more questions, I can look for how-tos on how to flash the image, go back to default recovery...
Thanks in advance.
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In titanium backup you can have it export your backup to an update.zip that you can install via twrp. Having twrp as your recovery does not break Android Pay, as does root, xposed, etc..
edit: yes this applies to now, after google made changes to the server side that broke the root work-around
reycat said:
- First, and most important. I've been using Titanium Backup since the dawn of times in order to preserve my settings. I've a couple hundreds apps installed and making each of them behave as I like is a nightmare. Is there any rootless backup solution? I know Google backs up everything, but I don't know if every setting will be restored as I want.
- Second... actually there are no more questions, I can look for how-tos on how to flash the image, go back to default recovery...
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I've been restoring what I can from my Google account for three phones now and, while it's best it's been on a Nexus, you still won't get app settings and full data restored, so Titanium is needed for that. I've never tested the zip export the first reply suggested, but that's an interesting idea. As for getting back to a stock install, there's a very handy guide at http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928 and it covers all scenarios thoroughly. The command line is really the fastest and easiest, as the guide includes code you can just copy and paste. I don't think it's been updated regarding root, because systemless as a way to preserve AP was just stopped by Google.
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In titanium backup you can have it export your backup to an update.zip that you can install via twrp. Having twrp as your recovery does not break Android Pay, as does root, xposed, etc..
edit: yes this applies to now, after google made changes to the server side that broke the root work-around
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I have once tested the update option but what I got is only apps and not data. I'm pretty sure I chose app+data while doing the update zip.. Beware of such things happening.
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Thanks a lot for your answers.
I've been reading and it seems that, without root, TiBa's update.zip file won't restore app data.
There seems to be another app, Helium, that does a neat trick. You have to connect your phone to your PC, and Helium talks to the PC so that it uses adb to create or restore the backup. No root needed. I think I'm going to take my chances with that.
ultyrunner, that's the guide I was planning on using in order to go back to stock... thanks again, you saved me the search