B) another question: the octa core version supports 4G LTE doesnt it? or snapdragon has better 4G support?
Snapdragon 600 (1.9ghz speed, 4 cores) or Exynos 5 Octa(4 cores A15, clocked at 1.6ghz+ 4 cores 1.2GHZ A7)
1) what is faster? exynos or snapdragon?
2) which one is more effectively? (battery friendly)? (***in both high-huge use and low-idle use.. in which one battery life are better)
3) there are any benchmarks test for both of them.?
i just dont know which one is better..
Adreno 320 GPU vs PowerVR SGX 544MP3
4) which one is stronger?
5) i really dont know which version should i get.. US version(with 1.9ghz) or international(1.6ghz) their performance are really similar?
6) there is any stronger smartphone out now?
6) will the galaxy s4 have wireless charging?
MUSIC:
7) what about music? is there any quality speakers?
8) headphone will be HD/ very good quality.. ? (like in iPhone 5)?
8)
1) the snapdragon is over clocked so is supposed to be faster in cpu but the exynos won't lack behind.
2) for battery of course the exynos since only 4 cores will be running so if ur doing a low use the A7 will be running which are great for battery life and when you kick it to high use that's when the bug guns A15 come in play.
3)for the exynos no because it is not available yet but for the snapdragon it got the twice score of an iphone 5 so that gives a clear answer.
4)i think that would go to the powerVr since the exynos version is expected to be better in Gpu.
5)that depends on you.
6)of course it will but will be optional.
7) the speakers are supposed to be good than the previous models.
8) i am not sure about that but even if they aren't there are always beats.
hope i gave you a clear answer and if there is anything else you would like to know let me know.
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1) the snapdragon is over clocked so is supposed to be faster in cpu but the exynos won't lack behind.
2) for battery of course the exynos since only 4 cores will be running so if ur doing a low use the A7 will be running which are great for battery life and when you kick it to high use that's when the bug guns A15 come in play.
3)for the exynos no because it is not available yet but for the snapdragon it got the twice score of an iphone 5 so that gives a clear answer.
4)i think that would go to the powerVr since the exynos version is expected to be better in Gpu.
5)that depends on you.
6)of course it will but will be optional.
7) the speakers are supposed to be good than the previous models.
8) i am not sure about that but even if they aren't there are always beats.
hope i gave you a clear answer and if there is anything else you would like to know let me know.
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thanks for taking your time for answering me
do you think exyons 5 will be overclock-able? i hope we will be able to get 1.8ghz or something without losing battery life or something..
yes i think after rooting and few kernel releases you will be able to overclock the Cpu and maybe also the Gpu but why would you need that the exynos on the galaxy s4 is already going to be a beast and it's expected to be in par with the snapdragon and also your welcome
Actually the Exynos is better in every aspect (battery speed and gpu) clock speeds don't mean anything a15s are faster than krait fullstop
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4 core?, I guess its Octo-core Exynos
Well unless you don't use both of them, you can't figure out which one is better.
May be someone may use and let us know.
well even if the exynos is better in every aspect the biggest advantage would still be low task using so its battery saving so everything else is probably the same or little difference and what do you mean clock speeds don't mean anything ?? have you seen the benchmark difference between the galaxy s4 and the htc one ?? and i know the A155 are better than krait that's why the snapdragon is overclocked
@samsingh02 it is octa core but like 4+4 so the 8 cores will never function together it would be like A7 for the low tasks and the A15 when you are on a heavy task like gaming
anyway the thing is the snapdragon is for 4G network and the exynos for the 3G network end of story.
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well even if the exynos is better in every aspect the biggest advantage would still be low task using so its battery saving so everything else is probably the same or little difference
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I didn't bother to explain it has been done to much and speed is actually a big factor to make a long story short read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191850
and i know the A155 are better than krait that's why the snapdragon is overclocked
@samsingh02 it is octa core but like 4+4 so the 8 cores will never function together it would be like A7 for the low tasks and the A15 when you are on a heavy task like gaming
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That's the while point
anyway the thing is the snapdragon is for 4G network and the exynos for the 3G network end of story.
