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Weird spot on the screen

Hi guys,
Today I noticed a very weird looking spot on the screen, or better just below it. It seems like there is some fluid just beneath the surface of the screen. I am always very careful with my HTC's, so I really don't believe I caused it... There was no pressure, I didn't drop it, I carry it in my shirt breast pocket or inside pocket of my jacket, without any other items. I really really dont know what happened - I pulled it out of it's leather sleeve, and it was there. This morning it wasn't.
Any idea if this is covered under warranty? Any idea what caused it?
Best Regards,
Lukas

Lukasss said:
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I'd be STRAIGHT on to my supplier if mine looked like that! How does it look when the screen is on, cos let's face it, that's when it really matters, and probably how they'll view it when it comes to the warranty.

It's difficult to capture on a picture, but it's VERY visible when screen is on. Colors beneath the spot (wallpaper) seem washed out a little, so you get a very small color difference...

Something to do with cold weather and heating leading to condensation? I have no idea but I would ake a photo and email HTC AND your place of purchase ASAP to see if you could get a replacement, even if it doesnt bother you when the screen is on. It would bother me though, I think I havean almost OCD like quality when it comes to devices being perfect...
On a second thought, the leather case that comes with it is extremely tight, I couldn't remove my phone from it for the first few days till it stretched out! Do you think that might be enough pressure to do that to a screen?

I'd definitely get on to whoever you got this from then. That's not good!

call the waranty service ...

Mine had a weird spot as well right in the middle (and it appeared out of nothing like yours). Doesn't quite look like yours though (maybe you just caN't see it in the photo). Only noticeable at certain angles, and it looks like a colorful smudge. With the screen on it's even harder to notice it. When you press on it the "puddle" moves and shifts.
It looks like there is humidity under it. I went to the shop where I bought it, and they said that happens with some other touch screen phones, and is bound to disappear. The guy said it was due to the heat getting trapped bellow the screen.
In my opinion looks more like a humidity condensation thing.
Take it to the shop where you bought it, ask for an opinion. You still have loads of time to use the warranty, and if in 3 or 4 months it is still there or if that bothers you, just activate the warranty.

Thnx for the replies guys!
Something to do with cold weather and heating leading to condensation? I have no idea but I would ake a photo and email HTC AND your place of purchase ASAP to see if you could get a replacement, even if it doesnt bother you when the screen is on. It would bother me though, I think I havean almost OCD like quality when it comes to devices being perfect...
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I don't think it's cold/warm/cold issue... Today I got up, put my phone in my inside jacket pocket, went down to my garage, got in the car, drove to work, into an underground garage and took the elevator into the office - phone wasn't exposed to cold today AT ALL. And it doesn't seem to be water, it's not very fluid, and there is no damp.
even if it doesnt bother you when the screen is on
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It bothers me massively - even when I'm NOT looking at it. The spot is also very visible when the screen is turned on.
I'd definitely get on to whoever you got this from then. That's not good!
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Did that immediatly after noticing the spot - my supplier asked me to e-mail him the pictures which I did, but he seemed reluctant to promise a replacement... He said that quote mechanical damage is not covered by HTC warranty unquote. This sucks - I didn't do anything wrong!
Grtz
Lukas

CyberClaw said:
Mine had a weird spot as well right in the middle (and it appeared out of nothing like yours). Doesn't quite look like yours though (maybe you just caN't see it in the photo). Only noticeable at certain angles, and it looks like a colorful smudge. With the screen on it's even harder to notice it. When you press on it the "puddle" moves and shifts.
It looks like there is humidity under it. I went to the shop where I bought it, and they said that happens with some other touch screen phones, and is bound to disappear. The guy said it was due to the heat getting trapped bellow the screen.
In my opinion looks more like a humidity condensation thing.
Take it to the shop where you bought it, ask for an opinion. You still have loads of time to use the warranty, and if in 3 or 4 months it is still there or if that bothers you, just activate the warranty.
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Thnx for the reply.
The spot on my phone is really visible, doesn't matter at which angle you look. Screen off is worse than with screen on. There is no color in the spot whatsoever and it doesn't seem to be movable (if I press hard I can make it bigger, but it returns to original size after release)... I'll keep it warm for the night, and I'll see tomorrow... I could measure it, and see if dimensions are changing when temperature rises or drops.
Grtz
Lukas

Have you flown with it recently?

