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2.3.5 Kernel BATTERY NOT GOOD

I've installed the 2.3.5 kernel recently because people were saying it was great on the battery but i'm getting pretty tired of this...
Out of nowhere sometimes like this morning i left the phone screen off since 7.00 am full charge and i checked it now at 11.40 and the battery was at 79%... It has been awake the whole morning. I looked at OS monitor and it might be calendar trying to sync all this time without having a 3g connection or wi-fi... why would it keep the phone awake and try so many times to sync if i'm not under 3g coverage?
I used to get 3 days with 2.3.4. I'm going to revert back. Aweful update...

thanks for telling us

I thought it was calendare but apparently it isn't.
Only after clearing RAM has it stopped staying awake even with screen off.
No idea what this is all about.
How do i discover what's keeping my sgs2 awake?

Tell me about it!
I flashed XWKI8 and I have been having all sort of issues with it. My phone was terribly slow and very laggy. It was getting seriously heated up around camera.
And above all, I took it off the charger (100% battery) 7:30 in the morning and now by 3:30 PM I got no juice left in the battery! It just died upon me.
I think I will flash it back to our trusty KF3 update.
Does anyone know if I can just download it from Intratech's thread and update with ODIN, or do I need to get some kinda wipe package from somewhere?

i'm quite positive you just need to reflash the pda in odin

You have no idea what you are talking about. You start that the kernel is not good. Then you blame the calendar for keeping your phone awake. Now tell me how is that related?
You can't say that something is bad based on one experience.

If you read the replies you would've seen that calendar is not the problem...
And before the update the phone was NEVER awake if the screen wasn't on... So YES i think it's a kernel problem

Nonsense !
2.3.5 battery just fine ... better than 2.3.4
Gives me a full day when used intensive (3-4 hours of surf, mail, talk)
Gives me 2 days if used moderately
About ½% per hour standby

The real question now is... how can i see what is keeping my phone awake???

Riqz said:
The real question now is... how can i see what is keeping my phone awake???
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Search for 'Better Battery Stats' in XDA.
Besides, I don't think it's huge improvement in battery life in 2.3.5 than 2.3.3. I am getting almost same battery backup in recent KI3 which I was getting in previous 2.3.3 KF3. There are plenty of ROM's but I doubt there is any difference between then other than they are dedicated for different regions. It's basically a freaking thing to flash new ROM's continuously.

look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290020
and check if it isn't the same thing that's bothering you. when you look at the built in battery stats, do you have a very high usage percentage of "Android OS"?

dude I am usin XXKI8 (2.3.5) with chain-fire root kernel KI8..
I have seen drastic improvement on battery life over KF3.. only 2% overnight drain on standby (with data connection off of course). smoother animations.. near zero lag while locking, unlocking, smoother browser.. the only thing that bothers me is occasional lag while opening gallery.. rest is superb..

Seylox said:
look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290020
and check if it isn't the same thing that's bothering you. when you look at the built in battery stats, do you have a very high usage percentage of "Android OS"?
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AOS Issue doesnt seem to be affecting me i think:
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HOLY SHOIT!!!
I think i've found the culprit:
How do i get rid of this? I thought facebook android app was decent!!! It wasn't 2.3.5 at all!!!

Riqz said:
HOLY SHOIT!!!
I think i've found the culprit:
How do i get rid of this? I thought facebook android app was decent!!! It wasn't 2.3.5 at all!!!
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I had that also, it's a ***** in Facebook app. You don't need to remove facebook app, just go to facebook chat and log off. I wonder why it's enable by default from facebook if they know this thing is going to drain battery like hell.

Riqz said:
HOLY SHOIT!!!
I think i've found the culprit:
How do i get rid of this? I thought facebook android app was decent!!! It wasn't 2.3.5 at all!!!
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How?
Very simple : just delete it.
Your battery will thank you soon, and you will certainly stop pulling your hair out.
Anyway, you always can use mobile FB version which is actually pretty good.
Cheers

No need to delete, just use the app and sign out of chat, poor design on part of facebook, but like many others using android, no investigation, just blame the update or the phone......

nah. i did not know how to see what processes were keeping my phone awake. now that i know i'm a happy new man. And i'd also like to change the title of this thread!

