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So I just tested the galaxy S3 audio and it dwarfs in comparison to my voodoo sound nexus S audio. So basically it's the same thing again that you need to root the phone install some third party app or install custom kernel to get better audio just like how it was with nexus S. My friend is just a very basic user he hasnt even rooted the phone so it wont be happening. I just really dont understand what is the point of having such an audio chip when samsung is going to put a limit on it's output and the majority of users wont be able to benefit from it. Out of the box an iphone can satisfyingly drive pretty much any earphones, the galaxy S3 volume is just not enough.
Sound "quality and clarity" can only be so much important when the volume isnt enough. So a third party developer can convert the phone into the best phone for audiophiles but samsung cant? Thats just as bizarre as it gets and it continues to happen just like it was with the galaxy S/nexus S.
Guess the volume is enough to not damage your hearing.
About the quality... I find no difference between an ipod and an S3. Seriously now, what do you want from S3? Audio 14.1 with 2 earpieces? Come on, buy a dj professional equipment instead of a S3 if you expect that?
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I "coming from motorola devices", also very disappointed with sound quality on S3 when the first time I got it. But luckily we have awesome dev like gokham who can make the difference. Yes, we are advance user, sure must root it.
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I "coming from motorola devices", also very disappointed with sound quality on S3 when the first time I got it. But luckily we have awesome dev like gokham who can make the difference. Yes, we are advance user, sure must root it.
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Sound quality != volume.
Don't get confused.
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Guess the volume is enough to not damage your hearing.
About the quality... I find no difference between an ipod and an S3. Seriously now, what do you want from S3? Audio 14.1 with 2 earpieces? Come on, buy a dj professional equipment instead of a S3 if you expect that?
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I dont have an ipod but the iphone 4S and my nexus S with voodoo are much louder than the galaxy S3 and donot damage my ears. Different songs need different volume and different earphones also need different volume, my JVC earphones are not very sensitive and need quite alot of volume which the S3 just doesnt have. The iphone and nexus S power it just fine. Mind you a non rooted nexus S also has the same problem so maye google is also incompetent? I dont know it just doesnt make any sense. Iphone lets you increase the volume to ridiculous levels out of the box, nobody complained about damaged ears.
All the sound mods i have met confuse loud for quality and just increase the noise in the sound file .
Compared to many users i experience via headphones loud at stock 5 and far to loud at 7 . That begs a question regarding sound level complaints and suggests that to improve sound level Earex is the first step .
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Yo guys must be nuts cause the sound quality on the S3 is sublime.
yes you have to flash a new kernel but its not hard and the reason why its low volume is to not blast the ears of newbies that buy it.
Install the latest JB leak then flash :Siyah-s3-v1.6rc1.tar via odin.
then enter st tweaks and and go to audio and bump the audio from 57 to 60
then bump the speaker audio from default 0 to 1
then close st tweaks. and you job is done
You can also go into the music app and change the eq from default to dance.
then play some songs and you will hear a world of difference.
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57 itself is loud enough to blast your ears
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If anything I've been working on purely all nexus devices to improve the way users listen to their device and music.
I just wanted to know if anyone can be kind enough to let me know how the N10 fares in general with it's audio quality and what audio chipset does it run.
Ofcourse I've created a test dump for the N10 but I don't know anyone on my side who has an N10. I would like someone to test it since this is the best place to refer to. Rest assured, bootloop free.
Much regards,
Misledz
http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...Exynos_5_Dual_User_Manaul_Public_REV100-0.pdf
Does this help?
In my opinion, it's pretty mediocre. It definitely didn't sound louder to me than the iPad, despite having Stereo out. Disappointing, really.
I can barely hear some movies on the DICE player and I don't know what's causing it. Some other movies are fine.
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http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...Exynos_5_Dual_User_Manaul_Public_REV100-0.pdf
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Hmm it does actually, as usual the audio chipset being the one they cut down to make it cheaper.
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In my opinion, it's pretty mediocre. It definitely didn't sound louder to me than the iPad, despite having Stereo out. Disappointing, really.
I can barely hear some movies on the DICE player and I don't know what's causing it. Some other movies are fine.
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Yeah it seems majority of the Nexus devices suffer this. Infact all at this rate, considering the Nexus S was to involved without Voodoo. :crying:
I think with these newer devicesthe only way to get respectable sound is with Bluetooth or wired external speakers.
I love my ICS phone and listened to the Nexus 7 - great devices. But audio is weak.
What bothers me about the Nexus 10 audio is the speakers.
Even as a kid nothing screamed snake oil to me more than huge grills that hid tiny speaker cones.