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Some benchmarks show Exynos having 4g compatibility
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but that would be the galaxy note 2 exynos 4 because the exynos 5 on the galaxy s4 is not out yet the only exynos 5 is on the nexus 10
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but that would be the galaxy note 2 exynos 4 because the exynos 5 on the galaxy s4 is not out yet the only exynos 5 is on the nexus 10
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Exynos 5 in the nexus 10 is dual core
But the second part
Where did Exynos 4 come from what are u talking about
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i know it's clocked at 1.7 and i was talking about the note 2 i read in the Xda here that it was available on a carrier in the U.S. with the exynos
You can see here which countries will get the octa core version and which countries will get the Snapdragon version
http://goo.gl/EePDg
B) another question: the octa core version supports 4G LTE doesnt it? or snapdragon has better 4G support?
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B) another question: the octa core version upports 4G LTE doesnt it? or snapdragon has better 4G support?
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Just to butt in, doesn't Exynos octa also have LTE support? I want to know what bands it supports.
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so confused...VOTE!
They finally released 2GB version! My prayers are heard!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/30/canadian-carriers-put-galaxy-s-iii-launch-on-june-20th/
2gb is a must required for smoother user experience like the international variants as the s4 uses more memory than exynos quad. apart from that not much of a difference on that part.
so its upto the users to decide, apart from the ram which soc is better? s4 or exynos quad
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2gb is a must required for smoother user experience like the international variants as the s4 uses more memory than exynos quad. apart from that not much of a difference on that part.
so its upto the users to decide, apart from the ram which soc is better? s4 or exynos quad
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but are the specs of the quad core processor better than the dual core s4? or they are almost the same? I noticed the att dual core hox was doing pretty well(even better than the quad core hox) and I was impressed I should say!
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but are the specs of the quad core processor better than the dual core s4? or they are almost the same? I noticed the att dual core hox was doing pretty well(even better than the quad core hox) and I was impressed I should say!
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both of them are on par on performance with one winning the others in few test, you will absolutely note no difference in performance.
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2gb is a must required for smoother user experience like the international variants as the s4 uses more memory than exynos quad. apart from that not much of a difference on that part.
so its upto the users to decide, apart from the ram which soc is better? s4 or exynos quad
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What makes you say that S4 uses more memory? Both of them don't have dedicated graphics memory like the Tegra3 so they both need to use system ram. The rest is upto the OS, the SoC has nothing to do with it.
I'd pick the dual-core, 4g LTE (and DC-HSPA on 3g which the quad-core doesn't have), 2gb ram and it's not even close.
- Similar performance
- Super fast 4g speeds
- Much faster 3g speeds thanks to DC-HSPA
- 2gb ram means less app killing to make more room for other apps which leads to smoother - more fluid UI experience
I have no idea why people would want the quad-core exynos, other than the fact that it's been released.
S4/Krait : (+) newer architecture, not exactly A15, but comparable. Good battery life. If you use LTE, I think it has integrated LTE radios.
Quad-Exynos: (+) Powerful GPU, I would believe that Samsung can optimize their software much better for Exynos compared to S4. Decent battery life. I read that they modified the architecture with options like 128-bit internal bus which is not available in other A9's.
2GB RAM to probably offset the extra memory used by S4 as we saw in the case AT&T HOX multitasking issue.
Decision is yours.
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but are the specs of the quad core processor better than the dual core s4? or they are almost the same? I noticed the att dual core hox was doing pretty well(even better than the quad core hox) and I was impressed I should say!
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Tegra 3 sucks compared to S4 but exynos is way better than Tegra 3. I would say exynos is the best currently. I'm not sure if there will be too much advantage to gain with 2gb ram. The one advantage the s4 will have over exynos is battery life.
How many of the people who are saying that s4 plus 2gb is not good actually have an option to buy it? Only guys in US who have option to go with either of the two will give you right answer.
Im going with exynos quadcore... Do i think s4 plus 2gb plus lte is better in terms of hardware? definitely yes. Then why am i getting exynos? I want 10bucks unlimited data which will be available only with the unbranded phone. And international phone will have better developer support.
