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so confused...VOTE!
They finally released 2GB version! My prayers are heard!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/30/canadian-carriers-put-galaxy-s-iii-launch-on-june-20th/
2gb is a must required for smoother user experience like the international variants as the s4 uses more memory than exynos quad. apart from that not much of a difference on that part.
so its upto the users to decide, apart from the ram which soc is better? s4 or exynos quad
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2gb is a must required for smoother user experience like the international variants as the s4 uses more memory than exynos quad. apart from that not much of a difference on that part.
so its upto the users to decide, apart from the ram which soc is better? s4 or exynos quad
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but are the specs of the quad core processor better than the dual core s4? or they are almost the same? I noticed the att dual core hox was doing pretty well(even better than the quad core hox) and I was impressed I should say!
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but are the specs of the quad core processor better than the dual core s4? or they are almost the same? I noticed the att dual core hox was doing pretty well(even better than the quad core hox) and I was impressed I should say!
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both of them are on par on performance with one winning the others in few test, you will absolutely note no difference in performance.
bala_gamer said:
2gb is a must required for smoother user experience like the international variants as the s4 uses more memory than exynos quad. apart from that not much of a difference on that part.
so its upto the users to decide, apart from the ram which soc is better? s4 or exynos quad
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What makes you say that S4 uses more memory? Both of them don't have dedicated graphics memory like the Tegra3 so they both need to use system ram. The rest is upto the OS, the SoC has nothing to do with it.
I'd pick the dual-core, 4g LTE (and DC-HSPA on 3g which the quad-core doesn't have), 2gb ram and it's not even close.
- Similar performance
- Super fast 4g speeds
- Much faster 3g speeds thanks to DC-HSPA
- 2gb ram means less app killing to make more room for other apps which leads to smoother - more fluid UI experience
I have no idea why people would want the quad-core exynos, other than the fact that it's been released.
S4/Krait : (+) newer architecture, not exactly A15, but comparable. Good battery life. If you use LTE, I think it has integrated LTE radios.
Quad-Exynos: (+) Powerful GPU, I would believe that Samsung can optimize their software much better for Exynos compared to S4. Decent battery life. I read that they modified the architecture with options like 128-bit internal bus which is not available in other A9's.
2GB RAM to probably offset the extra memory used by S4 as we saw in the case AT&T HOX multitasking issue.
Decision is yours.
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but are the specs of the quad core processor better than the dual core s4? or they are almost the same? I noticed the att dual core hox was doing pretty well(even better than the quad core hox) and I was impressed I should say!
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Tegra 3 sucks compared to S4 but exynos is way better than Tegra 3. I would say exynos is the best currently. I'm not sure if there will be too much advantage to gain with 2gb ram. The one advantage the s4 will have over exynos is battery life.
How many of the people who are saying that s4 plus 2gb is not good actually have an option to buy it? Only guys in US who have option to go with either of the two will give you right answer.
Im going with exynos quadcore... Do i think s4 plus 2gb plus lte is better in terms of hardware? definitely yes. Then why am i getting exynos? I want 10bucks unlimited data which will be available only with the unbranded phone. And international phone will have better developer support.
Im positive that s4 version will be super fluid if you choose to go for it though. I think i have made my decision that ill will get international version for my own reasons.
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I'd pick the dual-core, 4g LTE (and DC-HSPA on 3g which the quad-core doesn't have), 2gb ram and it's not even close.
- Similar performance
- Super fast 4g speeds
- Much faster 3g speeds thanks to DC-HSPA
- 2gb ram means less app killing to make more room for other apps which leads to smoother - more fluid UI experience
I have no idea why people would want the quad-core exynos, other than the fact that it's been released.
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Your only valid point is 4G, oh well.....I will have to make do with "only" 42mB/s on DC-HSPA....yes we will have it in Sweden on the Quad core.
2GB RAM is meaningless.
Definitely getting the S4 version as soon as it hits AT&T. I hope it has the Wolfson DAC... but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't.
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2GB RAM is meaningless.
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2GB RAM is a must today. If you do not want to seeks kernels with swap option next months you need this RAM.
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Your only valid point is 4G, oh well.....I will have to make do with "only" 42mB/s on DC-HSPA....yes we will have it in Sweden on the Quad core.
2GB RAM is meaningless.
