Should I pull the trigger? - Essential Phone Questions & Answers

Hi all. I currently have an S7 provided by my company on Verizon here in Raleigh NC. but I am just not a Samsung guy.
Wasn't really considering this phone but after the price drop I stopped by the Sprint store tonight to check out the display models. They had 2 on hand. One black and one white. After all the negativity surrounding this phone I wasn't expecting much. I have to say that I came away very impressed. Both units were as speedy and smooth as any phone I have ever seen. On both units the camera launched quickly and took clear photos with plenty of detail in normal and mono mode. No lag, crashes or any other issues with the camera or any other apps. The build number had 16 in it and I know the build number 20 came out that a lot of people are calling a night and day difference. I guess my only concern at this point would be the compatibility with Verizon. Any issues there? I have seen some complaints scattered. Not sure if any of the updates addressed that. Also, how is the audio quality? I have to say the Verizon HD mode gives me really good call quality and I listen to a lot of music on the phone as well so that is important for me. That being said, the music quality on the Samsung is a sore spot. Much worse than my previous phones which have always been rooted and Rom'd with Viper audio.
Anyone have Viper working on an Essential? How is the call and music quality in general? Is Verizon as a carrier a deal breaker?
Thanks in advance.

chiadrum said:
Hi all. I currently have an S7 provided by my company on Verizon here in Raleigh NC. but I am just not a Samsung guy.
Wasn't really considering this phone but after the price drop I stopped by the Sprint store tonight to check out the display models. They had 2 on hand. One black and one white. After all the negativity surrounding this phone I wasn't expecting much. I have to say that I came away very impressed. Both units were as speedy and smooth as any phone I have ever seen. On both units the camera launched quickly and took clear photos with plenty of detail in normal and mono mode. No lag, crashes or any other issues with the camera or any other apps. The build number had 16 in it and I know the build number 20 came out that a lot of people are calling a night and day difference. I guess my only concern at this point would be the compatibility with Verizon. Any issues there? I have seen some complaints scattered. Not sure if any of the updates addressed that. Also, how is the audio quality? I have to say the Verizon HD mode gives me really good call quality and I listen to a lot of music on the phone as well so that is important for me. That being said, the music quality on the Samsung is a sore spot. Much worse than my previous phones which have always been rooted and Rom'd with Viper audio.
Anyone have Viper working on an Essential? How is the call and music quality in general? Is Verizon as a carrier a deal breaker?
Thanks in advance.
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I would 100% recommend this phone, especially at its new price. I've been using it on Verizon since released, with no issue. HD voice /VoLTE working fine here. I had it fully functional and configured on my previous phone so I just popped my sim card in and enabled entrance lte in the settings and I was good to go.
The feel, size and build quality are unmatched in my opinion. I like the feel and size better then my Pixel 2 xl tbh. The camera is much better than it was initially, nothing amazing but pretty good overall. The steady updates have certainly been promising and essential has been very transparent with its user base. The biweekly AMAs have been great.
As far as audio, I read the included adapter is actually really high quality producing great sound. The little I used it out sounded great but I don't have any high end headphones any more.

QD2DC said:
I would 100% recommend this phone, especially at its new price. I've been using it on Verizon since released, with no issue. HD voice /VoLTE working fine here. I had it fully functional and configured on my previous phone so I just popped my sim card in and enabled entrance lte in the settings and I was good to go.
The feel, size and build quality are unmatched in my opinion. I like the feel and size better then my Pixel 2 xl tbh. The camera is much better than it was initially, nothing amazing but pretty good overall. The steady updates have certainly been promising and essential has been very transparent with its user base. The biweekly AMAs have been great.
As far as audio, I read the included adapter is actually really high quality producing great sound. The little I used it out sounded great but I don't have any high end headphones any more.
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Great, thanks for the information. That alleviates my fears for sure. Just wonder if I will wait for that Ocean color.

I have been using the PH-1 on Verizon for almost a week now with no issues. No phone is built like this one. Love have a big screen in the small form factor. Only thing I had to do was set up Google Voice for voicemail but that is no big deal and it is nice to get the voicemail in a text also.

Tech Crunch puts it up there with the best of them, after the updates.
https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/01/e...deal-in-smartphones-thanks-to-camera-updates/

thanks for the feedback guys, definitely going to pick one of these up

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Quick comparison of the galaxy sII i777 from an atrix owner

I recently purchased the galaxy sII i777 and been using it for 2 days now. I made a quick comparison video of it.
I am sticking with the Motorola Atrix for now, neither phone is perfect. Galaxy S2 having some pretty nice features over the Atrix.
Samsung Galaxy S2 Pros over the atrix:
Camera - Way better
HDMI Mirror - The hdmi mirroring via MHL looks really great on the screen
Mic quality - Mic quality much much better
What I didnt like -
Those three pros are not enough for me to switch from the Atrix to the Galaxy s2, sure, it has nfc but I will never use that for right now.
Cons of the galaxy s2 are
The screen, such low resolution on a big screen seems like a waste. The Atrix screen is much more practical for web pages, reading etc, which I use my phone for most of the time. The super amoled on the Galaxy s2 is great for movies and images but I will never watch movies that much on a 4.3" screen.
The accessories, one thing motorola did right with atrix was great accessories that you can buy for really cheap right now. Galaxy s2 has a car dock and a desktop dock but they are kinda ugly and phone wont fit with a case on it.
My dream phone would be the atrix with the camera and mic of the sgs2, and the hdmi mirroring quality of the the galaxy s2 but through the HDMI port and not a MHL port.
I agree with most of your flash review.
If mic quality has been such a bad experience for you, you should warranty it out. My coworker and I with Atrix's have never experienced bad voice quality; in fact I have gotten asked if I was on a landline because it was so clear.
Try seeing if you can disable noise cancellation - that may be the culprit. Im on CM7 right now, and I do not see the option, however it might be in the stock firmware. If that doesnt work, wipe and flash a new rom. Warranty it out as a last resort.
All the reviews say the same:
http://www.engadget.com/motorola/atrix-4g-review/
We've come to expect a certainly level of audio quality when it comes to Motorola handsets, and the Atrix does not disappoint. Not only is the earpiece on this phone loud and exceptionally clear, but the speaker on the back delivers crisp, full-bodied audio when listening to music or on a speakerphone call. The Atrix 4G offers variable levels of noise reduction on the earpiece, but we didn't seem to have to tweak anything beyond the "normal" setting for great results. Callers we spoke to said we sounded clear, which is always nice to hear while testing a phone.
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http://www.bgr.com/2011/02/09/motorola-atrix-4g-review/
Talking on the ATRIX was excellent. Calls were very clear with the internal ear speaker sounding very natural, and extremely loud. Noise cancellation also performed well in noisy environments helping people on the other line to hear us more clearly.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/2191...4g_impressive_phone_but_no_genre_breaker.html
I was impressed with the microphone, voice speaker, and voice software in the Atrix. I placed a call from a busy sidewalk at rush hour to a colleague using a land line inside the building, and she reported that my voice was loud, clear, and full-bodied, with only the slightest hint of background traffic noise. Motorola clearly put some money into using high-quality microphones for the Atrix. I suspect that some high-quality noise cancellation software is at work inside the phone, too.
On our 2-minute call, my colleague and I noticed none of the static, drop-outs, or fade normally associated with a weak cell-phone signal.
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http://www.laptopmag.com/review/cellphones/motorola-atrix-4g.aspx?page=8
During our tests, the Atrix 4G provided excellent call quality. Callers reported that our voice was loud and clear, and callers sounded crisp to us as well.