Im positive that s4 version will be super fluid if you choose to go for it though. I think i have made my decision that ill will get international version for my own reasons.
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I'd pick the dual-core, 4g LTE (and DC-HSPA on 3g which the quad-core doesn't have), 2gb ram and it's not even close.
- Similar performance
- Super fast 4g speeds
- Much faster 3g speeds thanks to DC-HSPA
- 2gb ram means less app killing to make more room for other apps which leads to smoother - more fluid UI experience
I have no idea why people would want the quad-core exynos, other than the fact that it's been released.
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Your only valid point is 4G, oh well.....I will have to make do with "only" 42mB/s on DC-HSPA....yes we will have it in Sweden on the Quad core.
2GB RAM is meaningless.
Definitely getting the S4 version as soon as it hits AT&T. I hope it has the Wolfson DAC... but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't.
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2GB RAM is meaningless.
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2GB RAM is a must today. If you do not want to seeks kernels with swap option next months you need this RAM.
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Your only valid point is 4G, oh well.....I will have to make do with "only" 42mB/s on DC-HSPA....yes we will have it in Sweden on the Quad core.
2GB RAM is meaningless.
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2gb ram means faster more fluid multitasking due to Android not having to kill/reload so many apps when you run multiple things. Won't see crap like the launcher having to reload because you opened a few apps for a while. It leads to better user experience.
And how is Snapdragon S4 vs Exynos 4412 performance not similar? From benchmarks I've seen they're both extremely comparable: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview
I don't live in Sweden, so our Exynos variant doesn't have DC-HSPA......yet another reason not to waste money on that variant.
They're both good combinations and offer interesting points for technical comparison. My bet is that real world use on both is very fluid. Both are better than Tegra 3 anyways.
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Quad with 2Gb..?
Thread to thread in super Pi the S4 is just 18% faster, so it will shine a bit in a dual core scenario but will be crushed by the Exynos otherwise (4 threads).
Then the GPU of the Exynos is a lot better (S4 GPU is in the range of the SGS2) and battery drain seem comparable between the 2.
Given an option I will go for S4 (Krait) + 2GB but sadly my part of the geographical location I will get only the Quad core one
Wish they went with adreno 320 and s4 quad like thar stupid looking leaked lg phone.
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If you have LTE in your area get the 2.gb if not get the quad. Hspa + isn't exactly slow, just not comparable to LTE
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I think the decision would make it way more easy for me if there was at least a launch date in US and for AT&T specifically. But it could be fall yet before it actually makes it debut here and also depends on which carrier launches first etc.. etc...
I have the International ordered and still may cancel it if this low stock fiasco doesn't end soon... and wait to see how the US launches unfold. I'm also interested to see real life comparisons of performance between these 2 variants..
I am planning to buy S4
But I'm not sure which is better
Snapdragon 600
1.9 Ghz
Quad Core Krait 300.
or
Exynos5
1.6 Ghz Octal Core
Quad Core Cortex A15 / Quad Core A7
4g and installing roms is not important to me
Which is better in terms of performance? less lag ?
Which is better for gaming?
Yet another thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo7nJQzfWsE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Look at that review and make your mind up
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an9093 said:
I am planning to buy S4
But I'm not sure which is better
Snapdragon 600
1.9 Ghz
Quad Core Krait 300.
or
Exynos5
1.6 Ghz Octal Core
Quad Core Cortex A15 / Quad Core A7
4g and installing roms is not important to me
Which is better in terms of performance? less lag ?
Which is better for gaming?
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Hi,
Look HERE
That's a no brainer....the Exy. But does anyone really have a choice? Especially in America.
i have a choice they both are available the same price with local warrenty
The exynos here is cheaper online but for me, no 4G = no go. Since buying an S3 4G last year there is no way I can go back to 3G again.
The speed difference is enormous and 4G here costs no more than 3G. And on the Telstra network it's even better. Have hit over 50mbps on speed tests.
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dman777 said:
That's a no brainer....the Exy.
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Except it really isn't.