That's what you get with Nexus 10 as well.
Behind each grill is one tiny speaker radiator at the top of the grill.
The rest of the long speaker grill is just for looks (or sales)
External speakers all the way
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I think it sounds fine. The speakers on it are actually descent and I have nice headphones so that works fine for me as well.
I've got a test build up for trials. Anyone want to test it before I make the thread in N10 Themes SECTION? Thanks for the feedback, helps improve certain fields.
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I personally think the Nexus 10 sounds pretty good with headphones. I believe it has a Wolfson WM1811 chip.
I have it plugged in with an ATH-m50 and a Fiio E5. Tweaked with the 10-band equalizer from Poweramp, and it sounded pretty good. It's certainly not the best I've listened to (the Cowon S9 sounds better still), but it's good enough to replace my S9 simply because the Nexus is much more hassle free in general.
The sound is definitely missing something though. Not exactly sure what it is.
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I've got a test build up for trials. Anyone want to test it before I make the thread in N10 Themes SECTION? Thanks for the feedback, helps improve certain fields.
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I might suggest you guys follow Misledz! I use his mod on both a GNex & N7. Fantastic. I consider it a must have. Makes anything a pure joy to listen to.
I'll be glad to test. I'm unboxing & rooting today
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I might suggest you guys follow Misledz! I use his mod on both a GNex & N7. Fantastic. I consider it a must have. Makes anything a pure joy to listen to.
I'll be glad to test. I'm unboxing & rooting today! I assure you its safe
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You got an N10? And I have a build. I'll send the test build later in your inbox
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To me the speakers on it are the best I've heard from any tablet since its front facing and it kinda has a slight surround sound effect since there is one speaker on each side of the tablet. Also the volume is loud enough to where nobody should have a problem hearing it and if you do get a hearing aid. The volume isn't so loud you can go deaf but its loud enough to where everyone in the room should be able to hear it.
The speakers sound pretty good with a bit of EQ. CyanogenMod's DSPManager is perfect for this since you can selectively EQ only the speakers.
Headphone quality is even better. Much, much better than the Galaxy Nexus and on par with some of the best Android devices.
Well I've sent a test build to a few members already let's see how that fares with comparison to stock loudness.
But I do thank you for the feedbacks, much appreciated!
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I'm no audiophile, but the Nexus 10 sounds pretty amazing, compared to the other devices and equipment I've used previously anyway.
I like natural-sounding audio without any DSP enhancements like Bass Boost and whatnot
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I'm no audiophile, but the Nexus 10 sounds pretty amazing, compared to the other devices and equipment I've used previously anyway.
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Well it's got quite the chipset. But I'm sure they sacrificed something, Nexus devices usually sacrifice one thing. Audio, or hardware or something.
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Well it's got quite the chipset. But I'm sure they sacrificed something, Nexus devices usually sacrifice one thing. Audio, or hardware or something.
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Maybe the screen? While the resolution is there, the screen itself isn't top-tier beautiful.
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Well it's got quite the chipset. But I'm sure they sacrificed something, Nexus devices usually sacrifice one thing. Audio, or hardware or something.
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I've read here somewhere that the microphone isn't amazing quality.
I wouldn't be surprised if the N10 sound can be improved, but I was actually very pleasantly surprised listening to music, movies, etc on mine, as the sound blows away any other tablet I've used to date, blows away my 15" ASUS laptop (3 different models in our house, none of which sound as good as the stock N10). I've seen a few people complain that the size of the speaker slots is misleading, and somehow implies that the speakers are larger than they really are, as can be seen in tear-down photos. I haven't done any serious homework into this -- but I'm wondering if the elongated speaker grills actually server as vents, effectively turning the housing into a slot-vented speaker cabinet.
How do you plan (in detail) to improve the sound on this tablet? Are you going to just make it louder or actually do tweaks to improve the sound? If you are just making things lower, how do you plan on making it louder? A simple voltage increase? Or something more sophisticated?
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How do you plan (in detail) to improve the sound on this tablet? Are you going to just make it louder or actually do tweaks to improve the sound? If you are just making things lower, how do you plan on making it louder? A simple voltage increase? Or something more sophisticated?
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Tweaks to improve the sound, since as you said the hardware is pretty good, louder is one thing if its needed, else controlled loudness is fine. In terms of libset, voltage increase is pushing it sounds alot more dangerous and doubt it will be tested :victory:
will the Beats By Dr. Dre - Beats Studio work with the gs4?and if so do they sound good?just asking before i spend 300.00 dollars,thanks
Thats a roger on the compatibility.