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http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/motorola-atrix-930919/review?artc_pg=3
Call quality is good, with just the right amount of bass in the speaker so that conversations don't sound tinny at your end. Callers reported a clear line and no problems with the quality at the other end, and the phone was able to hold onto a signal in the centre of London while in a moving vehicle.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-atrix-4g-review
Calls sound very good, and for voice services the noise canceling microphone set-up does it's job
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andy2na, I have adjusted all the mic settings as recommended before and nothing really helped over all. I have done all kind of sound recording on both phones and have found the galaxy s2 to be superior. Thats not to say that the Atrix has terrible mic quality, I am just telling you what I have experienced first hand.
shanghei said:
I recently purchased the galaxy sII i777 and been using it for 2 days now. I made a quick comparison video of it.
I am sticking with the Motorola Atrix for now, neither phone is perfect. Galaxy S2 having some pretty nice features over the Atrix.
Samsung Galaxy S2 Pros over the atrix:
Camera - Way better
HDMI Mirror - The hdmi mirroring via MHL looks really great on the screen
Mic quality - Mic quality much much better
What I didnt like -
Those three pros are not enough for me to switch from the Atrix to the Galaxy s2, sure, it has nfc but I will never use that for right now.
Cons of the galaxy s2 are
The screen, such low resolution on a big screen seems like a waste. The Atrix screen is much more practical for web pages, reading etc, which I use my phone for most of the time. The super amoled on the Galaxy s2 is great for movies and images but I will never watch movies that much on a 4.3" screen.
The accessories, one thing motorola did right with atrix was great accessories that you can buy for really cheap right now. Galaxy s2 has a car dock and a desktop dock but they are kinda ugly and phone wont fit with a case on it.
My dream phone would be the atrix with the camera and mic of the sgs2, and the hdmi mirroring quality of the the galaxy s2 but through the HDMI port and not a MHL port.
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I got my Atrix when it first came out and had always the feeling that it is too slow for the hardware that it has. It's a great phone but I think Blur is slowing it down. I unlocked the bootloader and flashed CM7 and it was pretty smooth but I went back to "stock" Atrix blur. After GB for Atrix came out I always had the feeling that the screen is less sensitive if compared to my old MT4G and Nexus S. I tried the SGII and I fell in love. Not because of the SAMOLED. Not a big fan of it but because of the sensitivity of the screen. Pretty similar to the iPhone and it is way snappier. I don't miss the qHD display of the Atrix at all. I miss maybe the form factor because 4.3 of the SGII is the upper limit. A reason why I am not really crazy about the nexus prime with 4.6 and rather bought the SGII. Both are good phones but something is totally messed up with the Atrix screen sensitivity that shouldn't.
mgymnop said:
I got my Atrix when it first came out and had always the feeling that it is too slow for the hardware that it has. It's a great phone but I think Blur is slowing it down. I unlocked the bootloader and flashed CM7 and it was pretty smooth but I went back to "stock" Atrix blur. After GB for Atrix came out I always had the feeling that the screen is less sensitive if compared to my old MT4G and Nexus S. I tried the SGII and I fell in love. Not because of the SAMOLED. Not a big fan of it but because of the sensitivity of the screen. Pretty similar to the iPhone and it is way snappier. I don't miss the qHD display of the Atrix at all. I miss maybe the form factor because 4.3 of the SGII is the upper limit. A reason why I am not really crazy about the nexus prime with 4.6 and rather bought the SGII. Both are good phones but something is totally messed up with the Atrix screen sensitivity that shouldn't.
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The more I have been using the sgs2 the more im starting to like it.
The at&t site shows the phone under 3g but not 4g.... Is that true?
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Nevermind. If you click 4g only it doesn't show up but when you find it under new phones....It says 3g. LOL. And it does have HSPA with backhaul.
Good Stuff and info!
Another dual owner here. I got the Atrix after the gingerbread update to replace a captivate. I bought it outright and it came loaded with 2.3.4. I still had my upgrade so I picked up the SGSII on launch day. I will go a few more weeks before deciding on whether the SGSII is "upgrade worthy". I am keeping my Atrix regardless. I have not rooted since my captivate so the custom ROM's etc do not affect my usage. Would probably not use the HMDI etc since I have enough devices to play on my TV without using my phone.
Some quick impressions on advantages over the other:
Atrix-
GPS is faster and dead on accurate
Screen resolution, took a while to get used to it, but I like it
Battery life! 30+% longer for my usage than SGSII
Better Bluetooth with My Audi Q5 than SGSII. Not sure why, but I have dropped several more calls with the SGSII than my Atrix.
Build quality, just feel more solid
Updates. I understand the Atrix has been updated 4 time since launch
SGSII-
Touchwiz is tons better than motoblur in terms of integration and widgets. I use launcher pro but have been able to go a day on touch wiz which I have not done on blur. I hate that you have to have a blur account and sign back into it every time I switch my SIM from one to the other or when you just use on wifi without SIM card.
Camera. For all the reason shown in this thread. Pictures and Video.
Samsung stock extras- Such as settings on notification toolbar.
I get a 2500+ on quadrant for the Atrix and 3500+ on the SGSII but I have yet to see any practical differences when using the phones.
If I had to pick right now I would take the SGSII back and wait to see what is coming after the new year. I will try another two weeks before making up my mind.
Just my .02 cents!
Little help
I'm new on Android subject.
I like to know how you mirrored video stream on Atrix.
Thankz.
Native7i said:
I'm new on Android subject.
I like to know how you mirrored video stream on Atrix.
Thankz.
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Development section
Thankz man, can I have link?
i'm now on Infuse

5x - Hugely Disappointed

I recently went out of my way to purchase a 5x (MDA89E) by driving 40 odd miles to a carphonewarehouse store that I knew had it in stock (after having called them). Yes I'm crazy, but I just LOVED the nexus 5, even though I had my main gripes and complaints and issues with different production models etc, I did eventually manage to obtain a model that was perfect.
But anyhow, I have been thoroughly excited since the news of the 5x. But once having used the device for the most part of 2.5 days, I'm hugely disappointed.
The same magic android experience I felt immediately with the nexus 5 just is not there with the nexus 5x. It feels incredibly cheap and plastic, and the finish is not as precise or robust feeling as the Nexus 5. The black model doesn't have the same matt back as the nexus 5.
I am very pleased with the screen and the finger print sensor is rapid and the camera is better than the nexus 5, but apart from that, everything else is sub bar.
This is the first ever google android device that I have EVER owned whereby I have experienced a laggy experience and lag in general.
I never experienced any lag on the nexus 4, nexus 5 or the nexus 6. But the 5x, I am experiencing strange frequent lag, even whilst just generally surfing the net using chrome.
The webpages stutter, the scrolling from top to bottom on a webpage frequently lags and I am completely unsatisfied with the experience as a whole. Switching between certain apps like the camera app and the snapspeed app, I experience a strange delay for a few seconds.
I have compared this to the same apps on my nexus 5 and my nexus 6 and unfortunately I am yet to experience any lag at all. Not a single experience.
My second major complaint with the handset is the Audio.
Google and LG should be embarrassed with the Audio they have incorporated into the nexus 5x, and to be quite frank, it is unacceptable. The Audio is incredibly tinny and low powered, even worse than the nexus 5.
Plugging in headphones makes it even worse. My nexus 5 is louder with headphones plugged in.
Again, let me reiterate that this is completely unacceptable, considering handsets like the Motorola moto g (2015) and the moto x play have superb audio and are also priced cheaper. (I know the screens arent as good as the 5x and they don't have a finger print sensor, but my family members have both, and the android experience on these handsets have been sublime). Though incredibly underpowered compared to the 5x, they run smoother after a comparison last night!?!??!!!
I know this 5x is classified as a cheaper alternative to cater to the budget market, but £340 is not cheap, when the moto g is priced at £149.99 and the moto x play priced at £279.99 (argos).
I really feel google is not catering to the main element of owning a smartphone, and that is the media experience.
And I will also add that they aren't even catering to the main functionality of a phone itself, which is the actual call quality, which again, is abysmal and unacceptable for a device that is priced at £340.00. I can barely increase the volume enough to hear the other person in a call, and everybody I have spoken to during a call has asked me why i sound muffled??