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2gb ram means faster more fluid multitasking due to Android not having to kill/reload so many apps when you run multiple things. Won't see crap like the launcher having to reload because you opened a few apps for a while. It leads to better user experience.
And how is Snapdragon S4 vs Exynos 4412 performance not similar? From benchmarks I've seen they're both extremely comparable: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview
I don't live in Sweden, so our Exynos variant doesn't have DC-HSPA......yet another reason not to waste money on that variant.
They're both good combinations and offer interesting points for technical comparison. My bet is that real world use on both is very fluid. Both are better than Tegra 3 anyways.
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Quad with 2Gb..?
Thread to thread in super Pi the S4 is just 18% faster, so it will shine a bit in a dual core scenario but will be crushed by the Exynos otherwise (4 threads).
Then the GPU of the Exynos is a lot better (S4 GPU is in the range of the SGS2) and battery drain seem comparable between the 2.
Given an option I will go for S4 (Krait) + 2GB but sadly my part of the geographical location I will get only the Quad core one
Wish they went with adreno 320 and s4 quad like thar stupid looking leaked lg phone.
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If you have LTE in your area get the 2.gb if not get the quad. Hspa + isn't exactly slow, just not comparable to LTE
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I think the decision would make it way more easy for me if there was at least a launch date in US and for AT&T specifically. But it could be fall yet before it actually makes it debut here and also depends on which carrier launches first etc.. etc...
I have the International ordered and still may cancel it if this low stock fiasco doesn't end soon... and wait to see how the US launches unfold. I'm also interested to see real life comparisons of performance between these 2 variants..
B) another question: the octa core version supports 4G LTE doesnt it? or snapdragon has better 4G support?
Snapdragon 600 (1.9ghz speed, 4 cores) or Exynos 5 Octa(4 cores A15, clocked at 1.6ghz+ 4 cores 1.2GHZ A7)
1) what is faster? exynos or snapdragon?
2) which one is more effectively? (battery friendly)? (***in both high-huge use and low-idle use.. in which one battery life are better)
3) there are any benchmarks test for both of them.?
i just dont know which one is better..
Adreno 320 GPU vs PowerVR SGX 544MP3
4) which one is stronger?
5) i really dont know which version should i get.. US version(with 1.9ghz) or international(1.6ghz) their performance are really similar?
6) there is any stronger smartphone out now?
6) will the galaxy s4 have wireless charging?
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7) what about music? is there any quality speakers?
8) headphone will be HD/ very good quality.. ? (like in iPhone 5)?
8)
1) the snapdragon is over clocked so is supposed to be faster in cpu but the exynos won't lack behind.
2) for battery of course the exynos since only 4 cores will be running so if ur doing a low use the A7 will be running which are great for battery life and when you kick it to high use that's when the bug guns A15 come in play.
3)for the exynos no because it is not available yet but for the snapdragon it got the twice score of an iphone 5 so that gives a clear answer.
4)i think that would go to the powerVr since the exynos version is expected to be better in Gpu.
5)that depends on you.
6)of course it will but will be optional.
7) the speakers are supposed to be good than the previous models.
8) i am not sure about that but even if they aren't there are always beats.
hope i gave you a clear answer and if there is anything else you would like to know let me know.
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1) the snapdragon is over clocked so is supposed to be faster in cpu but the exynos won't lack behind.
2) for battery of course the exynos since only 4 cores will be running so if ur doing a low use the A7 will be running which are great for battery life and when you kick it to high use that's when the bug guns A15 come in play.
3)for the exynos no because it is not available yet but for the snapdragon it got the twice score of an iphone 5 so that gives a clear answer.
4)i think that would go to the powerVr since the exynos version is expected to be better in Gpu.
5)that depends on you.
6)of course it will but will be optional.
7) the speakers are supposed to be good than the previous models.
8) i am not sure about that but even if they aren't there are always beats.
hope i gave you a clear answer and if there is anything else you would like to know let me know.
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thanks for taking your time for answering me
do you think exyons 5 will be overclock-able? i hope we will be able to get 1.8ghz or something without losing battery life or something..
yes i think after rooting and few kernel releases you will be able to overclock the Cpu and maybe also the Gpu but why would you need that the exynos on the galaxy s4 is already going to be a beast and it's expected to be in par with the snapdragon and also your welcome
Actually the Exynos is better in every aspect (battery speed and gpu) clock speeds don't mean anything a15s are faster than krait fullstop
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4 core?, I guess its Octo-core Exynos
Well unless you don't use both of them, you can't figure out which one is better.
