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What operating system do you use???

basically i want to know if you use windows, mac, or linux, and why you use that OS, and also how many people have yet to root their phone because it seems too complicated. i am currently working on a script runable in linux and soon to be runable in windows that will automatically root your phone for you. all you will need to do is run the command, hit enter a few times, set up a setting in anycut(which will be installed on the phone after flashing to RC29) and walk away, or you can sit there and stare at it if you want.
but since i know there are those three main OS's i wanted to know if i should continue trying to get this automated and running in all three operating systems.

I use all of the above so I can't vote. And technically if you own an Android phone you're using Linux.

Ron Overdrive said:
I use all of the above so I can't vote. And technically if you own an Android phone you're using Linux.
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Well which do you use to do work on your phone? And I know by using android you are using linux which is why I made sure to say "on your main computer" I use linux to work on my phones, but I can use windows on my friend's comp

tubaking182 said:
Well which do you use to do work on your phone? And I know by using android you are using linux which is why I made sure to say "on your main computer" I use linux to work on my phones, but I can use windows on my friend's comp
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Lately I've been using Windows 7 since I'm giving it a go to see if I want to return to Windows or not after the Vista blunder.
Honestly though I'd make an OS independent way of doing it to simplify it. Like make it in Java, Python, or in Mono so it'll be one app for all 3 OS's.

Why did you say "M$" in the poll option and not "Microsoft". I thought bagging Microsoft for no good reason stopped being cool 5 years ago?

because up until recently if you were to try and get ahold of a copy of XP an older and "obsolete" operating system they charged nuch more than they charged you for a copy of the crappy vista that the deemed perfect. the company will do anything to make more money than they chould be making, they overcharge for everything and quite frankly i would rag on mac too but it has been a long time since i touched a mac. these days i don't pay for a thing when it comes to my computer software, if there is not a free alternative then i don't need the program. software companies charge an arm and a leg for their software and then they whine and cry that people are pirating it. take a look at photoshop. over 60% of the copies of photoshop that are installed on computers nationwide are pirated copies, and is it any wonder? adobe wants to charge nearly $900 for a piece of intangible software, i'll stick with gimp

I've got an old iMac I still use (OS 9.2), and my main pc is quad boot (XP Pro, Vista, 7, and Unbuntu), and my netbook is dual boot from the hard drive (XP Pro & Vista) and I've got persistant install of Ubuntu on an sdhc card, and a live install of GOS on an sd card.
So I think there should be an option of "All of the above".

Linux here as a desktop OS since the times of Slackware 9.1
Windows XP for commercial development (C# )
I am giving Windows 7 a try too

Work: WinXP
Home: Win7 Beta
Laptop: Currently XP, switching to Ubuntu or some other linux flavor this weekend.
I primarily use Windows because i'm more of a PC Gamer than console. I'd most likely switch completely to Linux >IF< the game industry went full throtle into Linux development. Not talking about a Windows Emulator on linux to run windows games, but coding games natively for Linux.
I think this is a great Idea. I've rooted my phone to get themes and auto-rotation and the updated APN Radio stuff on it. Showed it to some of my friends and they want to root as well, but want me to do it for them cause they are nervous. I tried explaining that if they just follow the step by step instructions, they will be fine. So this will certainly make things easier for them.
tubaking182 said:
basically i want to know if you use windows, mac, or linux, and why you use that OS, and also how many people have yet to root their phone because it seems too complicated. i am currently working on a script runable in linux and soon to be runable in windows that will automatically root your phone for you. all you will need to do is run the command, hit enter a few times, set up a setting in anycut(which will be installed on the phone after flashing to RC29) and walk away, or you can sit there and stare at it if you want.
but since i know there are those three main OS's i wanted to know if i should continue trying to get this automated and running in all three operating systems.
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ASUS G1Sn: Dual Boot Vista and Ubuntu, Vista will be replaced when win7 is final
Asus eeepc 1000H dual boot: Windows 7 Beta 1 and XP
I use Vista mainly because Its not that bad despite some of its problems. A few registry tweaks, scratch that a LOT of registry tweaks go a long way Looking forward to windows 7! I like the freedom with Linux but I don't have the time needed to tinker with it and its a hassle. Hackintosh was alright when I used it, mac os is meh. mac hardware is sexy though. Gimme hardware and keep your OS apple ^^

windows vista on my laptop and windows XP at work.
i rooted to JF 1.42 RC33 but i fumbled my way through...i'm sure anyone with equal or lower "skillz" as me would greatly appreciate the automated root.
thx!

