[Q]Its time to root! but wait - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I want to root my MT4G, bored of the whole stock feel/litle hang/ and bloated wear
Before i root my phone i want to know what should i do first, all the app on the phone i don't give a crap about. so i don't really need to back anything up. my contact i need to save that pretty much it.

BeEazy10 said:
I want to root my MT4G, bored of the whole stock feel/litle hang/ and bloated wear
Before i root my phone i want to know what should i do first, all the app on the phone i don't give a crap about. so i don't really need to back anything up. my contact i need to save that pretty much it.
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first of all you need to back your phone up. You need to keep at least one Nandroid of your phone's ROM incase you have any problems in the future you have a point that you can go back to.
secondly when you wipe the phone, if you should load a new ROM onto the phone it will erase the contact list. However since it is syncing them to your Google account when you log in it will restore them automatically.
If you should want to keep everything you have and just swap ROMS. Root and install the recovery image to the phone, install Titanium Backup and back up the phone's apps and settings. The flash the new ROM (and GApps if needed) and use Titanium Backup to restore everything.

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Quick Question - Why should i do a Nandroid Backup

i have been trying to find this out - why i need to do one????
You don't have to ... up to you .
It is for peace of mind .
It things don't workout or you don't like what you did ...
You can put the phone back to what it was !
If you wish to fly with no parachute ...
Then jump ...
Please let us know how the landing goes
Does the nandroid only back up the software and settings -
If i just download the rom from HTC then that will put it back to the latest official rom wont it..
i was under the impression that a Original hero was only 1 rom away?
You don't need a nandroid backup at all. I use it all the time though.
You just asked a question that Dan330 had already answered in his previous post... yes it backs up basically everything. There are a few things that it doesn't back up but they aren't too significant (They are left out to prevent further problems).
If you downloaded a rom from HTC well, Duh. Of course it will put it back to the official rom. If it's rootable, then you can just restore a nandroid backup if you wanna go back to what you had before. Hopefully the HTC rom doesn't prevent you from rooting otherwise you won't be able to.
What the heck do you mean Original Hero was 1 rom away? Huh?
HTC Rom image will restore the rom.
A 'normal' data backup will store the data, ie drag from the SD card.
You can reinstall any marketplace apps from the marketplace.
The Google cloud will store calendar, contacts, mail, etc.
For the average user, nandroid is not necessary. But I understand the usefulness to a rom cooking enthusiast and the speed of a single backup. All the averages do not need to worry about nandroid though.
thank you cbailey
and sorry KAwAtA i was rushing to work - and talking crap at the same time...
I never even thought that HTC would try and stop you from rooting the phone....
just always thought that having a unbranded HTC ment i can install any rom at any time, and still install the latest HTC Rom if i wanted.
Very New to Rooting. so i need a few weeks to catch up.
Nandroid takes like a "photo" of your phone at the exact time you did it and will rstore everything exactly like it was at that time, e.g. rom, data, apps EVERYTHING.
you should always do one before flashing or removing anything on your phone that you should not "officially" be doing as that way if something goes wrong you can easily get back to your working rom.
Lennyuk said:
Nandroid takes like a "photo" of your phone at the exact time you did it and will rstore everything exactly like it was at that time, e.g. rom, data, apps EVERYTHING.
you should always do one before flashing or removing anything on your phone that you should not "officially" be doing as that way if something goes wrong you can easily get back to your working rom.
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Nandroid backup keeps installed apps aswel?... I was under the assumption that I needed to use Titanium or Mybackup Pro for that.
So just to clear up, if i dont mind losing contacts, sms and calender, but want to back up current ROM with apps and games, Nandroid is the one?...
ddotpatel said:
Nandroid backup keeps installed apps aswel?... I was under the assumption that I needed to use Titanium or Mybackup Pro for that.
So just to clear up, if i dont mind losing contacts, sms and calender, but want to back up current ROM with apps and games, Nandroid is the one?...
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Nandroid takes a complete image of your phone as it is, will restore it all exactly as it was at the time you backed it up.
if your looking to change roms then you need to use another app to backup your data and apps.
Aha,... Nice one Lenny!!
nandroid backup
having problems.. Im using the old ra for some reason it doesnt let me perform an nandroid back up... I tried teh newer ra same problm...any suggestions???

