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[Q] is it possible to install windows 7 on Acer A500 tablet?

Dear Friends,
When I shopped around for a tablet, the last thing that came to my mind was a tablet with OS Windows, however after using android tablet, I feel a tablet with windows is much better as we have software to go with it. I am a trader, I need multi profile sharing, video support, document editors, pdf to word convertors and other related apps to be mobile friendly. Can I install windows 7 on my Acer A500 which is currently running android?
How do I install it? Tablet don't have CD drive.
Where to download win 7 for tablet
Drivers for the tablet
please help
Cheers

I'll give you an advice. Sell your tablet and pack your bags. You are not cut out for installing even a custom rom.
Windows runs so far only on x64-x86 CPUs which are a totally different architecture from ARM.
Apps are incompatible among these two architectures. Windows 8 will run on ARM(yes iconia and all other tablets are ARM) but no previous apps will work unless built from scratch, on Windows 8 ARM edition.

y dont you sell your a500 and buy a w500? should be the easiest way

If you need Window$ (and I completely understand why you might) take a look at the existing windows tablets. Fujitsu just came out with a new slate form tablet that might fit your needs.
XDA is the wrong place to be.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fujitsu+tablet

obvious troll is obvious. see their other post.

Bec07 said:
I'll give you an advice. Sell your tablet and pack your bags. You are not cut out for installing even a custom rom.
Windows runs so far only on x64-x86 CPUs which are a totally different architecture from ARM.
Apps are incompatible among these two architectures. Windows 8 will run on ARM(yes iconia and all other tablets are ARM) but no previous apps will work unless built from scratch, on Windows 8 ARM edition.
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Sorry, I am just an end user not developer. I got no time for understanding software archetecture. As a user the equipment and sofware must support my needs. I can't connect to a Ad hoc connection, I cannot have multi profiles, equipment has 2 cameras but I cant use msn or yahoo to video call, the usb drive is just a socket for thumb drive. I can't get a mobile tethering via USB. Ms office cannot be installed, FAX applications don't work, not all bluetooth printers work. What more .... we spend money to make our business easy not end up installing ROM. Tabkets are ment to be laptop replacements and business friendly.

cool the fujitsu tablet looks real cool. I need to see if I can get a trade in with a top up on this iconia. I also saw the HP slate looks good as well.

Acer Windows Version
The Acer comes with windows 7 also.

kimi.singapore said:
Sorry, I am just an end user not developer. I got no time for understanding software archetecture. As a user the equipment and sofware must support my needs. I can't connect to a Ad hoc connection, I cannot have multi profiles, equipment has 2 cameras but I cant use msn or yahoo to video call, the usb drive is just a socket for thumb drive. I can't get a mobile tethering via USB. Ms office cannot be installed, FAX applications don't work, not all bluetooth printers work. What more .... we spend money to make our business easy not end up installing ROM. Tabkets are ment to be laptop replacements and business friendly.
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If all these things are as important as you say, then why the hell didn't you research your purchase first?

splatoid said:
The Acer comes with windows 7 also.
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A misleading statement. The W500 comes with Windows, not the A500.

kimi.singapore said:
Tabkets are ment to be laptop replacements and business friendly.
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There's your problem!
Tablets are not supposed to be laptop replacements. They are a different class of device entirely.
For some people, it is possible that a tablet can effectively replace a laptop, but it very much depends how you actually use a laptop in the first place. If you use your laptop for email, internet, and maybe some light games, then yes a tablet can replace it. Otherwise, a tablet is likely to be a companion device to another computer (e.g. a desktop or laptop).
In addition, "business friendly" doesn't mean suitable for all business applications. It just means, in my experience at least, that the device can be used for certain business functions, e.g. exchange support, VPN, remote desktop, Citrix etc.
Regards,
Dave

true and agreed, will installing win 7 do any help or will I have to purchase a new tablet? I am not a software person. Tried posting on Acers tech forum to no reply. Need advice if I need the above will a tabket help or do I stick to a laptop

tablet usage
Tablet computers are designed for on the go entertainment media web browsing games and access to online content.I had a Archos 9 win 7 tablet.wait for windows 8 if you want a desktop in a tablet.windows current verson Outright sucks on touch devices.do web searches and YouTube video search of using windows touch. If you need all of that and need it now.I have a 11.6 inch HP dm1 notebook 9 hours battery. Dual core machine. A.tablet will never replace that for actual work.
My tablet however never leaves my sight.awesome for content on the go from my purse.and not cramped on tiny cell screen.