hellbringer626 said:
Hackintosh was alright when I used it, mac os is meh. mac hardware is sexy though. Gimme hardware and keep your OS apple ^^
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Heh, I'm the opposite. Mac hardware only looks good, but underneath its poorly put together and the designs are flawed. I can build a decent looking hackintosh that looks just as good. The OS, however, has a lot of potential assuming Apple allows people to customize their experience without hacking the OS to install a theme and stops locking it into their crappy hardware setup. After all its a heavily commercialized BSD hybrid that makes some things much easier.
MoridinBG said:
Linux here as a desktop OS since the times of Slackware 9.1
Windows XP for commercial development (C# )
I am giving Windows 7 a try too
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I take it what you're doing doesn't work with MONO (it supports up to C# 3.0)? I know people who do C# development work on Mac OS X thanks to MONO.

It cannot be categorized into one vote I need two.
Yeah I know it sucks but I have to have at least one machine with Windows because I am a gamer and until the day that Linux has the same level of 3D application/Gaming support I will always need windows.
Though for everything else I'm either testing the Kubuntu 9.04 Alpha or using Kubuntu 8.10.

I use Mac and the only thing I haven't been able to do with it is format my sd to EXT2, so I end up using my Vista In Parallels. Now, Does anybody knows why in my Mac shows ext2 as one of the format options but doesn't seems to work right

My Labtop Has Windows Vista and Ubuntu
And My Two Desktops Have Windows XP

Dual booted with Vista Ultimate x64 and Ubuntu.

Dual boot with Fedora 10 & Windows XP sp3
Windows xp gets used once in a blue moon to play a game. Most of the main windows applications I used can be run in wine these days. Everything else is vastly easier to do in linux.

I run XP at work, and Tri-boot of Vista/Win7/Ubuntu at home.
I would have thought that if you can't understand how to root your G1...you really don't need to root it in the first place??

I run almost exclusively Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04 on at least 5 machines (6 if you count the ps3 in). I run no dual boot but I have XP post SP3 in Virtualbox on my main machine for my bank but I will solve that later as the bank officially now supports Ubuntu but my current certificate is incompatible.
I run Ubuntu because I don't get any problem with viruses, trojans, malware, spyware and clogged registry. I also run Ubuntu because almost everything can be done from the command line. You can mod almost all parts of Ubuntu including Linux. It's free and I can make the modifications I want to the source code. Some applications and drivers are proprietary which can be a pain but that's how the current state is and usually you don't need so many proprietary parts. There are many free apps available via apt-get, both using official repository, ppa:s and external repositories. I find Linux distributions more modular than Windows. There's less problem with unsupported old hardware like in newer editions of Windows. Canon and HP skipped Vista support for both our scanner and printer. Only the basic features of the printer worked. In Ubuntu I get a lot more information from the printer with CUPS than with Vista and the inbuilt driver. The scanner was impossible to make work on x64 Vista. x86 worked but it was an ugly driver hack with the old xp driver and not optimal. Most hardware drivers for old components are built in into Linux.
I've tried Vista many times and it has not met my expectations of a good OS. My latest TX tablet crashed while I finished the configuration and went to burn the recovery discs. I tested ram and the harddrive and there were no problems. After running Ubuntu on that machine for quite a while I consider it stable. My previous TX computer had similar problems. The lack of drivers for old hardware, the lack of a good CLI and the need for all the protection makes me look elsewhere. Windows 7 is looking a lot better but It's far from what I want to use. I tried powershell and I just wanted to get out of there quickly. I've used MAC OSX including 10.1, 10.4 and 10.5 and I like it a lot. Unfortunately as you may have understood OSX is exclusively made for MAC:s. It runs on many x86/x86_64 pc:s but often there is always something not running properly.
If Apple would make OSX available for PC:s with BIOS (which they most likely won't because then they wouldn't sell as many MAC:s) I would use it. The Ubuntu GUI is good if you change the theme but Aqua on OSX is much better.
I think we are heading more towards cloud based OS:S / webOS:s /online-OS:s.
Sorry for the rant. I just felt like writing.