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Over simplifying it the Octacore version is slightly faster but has a poorer battery (4G not withstanding). Snapdragon touch slower (but faster than most phones todsy) but it'll last longer. There are lots of debates on whether the Octacore version ca be improved but this is how it stands right now as the biggest differences.
Other option is Stock version......
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Except it really isn't.
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Well, in this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeRcKHF4bDc&feature=youtu.be&a the girl states that she can not tell a difference between the two....except in GPU power. So, if you like to have less GPU power...then yes, the Qualcomm would be what you want.
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Well, in this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeRcKHF4bDc&feature=youtu.be&a the girl states that she can not tell a difference between the two....except in GPU power. So, if you like to have less GPU power...then yes, the Qualcomm would be what you want.
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You have that a little backwards: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40554113
Also, go and ask any cedarview Atom owners what they think of the PowerVR SGX54x and the driver 'support' it gets. After that fiasco I would never buy another product that has a GPU from Imagination Technologies.
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You have that a little backwards: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40554113
Also, go and ask any cedarview Atom owners what they think of the PowerVR SGX54x and the driver 'support' it gets. After that fiasco I would never buy another product that has a GPU from Imagination Technologies.
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That is interesting. But seeing for myself in that video, it is hard not to believe that the Exy GPU is better.
dman777 said:
Well, in this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeRcKHF4bDc&feature=youtu.be&a the girl states that she can not tell a difference between the two....except in GPU power. So, if you like to have less GPU power...then yes, the Qualcomm would be what you want.
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I'm still waiting to see what makes the Exynos version a 'no brainer'. Was that it?
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I'm still waiting to see what makes the Exynos version a 'no brainer'. Was that it?
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Sure, no problem....It was "Exynos takes the edge, ie camera and GPU". You can also watch the video and see...physical proof is nice.
I see. So for someone who needs 4G and has a preference for CM or AOKP the Exynos is still a 'no brainer' simply because it's performance is slightly better on certain benchmarks?
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Why are you saying Exynos GPU is better than S600? I saw benchmarks where the Adreno 320 beat the powerVR SGX544 (though benchmarks are sometimes useless ^^)
Exynooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooos
ive seen many vids on youtube about the two devices and i gotta say there not a big diffrenet in perfrmance
just get the one that available in your country
Which one do i get!?!?!?! I cant decide... help me!
I don't think i will get 4G anytime soon (too expensive on my network) so i really don't know which version to get? which on has better battery life etc..
pls help, detailed answers will be really helpful. I need to make a decision before Friday.
I suggest, go for S4 I9500 Octa-Core. Check my detailed previous reply to a similar question.
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Octa= heads, quad=tails..good luck Mine was tails and I'm very happy with it. Did you do any research yet? Enough on the web about it.
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I suggest, go for S4 I9500 Octa-Core. Check my detailed previous reply to a similar question.
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When i click to see your previous posts i get this 'Search is temporarily unavailable. We apologize for the inconvenience.'
Can you give me the link?
Thanks
I would recommend the quad core. I have the octa cor myself but the quad core is said to have better battery life and it has LOTS of custom roms
Octa core is not octa at all. It's rather dual quad. Eight cores never work at once in this cpu. This is so called big little architecture designed to save battery while keeping high cpu power. Looks like this attempt failed for now. Take a look at gsm arena comparison.
IMHO 9505 is way better deal.
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slig said:
Octa core is not octa at all. It's rather dual quad. Eight cores never work at once in this cpu. This is so called big little architecture designed to save battery while keeping high cpu power. Looks like this attempt failed for now. Take a look at gsm arena comparison.
IMHO 9505 is way better deal.
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I dont think it failed entirely. If the exynos 1.6GHz quad can beat the 1.9GHz quad Krait in terms of performance than that's a feat in itself.
Get the one which is officially sold in your country.
Gogeta_138 said:
pls help, detailed answers will be really helpful. I need to make a decision before Friday.
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Well..it's Friday did you make a decision?
Boes40 said:
Well..it's Friday did you make a decision?
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Yepp getting the quad core one.. i9505
Thanks for all the help guys
You made the best decision enjoy!