Possibly the worse phone ever

So I got this machine and thought it was the bee's testes, turns out it isnt
I cant rely on it to re-boot without loosing the contents of the internal memory. last night for seemingly no reason it shut it self down and when I discoverd this I re-booted it, and it took and age to restart, then when I checked the internal memory pfffft gone, everything, all gone.
What a crock of cack, this happens every 3rd or 4th time it reboots, looses the entire lot.
Phone is stock, un-rooted, has had a factory reset and reformat of the internal AND external memory.
Frankly this is the last time I buy a Motorola phone, going back to my trusty Hero for the remained of this contract (22 months) that thing has had salt water baths, drops bangs, knocks, rooting and tooting and still wont die, Atrix, cant even take a reboot with out dieing.
/rant off

Get it replaced
I've never heard of that happening
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deech said:
So I got this machine and thought it was the bee's testes, turns out it isnt
I cant rely on it to re-boot without loosing the contents of the internal memory. last night for seemingly no reason it shut it self down and when I discoverd this I re-booted it, and it took and age to restart, then when I checked the internal memory pfffft gone, everything, all gone.
What a crock of cack, this happens every 3rd or 4th time it reboots, looses the entire lot.
Phone is stock, un-rooted, has had a factory reset and reformat of the internal AND external memory.
Frankly this is the last time I buy a Motorola phone, going back to my trusty Hero for the remained of this contract (22 months) that thing has had salt water baths, drops bangs, knocks, rooting and tooting and still wont die, Atrix, cant even take a reboot with out dieing.
/rant off
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Seriously dude change your phone .. never heard any thing like this in the forums. Maybe faulty hardware. Myself using AT&T version of ATRIX.
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Yeah I thought of that, Orange are being difficult though (now why arent I surprised?)
I am wondering if using gingerbreak all those months ago had anything to do with it, but since then I've had the OTA update from orange (the pre-pre update they pushed months ago) that wiped out the root / gingerbreak.
The worse of it is that I never know when it'll happen, seems to be random, not every reboot causes the internal wipe, so damn frustrating, think I may have a look at CM7 as it left Beta last night I wasnt going to hack about with this phone but seems I am being pushed that way
Oh well if anyone has any ideas it'd be appreciated

It's probably just the phone itself. I've never had or heard of any Atrix owner having those problems before. It is technology so there's going to be faulty devices somewhere along the line, unfortunately.

In an unexpected turn of events, a second call to CS Dept, has decided that indeed the phone is Terminally Ill so new HS coming tomorrow, so factory reset tonight to clear everything off
But it is an odd one, random reboots and internal memory wipes...
Ach well

deech said:
In an unexpected turn of events, a second call to CS Dept, has decided that indeed the phone is Terminally Ill so new HS coming tomorrow, so factory reset tonight to clear everything off
But it is an odd one, random reboots and internal memory wipes...
Ach well
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Glad to hear you went the proper route of having it warrantied other than trying to polish a turd. If I run into trouble CS reps I always wait a day and call back. A new person on the other end usually helps the situation a lot.
I had run into a similar issue here at my work with a device. You can troubleshoot it all you want but on mobiles it either works or doesnt.
At the end of the day, save yourself some headache and call it in for RMA.

This happens to me sometimes. Not hardware fault. Motorola can't make a phone.

ONE WORD BRO, WARRANTY, 800-801-1101 for att

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Possibly the worst thread ever.

i personally own a atrix on orange and i have never experienced any of these issues and ive rooted, unlocked bootloader and put a beta version of cm7 on it, so i think that you should contact motorola directy and deal with them through that

Can we please lock this thread up?...
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OSNPA said:
Possibly the worst thread ever.
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I'd like to buy you a beer sir.
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Battery Life Issue (Is this normal battery life)