May be someone may use and let us know.
well even if the exynos is better in every aspect the biggest advantage would still be low task using so its battery saving so everything else is probably the same or little difference and what do you mean clock speeds don't mean anything ?? have you seen the benchmark difference between the galaxy s4 and the htc one ?? and i know the A155 are better than krait that's why the snapdragon is overclocked
@samsingh02 it is octa core but like 4+4 so the 8 cores will never function together it would be like A7 for the low tasks and the A15 when you are on a heavy task like gaming
anyway the thing is the snapdragon is for 4G network and the exynos for the 3G network end of story.
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well even if the exynos is better in every aspect the biggest advantage would still be low task using so its battery saving so everything else is probably the same or little difference
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I didn't bother to explain it has been done to much and speed is actually a big factor to make a long story short read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191850
and i know the A155 are better than krait that's why the snapdragon is overclocked
@samsingh02 it is octa core but like 4+4 so the 8 cores will never function together it would be like A7 for the low tasks and the A15 when you are on a heavy task like gaming
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That's the while point
anyway the thing is the snapdragon is for 4G network and the exynos for the 3G network end of story.
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Some benchmarks show Exynos having 4g compatibility
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but that would be the galaxy note 2 exynos 4 because the exynos 5 on the galaxy s4 is not out yet the only exynos 5 is on the nexus 10
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but that would be the galaxy note 2 exynos 4 because the exynos 5 on the galaxy s4 is not out yet the only exynos 5 is on the nexus 10
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Exynos 5 in the nexus 10 is dual core
But the second part
Where did Exynos 4 come from what are u talking about
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i know it's clocked at 1.7 and i was talking about the note 2 i read in the Xda here that it was available on a carrier in the U.S. with the exynos
You can see here which countries will get the octa core version and which countries will get the Snapdragon version
http://goo.gl/EePDg
B) another question: the octa core version supports 4G LTE doesnt it? or snapdragon has better 4G support?
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B) another question: the octa core version upports 4G LTE doesnt it? or snapdragon has better 4G support?
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Just to butt in, doesn't Exynos octa also have LTE support? I want to know what bands it supports.
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Right, I cannot make my mind up so I thought I would come on here, il make it short.
Which has better performance - Snapdragon 800 OR Exynos 5420
I don't give a flying f*** about 4G or 4K. Which one has better performance i.e which is faster?
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Right, I cannot make my mind up so I thought I would come on here, il make it short.
Which has better performance - Snapdragon 800 OR Exynos 5420
I don't give a flying f*** about 4G or 4K. Which one has better performance i.e which is faster?
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I would say the Snapdragon 800 because more devs would get it= more roms, better clock speed, better battery life because of chipset enhancements, faster charging because of chipset enhancements. If none of those matter to you get the Exynos version.
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hayat55 said:
Right, I cannot make my mind up so I thought I would come on here, il make it short.
Which has better performance - Snapdragon 800 OR Exynos 5420
I don't give a flying f*** about 4G or 4K. Which one has better performance i.e which is faster?
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Define performance.
Then we talk. My definition of performance is much different from that of my neighbour.
Dont you think you are showing too much attitude? How hard is it to say please? And snapdragon and exynos benchmarks are about the same
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Dont you think you are showing too much attitude? How hard is it to say please? And snapdragon and exynos benchmarks are about the same
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To be technical, it seems that Exynos benchmarks are slightly higher. However, I believe that is without the HMP update. With that, scores will skyrocket.
I can't make my mind up whether to get snapdragon 800 version or exynos 5420. By performance i mean which can do more multitasking and which can run apps faster etc
From what I've seen the scores are indeed about the same on the benchmark front. They will both be good! I'm guessing the s800 will get more dev support and probably cm. It will all be your choice, do you want lte or not.
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From what I've seen the scores are indeed about the same on the benchmark front. They will both be good! I'm guessing the s800 will get more dev support and probably cm. It will all be your choice, do you want lte or not.
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One thing that pushes me towards the exynos is that it has 1866 ram speed whereas snapdragon only has 800
Which do you think will be better in the long run?
^^^ forgot to mention that because exynos has higher ram speed then that means quicker performance.
So, which one should I get? Will there really be any difference between the performance of exynos 5420 and snapdragon 800?