Back up whole phone.

i need a tutorial to back up my phone. I want to try a rom for few days but i will go back to my actual rom(cm7).
i dont want to start from beginning to configure phone ,emails and other settings after flashing rom.
adempozhari said:
i need a tutorial to back up my phone. I want to try a rom for few days but i will go back to my actual rom(cm7).
i dont want to start from beginning to configure phone ,emails and other settings after flashing rom.
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Just do a full backup in CWM. To be safe, use Titanium Backup as well, and maybe even super backup for contacts and SMS. However, unless the CWM backup is somehow corrupted which is rather unlikely, then you shouldn't need to worry about this.
Sent from my NexusHD2 using XDA
use this tutorial:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1480343

Multi-user support on N7 with ROMs

I have a 32GB N7 that I share with my girlfriend. I quickly learned that if I flash a new ROM, that whole other user's info is gone.
After trying to restore apps and info using both Titanium and ROM Toolbox, I couldn't get it to function like it was before.
I tried to restore to a backup I made prior to doing this and it won't get past the boot screen. I can safely assume that whole other user account is gone. The question is, how can I bring that from one ROM to another? Or how can I restore back to a previous ROM that had it setup?
engagedtosmile said:
I have a 32GB N7 that I share with my girlfriend. I quickly learned that if I flash a new ROM, that whole other user's info is gone.
After trying to restore apps and info using both Titanium and ROM Toolbox, I couldn't get it to function like it was before.
I tried to restore to a backup I made prior to doing this and it won't get past the boot screen. I can safely assume that whole other user account is gone. The question is, how can I bring that from one ROM to another? Or how can I restore back to a previous ROM that had it setup?
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I could be wrong about this as I am very new to serious mucking around in Android but...
Were ROMs you were using previously based on 4.1.x or older? I know that it is only a very recent version of Android that has proper multi-user support (4.2.2 has it for instance.. I'm not sure about 4.2.1 etc..) and thus now places a "0" folder in which the main user's data is saved, and then there will be "10', "11" etc.. for subsequent users. I'm not sure if your data is gone or not depending on your exact situation, but there are issues that can come from trying to get recovery/data from "pre-MultiUser" and "post-MultiUser" ROMs. Sometimes you may be able to manually move or stipulate where you want to recover from etc... others, it may be gone. There was a post about this from TeamWin and their TeamWinRecoveryProject that explains a bit more of it... http://teamw.in/DataMedia
Not sure if this is helpful, but it is worthwhile to look into regarding multi-user Android.
I am having same problem as OP. I share the N7 with my wife and when I flashed ROM I wasnt able to restore any of her data through Titanium, but it would let me restore everything that was on my main user account. Had to switch back to stock rom nandroid, and her data was still gone and mine was all intact. Now she won't let me put a custom rom on If anyone has any suggestions/fixes I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
ProbyWaN said:
I am having same problem as OP. I share the N7 with my wife and when I flashed ROM I wasnt able to restore any of her data through Titanium, but it would let me restore everything that was on my main user account. Had to switch back to stock rom nandroid, and her data was still gone and mine was all intact. Now she won't let me put a custom rom on If anyone has any suggestions/fixes I'd really appreciate it. Thanks!
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Probably had to have titanium on both accounts, then created the account after ROM flash and titanium restore on both accounts sperately
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How to back up Apps without root??