I'm sorry to be sounding negative, but I was expecting a step up from the nexus 5, Not a step down with a better screen and an added fingerprint sensor.
This is unacceptable and I am contemplating returning the device. Hugely disappointing and totally unexpected from google.
When the nexus 5 was released, it had, at the time, the best specs at an extremely competitive price.
The 5x is mid range specs, a good screen and a finger print sensor/camera, but a regression in usability and functionality. I cannot use this phone for media. To watch or listen to music and videos etc during my daily commute or to have important telephone conversations in a public environment. If Im in a closed room with no other noise around, then yes, it is just about acceptable, but even low for smartphone standards.
I guess I wouldn't complain as much if everything was flowing utterly smooth like I expect from a google stock android device, but it isn’t. It doesn't. I have no idea why.
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I recently went out of my way to purchase a 5x (MDA89E) by driving 40 odd miles to a carphonewarehouse store that I knew had it in stock (after having called them). Yes I'm crazy, but I just LOVED the nexus 5, even though I had my main gripes and complaints and issues with different production models etc, I did eventually manage to obtain a model that was perfect.
But anyhow, I have been thoroughly excited since the news of the 5x. But once having used the device for the most part of 2.5 days, I'm hugely disappointed.
The same magic android experience I felt immediately with the nexus 5 just is not there with the nexus 5x. It feels incredibly cheap and plastic, and the finish is not as precise or robust feeling as the Nexus 5. The black model doesn't have the same matt back as the nexus 5.
I am very pleased with the screen and the finger print sensor is rapid and the camera is better than the nexus 5, but apart from that, everything else is sub bar.
This is the first ever google android device that I have EVER owned whereby I have experienced a laggy experience and lag in general.
I never experienced any lag on the nexus 4, nexus 5 or the nexus 6. But the 5x, I am experiencing strange frequent lag, even whilst just generally surfing the net using chrome.
The webpages stutter, the scrolling from top to bottom on a webpage frequently lags and I am completely unsatisfied with the experience as a whole. Switching between certain apps like the camera app and the snapspeed app, I experience a strange delay for a few seconds.
I have compared this to the same apps on my nexus 5 and my nexus 6 and unfortunately I am yet to experience any lag at all. Not a single experience.
My second major complaint with the handset is the Audio.
Google and LG should be embarrassed with the Audio they have incorporated into the nexus 5x, and to be quite frank, it is unacceptable. The Audio is incredibly tinny and low powered, even worse than the nexus 5.
Plugging in headphones makes it even worse. My nexus 5 is louder with headphones plugged in.
Again, let me reiterate that this is completely unacceptable, considering handsets like the Motorola moto g (2015) and the moto x play have superb audio and are also priced cheaper. (I know the screens arent as good as the 5x and they don't have a finger print sensor, but my family members have both, and the android experience on these handsets have been sublime). Though incredibly underpowered compared to the 5x, they run smoother after a comparison last night!?!??!!!
I know this 5x is classified as a cheaper alternative to cater to the budget market, but £340 is not cheap, when the moto g is priced at £149.99 and the moto x play priced at £279.99 (argos).
I really feel google is not catering to the main element of owning a smartphone, and that is the media experience.
And I will also add that they aren't even catering to the main functionality of a phone itself, which is the actual call quality, which again, is abysmal and unacceptable for a device that is priced at £340.00. I can barely increase the volume enough to hear the other person in a call, and everybody I have spoken to during a call has asked me why i sound muffled??
I'm sorry to be sounding negative, but I was expecting a step up from the nexus 5, Not a step down with a better screen and an added fingerprint sensor.
This is unacceptable and I am contemplating returning the device. Hugely disappointing and totally unexpected from google.
When the nexus 5 was released, it had, at the time, the best specs at an extremely competitive price.
The 5x is mid range specs, a good screen and a finger print sensor/camera, but a regression in usability and functionality. I cannot use this phone for media. To watch or listen to music and videos etc during my daily commute or to have important telephone conversations in a public environment. If Im in a closed room with no other noise around, then yes, it is just about acceptable, but even low for smartphone standards.
I guess I wouldn't complain as much if everything was flowing utterly smooth like I expect from a google stock android device, but it isn’t. It doesn't. I have no idea why.
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I find it interesting that your review of this device is different from all the reviews I have heard. Maybe you could have a faulty device or preproduction OS? Just seems odd, I will keep my eyes out for more people to confirm but I have heard the opposite from so many people.
Thanks for the review
Thanks for the update.
If the call quality is really like this, then I will be also considering returning it... Most of the reviews were saying that the call quality is OK, I think I found one that were complaining about it...
I have ordered the 5X and cancelled more times than I am going to admit. Right now I am waiting. It seems like maybe this device would be good if you're coming from a Nexus 4 but if you currently own a Nexus 5 or 6 it really isn't much of an upgrade...certainly not worth $430. Hopefully Google goes with a smaller premium model next year.
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I have ordered the 5X and cancelled more times than I am going to admit. Right now I am waiting. It seems like maybe this device would be good if you're coming from a Nexus 4 but if you currently own a Nexus 5 or 6 it really isn't much of an upgrade...certainly not worth $430. Hopefully Google goes with a smaller premium model next year.
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You too? Mine is more than a dozen
But my last order locked into processing right away, and ill have it tomorrow. Going to be comparing it with my 96gb Moto X Pure.
My order is currently cancelled (for "only" the 2nd time) and I have been wary about the published reviews that are lukewarm at best. I guess what I'd really like is a 6p the size of the 5x. Have to wait and see more reviews on the forums...
joshuadjohnson22 said:
I find it interesting that your review of this device is different from all the reviews I have heard. Maybe you could have a faulty device or preproduction OS? Just seems odd, I will keep my eyes out for more people to confirm but I have heard the opposite from so many people.
Thanks for the review
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Droid Life compared the 5X to the 6P on their podcast, and said the 5X was noticeably more laggy than the 6P, and when double tapping the power button the launch the camera, it took significantly longer to do so on the 5X. They also mentioned battery life is average.
Maybe i could have a faulty unit. I remember the nexus 5 early production units had a few screen issues etc.
But i never remember ever experiencing lag on any previous nexus devices. This doesn't feel like a nexus buttery smooth device. It feels more similar to a device that is using a marshmallow stock rom.
I don't mean to be super critical, but the nexus 5 was a really amazing pure android butter smooth rapid fast lag free experience. I still love that phone, even to this day! Just because of the responsiveness and speed, it sort of cancelled out the negatives of the poor battery life etc
But my experience with the 5x isn't the same. It's not smooth and stutter free like how I've come to associate nexus devices to be.
Do you think I should request an exchange to see if it just isn't my unit or should I run a full reset and install everything again. This is the third day with the device, but frankly, I just feel a bit let down.
Maybe I should have been patient and just waited for the 6p, but the form factor of the nexus 5x is what i find hugely appealing.
I won't deny, the finger print sensor is first class. It's so rapid and class leading. The screen is vibrant and nice. Colors appear in great contrast, but not over saturated and vivid compared to the nexus 6 amo screen.
The camera is a huge step up.
But, for example, the vibration motor is really weak. They should have improved this. They should have improved the audio/media sound quality and the call audio quality. It makes sense if other cheaper alternatives can, why cant google?
Even lg's budget lg g3s and g4s have really decent audio and sound/call quality, as do the moto g, and moto play and especially the moto style.
Audio is hugely important, as is sound quality and call sound quality. This is what makes the media experience immersive when using a smartphone. I don't expect htc m8 or nexus 6 speaker quality, but then i don't expect quality so sub bar, that it's neigh on embarrasing, for a handset valued by google at £340.
I have just read a thread about using the phone with the charger plugged in causes lag.. I have been doing this but only in the morning and the evening. Not during my commute.
I really need to decide whether i should exchange or just return.
But overall, this doesn't feel like the usual nexus magic I've become so used to.