I have the octa core and i love it! Although I would add that i do not have the quad core to compare with. Both are great.
In the end it all boils down to LTE or not to LTE. I chose not to. For me, anything above 3Mbps is quite handy. And i get 6Mbps+ approx on my AT&T prepaid HSPA+.
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Octa core is not octa at all. It's rather dual quad. Eight cores never work at once in this cpu. This is so called big little architecture designed to save battery while keeping high cpu power. Looks like this attempt failed for now. Take a look at gsm arena comparison.
IMHO 9505 is way better deal.
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Actually all the 8cores could together but just not ATM , only after Hmp will be implemented.
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octa 11 hours talk time, quad 18 hours talk time, according to a review.
John.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
octa 11 hours talk time, quad 18 hours talk time, according to a review.
John.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_i9500_vs_i9505-review-930p6.php
"Performance-wise, the octa-core Exynos has a slight advantage, but that's not because of the higher number of cores. You have got to remember that only a single set of four cores is active at a any single time - either the power-sipping Cortex A7's or the number-crunching Cortex A15's.
It is evident from our tests however, that the Exynos version of the Galaxy S4 is not much more powerful than the Snapdragon 600. Furthermore, the battery life performance of the Exynos-touting variant is consistently worse than the one by the Snapdragon 600 version."
Which is why i picked i9505. Almost no difference in speed but big difference in battery. My i9505 lasts almost 2 days sometimes.
Hi I currently have an S3 i9300 and my company requires me to install MobileIron app and encrypt the whole phone; I find this slows down my phone considerably and often times I need to wait almost a minute for my app drawer to display my apps or some 20 seconds for camera to start.
Don't know if my experience with the S3 i9300 is only because of encryption app or also my processor-ram specs combination is not powerful enough to get a smooth experience.
So I'm looking to upgrade to an S4 but I don't know which version should I get based on which should be the faster one?
Should I get the 1.9GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 quad-core processor or a 1.6GHz Exynos Octa-core processor?
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Hi I currently have an S3 i9300 and my company requires me to install MobileIron app and encrypt the whole phone; I find this slows down my phone considerably and often times I need to wait almost a minute for my app drawer to display my apps or some 20 seconds for camera to start.
Don't know if my experience with the S3 i9300 is only because of encryption app or also my processor-ram specs combination is not powerful enough to get a smooth experience.
So I'm looking to upgrade to an S4 but I don't know which version should I get based on which should be the faster one?
Should I get the 1.9GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 quad-core processor or a 1.6GHz Exynos Octa-core processor?
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Octa core variant is marginally faster but does not support 4g
Snapdragon Is little slow compare to Octa core but support 4g
u can choose as per ur need
Both are good device
the i9500 is faster even though it is really a quad core phone and only 4 cores can be activated at the same time. but I've seen somewhere that Samsung said with android 5 update the phone will be a real octa core and all eight cores can be used simultaneously.
The change to a i9500/9505 for you will be very good because the s3 I9300 only has 1gig of ram compared to the i9500/i9505 that have new processors and 2gigs of ram. That extra ram will definitely make a difference.
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Octa core :good:
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the i9500 is faster even though it is really a quad core phone and only 4 cores can be activated at the same time. but I've seen somewhere that Samsung said with android 5 update the phone will be a real octa core and all eight cores can be used simultaneously.
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What are you saying, Android 5 doesn't even exist. Also the Exynos 5410 won't allow all 8 cores only the exynos 5420 can which is only in the Note 3
So based on what you said, I could even consider the Note3 which has 3gigs of ram and expect even better smoother performance? Saying I wouldn't mind the extra real state needs if I could realistically expect a noticeable improvement over currently described S3 conditions...
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4core is faster. clocked at 1.9
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So based on what you said, I could even consider the Note3 which has 3gigs of ram and expect even better smoother performance? Saying I wouldn't mind the extra real state needs if I could realistically expect a noticeable improvement over currently described S3 conditions...