Debian linux testing version..

BF3 Working fine in Win8

In case anyone else is wondering.
Origin and Battlefield 3 are both working just fine in windows 8.

Is it more or less fps in w8?

I would say it's about the same. Maybe a little better, but I was on Vista. I get a good frame rate either way at 1920x1080

There should really be no reason that games and most other software should not work in windows 8 as it really is basically just windows 7 with a new start screen UI added over the top. The only thing that could cause errors is potentially drivers which might have to be optimised for windows 8. Windows 8 so far does a good job with legacy applications and the new start screen in terms of interference. Other the that good to know that it works

leftspeaker2000 said:
There should really be no reason that games and most other software should not work in windows 8 as it really is basically just windows 7 with a new start screen UI added over the top. The only thing that could cause errors is potentially drivers which might have to be optimised for windows 8. Windows 8 so far does a good job with legacy applications and the new start screen in terms of interference. Other the that good to know that it works
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it is wrong to say it like that,but i may know what you were trying to say,but the main part of the OS is the metro start menu. desktop is treated as an application to run desktop software,not the other way around. thats like saying the ps2 is just a ps1 with the ps2 added on.

leftspeaker2000 said:
There should really be no reason that games and most other software should not work in windows 8 as it really is basically just windows 7 with a new start screen UI added over the top. The only thing that could cause errors is potentially drivers which might have to be optimised for windows 8. Windows 8 so far does a good job with legacy applications and the new start screen in terms of interference. Other the that good to know that it works
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You would be surprised how different the two are. For instance have you tried to install and use MS Office 2010 on Win8? You would think it would work, it doesn't...

From what I have read 99% of things that work on windows 7 will work on windows 7 although some will require modification to play nice. Office 2010 works fine with windows 8 as I have tested it.
The analogy that ps2 is just a ps1 with a ps2 attached is actually correct. The ps2 did have a full functional ps1 housed within the console. Windows 8 is built on the windows 7 kernel with Win RT added in at least from what i know, so if windows 8 was using a different kernel and then emulating windows 7 like compatibility mode does for windows 7 with regards to windows xp then you would be correct. I could be wrong though.

For what i've experienced, win8 run every single program i've installed (and they are many). It's my main OS used daily since the release. If one ignore the "metro app" it looks like win7, but a way better in performance.
Anyway there's a thread regarding games compatibility/performance!

Windows RT wont succeed [WP8 in disguise]

Windows RT[WP8 in disguise] wont succeed
Microsoft remove the desktop from it intentionally
so it wont compete the PC market and Intel ofc
so what we getting is just Windows Phone 8 OS Like
ARM is strong enuf to replace PC
many interests to keep ARM in this state
i hate close code always block the future
Microsoft thinks we are wanting her "marketing" os
no, we want windows!

Microsoft is moving towards a more power friendly and more manageable application model in WinRT (the framework). Of course they don't want their tablets to run non-power-optimized code and therefore only support Metro-Style-Applications.
Given that even newest Quad-Core-ARM chips only compete in computational power with Intel's slow Atom CPUs I highly doubt that most of the interesting Desktop applications would work properly.
So even if I'm doubtful if Windows RT will succeed in the tablet market (depends on which devices will be there and how quickly developers create good Metro Apps) I don't think that it will fail because they almost removed the Desktop.

i mean there no reason to choose windows RT before android or iOS
cos Windows RT is Stripped version of Windows 8
and doesn't give us something more then WP7
what the point if there keyboard and mouse for tablet with windows RT

Thread title sounds like a caveman.

agreed have suggestion ?

Proz00 said:
what the point if there keyboard and mouse for tablet with windows RT
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Office perhaps? Which is actually onboard with every Windows RT device.
Also nothing technically speaks against mouse/pen optimized Apps on basis of Metro Apps (Image editing, etc. - the mouse is simply more exact than a finger).
Aside from that a keyboard makes quite a lot of sense whenever you're typing a longer text (E-Mail, forum post, etc.)
As for a topic title: "Windows RT won't succeed" would be the closest to the current.