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Droid Life compared the 5X to the 6P on their podcast, and said the 5X was noticeably more laggy than the 6P, and when double tapping the power button the launch the camera, it took significantly longer to do so on the 5X. They also mentioned battery life is average.
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All reports that I've seen show that opening the camera on the 5x is laggy. Everything else seems to be smooth.
robstunner said:
You too? Mine is more than a dozen
But my last order locked into processing right away, and ill have it tomorrow. Going to be comparing it with my 96gb Moto X Pure.
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I can also tell, even by looking at the 6P, that all the emphasis on design, software, user experience etc has been directed towards this model as opposed to the 5x, which is a total shame. Its like those who prefer the small form factor are literally ostracized and classed as second class citizens with a marked down substandard experience.
The 6P will undoubtedly offer the truer next gen nexus android experience. I can tell, it will be totally smooth as silk and lag free
Coming from an S6 edge, I don't have any complaints about my Nexus 5X not being smooth and feeling fast.
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Coming from an S6 edge, I don't have any complaints about my Nexus 5X not being smooth and feeling fast.
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That doesn't surprise me! touch wiz is just generally awful. Any nexus device would be a huge improvement on that front!
But can you honestly say you're not taken back by the lackluster sound quality/audio and the call quality of the 5x in comparison to the s6 edge? the quality of the vibration on the vibration motor?
Hi
withdrawn said:
Maybe i could have a faulty unit. I remember the nexus 5 early production units had a few screen issues etc.
But i never remember ever experiencing lag on any previous nexus devices. This doesn't feel like a nexus buttery smooth device. It feels more similar to a device that is using a marshmallow stock rom.
I don't mean to be super critical, but the nexus 5 was a really amazing pure android butter smooth rapid fast lag free experience. I still love that phone, even to this day! Just because of the responsiveness and speed, it sort of cancelled out the negatives of the poor battery life etc
But my experience with the 5x isn't the same. It's not smooth and stutter free like how I've come to associate nexus devices to be.
Do you think I should request an exchange to see if it just isn't my unit or should I run a full reset and install everything again. This is the third day with the device, but frankly, I just feel a bit let down.
Maybe I should have been patient and just waited for the 6p, but the form factor of the nexus 5x is what i find hugely appealing.
I won't deny, the finger print sensor is first class. It's so rapid and class leading. The screen is vibrant and nice. Colors appear in great contrast, but not over saturated and vivid compared to the nexus 6 amo screen.
The camera is a huge step up.
But, for example, the vibration motor is really weak. They should have improved this. They should have improved the audio/media sound quality and the call audio quality. It makes sense if other cheaper alternatives can, why cant google?
Even lg's budget lg g3s and g4s have really decent audio and sound/call quality, as do the moto g, and moto play and especially the moto style.
Audio is hugely important, as is sound quality and call sound quality. This is what makes the media experience immersive when using a smartphone. I don't expect htc m8 or nexus 6 speaker quality, but then i don't expect quality so sub bar, that it's neigh on embarrasing, for a handset valued by google at £340.
I have just read a thread about using the phone with the charger plugged in causes lag.. I have been doing this but only in the morning and the evening. Not during my commute.
I really need to decide whether i should exchange or just return.
But overall, this doesn't feel like the usual nexus magic I've become so used to.
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It always surprises me how people complain about the audio on smartphones. It is impossible for any smart phone to have good audio when you have a speaker the size of an M&M, it's simple physics, they are all just degrees of rubbish really. That's why they have a headphone socket and Bluetooth, so we have options to stream to a speaker that stands some chance of providing full range sound :good:
In terms of performance, worth trying a reset, but you may have a faulty phone, could you try one in a phone shop and see how they compare? I can see no difference in performance between mine and the older 5, the speed is mostly governed by the animations and both phones are slowed down enough navigating around by the "smoothness" that CPU speed differences really isn't noticeable in use. You could have a super computer running Marshmellow and it would still be the same speed due to the animations. If you really want a performance boost pop into Developer settings and turn of the animations, it's miles faster then, but then the 'butter smoothness' is gone. Funny how Google have made slowing down the UI something we perceive as better performance.
Hope you get your issues sorted out.
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Phil
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Coming from an S6 edge, I don't have any complaints about my Nexus 5X not being smooth and feeling fast.
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It always surprises me how people complain about the audio on smartphones. It is impossible for any smart phone to have good audio when you have a speaker the size of an M&M, it's simple physics, they are all just degrees of rubbish really. That's why they have a headphone socket and Bluetooth, so we have options to stream to a speaker that stands some chance of providing full range sound :good:
In terms of performance, worth trying a reset, but you may have a faulty phone, could you try one in a phone shop and see how they compare? I can see no difference in performance between mine and the older 5, the speed is mostly governed by the animations and both phones are slowed down enough navigating around by the "smoothness" that CPU speed differences really isn't noticeable in use. You could have a super computer running Marshmellow and it would still be the same speed due to the animations. If you really want a performance boost pop into Developer settings and turn of the animations, it's miles faster then, but then the 'butter smoothness' is gone. Funny how Google have made slowing down the UI something we perceive as better performance.
Hope you get your issues sorted out.
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Phil
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When I'm talking about the sound quality, I am literally talking about the quality of headphones plugged into the device. Its so embarrassingly low on the 5x its unbelievable that google and lg would see this as fit for purpose when it obviously is not.
I just got mine and I am superbly disappointed of it comparing to my Galaxy S6. Anyone compared the 5X to the 6P yet in terms of OS performance, speaker quality, camera, etc?
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I just got mine and I am superbly disappointed of it comparing to my Galaxy S6. Anyone compared the 5X to the 6P yet in terms of OS performance, speaker quality, camera, etc?
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What are you disappointed with? The S6 is a much higher level phone than the 5X so I would expect it to be a downgrade in almost everything but software. I don't think Google has shipped at 6P's yet to end users to compare.
It's kinda funny that people are saying it feels and looks cheap. People must forget what others said about the nexus 5 when it came out.. That it looked boring, cheap, that nothing about it stood out.. I mean after the beautiful nexus 4 people were expecting a 5 that was premium like the 4.. And look what happened... That became the most loved nexus of them all so far..
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It's kinda funny that people are saying it feels and looks cheap. People must forget what others said about the nexus 5 when it came out.. That it looked boring, cheap, that nothing about it stood out.. I mean after the beautiful nexus 4 people were expecting a 5 that was premium like the 4.. And look what happened... That became the most loved nexus of them all so far..
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Trust me when I say that the phone is hard plastic. Like literally.
The moto X play feels more premium and that's a cheaper handset.
The nexus 5 wasn't as aesthetically pleasing to the eye like the nexus 4, but holding the nexus 5, it felt nice, especially the soft touch matte back.
The 5x is just straight up hard plastic.
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4 times here too, and twice with the 6p. Still have the 6p coming through......unless I cancel again [emoji4]
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Tell me why I should buy the Axon Mini

Hello to all,
I've been eyeing this device and while I want the Sony Xperia X, something tells me to abandon that ship and buy the Axon Mini 7. Tell me guys what would be your top three most liked things about this device and why. Aside from the obvious of course. I've heard the sound is amazing for one. Tell my or let me know what I'm about to buy this week. It's one Android that I've yet to test out nor have I tested it in a store or laid eyes on it in person. Help is much appreciated.
Dconn1975 said:
Hello to all,
I've been eyeing this device and while I want the Sony Xperia X, something tells me to abandon that ship and buy the Axon Mini 7. Tell me guys what would be your top three most liked things about this device and why. Aside from the obvious of course. I've heard the sound is amazing for one. Tell my or let me know what I'm about to buy this week. It's one Android that I've yet to test out nor have I tested it in a store or laid eyes on it in person. Help is much appreciated.
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Dear Undecided
I have had this device since Christmas and use it as my daily device. Here are a few reasons why I love it and was glad to have jumped boat from HTC (The M9).