kimi.singapore said:
true and agreed, will installing win 7 do any help or will I have to purchase a new tablet? I am not a software person. Tried posting on Acers tech forum to no reply. Need advice if I need the above will a tabket help or do I stick to a laptop
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You can't install win7, you will need to purchase a new one. If you want to stick with Acer they have a w500 (w for windows, like a500 is a for android). But there a number of other windows tablets out there. But if you are needing heavy windows use and portability, might I recommend a netbook

kimi.singapore said:
Sorry, I am just an end user not developer. I got no time for understanding software archetecture. As a user the equipment and sofware must support my needs. I can't connect to a Ad hoc connection, I cannot have multi profiles, equipment has 2 cameras but I cant use msn or yahoo to video call, the usb drive is just a socket for thumb drive. I can't get a mobile tethering via USB. Ms office cannot be installed, FAX applications don't work, not all bluetooth printers work. What more .... we spend money to make our business easy not end up installing ROM. Tabkets are ment to be laptop replacements and business friendly.
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1. What true business person has to resort to ad-hoc networks? Did you not realize the A500 is wifi only and doesn't have a 3G feature?
2. Why would you need multiple profiles? Are you sharing the tablet with others? A tablet is pretty much considered to be a one-person device like a phone.
3. There are multi-platform video conferencing apps that work. Of course Microsoft and Yahoo apps might not -- this is a Google device. Microsoft apps don't typically function on Apple devices either.
4. So far I use my USB port for card readers, thumbdrives, connecting my digital camera, keyboard, and mouse. This functionality will improve even more with the v3.1 update released within weeks.
5. There are 1/2 dozen Office compatible app suites available for Android. I don't think you would want to install a full version of Office on a mobile device with limited memory/storage.
6. There are plenty of modern and secure alternatives to the 1980's technology of faxing. That being said, there are numerous internet based FAX services that work perfectly with the A500.
7. Printers require drivers, and those come from the printer manufacturer. If they do not produce drivers for Android then you cannot print directly to those printers. However, there are apps that can satisfy your printing requirements. Again, paper and printed documents are becoming a thing of the past. Most industries have moved to digital.
My advice to you is to have your company's IT department set up some sort of RAS/Citrix type system that allows you to use your tablet (whether Android, Windows, or Apple) to connect to a full Windows computer over the internet and run all your standard Windows business apps and functions from there. Otherwise, a tablet (any/all tablets) just simply is not the device for you.

STUBORN SPOTTED ::::A500 WARNING ::::
YOU CAN NOT INSTALL, RUN, OR DO ANYTHING ELSE THAN AN OPERATING SYSTEM BUILD FOR ARM ARCHITECTURE...
Choices
- you go buy a laptop
- you buy a W500 (W stand for WINDOWS)
- you wait april 2012 for the release of WINDOWS 8 wich will probably run on ARM
- you recode whole windows for ARM architecture and open a new company armicrosoft with armdows
UNDERSTAND ?
A500 = Android = ARM CPU
W500 = Windows = AMD CPU
M500 = Meego = ???? dunno that one but I bet for A500 under disguise.
As you said you are just a end user... well me before buying something I take some information

kimi.singapore said:
Sorry, I am just an end user not developer. I got no time for understanding software archetecture. As a user the equipment and sofware must support my needs. I can't connect to a Ad hoc connection, I cannot have multi profiles, equipment has 2 cameras but I cant use msn or yahoo to video call, the usb drive is just a socket for thumb drive. I can't get a mobile tethering via USB. Ms office cannot be installed, FAX applications don't work, not all bluetooth printers work. What more .... we spend money to make our business easy not end up installing ROM. Tabkets are ment to be laptop replacements and business friendly.
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Tablets are not meant to replace laptops, whoever told you that does not know what they're talking about, Tablets are more entertainment oriented rather than business.
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meego x86 only
Meego is sponsored by Intel don't think it will ever run arm.
sanaell said:
STUBORN SPOTTED ::::A500 WARNING ::::
YOU CAN NOT INSTALL, RUN, OR DO ANYTHING ELSE THAN AN OPERATING SYSTEM BUILD FOR ARM ARCHITECTURE...
Choices
- you go buy a laptop
- you buy a W500 (W stand for WINDOWS)
- you wait april 2012 for the release of WINDOWS 8 wich will probably run on ARM
- you recode whole windows for ARM architecture and open a new company armicrosoft with armdows
UNDERSTAND ?
A500 = Android = ARM CPU
W500 = Windows = AMD CPU
M500 = Meego = ???? dunno that one but I bet for A500 under disguise.
As you said you are just a end user... well me before buying something I take some information
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sanaell said:
- you wait april 2012 for the release of WINDOWS 8 wich will probably run on ARM
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Not just probably: Win8 will ship in x86-64 and ARM-compatible versions. However, that still won't help OP much since it still cannot run x86 applications. OP would still have to wait for all his applications to be ported over to Silverlight and/or ARM versions.
As to the OP himself: you bought a tablet device in order to do business with it, meaning your income is atleast partially dependent on it, yet you didn't bother to do any kind of research on if it will evenbe suitable to such? Tough luck but you brought this on yourself. And as for running Win7 on a tablet device without a physical keyboard and mouse: forget it. It works, but only barely. Get a laptop.