You really do seem to have an attitude in your posts. Anyways, the phone isn't out yet so all anybody has is benchmarks to go by. Not a lot of real world use reviews out there to compare the two.
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I guess the ram speed can be neglected in real life usage. The s4 with the s600 feels the same as the octa version to me. And that is while the octa s4 obliterated the s600 in Antutu and some other Benchmarks. Like I've said before, if you want lte and better rom support get the s800 one. If you're really spec whoring get a 8 core exynos.
Anyways, from what I've seen so far the s800 seems to be faster in Antutu but not that much so I guess they will be at the same level of performance.
I would get any device I could get which for me is the s800 since I'm from the Netherlands.
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S800
LTE
Better support
Benchmark mean absolutely nothing and are a terrible way if measuring a phone. I've seen plenty if phones have high numbers but real world experience sucked.
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Easy. Snapdragon since there will be much more support for it from developers.
Also, don't forget, the 8-core is a lie
You have your normal 4-cores with an additional 4 'smaller' cores to handle always running less intense things. I really don't see the advantage to this, you don't get more out of benchmarks because those 4 'smaller' cores won't be used, except by some obscure background task that wouldn't slow down the benchmark anyways. It also won't help with the battery life, no matter how you spin it a clock cycle is a clock cycle.
The only time you will see gains from small memory speed increases are in things like calculating pie, so again, useless for day-to-day stuff. As other have stated, support. Qualcomm based will get AOSP based roms without any problems.
If you are looking to flaunt your meaningless bigger numbers around, by all means, get the 8-core.
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Also, don't forget, the 8-core is a lie
You have your normal 4-cores with an additional 4 'smaller' cores to handle always running less intense things. I really don't see the advantage to this, you don't get more out of benchmarks because those 4 'smaller' cores won't be used, except by some obscure background task that wouldn't slow down the benchmark anyways. It also won't help with the battery life, no matter how you spin it a clock cycle is a clock cycle.
The only time you will see gains from small memory speed increases are in things like calculating pie, so again, useless for day-to-day stuff. As other have stated, support. Qualcomm based will get AOSP based roms without any problems.
If you are looking to flaunt your meaningless bigger numbers around, by all means, get the 8-core.
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Not true anymore. They are releasing an update to run all 8 cores at the same time to make it a true octacore
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kiter86 said:
Not true anymore. They are releasing an update to run all 8 cores at the same time to make it a true octacore
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Source? Cause idk about that....
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Not true anymore. They are releasing an update to run all 8 cores at the same time to make it a true octacore
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I thought they were. Wasn't it something like a Heterogeneous or HMP update.
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Source? Cause idk about that....
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was news a few weeks ago.......
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...-update-to-become-true-octa-core-chip_id47353
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...a-software-new-hardware-not-needed-after-all/
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Not true anymore. They are releasing an update to run all 8 cores at the same time to make it a true octacore
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It can't be a true 8-core. The extra 4 cores are far less powerful then the other 4.
designgears said:
It can't be a true 8-core. The extra 4 cores are far less powerful then the other 4.
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Let me tell you some preludes:
The reason behind using 8 cores was to put in a pair of four aggressively powerful quad processors like the cortex A15 with another pair of less powerful yet more power efficient four quad processors like cortex A7.
This is the main intention behind putting all these 8 cores of ARM's big.little architecture. The purpose is to let the A15s handle power hungry tasks like web page opening, playing an asphalt 8 game etc while the a7s would handle "simple" tasks. This is more vividly demoed in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwbeb08W27U
Now, the way you are saying it is not a true 8 core processor as if you are
1. demanding 8 cortex A15 processors using 28 nm technology.
Do you know/have any idea what could happen if they all be available online at the same time in this case?
or
2. you knew there was a "true" octa core processor in the world, to be (or already) implemented in another device. IF SO, point us to that device and also explain what is the ideal to call a processor true 8 core.
It was never an intention of ARM to put eight A15s (for example) available for heterogeneous multi-processing.
Go here. Again 64 bit A57s are to be paired with 32 bit A52s.
Even the S4 equipped with exynos 5410 is an octa core processor device. It is just that the bloody CCI (cache coherence interconnector, CCI400) was crippled to enable all the 8 cores available online. Once the 8 cores packed in a SoC like this it is an octa core processor device. Whether or not you like it to call true 8 core.