I've been noticing my battery has been draining a lot lately, and the majority is going to Android System. I did a search and found another post about this with no answers. I'm not getting much more than 12 hours on a daily basis, and I hardly use my phone. I'm including a screen shot of the battery usage. Is this a normal usage amount? I remember this phone being better on battery than this.
What are you guys getting for typical usage?
Anyone have any suggestions?
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philc21 said:
I've been noticing my battery has been draining a lot lately, and the majority is going to Android System. I did a search and found another post about this with no answers. I'm not getting much more than 12 hours on a daily basis, and I hardly use my phone. I'm including a screen shot of the battery usage. Is this a normal usage amount? I remember this phone being better on battery than this.
What are you guys getting for typical usage?
Anyone have any suggestions?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q4axktwglfqg4ac/Screenshot_2014-10-23-21-11-07.png?dl=0
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as of yesterday, I'm seeing the same problem. Didn't have short battery life before that but several apps updated yesterday morning and now I have something like 50% on Android System and an unusually high "Stay Awake" - we're talking something like 10 hours when I wasn't using the phone for anything in particular - certainly not 10 hours worth!
So, I'm wondering how we tell what is keeping a phone awake?

usually we need more info such as what rom your using and when it started to happen..
second post might be one of the apps thats causing it so id backtrack them n see if u can find the culprit
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also, better battery stats on xda is your friend.. android system can be a ton of different things
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I had big time battery issues when I was running NI2, and similar to what you were seeing Android System and Kernel, my battery would be nearly drained after about 10 to 12 hours. I rolled back to NE9 and my battery is back to being great I am usually at about 60% after about 10 hours. For what it's worth apps and programs were the same between both builds. Not sure this is much help just figured I'd share my experiences and what worked for me.

scadilla said:
I had big time battery issues when I was running NI2, and similar to what you were seeing Android System and Kernel, my battery would be nearly drained after about 10 to 12 hours. I rolled back to NE9 and my battery is back to being great I am usually at about 60% after about 10 hours. For what it's worth apps and programs were the same between both builds. Not sure this is much help just figured I'd share my experiences and what worked for me.
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This was the solution I feared. I'm having massive battery drain on NI2 as well. Unfortunately, won't we lose "HD Voice" or VOLTE if we roll back to NE9? Not a deal breaker I guess.
It's really too bad Samsung/Verizon broke the phone with an update. This is seemingly pretty common now. Hope another small update gets released soon. I'm on international travel starting Friday and having a phone dead by 3pm doesn't sit very well with me.
-Collin-

CollinFX45 said:
This was the solution I feared. I'm having massive battery drain on NI2 as well. Unfortunately, won't we lose "HD Voice" or VOLTE if we roll back to NE9? Not a deal breaker I guess.
It's really too bad Samsung/Verizon broke the phone with an update. This is seemingly pretty common now. Hope another small update gets released soon. I'm on international travel starting Friday and having a phone dead by 3pm doesn't sit very well with me.
-Collin-
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Yes, you will lose HD Voice / VOLTE unfortunately. That was a sacrifice I had to take I couldn't deal with my phone being dead by 5:00pm.

agreed. Yesterday was a complete joke. By 2pm with light use, I was down to 21%. Dead by 3:30.
I hate that I have to flash my phone back to a prior version because Verizon/Samsung broke it.

CollinFX45 said:
agreed. Yesterday was a complete joke. By 2pm with light use, I was down to 21%. Dead by 3:30.
I hate that I have to flash my phone back to a prior version because Verizon/Samsung broke it.
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it is what it is.. there are ni2 roms with great battery.. few have reported battery drains but not me.. ive tried a few ni2 roms and not had a battery drain since before ni2
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CollinFX45 said:
agreed. Yesterday was a complete joke. By 2pm with light use, I was down to 21%. Dead by 3:30.
I hate that I have to flash my phone back to a prior version because Verizon/Samsung broke it.
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Wake lock detector and greenify are your friends...

My about phone.

so, after posting the second post in this thread I'm happy to post that my battery consumption returned to normal by the next day. I don't know what was going on but I'm still on NI2 and regular battery consumption - what I've been used to seeing on the phone all along.
that said, it's great to know about some of the apps that are available for better tracking/info about wake-locks and battery use.

Serious battery life problem after update yesterday

So guys, I love my S7 edge, as I'm sure a lot of you do, but after the update yesterday my battery life has taken a serious dive in the wrong direction.
Turns out its the Bluetooth, except I haven't used Bluetooth all day, I've been at work, where I only look at it a few times a day.
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Turn Bluetooth off?

Make sure Nearby Device scanning is turned off, and make sure Bluetooth scanning is off under Location > Improve Accuracy.