erica_renee said:
My tablet however never leaves my sight.awesome for content on the go from my purse.and not cramped on tiny cell screen.
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Same here. I very rarely leave it at home, it's just such a great device and makes it easy to ogle at pictures of Johnny Depp :3

Windows 8 sucks for desktops....

lets be honest here.... the metro UI looks nice and all, but without a touch screen its completely out of place.. Keyboard and mouse interfaces have traditionally been vertical, you move through web pages vertically, you scroll through lists vertically, but metro UI is horizontal, scrolling down to turn right isn't quite intuitive....
and yea Ive done the "hack" to bring back the old start menu, but if you do that the metro UI kinda trips out plus thats the whole point of using windows 8 versus windows 7...
... worst thing was I deleted my Ubuntu partition to use it, but in a couple of days I think I'm gonna get the Ubuntu 11.10 beta 2 and delete windows 8

I totally agree..because what we expect from a PC is ease of access not the other way around...especially from keyboard and mouse they want us to use tiles
feels kinda stupid..the wrost case is search if I want to access a program is that really necessary for me to know which category it will falls in...its easy sometimes but not in the case of normal users....if MS really doesn't want to face the vista situation...they need to really think about the PC version of Win8....one more thing I want yo point out is that OS is really good for touchscreen capable devices but not for analog device operation....this is my opinion for the current developer built and not for win8 as a whole...

dats true tablet layout on PC is weird.
But win 8's performance is awesome.

maybe i'm just weird like that, but i kinda like the metro ui on my laptop/desktop setup. even though i don't have a touch-enabled screen, it didn't take me long to get used to using metro and make it work the way i like.

The live tiles and simplicity of it all are very nice, and dual booting Kubuntu was simple, I'm quite sure triple booting (Win7) would be a piece of cake as well. The desk top with the split screen is awesome! And a desktop is a desk top I don 't see the big deal here... Oh, this is a pre beta, I almost forgot. So let's see, New features, choices, smaller footprint, options, OH and Upgrade!?!? Can we try and see the cool part of it?

Waste of large application widget grids...
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It's a dev preview. It's not even a beta. Anything can and will change. Don't base your opinions of W8 on this.

Damn. How do u get 500MB download speed? Why apple?

You are not forces to use Metro. The Classic desktop will be there too.

Will they be implementing Kinect to use with the new dashboard for those who dont have a touchscreen?

i love the boot's time of win8

I love everything about it. Smooth, fast, easy to use. Even Metro UI that will be lot better when we have apps for it. And sync! Seriously, Windows 8 is fine.
I didnt have any BSOD until now. Just some freezes in my Mac Mini (but my Dell is perfect), and I can blame Apple for that.
For those who hate Metro UI.. Stop complaining a little. You can use the default desktop as your main, and Metro UI just as a launcher of apps/programs. Whining wont make MS remove it. This is the future. If you think you'd do better, then try to be Microsoft's CEO.

master.peterm said:
lets be honest here.... the metro UI looks nice and all, but without a touch screen its completely out of place.. Keyboard and mouse interfaces have traditionally been vertical, you move through web pages vertically, you scroll through lists vertically, but metro UI is horizontal, scrolling down to turn right isn't quite intuitive....
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I have to agree. I've been through the dev preview and I very much like the layout.. for a tablet. On a desktop however, it just seems wrong.