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If u can go for the note 3 and u don't mind it's size ... go for the note 3 and never look back ... but i suggest u wait if you can ofc for about a month to see how the s800 against the 5420 exynos compares ... it not so much about the ram except if you are a really heavy multitasker but the cpu and gpu which we know for sure that in the snapdragon case it's a considerable improvement especially in the gpu department and we ve yet to see how the new exynos chipset will compare to it's older sibling ...
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What are you saying, Android 5 doesn't even exist. Also the Exynos 5410 won't allow all 8 cores only the exynos 5420 can which is only in the Note 3
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This is what I'm talking about. And for now note 3 is not octa core either.
Right, I cannot make my mind up so I thought I would come on here, il make it short.
Which has better performance - Snapdragon 800 OR Exynos 5420
I don't give a flying f*** about 4G or 4K. Which one has better performance i.e which is faster?
hayat55 said:
Right, I cannot make my mind up so I thought I would come on here, il make it short.
Which has better performance - Snapdragon 800 OR Exynos 5420
I don't give a flying f*** about 4G or 4K. Which one has better performance i.e which is faster?
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I would say the Snapdragon 800 because more devs would get it= more roms, better clock speed, better battery life because of chipset enhancements, faster charging because of chipset enhancements. If none of those matter to you get the Exynos version.
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hayat55 said:
Right, I cannot make my mind up so I thought I would come on here, il make it short.
Which has better performance - Snapdragon 800 OR Exynos 5420
I don't give a flying f*** about 4G or 4K. Which one has better performance i.e which is faster?
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Define performance.
Then we talk. My definition of performance is much different from that of my neighbour.
Dont you think you are showing too much attitude? How hard is it to say please? And snapdragon and exynos benchmarks are about the same
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Dont you think you are showing too much attitude? How hard is it to say please? And snapdragon and exynos benchmarks are about the same
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To be technical, it seems that Exynos benchmarks are slightly higher. However, I believe that is without the HMP update. With that, scores will skyrocket.
I can't make my mind up whether to get snapdragon 800 version or exynos 5420. By performance i mean which can do more multitasking and which can run apps faster etc
From what I've seen the scores are indeed about the same on the benchmark front. They will both be good! I'm guessing the s800 will get more dev support and probably cm. It will all be your choice, do you want lte or not.
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From what I've seen the scores are indeed about the same on the benchmark front. They will both be good! I'm guessing the s800 will get more dev support and probably cm. It will all be your choice, do you want lte or not.
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One thing that pushes me towards the exynos is that it has 1866 ram speed whereas snapdragon only has 800
Which do you think will be better in the long run?
^^^ forgot to mention that because exynos has higher ram speed then that means quicker performance.
So, which one should I get? Will there really be any difference between the performance of exynos 5420 and snapdragon 800?
You really do seem to have an attitude in your posts. Anyways, the phone isn't out yet so all anybody has is benchmarks to go by. Not a lot of real world use reviews out there to compare the two.
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I guess the ram speed can be neglected in real life usage. The s4 with the s600 feels the same as the octa version to me. And that is while the octa s4 obliterated the s600 in Antutu and some other Benchmarks. Like I've said before, if you want lte and better rom support get the s800 one. If you're really spec whoring get a 8 core exynos.
Anyways, from what I've seen so far the s800 seems to be faster in Antutu but not that much so I guess they will be at the same level of performance.
I would get any device I could get which for me is the s800 since I'm from the Netherlands.
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S800
LTE
Better support
Benchmark mean absolutely nothing and are a terrible way if measuring a phone. I've seen plenty if phones have high numbers but real world experience sucked.
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Easy. Snapdragon since there will be much more support for it from developers.
Also, don't forget, the 8-core is a lie
You have your normal 4-cores with an additional 4 'smaller' cores to handle always running less intense things. I really don't see the advantage to this, you don't get more out of benchmarks because those 4 'smaller' cores won't be used, except by some obscure background task that wouldn't slow down the benchmark anyways. It also won't help with the battery life, no matter how you spin it a clock cycle is a clock cycle.
The only time you will see gains from small memory speed increases are in things like calculating pie, so again, useless for day-to-day stuff. As other have stated, support. Qualcomm based will get AOSP based roms without any problems.