The first big thing is the sound quality, it sounds amazing in the palm of your hand. My wife has the Galaxy S7 edge and yes, that phone is loud, but not clear and not stereo and poor for using for media not through headphones. The Dolby Atmos is perfect and can be tuned to your own liking.
The second best thing is the fact that it works brilliantly with most if not all apps from the play store. It's a good device and will soon be upgraded to Android 7.1.1 Nougat so it will be running the most up-to-date software.
Third thing is the options of alternative​ launchers. In my opinion, this device seems to want to customised. The software blends well with all the launcher's I've tested (and trust me I've put them all though their paces)
Now to tell you about the cons.
Battery isn't that amazing but will last a good day with medium usage. It will die quickly with heavy graphics games and powerful hi Def video. But this is quashed with the fact the power brick with the device charges it dam quickly. Take that if you put the device in charge at say 20% and go have dinner, it will be at least up to 90% by the time youve eaten.
The processor can be slow sometimes but that's all I can say having never had any issues with it. Seems to run just fine with me.
Memory is upgradable via a micro SD card and it supports up to 128gb extra (rumoured to extend to 512gb with the update)
Its a really excellent and well designed device...personally in my opinion, so much better then it's competition and so deserving of much more attention and exposure. Get this over the Sony any day.
That's what I needed to hear! Get this one over the Sony any day plus that the software is smooth. Then there is that premium sound. I know the battery life isn't going to be like my Moto Z Play so I'm prepared for that. That's exactly what I was after and you helped me decide on getting it. I appreciate you brother.
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That's what I needed to hear! Get this one over the Sony any day plus that the software is smooth. Then there is that premium sound. I know the battery life isn't going to be like my Moto Z Play so I'm prepared for that. That's exactly what I was after and you helped me decide on getting it. I appreciate you brother.
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Mind that you still cannot root it /unlock BL
Great phone but has hiccups.
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Dconn1975 said:
Hello to all,
I've been eyeing this device and while I want the Sony Xperia X, something tells me to abandon that ship and buy the Axon Mini 7. Tell me guys what would be your top three most liked things about this device and why. Aside from the obvious of course. I've heard the sound is amazing for one. Tell my or let me know what I'm about to buy this week. It's one Android that I've yet to test out nor have I tested it in a store or laid eyes on it in person. Help is much appreciated.
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Had my axon 7 mini about four weeks now and installed the firmware upgrade shortly after opening the box.
Whilst this is possibly one of the best phones available at the moment it does "or at least mine" have a few hiccups, first the screen froze displaying a picture of the web page I was viewing, it was several hours before I managed to get the phone to reboot, this has happened again twice.
Another hiccup is the phone will randomly reboot, I was texting when this happened the first time since then it has rebooted itself twice whilst no action was taking place I.e just sitting on the table.
Called their hotline "not in uk" advice is it could be an app issue, but ALL apps are optimised on boot up, next backup, factory and reinstall, can't see that working, if it's an app problem you're just re-installing the problem.
Apart from that it's a great phone.
Stock camera app is better than the other camera app I have purchased from the store, no bloatware and only essential apps installed.
I purchased this phone from Amazon (Im in the UK)
Owned the phone for 6 months now,
Here is my long review.
The Axon 7 Mini overall is a great phone for the price I paid for, there are Lots of pros and lots of cons with this phone.
- It has a beautiful 5.2 inch screen which is enjoyable to use, very responsive and no problems at all.
-The fingerprint scanner at the back is honestly one of the best scanners I have personally used, sometimes (Very little) it likes to play about such as if I am at the gym and very sweaty, it will not recognise my fingers (Not a big deal for me though) but overall a great scanner.
- The look and feel of the phone is beautiful, I have had some compliments from friends who ask me what phone it is and Then they like to hold it and touch it. The phone itself feels very strong and looks fantastic, it really does stand out from other phones especially with front facing Speakers!
- The Speakers on the phone are one of the loudest speakers on a phone out on the market today, If I am watching a video and the volume is half way, it is Still very loud for me which I love!, it uses Dolby Atmos which sounds crystal clear once turned on (Although their are disadvantages which I will discuss later) Listening to music is great on this device.
-The selfie and the back camera on this phone are great in daylight conditions but when light starts to get darker they are not so great. the selfie camera is a great quality camera if you are out and about and there is plenty of daylight, no lag at all, beautiful quality, same with the back, but when it comes to evening and night time, that's when the camera's really lack quality, The pictures aren't the best which is all I can say although ZTE Released an update I believe in January which included a Night mode setting which isn't really great. I would not recommend this phone if anyone is interested in mainly picture taking. If, like me you like to take pictures with friends out and about then and now, then This camera is good enough.
-The interface of the phone is Great to use, it has lots of gestures and motions to play around with, this includes answering calls by laying your finger on the scanner, speech volume control on videos (Do not use it) glove mode (Which honestly is fantastic!) and more!
-At first when I started using this phone, completely no jitter or no lag at all, once I started downloading apps and using more RAM that's when the phone starts to act up, freeze or even shuts down apps (Which I really hate!) This doesn't happen all the time but it is starting to happen more especially with Facebook and Snapchat.
-Voice quality is excellent, nothing bad to say, does what it is meant to do
-It has the option of fitting 2 sim cards, or 1 sim card and 1 SD Card (which is my option).
- The battery isn't great, although the phone comes with fast charging which I cannot complain about! I regularly use the phone day to day (not too heavy) and I am confident I do not have to take my charger with me, usually listening to music, using Facebook, WhatsApp, Snapchat and a few more apps. Although if you are a heavy user of this phone, I do recommend taking your charger with you everywhere you go. in terms of battery levels this is probably the worst phone I have owned.
-The phone I believe still has some bugs in it, this includes using Dolby Atmos, I like to use my bass higher in my music but when I do, the slider resets to 50%, everything resets after either locking the phone or closing the Dolby atmos app (Not impressed!)
My final statement is that if you can afford to purchase the bigger brother (Axon 7) then honestly go for that one, more RAM, 2K Screen, better snapdragon processor, you name it. I was on a tight budget which is Why I purchased this phone but still a great purchase.
Honestly I could go on forever about this phone.
half decent phone but with snail pace updates

Long term Pixel opinion?

What's your opinion of this phone now that it's been out for more than six months?
Build quality, development, etc.
Compared to previous phones or compared to whatever your expectations might have been.
Me?
I'm sorry to say that I wish I never left my Moto X Pure with BrokenOS' MarshMallow ROM.
Pixel is great though, in many ways.
It was a much needed update from my aging Nexus 6.
Was briefly contemplating iPhone, but stuck with the Pixel.
Overall, I love the camera, the battery is a champ, and so far I feel no need or want to modify the device.
I think google did well with this one.
Let's hope LG doesn't botch the next one.
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What's your opinion of this phone now that it's been out for more than six months?
Build quality, development, etc.
Compared to previous phones or compared to whatever your expectations might have been.
Me?
I'm sorry to say that I wish I never left my Moto X Pure with BrokenOS' MarshMallow ROM.
Pixel is great though, in many ways.
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It's the cherry ? bomb. Like all my Google phones.
Unprecedented battery life.
Fast as Lightning (Especially w/sdcardfs)
No cracks or damage.
Best reception I have ever had.
Extremely challenging to hack. Very easy once you have the slots and Google stops playing games. Lol
Speaker sucks. But I can live with it.
Never have and never will buy anything but a Google phone.
I can go on and on.....
BTW Moto Rocks!
I came from an S5 so anything would have been an upgrade for me. So this thing is screaming fast to me
I bought the phone after I had to send my Note 7 back. I liked it, but didn't keep it long. I've been through a few different phones in the meantime, but finally came back. It's faster than any phone I've used, and still feels really solid, and good in the hand
I came from a N6 as well. I miss the stereo speakers and the bigger screen size of the N6.
The positives of Pixel are the speed, battery life and the general smoothness of the phone.