Arowan said:
i love the boot's time of win8
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Becuz they just cheated u by just hibernating..
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yes it does
this is not a revolution, its a start over from the first day of pc's
what a disgrace
how long ago did a dialog box have a simple solid color? along with the buttons?

master.peterm said:
lets be honest here.... the metro UI looks nice and all, but without a touch screen its completely out of place.. Keyboard and mouse interfaces have traditionally been vertical, you move through web pages vertically, you scroll through lists vertically, but metro UI is horizontal, scrolling down to turn right isn't quite intuitive....
and yea Ive done the "hack" to bring back the old start menu, but if you do that the metro UI kinda trips out plus thats the whole point of using windows 8 versus windows 7...
... worst thing was I deleted my Ubuntu partition to use it, but in a couple of days I think I'm gonna get the Ubuntu 11.10 beta 2 and delete windows 8
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Aside from Windows Mobile and Pocket PC, Microsoft has always kind of had horizontal interfaces(Windows Media Center, Live, Xbox 360, etc etc). But just to note, this preview isn't anything final or was made to be ran as a daily OS. The Metro UI is made for tablets, it most likely won't be incorporated in final desktop builds or if it is, it'll be more adjusted to the desktop environment. All this Preview was made to do, was introduce Metro UI and the tools to create apps to work with the Metro UI. Even though it's still heavily based on NT 6.1, so far Windows 8 uses less resources than what Windows 7 did in both beta and final builds thanks to some kernel differences as well as filesystem changes.
Looking at the past as well, the Windows 7 beta used more resources than Windows 7 final. Windows Vista used more resources than both. Windows XP was built in a different manor, so not really counting XP in this. So far, Windows Developer preview is using less resources than Windows 7 7601. If history repeats itself, Windows 8 final will use less resources than the betas, developer preview, and 7. And if rumors of registry being cut out in windows 8 final and apps that need the registry is being taken care of by Hyper-V support, then to me that makes Windows 8 x100 times better than previous Windows systems.

as far as I am concerned Windows 8 is just UI update for tablets or other devices that have touch screens and shouldn't be called windows 8 it should be windows 7.1 !

Check your machine configuration!!

Starting to like this
I have used every version of windows since 2.5 on 5.25 floppy disk's. It took alot of getting used to not having the start menu that we have been used to since 1995. But with that said once you start getting the navigation down pat it is alot faster at finding and running programs. Wait i have to be politically correct here APPS LOL. I boot up which is amazing and click the Firefox app and Bam i am on the internet kinda digging it. The only thing that i have an issue with is None of the preinstalled apps work trust me im on a dell xps15 and my screen resolution is good enough. gonna try a reinstall with a fresh wipe to see if that clears it up. other than that i'm happy.

vbetts said:
Aside from Windows Mobile and Pocket PC, Microsoft has always kind of had horizontal interfaces(Windows Media Center, Live, Xbox 360, etc etc). But just to note, this preview isn't anything final or was made to be ran as a daily OS. The Metro UI is made for tablets, it most likely won't be incorporated in final desktop builds or if it is, it'll be more adjusted to the desktop environment. All this Preview was made to do, was introduce Metro UI and the tools to create apps to work with the Metro UI. Even though it's still heavily based on NT 6.1, so far Windows 8 uses less resources than what Windows 7 did in both beta and final builds thanks to some kernel differences as well as filesystem changes.
Looking at the past as well, the Windows 7 beta used more resources than Windows 7 final. Windows Vista used more resources than both. Windows XP was built in a different manor, so not really counting XP in this. So far, Windows Developer preview is using less resources than Windows 7 7601. If history repeats itself, Windows 8 final will use less resources than the betas, developer preview, and 7. And if rumors of registry being cut out in windows 8 final and apps that need the registry is being taken care of by Hyper-V support, then to me that makes Windows 8 x100 times better than previous Windows systems.
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yes they will incorporate it in final pcs...
however I actually have enjoyed metro ui and it actually functions pretty darn well on a desktop pc
There are some things I hope will be changed (mouse simulating touch input for instance which can alleviate a lot of transition issues) but otherwise I have a really good experience of it

[Q] What is the need of a desktop in windows 8?If the whole thing is in Start menu?

I dont know y microsoft gave a desktop in widows 8 when you can do everything in the start menu?

they made it so the old user won't have problems fitting themselves to the new UI.
and it's made so pc user can use W8 correctly (no too damn big buttons)

They did it so Windows 8 can run older windows apps as well as metro apps.
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moutansos said:
They did it so Windows 8 can run older windows apps as well as metro apps.
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exactly, it was for backward compatibility with older versions of Windows. But truly the metro screen is just a new incarnation of the start menu.
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So does that mean windows 8 still has a regular desktop? also is it possible to install windows 8 on tablets, thats what it seems like its meant for

i could have sworn that I answered almost the exact same question the other day....
robotnikman said:
So does that mean windows 8 still has a regular desktop? also is it possible to install windows 8 on tablets, thats what it seems like its meant for
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Windows 8 does have desktop
Windows (8) RT does not, that is the ARM fork of windows, or at least that is what we believe to be the case
you can install Windows 8 on a tablet based on x86,
Tablets based on ARM can not be installed, or at least that is what MS intends, it might be possible but out of the box Windows RT isn't a retail product.