Office application in metro style ?
no way
thx for fix

Proz00 said:
Office application in metro style ?
no way
thx for fix
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In Windows RT on ARM tablets will be a complete Office 2013 with Word, Excel, Powerpoint and OneNote.
They are not built as a Metro Style App (fullscreen metro app)! They are just the same as on x86 and are running in desktop mode. So every Windows RT tablet will have the same office experience as a tablet or notebook running Windows 8 (Pro).

Proz00 said:
Microsoft remove the desktop from it intentionally
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Nope, they don't.
Win32 applications won't run because... they can't.
But the traditional desktop and files explorer will be there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQe11XKkJlY#t=1m55s

jerome snail said:
Nope, they don't.
Win32 applications won't run because... they can't.
But the traditional desktop and files explorer will be there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQe11XKkJlY#t=1m55s
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Windows RT will come loaded with Office 2013 RT
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/arm-powered-windows-rt-to-run-office-2013-rt/

http://arstechnica.com/information-...hots-show-elegant-fusion-of-ribbon-and-metro/
however its looking good
i think metro will cap generally the OS potential
like IE10 metro version, have very little options .....

I guess it's far less Metro-Design that limits the options and functionality than the fact that those applications have been in development for far less time than their Desktop counter parts.
You won't see the control density you have on the Desktop now, simply because hit boxes would be too small which would make the apps fail certification for the Marketplace but aside from that I see pretty little functionality you could not create using WinRT as the basis.
I'm still really curious how many apps and what apps will be available when Windows 8 and Windows RT finally launch.

RT will certainly be interesting - Microsoft blocking non appstore applications could make it a somewhat limited device.
Still, may be a huge success. Only time will tell
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zeromention said:
RT will certainly be interesting - Microsoft blocking non appstore applications could make it a somewhat limited device.
Still, may be a huge success. Only time will tell
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but doesnt it support different "app stores"
so for example, an ideal setup would be to have your own company hub, which contains all needed local tools, these can be push updated and centrally managed across all win 8 sites,
So if thats possible i dont see why we couldnt do the same, much like we have custom app stores for Windows phone. unless is some kind of server side domain add on...that would suck!
as you say, time will tell but if it is locked down and the security is similar to Windows Phone 7, then its going to be a pain in the arse to crack open, say what you want about WP but its tighter than a ducks arse! were it not for OEM cockups we'd have no development at all!

[Q] will the tablet be able to run .EXE files?

Will the windows 8 surface tablet by microsoft that will be released soon be able to run the softwares I am using right now on my laptop?
.EXE files, desktop, and every basic computer thing, or it will be metro use only?
I'm really confused right now, I installed windows 8 R,P on my laptop and although I got a Metro-mobile.like view, I still have my desktop, my softwares and the whole PC-organized (IDK how to name it)..
So will this be available on the tablet too? (the one that the rumors says is gonna be 200-300$ cheap and fight the Nexus 7 head2head.
Thanks.

The Microsoft Surface which will be available soon will not run your "old Windows" Software. It will be the "little" Surfae which is running Windows 8 RT (ARM based).
Your "old" Windows software compiled for x86/x64 Windows.
The second edition of the Surface - the Surface Pro - is running Windows 8 Pro and this tablet will run all your desktop software.

Oh I see, so I was excited about the Surface for nothing, cuz if its just a Metro like windows phone, we are back to a Big-screen-smartphone-tablet...
I wonder about that "PRO" edition.. I'll look up for it,
Thanks for your answer!

Your welcome.
Microsoft presented four editions of their new tablet.
Two editions for each Windows RT and Windows 8 Pro:
Microsoft Surface (RT) with Windows RT (running on an ARM processor) and 16 or 32 GB which will be available around the official launch of Windows 8 near to october 26th
and
Microsoft Surface Pro with Windows 8 Pro (running an Core i5 [probably]) and 32 or 64 GB which will be available about three months later than the "little" Surface (that would be the end of january 2013)

I would like to correct you posts, Surface PRO will have a desktop, and will able to run your old windows apps.