The cons are pathetic speakers (What was google thinking?), huge bezels (which I find hard to digest coming from a lesser bezel N6) and the lack of development. On my N6 I had flashed almost 10 custom ROMs at different times.
There is hardly much choice for Pixel XL other than a handful ROMs. Perhaps the high price of the phone and the slot rigmarole turns off developers here.
I'm happy with the Pixel , but it was close to $900 and I just feel that I did not get my money's worth. That said, I can't deal with non-Google phones. Was thinking about a One Plus 5, but that's about it. Hopefully Google does something nicer with Pixel XL2.
I love stock Android and EAS is the best thing to happen to Android but..
Just can't justify the price for what you get. I'm a big Audio guy and the speaker is worst I've heard along with 3.5mm jack just sounds awful..
have to run an External DAC to make up for the poor quality
Video recording seems a bit meh blury/grainy no matter what I can't take a clear video unless it's in direct sunlight and then have to deal with the *Lense Flare* another pain in the ass
Rest of the phone is good
Development it's pretty much none existent seems like if you want roms/kernel's either stick with a 6P or OnePlus/Other China device
But I feel like it should of been priced at same as the 6P $440 we only got minor improvements nothing "WOW" to make up for the $300 extra..
I guess we paid for that "Made By Google" bs marketing. Also was never in stock anywhere + the hardware issues drove people away lets hope HTC isn't making again so we can have a great launch and hopefully bring people back :good:
liam_davenport said:
I love stock Android and EAS is the best thing to happen to Android but..
Just can't justify the price for what you get. I'm a big Audio guy and the speaker is worst I've heard along with 3.5mm jack just sounds awful..
have to run an External DAC to make up for the poor quality
Video recording seems a bit meh blury/grainy no matter what I can't take a clear video unless it's in direct sunlight and then have to deal with the *Lense Flare* another pain in the ass
Rest of the phone is good
Development it's pretty much none existent seems like if you want roms/kernel's either stick with a 6P or OnePlus/Other China device
But I feel like it should of been priced at same as the 6P $440 we only got minor improvements nothing "WOW" to make up for the $300 extra..
I guess we paid for that "Made By Google" bs marketing. Also was never in stock anywhere + the hardware issues drove people away lets hope HTC isn't making again so we can have a great launch and hopefully bring people back :good:
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I do miss the value days of the Nexus program. Minus Shamu of course. That was expensive. When I bought those Nexus, I felt like I was getting an incredible value for a smartphone.
Here is something I truly value and want everyone to think about.
How much is it worth to us for,
Monthly security updates
Major OS upgrades for two years
Bugfixes along the way
I'll tell you by saying what I've chosen as my daily driver and where my SIM card is and what's in my pocket right now. I've had marlin since Nov '16 and iPhone 7 plus since Jan '17. The marlin is in my pocket right now. The iPhone 7 plus is a great device (iMessages, waterproof) but the reason I love android is the ability to modify (stock or ROM-root-kernel) and access to that SD Card. Otherwise the 2 are pretty much equal as to camera, battery, speed, smoothness, response to touches, etc. at least in my perception. So, obviously I'm very pleased with marlin since I prefer it to a very popular alternative. Had a Samsung Galaxy S7 in early 2016 but sold it after 2 months, Pixel much better device to me.
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I came from a N6 as well. I miss the stereo speakers and the bigger screen size of the N6.
The positives of Pixel are the speed, battery life and the general smoothness of the phone.
The cons are pathetic speakers (What was google thinking?), huge bezels (which I find hard to digest coming from a lesser bezel N6) and the lack of development. On my N6 I had flashed almost 10 custom ROMs at different times.
There is hardly much choice for Pixel XL other than a handful ROMs. Perhaps the high price of the phone and the slot rigmarole turns off developers here.
I'm happy with the Pixel , but it was close to $900 and I just feel that I did not get my money's worth. That said, I can't deal with non-Google phones. Was thinking about a One Plus 5, but that's about it. Hopefully Google does something nicer with Pixel XL2.
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Agreed 100%. Thats why i skipped this one looking forward to the next one. For the price it must have stereo speaker, better audio, water resist, better design and quality. Oh and wireless charging. Then i will jump right in.
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Six month user here. And my main complaint for the Pixel remains exactly same as it was back when I bought it. The sudden freezing problem. Just out of nowhere the screen freezes for a second or two, if I am playing a game, then its done, simply over, have to restart, and I can't express how much I hate that. Of course its most noticeable/affecting while gaming, but it happens basically everywhere too, but just less frustrating in other places.
I was advised to format the phone, not root it and blah blah but exact same happened there too, without installing any apps at all! Ridiculous problem and IMHO the most annoying issue Pixels have.
Other than this, I don't know, sometimes the low light photos come with a really weird greenish cast, completely off coloured and way too much noise (yeah with HDR+ On, that's the only one I use anyway) etc.
But other than these two, I have no complaints. Tremendous call quality, more than acceptable display (though still no Apple!), excellent GPS (though Google Maps says to calibrate compass every now and then), buttery smooth interface all around most times, at max volume the loudspeaker is excellent (though at half volume it can't be heard and equally ****e!), really low SAR value etc., I am contemplating the U11 now, just for the sound and camera, but if I don't go that route I am gonna keep this phone for at least two years, and the maximum I have ever used a mobile phone was for 15 months, the Galaxy S2 back in the days, should suffice what I think about this phone.
I also have the OnePlus 3 in office, and I know some people compare it and I can say its basically Guava vs Apples comparison.
PS: Sorry didn't comment about development, but I honestly don't care much about it at all. I bought the Pixel so that I won't be needing the optimise it, let Google optimise it for me, and they did a fairly decent job, but after using Franco kernel I can say Google could have done a much better job. So that's all I need, a custom kernel.
coming from Samsung and LG devices, this phone has been a breath of fresh air even with this new partition scheme. Phone does well, battery life holds up for two days. I just have an issue with bluetooth not consistently sending music info to my radio. Some days it works, other days it's like what music info...
It's great and definitely a worthy upgrade from my Nexus 6. The only thing I miss is the front facing speakers but I didn't use them much anyways, well that and I guess it's way more slippery than my Nexus 6 because I don't use cases at all.
Couldn't be happier. Presently have a 7 Plus and the XL that I swap my sim between. IPhone is great in many ways but I just keep coming back to the Pixel XL....something about the experience I get using it that I really enjoy.
As for the other characteristics of the device others have already commented. I purchased mine at launch and received it later October.
I currently have the Nexus 6P. Damn that is a nice phone! I'm seriously doubting anything will "crush" this phones performance. But I decided I wanted to move up to the Pixel XL. I'm a decent Android gamer, so the updated GPU was nice. Plus, the camera is supposedly just that much better. Among other things, like 4GB RAM instead of the 6P's 3GB.
I don't receive the Pixel XL until Monday, so I'm wearing a path through my foyer, pacing back and forth, waiting for it to arrive.
I've spent at LEAST 30 hours this week doing research on the Pixel, its partition layout, how to get root to work, TWRP limitations, etc. This is certainly more complicated than the 6P.
Part of the reason I decided to plop down for the Pixel, was because I didn't see a lot of development going for it, as there is for the 6P. And since people seem to like my ROMs, I figured I'd toss something out there that I made, and see what kind of life it can breathe into the Pixel.
I think I'll like it. Tried it out in-hand at BestBuy yesterday. Solid device, great screen, color accuracy is actually better than the 6P, and for the first time, I kind of like the phone WITHOUT a case! Never though I'd say that.
I've used iPhones since the 3GS up until the 6S Plus (all jailbroken). I decided to try out the Nexus 6P (first ever Android phone) and fell in love with it! Custom ROMs, kernels, tweaks, Xposed, etc. were all new to me and I loved every bit of it!
However, for some reason, I decided to sell it and pick up an iPhone 7 Plus when it released. As iOS matured, security got tighter, and jailbreaking became more difficult. I got tired of waiting for a jailbreak to release and realized how locked down the OS is (when not jailbroken) compared to Android.