Assembly Language said:
I dont know y microsoft gave a desktop in widows 8 when you can do everything in the start menu?
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For the same reason why it has a desktop in Win7!?!
What a ridiculous question.

Hmm, as I've observed. Maybe that's one thing that makes Win8 boot more faster.

Yep, I think they did it because if the left it out, all the old windows Users would miss it and won't use W8, and since it is aviable, users that don't like the Metro theme, can use the old Desktop..
But I don't like it at all! Maybe on a TouchPad, or a Notebook with Touchscreen.. But for usual Desktops and Laptops the new metro theme in W8 is not a very good solution.
I don't like all that Touch-Stuff (You can see that in thr "new" Ubunu, too), since i'm using a regular Laptop & Desktop without any Touch screens.. They could implement for example something like scrolling by moving the cursor to the side of the screen, to make it more comfortable for users like me..
I think I'll stay on Win7.. Updating is too expensive anyway .

Without a desktop everything would need more time. Like to copy a text from the "internet explorer" to a word document.

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Without a desktop everything would need more time. Like to copy a text from the "internet explorer" to a word document.
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How so? Metro does have context menus. The multitasking needs a little work (Apps repeatedly restart on me when I switch to them) but it takes the same amount of time. If you think otherwise you're a tiny bit delusional. You have to focus the app anyway (even in desktop), right click and press paste, or if you use keyboard shortcuts, use them. Same amount of time really.
Also,.user two posts above, they DO scroll by moving the mouse top the side of the screen. ;-)
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Assembly Language said:
I dont know y microsoft gave a desktop in widows 8 when you can do everything in the start menu?
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because metro sucks if you have a gaming rig and non touch screen

ShinigamiH4ck3r said:
because metro sucks if you have a gaming rig and non touch screen
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Disagree, I play games with Windows 8 on my NetBook and they play fine, I also have attached a keyboard, mouse and monitor to it and it was still alright to use.
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Think about trying to be a programmer on metro. Its a big pain, desktop is never going to fade unless major editors and compilers find some way to make it more convient on metro, which i doubt since you have the constant need to quickly switch between programs and explorer windows
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Dri94 said:
Think about trying to be a programmer on metro. Its a big pain, desktop is never going to fade unless major editors and compilers find some way to make it more convient on metro, which i doubt since you have the constant need to quickly switch between programs and explorer windows
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I doubt it will be that hard. Would love to try writing code inside metro, compilers won't need metro equivalents though only editors (SciTe, VS, etc.) but either way, people are missing the point of metro which is not to replace the standard desktop, but replace the start menu and enhance the desktop.
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ShadowEO said:
I doubt it will be that hard. Would love to try writing code inside metro, compilers won't need metro equivalents though only editors (SciTe, VS, etc.) but either way, people are missing the point of metro which is not to replace the standard desktop, but replace the start menu and enhance the desktop.
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No, Microsoft is trying to replace the standard desktop.
The main reason for thinking this.. they are trying to do away with the file/object system that computers have been based on for just about forever. They are pushing towards a data-driven interface. The two don't mesh well, which is why windows 8 is a mess of different methodologies.
It really all has very little to do with touchscreens and such. Touch is just the current and most obvious way of interacting with data.

ShadowEO said:
I doubt it will be that hard. Would love to try writing code inside metro, compilers won't need metro equivalents though only editors (SciTe, VS, etc.) but either way, people are missing the point of metro which is not to replace the standard desktop, but replace the start menu and enhance the desktop.
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Switching between browser, text editor, eclipse (just as an example) and such take longer when using the metro way [moving mouse to topleft waiting for thing to pop up and then selecting], each time. thats all i mean

Dri94 said:
Switching between browser, text editor, eclipse (just as an example) and such take longer when using the metro way [moving mouse to topleft waiting for thing to pop up and then selecting], each time. thats all i mean
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Agree with that. Only the action of shutting down the computer is slower than in Windows 7. You have to wait the bar to pop up, then select settings, and then shut down instead of moving quickly the mouse to the bottom left corner, click on Start button and press Shut down.