Pagnell said:
Have you flown with it recently?
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Nope... so no pressure changes either. Good thinking though...

WTF???
When I heat it for about ten minutes with a blow dryer it disapears. When I stop heating it, it reappears @ room temperature... WTF is this thing?

Lukasss said:
When I heat it for about ten minutes with a blow dryer it disapears. When I stop heating it, it reappears @ room temperature... WTF is this thing?
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WTF indeed!?! When it dissapears does the display show correctly where it used to be?

Yes, you don't see anything wrong. For about two minutes. Then the spot reappears exactly in the center of the screen (where the 'wait' cursor/hourglass appears) and starts to grow until it has it's "original" dimensions.
???

Lukasss said:
Thnx for the reply.
The spot on my phone is really visible, doesn't matter at which angle you look. Screen off is worse than with screen on. There is no color in the spot whatsoever and it doesn't seem to be movable (if I press hard I can make it bigger, but it returns to original size after release)... I'll keep it warm for the night, and I'll see tomorrow... I could measure it, and see if dimensions are changing when temperature rises or drops.
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Looking at the placement, it seems it's similar to mine, which is right in the center. Mine returns to the center if I press it as well.
The heat test you just did made me believe it has something to do with heat like the guy where I bought it said...
Here is another thread on the same subject (different phone)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293311

I kept reading around, there are reports of the duct tape method.
Basically it works in the presumption the problem is both screens not keeping space between themselves. Just use duct tape over the wet patch, and pull it 20 or 30 times, and the screen should lift and the patch disappear. I'll try it and tell you if it worked.

Thank you! I'll try it as well.

Didn't work...

lol... I had to look for tape, but the tape method was unsuccessful as well on mine.
thnx anyways.

this is a capacitive touch screen so all are glass and the tape method won't work as there isn't anything to lift up unlike the resistive screen where there is a gap between the top plastic and the actual screen

Nexus One touch screen doesn't work properly when horizontal

Hi, I've now used the Nuxus One for a few days and I'm pretty happy with it and all it's fancy fetures.
The phone works flawlessly and the only minor issue I'm willing to report is the fact that when the phone is lying on the table the touchscreen doesn't respond as quickly as it does when holding it in hand..
I've also noticed that if you touch the shell of the phone with a finger while trying to use the touchscreen, everything goes back to normal.
Is it a flaw only present in mine or is it an issue that involves the capacitive touch screen of the Nexus?

Video Proof
This is the video I've taken with my other phone so it would me much clearer what I mean..
The quality is not great but I hope it will be explicative enough..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXPpyGwuSzM

mine work correctly, try it on another table

I've tried it on different surfaces but the result it's the same..
Problem is that it doesn't always do it, so it's difficult to judge if a surface works better than an other.
I've called HTC support and together with them I've done some tests, like letting another person use it the same way, but nothing changes.
I've also done a hard reset and nothing has changed so I think I will have to send it in hoping they will fix it..
I envy you in the US where you can just ask for a replacement...

Is it possible that your fingers are real dry and or you are working in a dry low humidity environment?

rotohammer said:
Is it possible that your fingers are real dry and or you are working in a dry low humidity environment?
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Hi,
I don't think so, since I've now tried it in different environments and by different people...
This is very weired..and annoying..

I've had my Nexus One for over a month, but I recall having the same issue one day early on.
Similarly, I've had days where I can't operate the touchpad on my notebook computer because my fingers were dried out from handling solvents.
I have an associate that has a similar issue when the phone is in a leather holster case. She has to take the phone out on occasion to operate it, most while driving.

havent had any issues. Call them for a replacement

I think I will do so!
The problem is minor but sometimes can be a real nuisance..

Looks like screen isn't grounded properly.

Yes, I think so too. It must be something electrical. When I keep it in hand or touch it, the static electricity must not influence it, but it does so if I try using it lying on its own.