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Turn Bluetooth off?
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Funny thing is, bluetooth was never on.

Damn if restarting or clearing system cache in recovery mode doesn't work you might need to do a factory restore

I was thinking "Oh great, yet another dude complaining about losing 5 minutes of his 8 hour SOT", but I'll admit this is a weird issue, especially if you haven't enabled or used bluetooth at all. Have you checked with a different logger, like Gsam?

Jonnyn93 said:
So guys, I love my S7 edge, as I'm sure a lot of you do, but after the update yesterday my battery life has taken a serious dive in the wrong direction.
Turns out its the Bluetooth, except I haven't used Bluetooth all day, I've been at work, where I only look at it a few times a day.
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WHICH UPDATE are you talking about? Be specific...
NO problems here:

J.Biden said:
I was thinking "Oh great, yet another dude complaining about losing 5 minutes of his 8 hour SOT", but I'll admit this is a weird issue, especially if you haven't enabled or used bluetooth at all. Have you checked with a different logger, like Gsam?
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Yeah I'm not the type to moan about poor SOT. The battery life on this phone is among the best. But yesterday was just terrible. Seems today it is doing better. Only time will tell.

I also have battery life issues after the APD1 update. Whereas before the phone had no problem lasting 48 hours, now it struggles to last 36 hours (Exynos here). I hate these stupid updates: notification LED is dimmer under most light conditions, battery life now sucks...thanks, Samsung !

Cst79 said:
I also have battery life issues after the APD1 update. Whereas before the phone had no problem lasting 48 hours, now it struggles to last 36 hours (Exynos here). I hate these stupid updates: notification LED is dimmer under most light conditions, battery life now sucks...thanks, Samsung !
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I know you are going to hate this, but do a factory reset. Pain in the ass I know, but your battery will be back. Happened to me on the last update. I was relieved after the reset.

backup phone and reset phone system.

horizontal168 said:
backup phone and reset phone system.
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How do you backup your apps AND app data without root?
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Is your phone at&t?

Here's a thought, I also had pretty "bad" battery life after the previous update, and then it got back to normal after I re-enabled the stock Samsung apps that I had previously disabled, so enable them again and let them be for a day or two and see if you notice any changes. This doesn't apply to your bluetooth issue, but I just thought of this now.

jark99 said:
How do you backup your apps AND app data without root?
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if you have app backup set up through google it should be automagic

Im in the same boat... but i did a factory reset when i installed echo rom. My battery is lucky to get 9hrs with 4hrs screen time. Befoee the update i was getting 14hrs battery with 8.5hrs screen time. Its the 3rd day today so ill see how it goes cos i know it can take a while for thr phone to settle
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mwatson said:
I know you are going to hate this, but do a factory reset. Pain in the ass I know, but your battery will be back. Happened to me on the last update. I was relieved after the reset.
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Cool. Thanks for the tip. I've experienced exactly the same thing with this update - was getting about 48hrs with just shy of 6 hours screen on time. I have a long weekend coming up, so I'll see how it goes and then restore if I think it needs it.
I typically use Ultra Power Saving Mode overnight. It lost 13% last night in about 9hrs. I would have been disappointed with anything more than about 2%. So hopefully a reset will fix this because I've been loving the battery mode up to this point!!!!

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if you have app backup set up through google it should be automagic
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that backs up the apps, but not the "app data" which is a internally saved to the phone itself.

Basically my "Android System" usage went from 2-3% to 17-19% after this update. On the Exynos. So now the Exynos is now as bad as the SD820 at battery life.
I will reset my phone to factory right now, if this does not solve it (and I highly doubt it) then my only option is to flash the old APC8 firmware (it's possible to do it without rooting, right ?)

jark99 said:
How do you backup your apps AND app data without root?
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Use Samsung's own Smart Switch Windows application to take the backup.. It backs up everything, your Msgs, Contacts, Documents, Images/Videos, Apps and their settings..

Att note 7 update on 1st day 8/18/16

I hit the update on it for shts and giggle and it was one for 138megabits, lol wonder what it was for, but i love the battery life wow.