Samsung/ARM worked on this and released another SoC (in the form of upgraded exynos) which has a working CCI that is free from the above mentioned flaw(s) which will have Cluster Migration by default and will receive the update that is made from Linaro team to enable all the 8 cores available online and therefore will become a "TRULY WORKING" 8 core processor which is implemented in Note 3.
These are facts, these have been heavily discussed in the general section of Samsung Galaxy S4 forums.
Oh, another thing- just because all these 8 cores are made to be available online it does not mean all the 8 cores will be working Simultaneously regardless of what application is in the process. Depending on the needs of the app(s) all these 8 cores (ranging from 1 core to the extreme case- 8 cores) can be used. If an app needs 4 cores, they can be used. If it needs 6 cores then they can be used. If it needs 8 cores then they can be used.
I personally am curious to see how it be going when all the 8 cores were used for an app.
And to the OP who's demadning a straight answer, my thoughts:
we do not know anything atm how power efficient and cool it'd be to have the HMP doing all these tasks. This requires
real life buyers buy the device
start playing with it
see how hot the device becomes (compared to another exynos device like s4).
It actually depends on those stuffs. You demand the answer as if we all knew from the beginning how exynos 5420 gonna perform in real life.
A thread where all benchmarks are posted. Especially when comparing exynos vs SD 820
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7_and_s7_edge_benchmarked_the_exynos_flavor-news-16794.php
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Seems way of if you ask me.. should kill the z5... There is deff something wrong here!
johanbiff said:
Seems way of if you ask me.. should kill the z5... There is deff something wrong here!
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Z5 is rendering in 1080p so there's no surprise it comes ahead in onscreen benchmarks. The mali-gpu is also not the strongest. Pretty sure the 820 will perform better.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-G5-shakes-hands-with-Snapdragon-820-to-shatter-AnTuTu-records-benchmark-test-scores_id78636
LG G5 seems to be scoring almost 20k higher than the exynos 8890-equipped S7. S820 looks to be the better SoC by far at this point.
https://youtu.be/qMJ2x6POZak
128k there.i guess its the exynos
Anyway not enough to surpass the iphone
http://www.antutu.com/en/view.shtml?id=8184
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https://youtu.be/qMJ2x6POZak
128k there.i guess its the exynos
Anyway not enough to surpass the iphone
http://www.antutu.com/en/view.shtml?id=8184
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Seriously ? Do you even know how ios and android operate ?
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To sum things up: the Snapdragon 820 sports a better GPU, the Exynos 8890 sports a better CPU and a better DAC (Qualcomm DACs just haven't got the best of reputations, while the Exynos usually sport a decent Wolfson DAC), Qualcomm SOCs however usually sport a better baseband/radio than the competition.
I would say, in daily usages, the performances should be negligible, the real impact between both should be battery life related, an early preview done on the Exynos 8890 version claims a 12hrs battery life at maximum brightness on the S7 (not the S7 Edge), I guess we will see how it goes when more reviews come in.
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To sum things up: the Snapdragon 820 sports a better GPU, the Exynos 8890 sports a better CPU and a better DAC (Qualcomm DACs just haven't got the best of reputations, while the Exynos usually sport a decent Wolfson DAC), Qualcomm SOCs however usually sport a better baseband/radio than the competition.
I would say, in daily usages, the performances should be negligible, the real impact between both should be battery life related, an early preview done on the Exynos 8890 version claims a 12hrs battery life at maximum brightness on the S7 (not the S7 Edge), I guess we will see how it goes when more reviews come in.
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No Wolfson this time. It seems Samsung is using an in-house DAC.
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/02/22...ony-imx260-camera-sensor-in-house-audio-chip/
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Seriously ? Do you even know how ios and android operate ?
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Yes.And its irrelevant.that test is cross platform
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Yes.And its irrelevant.that test is cross platform
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No you dont get it. Android uses multi cores to the fullest thats why multi core performance is the thing to look at, i suggest u read a piece on the subject on Anandtech
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another benchmark between sd 820 and 8890:
www.anandtech.com/show/10075/early-exynos-8890-impressions
i hope the 4 core difference between the two doesn't mean worse performance on the sd 820 variant. Also if you in the EU you will -apparently- be getting the exynos variant :crying:
i also read somewhere that said that the sd 820 had 2x custom (kyro) a-72 cores and 2x custom (kyro) a-53 cores and not 4x cutom (kyro) a-72 cores, hope its not true.