I have always used multitasking keys to switch apps, so there is no difference in speed, but win8 seems snappier.
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ShinigamiH4ck3r said:
because metro sucks if you have a gaming rig and non touch screen
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Also disagree. I play alsorts of games on my tablet and have had no problems. I will admit that without a touch screen you loose alot of fun from Windows 8, but if you are a serious gamer like me, Windows 7 ultimate x64 is for gaming, windows 8 x64 is for work/living room/bedtime/keeping the wife quiet

So, can RT run desktop apps?

I have seen videos of microsoft surface with WinRT and it comes with full desktop including windows explorer, good old control panel, standard accessories like calculator, notepad etc. (unlike I expected - I thought it would be just metro with very stripped desktop only for office).
Does that mean if someone compiled program for ARM, would it run on Windows RT?

RT only does metro.

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RT only does metro.
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I believe it could if those apps were wrote for ITS desktop mode and distributed via Windows Store. One can make such app - but what for?
Unless like with Office apps it is convenient to have them on task (few Windows) bar for easy swap you dont really need a desktop.

Rt can run exes but they have to be compiled for arm and signed by Microsoft. This is why office works, and we may see visual studio and other Microsoft stuff in the future.
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So in the other words, unless someone figures out how to disable signing, we can't run anything on WinRT? It seemed like a promising product for a moment...

matejdro said:
So in the other words, unless someone figures out how to disable signing, we can't run anything on WinRT? It seemed like a promising product for a moment...
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No, "unless someone figures out how to disable signing" AND app itself will be written for ARM architecture. In case of x86/64 apps (like was "original" Office) they have to be recompiled.
I believe it is way more difficult than "jumping" between ARM platforms like Windows Phone, iOS and Android.
One would think that difficulty of such action would be (starting with the easiest/least time consuming task):
1. Preparing app that was meant for WP8 so it can run on Win RT
2. Preparing an app from Android/iOS/WP 7.x so it can run on Win RT
3. As above but from x86/64 platforms...

I know about whole ARM thing. I was just curious if microsoft allows us to run our own desktop apps if they are compiled properly.

I very much doubt that.
Those of you who will have such need will be able to do so under dev accounts. To all the rest both modes will stay shut.
This way Ms will be able to make cash from its Windows Store.
Since they had to keep Win Pro open, because hardly anyone would swap from XP/Vista/7 it is not the case with RT.
Ms can follow footsteps of iOS and Android.
More intresting to me is how long will it tkate to brake this (RT) system...

Windows 10 on SATV?

This may be a silly question but do you think it would be possible, in the near future, to have windows 10 on SATV? i remember reading something similar about the shield portable.
Thanks to who will answer this silly question

well, it may be possible to get windows 10 RT on the SATV with TONS of modding and somehow managing to get microsoft and nvidia to ok it, but IMHO , this won't happen any time soon without virtualization which means really slow ... painfully slow use.

Umisguy said:
well, it may be possible to get windows 10 RT on the SATV with TONS of modding and somehow managing to get microsoft and nvidia to ok it, but IMHO , this won't happen any time soon without virtualization which means really slow ... painfully slow use.
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thanks for answering! I knew it would have been nearly impossible but since there are mini pc's with much much lower specs i was wondering if..!! Thanks anyway!

The majority of the reason for the issues with your question have to do with the fact that the nvidia shield android tv is in fact due to it not having an x86 CPU

Windows RT runs on ARM processors.

lorenzoamati2606 said:
This may be a silly question but do you think it would be possible, in the near future, to have windows 10 on SATV? i remember reading something similar about the shield portable.
Thanks to who will answer this silly question
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its not completely impossible but it wont run very well (though it may be somewhat usable after waiting forever for it to boot).
you can use an x86 emulator like Bochs and then install windows but there hasn't been a lot of success with a very usable install, and I haven't heard of windows 10 working but I have heard of success with windows 8.
obviously the older windows versions have the most success, windows xp being the most popular but windows 95 obviously running better because of the low resources needed.
here is a tutorial : Windows XP for Bochs
you may want a full android install before trying it, and obviously a keyboard and mouse.
Windows 8 RT does support ARM but is not open source so porting it to this hardware without Microsoft would be problematic to say the least.
on top of that Microsoft dropped support for Windows RT once the Atom chip was released and they found that they could just use full x86 windows installs.
on a side note, I know its not really what you asked but if a desktop replacement is what your looking for you might try linux: link here
or a full android install (I use android exclusively for home and work successfully myself with no access at home to another OS)