Yeah found it weird, mine is updating as we speak.. I just got the phone a few hours ago..

hou32guy said:
I hit the update on it for shts and giggle and it was one for 138megabits, lol wonder what it was for, but i love the battery life wow.
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I'm not sure what's going on with my battery life but it's less than five hours... I've had since noon today and it's already been charged once and taken off around 9pm tonight and I'm already down to 55%. Any ideas? I've hardly done anything other than texting and web browsing, all on wifi. I'm also not getting detailed battery stats. See below... Also, how the hell do you take a screenshot other than using screen write? Oh and i never got an update...
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I normally hit the left button and close all apps, get ram back up,

Screen shot is power button and home button at the same time momentarily

I keep my bright down to about a 1/4

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Screen shot is power button and home button at the same time momentarily
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Yeah that's what it's always been on other phones, but my phone will not do it.
Edit: Guess i want holding it long enough. I just switched back to Android from iOS after 3 years. On the iPhone is instant lol.
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did the device reboot into a recovery to install the update? curious is someone dropped the ball and left a open bootloader on the released device OR its just the monthly security patch, prob the latter...
further investigations...it did include a new bootloader. i would hold of on installing this if you want root. you never know

Lol yeah not rooting, leaving it alone

I did not install the update. I just love that they say that ATT wants to install an update and give no more information as to what or why. After my upgrade experience I'm not real trusting and was hoping someone could report what it is. Want to compare?

Sadly, it's probably a bunch of good fixes bundled in with some unwanted bloatware and security "enhancements". Lol
BUT... that's just pure conjecture on my part, as I watch the N7 forums and live vicariously through you all. I'm still happy with my rooted Note 3, can't justify the upgrade cost, can't live without my IR blaster, and so will wait.

So, anyone know whats in the update(is it just the Android Aug security update)? Any chance it really would affect root? For me, the only reason to not root is Samsung Pay and since it doesn't support either one of my cards, not worried about that "feature".

Phredeee said:
I did not install the update. I just love that they say that ATT wants to install an update and give no more information as to what or why. After my upgrade experience I'm not real trusting and was hoping someone could report what it is. Want to compare?
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It does contain a new Bootloader, and the update was prob forced upon you. Yesterday my device buzzed in my pocket, heard the ATT ding ding dong sound. Pulled my Note out and it was optimizing apps (about 50 of them). Seems they forced the update to my Note, even though I had clicked "install later" many times through-out the day. bastards!

I believe it's just a security update.

I did not get update. Do you have to have a att simcard in phone to see update.

cordell12 said:
It does contain a new Bootloader, and the update was prob forced upon you. Yesterday my device buzzed in my pocket, heard the ATT ding ding dong sound. Pulled my Note out and it was optimizing apps (about 50 of them). Seems they forced the update to my Note, even though I had clicked "install later" many times through-out the day. bastards!
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The only way to keep from downloading an update is to have Wi-Fi turned off or disable the update totally with package disabler pro. The phone automatically downloads any update if you are connected to Wi-Fi and will install it even if you hit install later. The phone does the install after the third time you decline it. All of my Samsung phones have done this.

cordell12 said:
It does contain a new Bootloader, and the update was prob forced upon you. Yesterday my device buzzed in my pocket, heard the ATT ding ding dong sound. Pulled my Note out and it was optimizing apps (about 50 of them). Seems they forced the update to my Note, even though I had clicked "install later" many times through-out the day. bastards!
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Okay i sh*t you not, I read this on lunch and said in my head there's no way it forced itself, or maybe it's an option to disable under developer settings. Got off lunch and felt my phone vibrate because it was turning back on. Pulled my phone out and saw that it was optimizing apps and I'm like like wtfffffff out really forced itself. I wasnt on Wi-Fi or anything and my phones battery was at like 30% so i honestly couldn't believe it did the update as such a low battery without asking, crazy. ?
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Just got the update an hour ago. Would like to know what it is . Just hope it improves the phone.

i did the update. battery improvement definitely. stability of apps also

timmyhawk1983 said:
i did the update. battery improvement definitely. stability of apps also
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i did the update. battery improvement definitely. stability of apps also
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The device is brand new. You can expect battery improvements over the next few days, no matter what you do. It takes 3-7 days of charging and use for the battery to reach maximum efficiency.