I've taken another video changing the surface on which I use it on..
Take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ-nS_h5Pqs

I'm glad to see you're still investigating. Because the problem is so repeatable, and the fact that its not a common complaint, I'd conclude theres a something wrong with your phone.
One thing I'd try is to remove the battery for 8hrs (overnight) and see if that make a difference. I've worked with a lot of electronic devices that behave badly after receiving a static discharge. Sometimes leaving it sit without power helps the static dissipate.
But the fact that it works while on the laptop would indicate a poor ground from the touchscreen circuit to the chassis of the phone, as the proximity of the laptop changes the capacitance of the internal circuit enough to overcome the lack of effect that the chassis alone needs to provide.

hehe I have to investigate to be sure this is a bug relative to my device so that when I will send it in for repair they will have to find a way to solve it and not just pretend it doesn't exist...

try pressing with all skin and not with your nail. It needs heat to work.

htcmagic said:
It needs heat to work.
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No, it doesn't. To prove it, hold a metal spoon and slide it across your screen. Mine works.

this was a common problem on the G1 and the way the capacitive screen was designed. In order for it to be functioning completely, HTC told users that he needed to have it in his hand or at least a finger or two touching the phone. HTC said that it simulated a circuit (the hand on the phone made a complete circuit while just touching it left the circuit incomplete) I have noticed the same thing on the N1... it works great in my hand on if i am touching the sides with a finger and scrolling or using it, but if i just lay it down and try to scroll/touch with 1 finger it becomes much less responsive, the same way the G1 would.
i will see if i can find the exact thread over in the G1 forums where all this is posted.

It makes sense, but then, why others work? mmm...

Batas said:
It makes sense, but then, why others work? mmm...
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The only thing I found while googling is that you need some humidity in the air for it to work effectively. I'm really not sure if that applies to this specific design though.

I've never had an issue with using the screen on a table, so this is probably isolated, I'd give htc a call and ask for repairs.
Edit: I just tried for the hell of it doing the pinky touch on the frame, and the soft buttons became much more responsive. Hmm

[DISCUSSION] A thought about the "hinge issue": Possible Solution

Hi.
Just a thought here.
What if you would put magnetic tape on the areas on the picture.
That would take away the loose hinge problem, aint im right.
Then a thought about the magnetic, how will that screw up the gps, compass, the lcd screen or something else.
Anyone have any thoughts?

sluden said:
Hi.
Just a thought here.
What if you would put magnetic tape on the areas on the picture.
That would take away the loose hinge problem, aint im right.
Then a thought about the magnetic, how will that screw up the gps, compass, the lcd screen or something else.
Anyone have any thoughts?
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It would take away the problem. And an accurate compass.
And perhaps the screen.
The only other thing would be velcro. And screw that!

Any other ideas, the compass i can live without...
The screen is just a little harder to live without.

As DanWilson says, maybe very weak velcro will do the trick.

Dont think velcro is a good choice...
very very weak, maybe

I realise that different handsets suffer more or less from the hinge 'problem', mine seems to be fairly average and does open half way if you pick it not touching the bottom half. But for me I have to hold it in such an awkward way that I usually drop it before or when the hinge flops open.
I find that if I hold the phone in a normal grip with thumb on left side and fingers on the right theres no way it can come open no matter what angle you hold it at?

Is the hinge open itself? U cannot write sms/email in bed or it's just a little loose. I do not see how hinge can prevent normal usage of phone.
BTW. It's not a issue it's by design!

I have been saying magnetic tape is the solution for weeks now!
My Z's hinge is fine at the moment so I am not best to try it out but if anyone does please report back, although I cannot see how it won't work.

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I realise that different handsets suffer more or less from the hinge 'problem', mine seems to be fairly average and does open half way if you pick it not touching the bottom half. But for me I have to hold it in such an awkward way that I usually drop it before or when the hinge flops open.
I find that if I hold the phone in a normal grip with thumb on left side and fingers on the right theres no way it can come open no matter what angle you hold it at?
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agree totally with u
Well written!

This has to be the biggest non-issue I've ever seen when it comes to cell phone design. I have seen the videos online and I have reproduced the "issue" on my DZ, but as D3LTA9 said earlier, I have to hold it so awkwardly and gingerly that I end up dropping it before the hinge opens.
If your fingers are more than 1/8" wide, you will not hold your phone like this in any real-life, practical operation of the phone.

mymanchris said:
This has to be the biggest non-issue I've ever seen when it comes to cell phone design. I have seen the videos online and I have reproduced the "issue" on my DZ, but as D3LTA9 said earlier, I have to hold it so awkwardly and gingerly that I end up dropping it before the hinge opens.
If your fingers are more than 1/8" wide, you will not hold your phone like this in any real-life, practical operation of the phone.
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Was just about the wrte the same.. i have a loose "hinge" but no problem..
so i ask "What Hinge Issue ???"