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Yes.And its irrelevant.that test is cross platform
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Quoted from the comments of the article at AnandTech linked above:
It seems perfectly competitive in the graphics benchmarks, and comparing JavaScript benchmarks across different hardware, OS, and browser configurations is useless. To say Apple's Safari team "aggressively optimizes" for Octane and Kraken would be an understatement. Plus we're talking about simple benchmarks that can barely make any use of a second processor core, so of course they make the A9's dual-core CPU design look good next to more parallel competitors. Run something like Geekbench MT or the 3DMark physics test and watch A9 lose out to even Exynos 7420 or SD 810.
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another benchmark between sd 820 and 8890:
www.anandtech.com/show/10075/early-exynos-8890-impressions
i hope the 4 core difference between the two doesn't mean worse performance on the sd 820 variant. Also if you in the EU you will -apparently- be getting the exynos variant :crying:
i also read somewhere that said that the sd 820 had 2x custom (kyro) a-72 cores and 2x custom (kyro) a-53 cores and not 4x cutom (kyro) a-72 cores, hope its not true.
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The s820 has two custom cores and two lower-clocked A53s. It really won't matter that it has two fewer larger cores, as more cores leads to more heat, and more heat to more throttling. Only in benchmarks will it be noticeable.
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The s820 has two custom cores and two lower-clocked A53s.
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Where did you find that the 2 lower clocked are indeed A53s? What I have read, SD820 has 2 high clocked 2.15GHz and 2 low clocked 1.59GHz "Kryo cores"? So those 2 downclocked Kryo cores should be A72 like power not A53?
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Where did you find that the 2 lower clocked are indeed A53s? What I have read, SD820 has 2 high clocked 2.15GHz and 2 low clocked 1.59GHz "Kryo cores"? So those 2 downclocked Kryo cores should be A72 like power not A53?
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Hmm not sure, but pretty sure they aren't the same cores as the faster ones, as that way they could just have clocked them higher, and have them downclock instead of having them at 1.59Ghz all the time.
GFX Bench battery and throttling test of exynos variant. From 2800 frames to 1400 in 10 minutes of load. http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=707315&view=findpost&p=47363269
If some1 find snapdragon s7 results, please post it here.
TANKRED_ENDURES said:
GFX Bench battery and throttling test of exynos variant. From 2800 frames to 1400 in 10 minutes of load. http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=707315&view=findpost&p=47363269
If some1 find snapdragon s7 results, please post it here.
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Ouch i think for sd820 we have to wait a bit since its us and China only
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TANKRED_ENDURES said:
GFX Bench battery and throttling test of exynos variant. From 2800 frames to 1400 in 10 minutes of load. http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=707315&view=findpost&p=47363269
If some1 find snapdragon s7 results, please post it here.
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Says the test ran for 220 minutes. EDIT: Okey that was the results of the battery-test. But still where did you get 10 minutes from? If you look at the graphs you can clearly see that it dips only once to 1400 and that was at about the 1200 second mark (20 minutes).
http://www.talkandroid.com/286767-vivo-xplay-5-gets-benchmarked-on-antutu/#more-286767
Vivo Xplay 5 scored around 160k on Antutu and that is with the Snapdragon 820. Think Samsung should have stuck with Qualcomm for all regions this time around. Wish we could get the sd-version here in Europe as well.
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http://www.talkandroid.com/286767-vivo-xplay-5-gets-benchmarked-on-antutu/#more-286767
Vivo Xplay 5 scored around 160k on Antutu and that is with the Snapdragon 820. Think Samsung should have stuck with Qualcomm for all regions this time around. Wish we could get the sd-version here in Europe as well.
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Its probably fake as most of the score comes from GPU which is impossible and then theres 1080p vs qhd screen question
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Throttling looks much better compared to 7420.
They have made GPU wider and lower frequency, also better manufacturin process. Bound to get better compared to 7420.
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skivnit said:
Its probably fake as most of the score comes from GPU which is impossible and then theres 1080p vs qhd screen question
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Yes, in latest version of Antutu it gives more priority to onscreen numbers and single core performance. That's why iPhones are at top of chain in Antutu
Hi,
as the title says, is it possible to buy the exynos version of galaxy s7 edge, but then change the CPU later to a snapdragon 820?
If it is possible to change the CPU / GPU where would i be able to find it as a sparepart?
Thanks in advance.