Beats by dre uses the standard 3.5 mm jack for audio input.
As for the sound...my untrained ears can't hear a difference. They're solid in performance and quality certainly. People swear by them at my university though.
At the $300 price point there are certainly better options on the market. Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's great (case in point iPhone ). That being said it should work fine with your S4 if you decide to get them
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Before you spend $300 do yourself a favor and do some research on head-fi.org.
At least then you will be making an informed decision. Many less expensive options out there with as good or better sound, problem is most people won't know it because all they see is the "beats" logo and assume you bought the best.
Do you want great sounding headphones, or do you want people to THINK you bought good sounding headphones because of a name?
Beats and Bose two of the biggest rip-offs in music. The only one worse is Monster Cable.
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Before you spend $300 do yourself a favor and do some research on head-fi.org.
At least then you will be making an informed decision. Many less expensive options out there with as good or better sound, problem is most people won't know it because all they see is the "beats" logo and assume you bought the best.
Do you want great sounding headphones, or do you want people to THINK you bought good sounding headphones because of a name?
Beats and Bose two of the biggest rip-offs in music. The only one worse is Monster Cable.
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Actually, Beats by Dre were manufactured by Monster up until 2012, so there ya go.
I'm really looking into the Logitech UE 6000's. Everything I read has been good so far. I currently have some Shure SE 215 in-ear monitors and looking to make the jump to a full size headset. The UE 6000's at only $180 are also a great value. If you have the extra money and want some Bluetooth love then look no further then the UE 9000's ($400) from what I've read. Logitech may not be known for their high quality audio but down that lead you astray.
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I use beats studios with my s4 and note 10.1 and the sound is pretty awesome. Not tooo overpowering if you don't want them to be but if you crank it up and pair is with a good equalizer like viper it sounds incredible. Granted I got the beats scratchlesa and like-new secondhand at a fraction of the price so it may sound just a bit better than a $300 pair would but I would recommend going to an electronics store with your s4 and testing out the floor models to see which suits your taste the best. :thumbup:
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Definitely check out Head-fi.org, probably will find a better pair of cans for around the same price or even less.
Don't fall for the fade that is Beats by Dre.
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Ur paying for the beats logos.. Beats studios ar not the best headphones there are.. Much better choices if u look around..
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Do a little research on Audiotechnica ATH-M50 headphones before buying overpriced Beats headphones.
They are better headphones (especially for bass-heavy music and sounds like video games, movies, etc) and cost 30-50% as much as Beats.
Yes they will work
Sound quality...LOL, beats sound like crap for their price. Those who think they sound good have never listened to a quality pair of headphones. They are for looks...and only looks, just like iPhones. There is a reason why beats are never in top ten headphone lists...at least in any top ten list from a respected audio site...
Like said earlier, AudioTechnica M50 are much much better...and cost much much less...and in my opinion still look good, and are pretty damn comfortable. I got mine for $120 (I think they are like $200 regular) on amazon...couldn't be happier...definitely sounds better than any pair of beats I've tried on.
Like others have said...do some more research, you don't want to be that guy walking down the street with a pair of beats thinking he's cool with "good" headphones while all the nearby audiophiles are laughing at your stupidity for wasting money on beats...
-just my opinion...as I do consider my self an audiophile
Look...beats are not in any of these!!! My ATHM50 are in quite a few tho... http://www.google.com/search?site=&...1c.1.16.mobile-gws-hp.QZ0mv46DVJE&safe=active
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I use Klipsh image ONE. Love them.
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Like everybody else said, the only thing you get with Beats is an overblown name. They don't suck buy they are just way overpriced for the sub par quality. Get something like klipsch or koss. Much better choices and they won't cost you an arm and a leg. Also I have used to pretty decent cheapo skull candies before. I wouldn't recommend spending over a 100 bucks on cans unless they were custom in-ear monitors abd those cost about a grand hahaha! Also head fi is a good website like everyone else has been saying
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This probably isn't the place to ask, but I will anyway haha
I bought the Logitech UE 6000 a few days ago and do like them quite a bit, but also liked the Bose qc 15 when I tried them in store. Unfortunately I wasn't able to try the two side by side and only got to try the qc-15 for a few minutes.
Can anyone give a fair review on their impressions of the qc15 in regards to sound, noise cancelling and leakage. If you have any use with the UE 6000 to compare that would be great too
I can get the qc15 brand new for 240-250 w/ tax. Paid 173+$30 warranty + tax for UE 6000 (About $220)
Sorry if drawing off topic. Thanks for your time
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you can find much better for less. my GF has a pair and loves them; i dislike them personally.