I sold my 7 Plus and bought this Pixel XL. I wasn't a huge fan at first, just because of the confusion with the slots and the lack of development​ compared to the 6P.
Now that there is more development and that I understand the slots better, I'm really enjoying this phone!
Overall, if I had the choice, I would still probably pick the 6P over this; that thing was just a beauty in basically every aspect, and it was the phone that first introduced me into the Android world.
Not a huge fan of the single downfiring speaker or the bottom chin, but otherwise it's a great phone, especially the camera!
I'm going to see what the OnePlus 5 has to offer, and may switch to that - but I'll definitely keep this XL around until the 2nd gen Pixels release. I'll be purchasing the second gen Pixels only if Google allows them to be development friendly like how the Nexus line was. If not, I may make a permanent switch over to the OnePlus line.
CZ Eddie said:
What's your opinion of this phone now that it's been out for more than six months?
Build quality, development, etc.
Compared to previous phones or compared to whatever your expectations might have been.
Me?
I'm sorry to say that I wish I never left my Moto X Pure with BrokenOS' MarshMallow ROM.
Pixel is great though, in many ways.
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Well I had the LG G6, S8+, and I sent the G6 back and sold the S8+. The pixel was snappier than both, better camera than both which is a great feature having and outstanding camera, and more reliable than both. I like stock Android, clean, fast, stable. I like being able to unlock and do what I want with my phone when I want and still have the same snappiness, camera quality, and reliability on custom ROMs. Most times you sacrifice things to go custom. Not with Google devices, Nexus, Pixel, etc. I still have it since released and can't see getting rid of it any time soon. Ya, maybe people thinking of OnePlus 5, but I also had the 3 and 3T and one thing I hated about that is when using anything custom, the camera was horrible, BT for me had issues, and other little nags. All in all, this is definitely my go to device and I've had many.
I give it a C+
After having the Pixel XL since I returned the Note 7 (Best phone I've ever owned IMO), There are issues with it that really bug me.
- For one, Youtube stutters and desyncs the audio from the video almost every video I watch, and I watch a lot of YT.
- Second, the bluetooth does not sync right in my Audi, and every 15 minutes it sounds like a modem for like 20 seconds and reconnects. It also doesn't know what to do on voice calls and frequently bounce back and forth between car speakers, and phone speaker mode, so I just turn it off for voice or Hangouts/Meet calls in the car.
- Third, the battery life has been dwindling over time, so I charge twice a day now. Yes, I'm a power user and need at least 6-8 hours of screen on time per day. That being said the phone charging speed is ridiculously fast. I can charge at least 50% in 30 minutes.
- The speakers are crap, and the audio jack doesn't give me enough volume. The setting between say 60-65% volume is way too loud, so the volume curve is not good.
-As a pro, the Camera is excellent, even in low light if you know what you're doing. The video, if you use the auto stability is crap so just don't use it.
The phone does stutter, and take a while sometimes. I am using the stock ROM, and have made no modifications to the file system or home screen at all. As is, this phone is average, so for the price, not worth it. I do have the Verizon version, and not sure if that makes a difference. Can't wait for the Note 8 to come out.
I've had mine since November and still love it. I came from the G7 edge which I was quite fond of as well. The following are the good things that keep me on the Pixel.
- Camera, for stills easily the best available. Wish the EIS didn't cause the jello effect when panning while video recording, but nonetheless I've been quite pleased with the camcorder as well.
- Software, clean, simple, fluid and robust. I am on stock unrooted. I reboot my phone once a month for updates and the phone never lags, gets janky or develops issues requiring a reboot. Additionally, the speed of updates means I'm always up to date with the most secure version​ of Android available.
I've had my Pixel XL 128gb since launch. I came from a Note 7, so was very challenging to get used to having a very lean software base which didn't offer many features in comparison to the Samsung series. I missed many software features from the Note 7.
The thing that gets me the most, is that I was already bored of the device 6 months in. I usually hold onto a phone for 12-24 months. The Note 4 I held onto for the longest time (24months). I enjoyed it as there were both android OS updates, and touchwiz updates, so it constantly got a new lease to life looking fresh or having new features. 8 months on and the Pixel looks exactly the same, with no updates.
I also feel that the design looked dated when I bought it, but it now is really showing it's age with the HUGE bezels. I have also struggled to find any good screen protectors (I've tried them all) as they don't sit properly. The phone is huge with a smaller screen than most phones this price/size.
It's got the worst bluetooth of any phone I have every owned, partly down to Android but also to the Pixel.
Had a lot more ROM options for Samsung, being that you can go Note 4 roms, Note 5 roms, Note 7 roms, AOSP builds, CM, MIUI. I feel like the Pixel has AOSP, stock. That's it really. They are all the same with very minor changes.
Otherwise it's mostly buttery smooth - although i'm constantly keeping my eye out for a new phone, so could be the shortest period I have owned a phone for.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the HTC U11+, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the HTC U11+ is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I am not at all happy that I bought the HTC U11+. Overall, this phone is a 7 out of 10 at best. I am on T-Mobile and not happy. I have been with HTC since 2009. And was always impressed. The last phone was the HTC One. This U11+ is simply unreliable.
Calls: When I call people they are frequently unable to hear me on the first call. Maybe they do hear me on the second call. We do hear each other if they call me back.
Gmail: Frequently, the gmail app does not load properly. It will give me a white screen. I go out, and come back in, and we are fine.
Battery: It lasts about 30 hours. But I am not a heavy user, and do try to keep location turned off.
Speaker: Sometimes caller does not hear me via speaker phone.
T-Mo tech support said that this phone does not have LTE 1900. Therefore I am operating on 4G 1900. That is not T Mo's sweet spot.
Did I complain enough? I can give you a fresh one. I came back to xda seeking root options, but I think it is a bit early for devs. But they do always save the day. So, only love for this community.
pklunavat said:
I am not at all happy that I bought the HTC U11+. Overall, this phone is a 7 out of 10 at best. I am on T-Mobile and not happy. I have been with HTC since 2009. And was always impressed. The last phone was the HTC One. This U11+ is simply unreliable.
Calls: When I call people they are frequently unable to hear me on the first call. Maybe they do hear me on the second call. We do hear each other if they call me back.
Gmail: Frequently, the gmail app does not load properly. It will give me a white screen. I go out, and come back in, and we are fine.
Battery: It lasts about 30 hours. But I am not a heavy user, and do try to keep location turned off.
Speaker: Sometimes caller does not hear me via speaker phone.
T-Mo tech support said that this phone does not have LTE 1900. Therefore I am operating on 4G 1900. That is not T Mo's sweet spot.
Did I complain enough? I can give you a fresh one. I came back to xda seeking root options, but I think it is a bit early for devs. But they do always save the day. So, only love for this community.
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I concur the Gmail bug. Also, the notifications drawer, in the home screen, takes several tries to come down when you pull it down from the centre of the screen. Finally, sometimes, the auto-brightness does not do its job with the brightness very low.
Apart from that, the rest is worthy it.
pklunavat said:
I am not at all happy that I bought the HTC U11+. Overall, this phone is a 7 out of 10 at best. I am on T-Mobile and not happy. I have been with HTC since 2009. And was always impressed. The last phone was the HTC One. This U11+ is simply unreliable.
Calls: When I call people they are frequently unable to hear me on the first call. Maybe they do hear me on the second call. We do hear each other if they call me back.
Gmail: Frequently, the gmail app does not load properly. It will give me a white screen. I go out, and come back in, and we are fine.
Battery: It lasts about 30 hours. But I am not a heavy user, and do try to keep location turned off.
Speaker: Sometimes caller does not hear me via speaker phone.
T-Mo tech support said that this phone does not have LTE 1900. Therefore I am operating on 4G 1900. That is not T Mo's sweet spot.
Did I complain enough? I can give you a fresh one. I came back to xda seeking root options, but I think it is a bit early for devs. But they do always save the day. So, only love for this community.