Eaglesix said:
Hi,
as the title says, is it possible to buy the exynos version of galaxy s7 edge, but then change the CPU later to a snapdragon 820?
If it is possible to change the CPU / GPU where would i be able to find it as a sparepart?
Thanks in advance.
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Not possible. You'd be better off just buying a Snapdragon variant but I have no idea why you would want to do that when the general consensus is the exynos version is slightly better.
what he said^^
Surely this is not a serious question. You intend to desolder the existing cpu?
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Not possible. You'd be better off just buying a Snapdragon variant but I have no idea why you would want to do that when the general consensus is the exynos version is slightly better.
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Have you not been paying attention to benchmarks? The Snapdragon is way better than the exynos...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/03/07/galaxy-s7-performance-problem/#52b44c1d2fdb
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...n-820-vs-Exynos-8890-flavors-compared_id79141
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ore-powerful-than-iphone-6s---but-not-if-you/
Although, I agree that you shouldn't even consider trying to swap processors. Maybe try to purchase a Snapdragon variant?
Having some experience with PCB and electronics production, no it would not be possible to outright swap the cpu.
But maybe if you are good at tinkering you could buy a motherboard off of a broken device and swap that?
I do not have a lot of experience with electronics modification so i guess my only option is to buy the Snapdragon variant from another country.
In this context does anyone know of any verified phone sellers on the asian market (where the snapdragon variant currently is available) that has a webshop with international delivery?
Also if i buy the phone from asia will i be able to use it with a telephone subscription in Europe or is there some fundamental differences on the phone depending on where you buy it?
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Have you not been paying attention to benchmarks? The Snapdragon is way better than the exynos...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/03/07/galaxy-s7-performance-problem/#52b44c1d2fdb
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...n-820-vs-Exynos-8890-flavors-compared_id79141
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ore-powerful-than-iphone-6s---but-not-if-you/
Although, I agree that you shouldn't even consider trying to swap processors. Maybe try to purchase a Snapdragon variant?
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Nope, the only thing sd820 is better than 8890 is GPU. In cpu 8890 kills the sd820 even on battery life.
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Nope, the only thing sd820 is better than 8890 is GPU. In cpu 8890 kills the sd820 even on battery life.
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Um, the 820 CPU beats the 8890 in single core performance. And battery life with the 820... well, I'll let my screenshots speak for themselves.
g4Nk said:
Have you not been paying attention to benchmarks? The Snapdragon is way better than the exynos...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/03/07/galaxy-s7-performance-problem/#52b44c1d2fdb
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...n-820-vs-Exynos-8890-flavors-compared_id79141
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...ore-powerful-than-iphone-6s---but-not-if-you/
Although, I agree that you shouldn't even consider trying to swap processors. Maybe try to purchase a Snapdragon variant?
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Numbers aren't everything. People with the Snapdragon are having issues playing videos that are 1080p and above. Video stops playing but sound still happens on youtube. Same issue the LG V10 had and another phone.
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Um, the 820 CPU beats the 8890 in single core performance. And battery life with the 820... well, I'll let my screenshots speak for themselves.
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Nope it doesn't. Read Andrei on Reddit. Total score yes, on actual performance per cycle it doesn't. 7h sot over 48h total on my exynos.
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Nope it doesn't. Read Andrei on Reddit. Total score yes, on actual performance per cycle it doesn't. 7h sot over 48h total on my exynos.
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But it does. The only thing it slightly loses in is Integer performance. But it makes up for this in floating point superiority. Don't forget, the exynos in single threaded stuff runs at 2.6ghz, thats about 18% faster than the snapdragons 2.15ghz. If we Normalized the clocks, theres really no question which ones superior in single core performance. As for OPs question, no, unless you are a total bada** it would almost certainly not work. You would likely need to replace the whole board, not just the CPU as it's all one big interconnected system. Especially on the sd820, due to it using the symphony system manager to dynamically offload tasks to the DSP and other blocks to save power and improve performance. On top of all that you would also have weird issues with the kernel being for exynos version for instance and have to get that fixed.
Tldr. Plz don't...
IMHO, The SD 820 beats the 8890 in some areas. However, To me it doesnt really matter which we have, The Device is extremely good with both. Runs a dream. However there is always the issue that development will become slightly frgamented...
We have TWRP for Exynos but not for SD devices. Plus im sure the ROM Will follow soon.