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you can find much better for less. my GF has a pair and loves them; i dislike them personally.
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How do you view their noise canceling in comparison to others you have tried?
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Worst value for quality I've ever seen in headphones. Check out some Harmon Kardons, sennheisers, or even Bose. That's a simple starting point
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Worst value for quality I've ever seen in headphones. Check out some Harmon Kardons, sennheisers, or even Bose. That's a simple starting point
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I assume you were responding to the op and not my post above...?
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I assume you were responding to the op and not my post above...?
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Sorry, you are right. I didn't read everyones posts. Just the fact that there is adults that are asking about beats kills me. I work for best buy and it drives me nuts to hear people thinking they are quality. Now I just have to get the same conversion rate as I have from iphones to android to go into beats to anything better haha
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beats are mostly supposed to be used with other BEATS devices; its just an EQ setting. their quality, sound, ergonomics, and value (to real DJ's and audio techs, whom i work with) is laughable at best. sound isolation isnt much different than other OTE units; most of that depends on how loud your music is lol.
Sennheiser HD 25-II for audiophiles for less, or Pioneer HDJ-2000 if you want bass and better quality/ergonomics.
i have both the Sennheiser HD 25-II and HDJ-2000; my GF has some red BEATS pro studios; for her its style; they stand out and match her car/lipstick etc. versus the HD 25 II's by Sennheiser and HDJ2000's, there is no competition. They are designed nicely, but not being able to comfortably use one ear without them sliding, and the fact they are CLEARLY worse aurally, i wont touch them. Other than bass, some $30 Panasonic HTX-7's actually have better fidelity.
So here is my dilemma, I have been able to root every devices I have hair I would not purchase the devices.
Now i have a HTC10, the audio through Bluetooth is not suffice without a mod, viper or otherwise.
So if i purchase a S8 through tmobile I need to figure root won't happen as a worse case scenario. Is the S8 audio good enough for a audio enthusiast to use the device and not have root.
By good enough i mean loud enough, decent bass, and at least avg clarity. Also money is tight enough that buying the international version isn't a possibility, also i need volte and wifi calling b/c of my location.
Appreciate feedback ASAP.
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So here is my dilemma, I have been able to root every devices I have hair I would not purchase the devices.
Now i have a HTC10, the audio through Bluetooth is not suffice without a mod, viper or otherwise.
So if i purchase a S8 through tmobile I need to figure root won't happen as a worse case scenario. Is the S8 audio good enough for a audio enthusiast to use the device and not have root.
By good enough i mean loud enough, decent bass, and at least avg clarity. Also money is tight enough that buying the international version isn't a possibility, also i need volte and wifi calling b/c of my location.
Appreciate feedback ASAP.
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I have used viper on all my phones over the last few years since my galaxy s4.
I have had my s8 for around a month now and don't feel the need for viper. I wouldn't say s8 audio is the best but it's pretty damn good. Also depends on the headphones you use but even with the AKG headphones that come with it it's still pretty decent. It has decent bass and clarity.
It's personal taste I guess :good: but I'm happy as it is
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I have used viper on all my phones over the last few years since my galaxy s4.
I have had my s8 for around a month now and don't feel the need for viper. I wouldn't say s8 audio is the best but it's pretty damn good. Also depends on the headphones you use but even with the AKG headphones that come with it it's still pretty decent. It has decent bass and clarity.
It's personal taste I guess :good: but I'm happy as it is
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Appreciate the feedback. This is definitely what i needed to hear.
Please anyone can comment still please do!!
I have a rooted S8. Without viper sound was good, but bass was too low for me (at least on stock AKG headphones). I prefer electronic music like deep house, edm, drum and bass etc so strong bass is a must for me.
With viper enabled the difference for me is huge, sound is much more alive and dynamic. But if you dont really need strong bass stock clarity is good enough I think, the most difference with viper for me is bass.
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Just tried increasing Viper clarity and listen to some rock songs. Well the difference is big compared to stock. Previously Ive had viper clarity set almost to 0.
Exynos s8 here, audio through 3.5mm jack is good however through bluetooth its abit mute for my taste.
I would say bass is more pronounced than my s7, also the sound is much clearer.however my problem lies with not much high volume. The stock rom is really great when you disable stock samsung apps, that i dnt wana root to avoid the headaches that comes with that ( no recieving ota updates ).
Some ppl here are advising to disable sound alive app and replace with 3rd party ones and claims higher volume limits but again havent had the time to mess with that.
Verdict: exynos s8 sounds good on 3.5mm jack with good bass and just abt enough max volume. however on bluetooth they lack much volume IMO.
Appreciate all the feed back so far!!