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Sorry to hear you are not enjoying the device. I was concerned about my mobile signal and speed so I downloaded LTE Discovery app.
My U11+ never shows that I am on LTE on the status bar. It always shows 4G. LTE Discovery app shows I am connected to band 4 LTE and speed test shows the same ball park up / down speeds as my Pixel here in SF.
I like this phone ALOT but unsure if I will keep it for the long haul.
I live in the UK and the phone works perfectly fine even though is the Hong Kong version. People in the US should know that this phone was not meant to be sold there.
I am using Taiwan model of this phone on Tmobile in bay area and have none of the issues mentioned above by pklunavat. This phone has a score of 11 on 10 for me. Excellent phone in every regard. See my impressions/review thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-u11/how-to/impressions-review-phone-small-episodes-t3714841
This is the best phone I have ever had. Better than the U11. It offers great performance, design and features.
I love the Sound over Earphones 1++++++
I'm loving this phone
Brightness is good for me, night filter built in is nice to have
Edge sense carousel is great, and I've had no problems as mentioned above
However, I'm disappointed with the camera. It got really good reviews, but it seems that any shot with motion in it comes out blurry
Shots of buildings or landscapes are great, but when I try to take pictures of my kids, it's blurry. Apparently a lot of new smartphone manufacturers are concentrating on HDR processing rather than getting bigger sensors. A friend with an iPhone 8 has the same problem, as does another friend with the Pixel 2 XL.
I'm trying the Google Camera Port on my U11+, hopefully it will show some improvement....
Nghtmare said:
I live in the UK and the phone works perfectly fine even though is the Hong Kong version. People in the US should know that this phone was not meant to be sold there.
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Agreed. I Live in Australia and purchased the Taiwan version. Works like a charm. Love this phone!
Well, do I love it? I do like it a lot. I'm coming from the HTC 10 which I really loved but in the end the battery wasn't up to scratch anymore.
The U11+ is large, almost too large for my jeans pockets but that's not surprising, the phone dimensions were no secret. I got the hyped transparent black version and I like it but I think it's far overrated. Thanks to that ultra glossy glass back it's impossible to use the phone without a case, I'm using a cheap transparent flexible bumper thing which does the job.
The battery life is great, it easily does 48 hrs (without any optimisation other that disabling News Republic) and more (actually more than 72hrs over Christmas when I hadn't used it much) with the same usage pattern of my old 10 which lasted about 10 hrs in the end and one full day when it was new so this is surely a great improvement. The screen of the 10 is the better one I woould say, especially that purple tint when scrolling doesn't look nice, but it's sharp, bright and the colours are good.
I haven't taken many photos but the few I took were at least as good as the already very good 10's camera. The earphones are amazing and so is the fingerprint scanner.
I won't say that I love it but as mentioned before, I like it a lot. I'm still happy that I haven't bought the 5T instead out of impatience! It's also still early into the phone's life, there hopefully will be a few more tweaks and improvements over time.
Coming from galaxy S8. I can say this is the best device that I have ever had. Last HTC device I was using was htc m9.
Used my U11+ for a week now and this is absolute a real good device, it's fast and design is perfect.
Hi, coming from HTC 10. In my opinion, the HTC 10 was a good phone. But the HTC U11+ is absolutely thrilling me. Usually I rooted all my HTCs directly, so far I don't really have any desire to do that, because the device does everything I need.
The sound is great, the battery is excellent. The whole thing is completely stable and I personally find squeezing phenomenal, especially with Edge Sense Plus.
I just returned my Pixel 2 XL for the annoying blue tint and pretty happy so far, not regretting at all.
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I just returned my Pixel 2 XL for the annoying blue tint and pretty happy so far, not regretting at all.
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So while I'm considering the U11+ for its not so absurd price, you're telling me that you got from the Pixel 2 XL to this phone? Nice to know.
killchain said:
So while I'm considering the U11+ for its not so absurd price, you're telling me that you got from the Pixel 2 XL to this phone? Nice to know.
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I was originally intended to buy the U11+ since I heard the rumors about its existence and that it was meant to be the Pixel 2 XL, so I was curious about what kind of device was this.
For things of life, I finished buying the Pixel 2 XL with a nice discount like 3 weeks ago.
Since the first time I turned on the device, I knew I was not going to be happy because of the screen and the annoying blue tint. I think people out there who diminished the problem is because they are not used to good screens or they are blind, and moreover, when they tell you "I look the phone straight forward", is bull5sh1t as well, because I faced plenty of situations when I couldn't see the phone straight forward and it was annoying.
People can say you can have the best camera, the best software updates, unlimited space for photos and videos, no lag, etc, but let me tell you that all of those "selling points" for the Pixel are not that good:
Best camera - Honestly, I made a photo comparison between the U11+ and the Pixel 2 XL, and in 7 of 10, the HTC was better and with more detail, text was more legible and forms were sharper. I think that HTC learned something after making every Pixel so far, but when I show the pictures, people just blame me and say I'm crazy. Video on Pixel was horrible and the audio extremely poor. The difference in aperture indeed makes a difference, even when it seems a small one.
Software updates - Yes, you have them, but guess what?, it breaks compatibility sometimes with apps. With the Pixel 2 XL I had a lot of force close applications, so what's the point of having the latest release if Google is not obligating developers to update their applications timely?. Yes, 3 years of software updates, but honestly, who stays with the phone for 3 years?.
Photos and video - I don't use Google or any other storage service to have all my photos and videos. I'm old school, and I put everything is a hard drive. I think is safer, besides, I don't like that certain things of my private life are around in the internet.
But the screen is not the only issue, I faced a lot of other hardware and software issues along the way, and thanks to the extremely bad quality control from LG and Google, the device you are getting is overall mediocre quality. I was expecting to receive a device with no serious bugs and well built because it a phone directly from Google, but the reality is totally another one.
Overall, I faced the following issues that made me return this phone:
Blue tint
Slow fingerprint sensor
Super slow "fast" charge (taking no less than 3 hours)
Bluetooth issues while streaming music
Problems with Android Auto
Banding while recording video
Awful sound and video quality
Coming from the Mate 9 Pro, one of the finest devices I have ever had, was a big hit for me to change to the Pixel 2 XL because all of these issues. Each time I saw the screen, it just made me sad and made me wonder: why a €1K phone have these kind of issues?, and moreover, what kind of idiot am I to buy and accept something like this with all these flaws?. Google is not getting my money this year, and believe me when I say that I'm a Google fan, but quality and product overall is not in pair with what most flagships are offering.
Still I see why people is buying and defending the Pixel, and in the moment I was packing it to return it, I felt bad, like if I was betraying Google or the ideology. At some moment I felt fear to return it and better keep it and accept the flaws, but that makes me no different from all the iSheeps you see out there that buy everything that comes with an Apple logo in the back, something that I clearly hate, because we are becoming zombies instead of intelligent consumers.
I have the U11+ for a week now and I can say I feel home again, is like having my old Mate 9 Pro, but with Android stock, and I haven't faced any issues AT ALL, just perfect, smooth and awesome behaviour. I can highly recommend the device.
P.D.: Sorry for the long post.
I have been using the U11+ since December 21st and I love it. The phone is very fast, has a very good display and a great design. The only negative side is that it needs a bit more care when holding it in the hand not to fall.
Overall, this is a great phone and it is the best HTC has ever made.
Hi guys,
Do you know if we get the full Oreo functionality and features? I know about PIP which requires a subscription to Youtube, do we get anything else? I read that Smart Text doesn't work in the U11 section...
wilpang said:
Hi guys,
Do you know if we get the full Oreo functionality and features? I know about PIP which requires a subscription to Youtube, do we get anything else? I read that Smart Text doesn't work in the U11 section...
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Smart Text is not working from me, and I didn't notice it until you mentioned it.
PiP is working for me with maps in driving mode.
Besides that, I haven't noticed much.

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