junpeikawada said:
I would like to correct you posts, Surface PRO will have a desktop, and will able to run your old windows apps.
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Didn't I say exactly THAT:
hanswurst24 said:
The Microsoft Surface which will be available soon will not run your "old Windows" Software. It will be the "little" Surfae which is running Windows 8 RT (ARM based).
Your "old" Windows software compiled for x86/x64 Windows.
The second edition of the Surface - the Surface Pro - is running Windows 8 Pro and this tablet will run all your desktop software.
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(last sentence! please read before posting ^^ )

mcjordan92 said:
Will the windows 8 surface tablet by microsoft that will be released soon be able to run the softwares I am using right now on my laptop?
.EXE files, desktop, and every basic computer thing, or it will be metro use only?
I'm really confused right now, I installed windows 8 R,P on my laptop and although I got a Metro-mobile.like view, I still have my desktop, my softwares and the whole PC-organized (IDK how to name it)..
So will this be available on the tablet too? (the one that the rumors says is gonna be 200-300$ cheap and fight the Nexus 7 head2head.
Thanks.
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You did not install RP as that is not available as a download it would of been an x86 version probably pro. The x86 versions are full on windows, I currently ise Enterprise 64bit as my work machine and my home laptop. TBH I spend hardly anytime in the metro interface.
RT will still have the desktop view and limited support for some older style programs - internet explorer desktop mode, office 2013 etc. However you cant install anything outside the marketplace. It will most likely get hacked but if you need old style windows apps you will need to get the windows 8 not windows rt.

lumpaywk said:
You did not install RP as that is not available as a download it would of been an x86 version probably pro. The x86 versions are full on windows, I currently ise Enterprise 64bit as my work machine and my home laptop. TBH I spend hardly anytime in the metro interface.
RT will still have the desktop view and limited support for some older style programs - internet explorer desktop mode, office 2013 etc. However you cant install anything outside the marketplace. It will most likely get hacked but if you need old style windows apps you will need to get the windows 8 not windows rt.
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On my desktop theres a logo saying "Windows 8 Release Preview, evolution copy.."
Its not the first trial that was avialable at first, I got updated and re-installed it with some new stuffs..

mcjordan92 said:
On my desktop theres a logo saying "Windows 8 Release Preview, evolution copy.."
Its not the first trial that was avialable at first, I got updated and re-installed it with some new stuffs..
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This is the last of the beta, sorry I read the t as a p that's my bad. You can get a free trial of rtm (the final build as it will be sold), but once the trial is up you will have to reinstall a proper copy you cant just change the key. I have mine because I have volume license with support as well as TechNet and it is already released to us.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/jj554510.aspx

You'll just have to check what processor the tablet comes with, if its anything ARM based then it will NOT run your old software. If its Intel based, probably called an Intel Atom processor then it will run your old software since it uses the traditional x86 instruction set.

Yeah I figured it out, it kinda dissapointing.. I wished the buy the cheap tablet one as my school tablet but it seems now that its gonna be very expensive which make me think back about buying a laptop instead, or stick with my old laptop..

spunker88 said:
You'll just have to check what processor the tablet comes with, if its anything ARM based then it will NOT run your old software. If its Intel based, probably called an Intel Atom processor then it will run your old software since it uses the traditional x86 instruction set.
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I will note incase any noobs stumble across this that x64 is also x86 its just as its 64bit they like to use it to tell the diff etc.
They are x86 because they come from the 8086 from back in the late 70's and was only 16bit (I say only remember this was still the70's) and that replaced the 8080 (8 bit). The name just followed on (286, 386, 486, Pentium x86).

it's possible to get arm version of windows 11 running on Pixel C?

im just curious about that, i dont really any info.
its kinda possible install win 10 on switch and other Tegra X1 devices.
Hacker Installs Windows 10 on Nintendo's Switch Console
Nintendo Switch now supports Windows?
www.overclock3d.net

There is a thing called Windows phone, while it unpopular for now, who knows maybe it's time to shine is soon with this Windows 11 update. And Samsung idea of implementing AMD GPU into it's devices for the very first phone that supports ray tracing, it's very likely to be a catalyst to that as well.
The leaked version of Windows 11 is still in development, and it's still gonna have much more features, it also has a built-in android emulator that Microsoft works on.
Anything is possible on Linux if you have the knowledge, you probably shouldn't do that tho as it may prove to be security fatal to your data and also from the video you can see it's a bit sluggish which is yukky in my standards. Also for obvious reasons most android apps won't work on it.