You're going to miss viper, period. Get your Tmobile upgrade or whatever and sell it. Use that money to buy the international version.
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You're going to miss viper, period. Get your Tmobile upgrade or whatever and sell it. Use that money to buy the international version.
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Then lose advance calling volte or wifi calling? That's what kills that possiblity for me, i need US radio LTE bands i believe for volte.
Appreciate the feed back as well
Hi all. I currently have an S7 provided by my company on Verizon here in Raleigh NC. but I am just not a Samsung guy.
Wasn't really considering this phone but after the price drop I stopped by the Sprint store tonight to check out the display models. They had 2 on hand. One black and one white. After all the negativity surrounding this phone I wasn't expecting much. I have to say that I came away very impressed. Both units were as speedy and smooth as any phone I have ever seen. On both units the camera launched quickly and took clear photos with plenty of detail in normal and mono mode. No lag, crashes or any other issues with the camera or any other apps. The build number had 16 in it and I know the build number 20 came out that a lot of people are calling a night and day difference. I guess my only concern at this point would be the compatibility with Verizon. Any issues there? I have seen some complaints scattered. Not sure if any of the updates addressed that. Also, how is the audio quality? I have to say the Verizon HD mode gives me really good call quality and I listen to a lot of music on the phone as well so that is important for me. That being said, the music quality on the Samsung is a sore spot. Much worse than my previous phones which have always been rooted and Rom'd with Viper audio.
Anyone have Viper working on an Essential? How is the call and music quality in general? Is Verizon as a carrier a deal breaker?
Thanks in advance.
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Hi all. I currently have an S7 provided by my company on Verizon here in Raleigh NC. but I am just not a Samsung guy.
Wasn't really considering this phone but after the price drop I stopped by the Sprint store tonight to check out the display models. They had 2 on hand. One black and one white. After all the negativity surrounding this phone I wasn't expecting much. I have to say that I came away very impressed. Both units were as speedy and smooth as any phone I have ever seen. On both units the camera launched quickly and took clear photos with plenty of detail in normal and mono mode. No lag, crashes or any other issues with the camera or any other apps. The build number had 16 in it and I know the build number 20 came out that a lot of people are calling a night and day difference. I guess my only concern at this point would be the compatibility with Verizon. Any issues there? I have seen some complaints scattered. Not sure if any of the updates addressed that. Also, how is the audio quality? I have to say the Verizon HD mode gives me really good call quality and I listen to a lot of music on the phone as well so that is important for me. That being said, the music quality on the Samsung is a sore spot. Much worse than my previous phones which have always been rooted and Rom'd with Viper audio.
Anyone have Viper working on an Essential? How is the call and music quality in general? Is Verizon as a carrier a deal breaker?
Thanks in advance.
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I would 100% recommend this phone, especially at its new price. I've been using it on Verizon since released, with no issue. HD voice /VoLTE working fine here. I had it fully functional and configured on my previous phone so I just popped my sim card in and enabled entrance lte in the settings and I was good to go.
The feel, size and build quality are unmatched in my opinion. I like the feel and size better then my Pixel 2 xl tbh. The camera is much better than it was initially, nothing amazing but pretty good overall. The steady updates have certainly been promising and essential has been very transparent with its user base. The biweekly AMAs have been great.
As far as audio, I read the included adapter is actually really high quality producing great sound. The little I used it out sounded great but I don't have any high end headphones any more.
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I would 100% recommend this phone, especially at its new price. I've been using it on Verizon since released, with no issue. HD voice /VoLTE working fine here. I had it fully functional and configured on my previous phone so I just popped my sim card in and enabled entrance lte in the settings and I was good to go.
The feel, size and build quality are unmatched in my opinion. I like the feel and size better then my Pixel 2 xl tbh. The camera is much better than it was initially, nothing amazing but pretty good overall. The steady updates have certainly been promising and essential has been very transparent with its user base. The biweekly AMAs have been great.
As far as audio, I read the included adapter is actually really high quality producing great sound. The little I used it out sounded great but I don't have any high end headphones any more.
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Great, thanks for the information. That alleviates my fears for sure. Just wonder if I will wait for that Ocean color.
I have been using the PH-1 on Verizon for almost a week now with no issues. No phone is built like this one. Love have a big screen in the small form factor. Only thing I had to do was set up Google Voice for voicemail but that is no big deal and it is nice to get the voicemail in a text also.
Tech Crunch puts it up there with the best of them, after the updates.
https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/01/e...deal-in-smartphones-thanks-to-camera-updates/
thanks for the feedback guys, definitely going to pick one of these up