Am using Tibu to back up apps now, but am going to 'attempt' to flash a new ROM that's rooted and just in case it doesn't go as planned and I lose root, I'd like to know if there's a app or whatever that allows a unrooted phone the same or near same options and ability to back up apps that Tibu has. Any animal like that exist???
No, Titanium Backup is as powerful as it is because of root access. Without that, there is no way to get the same functionality, no matter what app you're using.
And if you're trying to flash a rooted ROM to a phone that's already higher than 4.4.4, you aren't going to find success...
aklyatne said:
No, Titanium Backup is as powerful as it is because of root access. Without that, there is no way to get the same functionality, no matter what app you're using.
And if you're trying to flash a rooted ROM to a phone that's already higher than 4.4.4, you aren't going to find success...
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I'm on rooted 4.3. going to rooted Jasmine 6
Sporttster said:
Am using Tibu to back up apps now, but am going to 'attempt' to flash a new ROM that's rooted and just in case it doesn't go as planned and I lose root, I'd like to know if there's a app or whatever that allows a unrooted phone the same or near same options and ability to back up apps that Tibu has. Any animal like that exist???
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This shouldn't even be a concern.. You're missing the most important step in flashing a new ROM. It should be in every single ROM thread, for any device here on XDA, its usually the first on the list of instructions...?
MAKE A BACKUP OF YOUR CURRENT ROM!!
You do this in your custom recovery, TWRP, CWM or Phils...
This restores your system exactly as it was, when you made the backup, your call logs, messages, apps, app datas, even app caches, if you select it when making the backup..
Backups are one of the main purposes for a custom recovery, if you screw up, you can always go back..
Were you not aware of this till now??
Unless you're intention is to stick with the ROM, that's not rooted.. Not sure why you'd want that, but everyone's different, so I'd recommend using Helium instead of TB, root isn't required with that app..
I'm not on a developer edition. It does not have a unlocked bootloader, so not sure I can 'go back' if the thing doesn't work right. Maybe I'm wrong. But I've heard once you flash past 4.4 there is no going back to root and I'm going to 6. In the past on unlocked units I've had no problems going back. But locked is another animal...it's rooted but not unlocked...

Best software for complete backup in anticipation wipe / restore?

I understand that my stock Verizon HTC 10 will probably wind up having to be wiped if it is eventually going to gain root and / or S-off through Sunshine, if and when Sunshine supports the Verizon version of this phone. That being said, I am wondering what software others here use to do a complete backup / restore on an un-rooted phone. I've been searching, and so far have not found any options that seem to be able to make the phone "exactly as it had been." Is this not possible? I really don't want to have to go through loads of settings, etc. again. I'd like to be able to create some sort of backup just before doing whatever I need to do to root / S-off, and then once the rooting / S-off is done, do some sort of restore, and have my phone back in essentially the same state as it had bee, but with root and / or S-off.
Is this not possible?
Thanks!
I don't think so. I've been thinking the same thing and the only options that can back up all the apps, data, and settings require root. It's really quite frustrating.
A few minutes after I started this thread jcase posted the tweet indicating that they now have unlock and s-off for the Verizon HTC 10. I'm pretty sure we're going to have to wipe our phones in the process, though. I hope there's some solution better than starting from scratch.
Luckily I have a TB backup from my old phone and I've only had the 10 for a few days. I think I might just go ahead and root and then restore from that.
goodtimes50 said:
Luckily I have a TB backup from my old phone and I've only had the 10 for a few days. I think I might just go ahead and root and then restore from that.
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I too have a couple of TB backups from my V10, however, all the apps were still Lollipop, so as big of a pain in the ass as it will be, I'm going to do a clean wipe when and start from scratch and make a base backup just for this phone.
The one thing I think I miss from the LG V10, is that it had a backup program built in that would back up your apps and stuff to the external SD. That was very bloody handy.
ufkal said:
The one thing I think I miss from the LG V10, is that it had a backup program built in that would back up your apps and stuff to the external SD. That was very bloody handy.
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What was the app called? I thought HTC had put most of their stock apps on the Play store?
goodtimes50 said:
What was the app called? I thought HTC had put most of their stock apps on the Play store?
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I think it was LG Backup. It did basically what TB did and backed up all your current applications so you could restore them from wipe. I used it some. Fairly decent. IMO. Save some time
TB is the best but requires root. I am not sure of any backup apps that backup app data. I would take screen shots of your home screen and even the app drawer just to make sure you have everything. Once you gain TWRP, you can do an absolute complete backup.
Also, HTC used you have a decent backup up. Better than Google's backup imo. But it was discontinued for MM.

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