This was born out of people expecting something from the phone that it was not designed to do, with the way the hinge is designed it is always going to fall back on itself in certain situations, it doesn't lock into place and is not meant to.
Sure some are looser than others but its still not an issue, if you don't like it don't moan and try a replacement you need a different phone, get a milestone 2 or something.

Well, got my Z. Yes, it's loose, but I don't care, because opening and closing is very good and I don't use my phone like that, that keyboard would drop...

I'm sure mine is faulty, it just doesn't stay open when I'm trying to txt whilst doing a headstand!!
No,... seriously, mine is loose, doesn't take much effort to open or close, and it does shut itself if I open it and try to hold it face down horizontal... but I never need to use it in that position. Even in bed, if I'm lying on my back, there is always at least a 90 degree angle, maybe upto 140 degrees as the viewing angles are so nice.
My personal preference,... I would like it slight little bit tighter,... but saying that, then I wouldn't be able to open it with one finger???.... so actually,.... as it is is fine.
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Has anyone here done the "magnetic tape" trick to fix their loose hinge? Mine is starting to get loose, but I don't think it's much of a problem even though I keep opening/closing it to see how loose it might be.

This was actually discussed and attempted sometime ago. The guy who did it said it worked great and he didn't have any issues with the compass/GPS. As far as I know, he was the only one who tried though (before the thread got locked due to immature and off-topic posts). Some pics of his mod are on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802202&page=3
There is a video demonstrating its effectiveness on the page after.
Another solution is actually taking the hinge apart and messing with the spring inside. This has been successful for a lot of people (myself included).
Post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863919
Videos of mod here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884455 (look through entire thread for more videos)

Motorola response to multi-touch bug

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The 30 second threshold is actually something built in to aid in detection of moisture on the screen and normalize the touch plane (like shaking an Etch A Sketch). The algorithm is this case assumes a finger that is on one spot for an extended period of time is actually a drop of water. If the finger is removed from the screen, touch should become usable again in a second or two in that spot. The touch driver would then detect essentially a "negative touch" in the area where the finger was removed and do a screen calibration (shake the Etch A Sketch again). We are looking into what can be done to increase this time threshold for you gamers and still provide a good water immunity experience. The tradeoff would be if your phone screen gets wet (rain or mist), the touch on the screen would become basically unusable. Stay tuned to this thread for updates.

It does make sense when you think about it.

Whenever I hear stuff like this I get a little bit disappointed. What ever happened to being able to ENABLE/DISABLE features like this? Wouldn't that make a hell of a lot more sense then trying to increase the threshold time?

cafe. said:
Whenever I hear stuff like this I get a little bit disappointed. What ever happened to being able to ENABLE/DISABLE features like this? Wouldn't that make a hell of a lot more sense then trying to increase the threshold time?
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Man I wish everyone would think like you.

Hopefully they will add an enable/disable button and be done with it.
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cafe. said:
Whenever I hear stuff like this I get a little bit disappointed. What ever happened to being able to ENABLE/DISABLE features like this? Wouldn't that make a hell of a lot more sense then trying to increase the threshold time?
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I dunno. It can really go both ways to be honest. I don't think it's a massive flop by any means. I'm personally not the biggest gamer so it's not a big deal to me. But I do see where it's a bit of a ***** as well.
Hopefully they think of something constructive to address the challenge.

Thanks, plz keep us posted about this issue, this glitch is the worst of all. I hope they can fix it soon, altought i thought that they will fix it on the last release 4.1.83 but they did not!!!