If you are looking to flaunt your meaningless bigger numbers around, by all means, get the 8-core.
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Also, don't forget, the 8-core is a lie
You have your normal 4-cores with an additional 4 'smaller' cores to handle always running less intense things. I really don't see the advantage to this, you don't get more out of benchmarks because those 4 'smaller' cores won't be used, except by some obscure background task that wouldn't slow down the benchmark anyways. It also won't help with the battery life, no matter how you spin it a clock cycle is a clock cycle.
The only time you will see gains from small memory speed increases are in things like calculating pie, so again, useless for day-to-day stuff. As other have stated, support. Qualcomm based will get AOSP based roms without any problems.
If you are looking to flaunt your meaningless bigger numbers around, by all means, get the 8-core.
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Not true anymore. They are releasing an update to run all 8 cores at the same time to make it a true octacore
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kiter86 said:
Not true anymore. They are releasing an update to run all 8 cores at the same time to make it a true octacore
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Source? Cause idk about that....
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Not true anymore. They are releasing an update to run all 8 cores at the same time to make it a true octacore
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I thought they were. Wasn't it something like a Heterogeneous or HMP update.
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Source? Cause idk about that....
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was news a few weeks ago.......
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...-update-to-become-true-octa-core-chip_id47353
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...a-software-new-hardware-not-needed-after-all/
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Not true anymore. They are releasing an update to run all 8 cores at the same time to make it a true octacore
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It can't be a true 8-core. The extra 4 cores are far less powerful then the other 4.
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It can't be a true 8-core. The extra 4 cores are far less powerful then the other 4.
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Let me tell you some preludes:
The reason behind using 8 cores was to put in a pair of four aggressively powerful quad processors like the cortex A15 with another pair of less powerful yet more power efficient four quad processors like cortex A7.
This is the main intention behind putting all these 8 cores of ARM's big.little architecture. The purpose is to let the A15s handle power hungry tasks like web page opening, playing an asphalt 8 game etc while the a7s would handle "simple" tasks. This is more vividly demoed in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwbeb08W27U
Now, the way you are saying it is not a true 8 core processor as if you are
1. demanding 8 cortex A15 processors using 28 nm technology.
Do you know/have any idea what could happen if they all be available online at the same time in this case?
or
2. you knew there was a "true" octa core processor in the world, to be (or already) implemented in another device. IF SO, point us to that device and also explain what is the ideal to call a processor true 8 core.
It was never an intention of ARM to put eight A15s (for example) available for heterogeneous multi-processing.
Go here. Again 64 bit A57s are to be paired with 32 bit A52s.
Even the S4 equipped with exynos 5410 is an octa core processor device. It is just that the bloody CCI (cache coherence interconnector, CCI400) was crippled to enable all the 8 cores available online. Once the 8 cores packed in a SoC like this it is an octa core processor device. Whether or not you like it to call true 8 core.
Samsung/ARM worked on this and released another SoC (in the form of upgraded exynos) which has a working CCI that is free from the above mentioned flaw(s) which will have Cluster Migration by default and will receive the update that is made from Linaro team to enable all the 8 cores available online and therefore will become a "TRULY WORKING" 8 core processor which is implemented in Note 3.
These are facts, these have been heavily discussed in the general section of Samsung Galaxy S4 forums.
Oh, another thing- just because all these 8 cores are made to be available online it does not mean all the 8 cores will be working Simultaneously regardless of what application is in the process. Depending on the needs of the app(s) all these 8 cores (ranging from 1 core to the extreme case- 8 cores) can be used. If an app needs 4 cores, they can be used. If it needs 6 cores then they can be used. If it needs 8 cores then they can be used.
I personally am curious to see how it be going when all the 8 cores were used for an app.
And to the OP who's demadning a straight answer, my thoughts:
we do not know anything atm how power efficient and cool it'd be to have the HMP doing all these tasks. This requires
real life buyers buy the device
start playing with it
see how hot the device becomes (compared to another exynos device like s4).
It actually depends on those stuffs. You demand the answer as if we all knew from the beginning how exynos 5420 gonna perform in real life.