Whats interesting is that the S5 and Note 4 devices internationally came with SD 801 and 805 Respectively.
However after the S6 / Note 5 all Exynos product etc, Sammie decidied to flip that on its head :/ Personally I prefer SD chips. Solely because from previous experience they trashed Exynos and Kirin based ones. However Sammie really upped their game!
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IMHO, The SD 820 beats the 8890 in some areas. However, To me it doesnt really matter which we have, The Device is extremely good with both. Runs a dream. However there is always the issue that development will become slightly frgamented...
We have TWRP for Exynos but not for SD devices. Plus im sure the ROM Will follow soon.
Whats interesting is that the S5 and Note 4 devices internationally came with SD 801 and 805 Respectively.
However after the S6 / Note 5 all Exynos product etc, Sammie decidied to flip that on its head :/ Personally I prefer SD chips. Solely because from previous experience they trashed Exynos and Kirin based ones. However Sammie really upped their game!
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The reason Samsung didn't use the 810 last year was because it was an inferior SOC. It had a lot of heat issues. Up to that point qcom had been great. Also we have no twrp or kernels yet on SD because Samsung has only released exynos source so far for some reason -_-
consider samsung had a year with the 14nm processor, I would love to get my hand on an exynos processor. I have a feeling Samsung pay extra attention to their own processor than a snapdragon 820. Things like updates may come quicker too.
As Sammies Chip making process has grown (Yes Apple... Im looking at oyu) , its made Sammie a helluva ton'a muneh!
Seriously though, Samsung have done a good job with the last 2 gens of processors. S6 and Note 5 and the S7 8890 are nuts!
As for the sourcecode, well when its created by Samsung etc its not so bad
Back to the OP. No you cannot change the processor. Besides if it goes wrong, Warranty is instantly void
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IMHO, The SD 820 beats the 8890 in some areas. However, To me it doesnt really matter which we have, The Device is extremely good with both. Runs a dream. However there is always the issue that development will become slightly frgamented...
We have TWRP for Exynos but not for SD devices. Plus im sure the ROM Will follow soon.
Whats interesting is that the S5 and Note 4 devices internationally came with SD 801 and 805 Respectively.
However after the S6 / Note 5 all Exynos product etc, Sammie decidied to flip that on its head :/ Personally I prefer SD chips. Solely because from previous experience they trashed Exynos and Kirin based ones. However Sammie really upped their game!
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It does but there is a diffrence. When the exynos win it does it with almost 40% in single core which IS noticeable ..the sd820 only wins with up to 10% which is not ( talking about single core here). Hopefully anandtech will sink there teeth in to both socs soon and we will get a clear answer. As for boost clocks... the sd820 have a GPU boost which helps it in bursty situations but can't sustain it for long, that's the extra score in 3D for ya. But will see as time goes by..I have a feeling the exynos is the better overall
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Nope it doesn't. Read Andrei on Reddit. Total score yes, on actual performance per cycle it doesn't. 7h sot over 48h total on my exynos.
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I still had almost 20% battery left in those screenshots.
Either way, I don't think you can say the Exynos is superior. It's better at some things, sure, but the 820 also beats the Exynos in several areas. I have used both extensively and in real world usage, you can't tell a difference. Only benchmarks show the difference.
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It does but there is a diffrence. When the exynos win it does it with almost 40% in single core which IS noticeable ..the sd820 only wins with up to 10% which is not ( talking about single core here). Hopefully anandtech will sink there teeth in to both socs soon and we will get a clear answer. As for boost clocks... the sd820 have a GPU boost which helps it in bursty situations but can't sustain it for long, that's the extra score in 3D for ya. But will see as time goes by..I have a feeling the exynos is the better overall
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The best win the exynos pulls off in single core is in AES with a 57% win over the SD 820. In the same category the 820 wins sha2 with about a 40% win. And the exynos is clocked almost 20% higher... The exynos 7420 Mali GPU also had a burst clock. It ran at 650mhz unless all cores weren't loaded it would boost up to 720mhz for bursty workloads. In floating point the snapdragon pretty much wins everything despite being at a significant clock disadvantage. If we under clocked the exynos to 2.1ghz it wouldn't even be close IMO. In fact the Integer wins may be largely lost when clocks are normalized.
Qwhy don't people to a trans Atlantic phone exchange. I'm sticking with the exception exynos for the battery. Still waiting for a decent screen protector and battery case though.