It isn't completely without reason, though... So I don't think anyone can really call it a"glitch". That would be like saying the touchpad on a laptop it's glitched because the cursor won't move if you're palming it, even though most have features to prevent movement in such situations. It's basically to make sure the screen is still usable should it get a spot of water on it. But I guess if they didn't have such a measure, we'd possibly be reading threads complaining about the opposite.
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Techcruncher said:
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The 30 second threshold is actually something built in to aid in detection of moisture on the screen and normalize the touch plane (like shaking an Etch A Sketch). The algorithm is this case assumes a finger that is on one spot for an extended period of time is actually a drop of water. If the finger is removed from the screen, touch should become usable again in a second or two in that spot. The touch driver would then detect essentially a "negative touch" in the area where the finger was removed and do a screen calibration (shake the Etch A Sketch again). We are looking into what can be done to increase this time threshold for you gamers and still provide a good water immunity experience. The tradeoff would be if your phone screen gets wet (rain or mist), the touch on the screen would become basically unusable. Stay tuned to this thread for updates.
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https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/47362
Link to the actual thread where the quoted quote was said.
Quoted quote.....

elementaldragon said:
It isn't completely without reason, though... So I don't think anyone can really call it a"glitch". That would be like saying the touchpad on a laptop it's glitched because the cursor won't move if you're palming it, even though most have features to prevent movement in such situations. It's basically to make sure the screen is still usable should it get a spot of water on it. But I guess if they didn't have such a measure, we'd possibly be reading threads complaining about the opposite.
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I don't think I would ever say "This is horrible. I can't believe my phone doesn't work when I leave drops of water on the screen for 10+ secs!"...
Now, I say this all the time "I can't believe that I can't play most emulator games on the Atrix because I can't leave my finger on the same spot for 10+ secs"

I just hope that this doesn't have anything to do with hardware and more of a software problem (feature).

there should be a way for games to turn that off.
How do other phones handle that? HTC, Apple?

I agree, there should be a way to turn it off. They may have an explanation, but there really is no excuse when other phones like the iPhone handle such things completely seamlessly. Their implementation and solution to the perceived water issue may work, but only under ideal conditions (ie. where you aren't needing to touch the screen for some time).

I don't get this, who leaves water drops on their screen for 10+ second while they're using it? If I'm getting this straight, it will only ignore the input after it has been sitting there for a while.
The reason I post now is that I was using my SGS in the rain the other day. It actually did go wonky when some big water drops landed on it, but my reaction was not "gee I hope there is an algorithm that will ignore that input in 10 seconds" it was to wipe the water off and get to cover!

I game and never had a problem with this.
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I smell a "smart screen" toggle widget...
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If you have water on your screen for more than 10 seconds, you have bigger problems than whether touch is detected from that water drop or not. </dead phone>

Sir_Brizz said:
If you have water on your screen for more than 10 seconds, you have bigger problems than whether touch is detected from that water drop or not. </dead phone>
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uuh... last time i checked, water on the screen won't kill the phone.
And i don't think it's only referring to "Hey look, it's raining. Those drops of water might affect your touchscreen." I can't imagine tiny little droplets possibly from the process of wiping the screen wouldn't have the same effect.
maledyris: Well... that's also the iPhone... who's vast majority of users probably wouldn't be able to tell you why a capacitive touchscreen is leaps and bounds better than a resistive touchscreen, or even what the difference is. All they know is it's from Apple.... and has the GB's and the WiFi's.... and every sheep in town has one.

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uuh... last time i checked, water on the screen won't kill the phone.
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You're right, but how many people just let water hang out on the screen for long periods of time? I know I wipe it right off. A drop sitting there for 10+ seconds probably means water is getting behind the screen, probably means say goodbye to your phone as it is about to die.

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You're right, but how many people just let water hang out on the screen for long periods of time? I know I wipe it right off. A drop sitting there for 10+ seconds probably means water is getting behind the screen, probably means say goodbye to your phone as it is about to die.
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I don't think the water just goes through the screen, only entrance I see is through the speaker port

[Guide] Test waterproofing without water!

Hi everyone, this is a copy/paste from Z3 General Forum. All credits to its OP
Bäcker said:
Did you ever wonder if your device is really waterproof but do not want to find that out by dunking it in water?
Here is a test which uses just the phone and it's service mode (or any barometer app).
1. dial *#*#7378423#*#*
2. go to "Service Tests"
3. go to "pressure sensor"
4. slightly compress the phone using your thumb and index finger by pressing on the display and back
SLIGHT PRESSURE. No Berserker mode please! This is not a crush-your-phone contest!
--> if all seals are intact the pressure should rise. Your phone with intact seals is a closed system. If you compress the volume the pressure goes up as a result. If any of the seals is compromised pressure will not rise.
Note: pressure will decrease automatically - that might be a result of the sensor adjusting, it will not go back to it's original value until you relieve the pressure.
credit for the original idea goes to User Alik from the German Android-Hilfe.de forums
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this only works with a pressure sensor (barometer) - does the Z2 have one?

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this only works with a pressure sensor (barometer) - does the Z2 have one?
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yes z2 have pressure/barometer sensor.

then you can use this test for Z2 as well

It works. Pressure rise when pressure applied with closed flaps.
Once I open a flap and again apply pressure then nothing happens. Pressure stays the same. So, mine is waterproof. Yeeey

I tested,
start value: 1009
compress and hold: rise to 1020 and back to 1009.
release: fall to 1005 and back to 1009
It looks like mine has fault?

nariwing said:
I tested,
start value: 1009
compress and hold: rise to 1020 and back to 1009.
release: fall to 1005 and back to 1009
It looks like mine has fault?
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I get the same reading. it starts at 1014 and goes all the way up to 1022 when i touch it with my thumb, but it automatically goes back almost instantly with my finger stilll pressuring on the screen. If i open the flaps, then the sensor's reading wont change. I'm clueless!

Excellent! Thanks for the tip! Everything is perfect with my device!

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I get the same reading. it starts at 1014 and goes all the way up to 1022 when i touch it with my thumb, but it automatically goes back almost instantly with my finger stilll pressuring on the screen. If i open the flaps, then the sensor's reading wont change. I'm clueless!
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It means it's working cause pressure gets stabilized

Same here pressure equalizes after a second. So its not really tight?

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It means it's working cause pressure gets stabilized
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oh ok! thanks! Yay i have a waterproof phone!

nurps said:
Same here pressure equalizes after a second. So its not really tight?
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That's what I wondered, if the pressure goes back to normal that means it's escaping somewhere? Unless it's stretching somewhere else in the phone I guess? But mine does the same, pressure increases then normalises, then drops lower when you let go before returning to the original value. So that means it's water tight?

wow never realized Z2 have this sensor
i remember my Z1 didn't have one, it just said "This feature is not supported"

For me, too, the pressure rises, then falls back to the original pressure. Then if I let go, the pressure falls, then rises back to the original pressure.
However, this is not a meaningful test, although it gives at least a vague indication. The seals are not intended to stop the phone being able to equalize atmospheric pressure with the outside world, they're designed to stop water coming in. Most likely, when the phone is squeezed the increase in pressure pushes the seals out just ever so slightly, leaving a gap through which pressure can slowly correct itself.
A slightly more meaningful test would be to compress the phone with the doors open, then seal the doors with the phone still pressed, and then let go so that the first thing you're doing is creating negative pressure in the phone, not positive pressure.

well maybe thats not a proof ... i bought this device a week ago and from day one i submerged it three times into water to test is it really waterproof or not and yes it has done the job ...
but just trying that pressure test in normal atmosphere it equalizes after a second
while underwater i tested and the pressure increases but doesn't equalize.. so thats the point of waterproofing..
its not air proof !!
hope that could be useful for anyone ... just don't panic if in normal air atmosphere the pressure goes back to normal

My pressure just stayed at 1005. I pressed the screen and I pressed the back nothing changed I think it's because I changed the back plate recently...

naeem123 said:
My pressure just stayed at 1005. I pressed the screen and I pressed the back nothing changed I think it's because I changed the back plate recently...
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No wateproofing for you mate.:/

naeem123 said:
My pressure just stayed at 1005. I pressed the screen and I pressed the back nothing changed I think it's because I changed the back plate recently...
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I've changed mine too but the test works flawlessly

naeem123 said:
My pressure just stayed at 1005. I pressed the screen and I pressed the back nothing changed I think it's because I changed the back plate recently...
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I've changed mine too but the test works flawlessly
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Only one way to find out for real.:cyclops:

stanley08 said:
Only one way to find out for real.:cyclops:
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true, but that is not gonna happen, not least not in my case
all tho I washed it few days ago w/o any problems