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Any S3 users who went to the Nexus 4?

I dont have the dough to buy a Nexus 4 but two things I was curious about since my cousin bought one.
1. How's the battery life and how do you like the screen? Which phone is crispier, oversatured, brighter , more colored, warmer?
2. My cousin who is crazy about rooting was like it comes as plain as google makes it and didn't want to even root it. That's amazing, but don't you guys miss the custom roms and the independence and development of settings they give you? One thing I've doubted has been google's ability to follow up great product releases with good updates like independent developers do, does google really roll out good updates to make it a comparison between indie roms and their OS?

One thing I've doubted has been google's ability to follow up great product releases with good updates like independent developers do, does google really roll out good updates to make it a comparison between indie roms and their OS?
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Dafuq you talking about?

zetsui said:
I dont have the dough to buy a Nexus 4 but two things I was curious about since my cousin bought one.
1. How's the battery life and how do you like the screen? Which phone is crispier, oversatured, brighter , more colored, warmer?
2. My cousin who is crazy about rooting was like it comes as plain as google makes it and didn't want to even root it. That's amazing, but don't you guys miss the custom roms and the independence and development of settings they give you? One thing I've doubted has been google's ability to follow up great product releases with good updates like independent developers do, does google really roll out good updates to make it a comparison between indie roms and their OS?
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Bought the Nexus 4 coming from the S3, GT-I9300 Model. When I got the N4 I sold my S3 without thinking twice, and I even had money to spare! In terms of the build quality, the S3 felt like a piece of cheap plastic that I can break with my hands, on the other hand, the N4's build quality is excellent and premium.
Before I got the N4 I had an S2 and an S3, which both sported a Super Amoled screen. Now, when it comes to the argument between LCD and Amoled, it all comes down to your opinion, it took me half an hour to get used to the N4's screen and when I looked at the S3 again, I hated it's over saturated look. The thing I do miss a little from Amoled are the blacks, the N4 blacks aren't as dark.
In terms of software, I am free from Touch-wiz!!! Wow, what a relief, finally android at it's best. The N4 is miles faster than the S3, it is smoother, snappier and project butter clearly has a major effect on smoothness (Samsung basically canceled project butter in their JB updates...).
I rooted my N4 and flashed CM 10.1 on it and I am happier with that than stock, but the need to root and flash ROMs on the N4 is only for people who like doing it for fun, because stock android is very close to perfect already. When Android Key Lime Pie is released, I am sure it will be a great update and the N4 will receive it right away.
Last thing - battery. The S3's and the N4's battery life are pretty much the same so I'm not going to go into that much. Just like in the S3, if you want to improve battery life, you UC and UV using a custom kernel or you disable some apps and etc...
To sum up, I believe there is no reason for anyone who has an S3 to keep it, they can sell it, buy the N4, and still have money to spare! Besides, the N4 is definitely the superior handset.

Coming from the S3 and Note 2 and now enjoying the Nexus 4 for a week i must say it is a magnificent device. It is smooth, responsive and i xperience no lags at all. Running CM10.1 nightlies with Franco kernel. And finaly software without a manufacturers shell (Touchwizz).
Realy happy with the device so far, and will keep this one till something better comes along ( Oppo Find5 i hope).

Coming from the sgs3 I'm really enjoying my nexus. Idk to me the performance is pretty much on par (slight edge to nexus). Idk about performance on games since I'm not really into that. But I do miss having the external SD and some tw features.
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I love my nexus.
The physical phone itself is definitely much nicer than the galaxy, which I am now looking to sell. It looks sexy and feels solid, the galaxy looks and feels cheap and plastic.
I used to like the screen on the s3 but after using the Nexus for a week, the AMOLED screen is definitely less crisp (due to the pentile matrix I suspect) and the colours do look a little over saturated.
Speed wise stock android 4.2 on the Nexus is noticeably faster than the S3 running Android 4.1.2 with the Touchwiz overlay. The S3 is still a very quick phone, it's just not as quick as the N4. Also switching between apps is faster on the N4 thanks to the extra RAM.
There are pros to the S3 though. It has better battery life for some unknown reason, more storage capacity and a removable battery. If I wanted to use my phone for a lot of multimedia functions such as playing and watching music and videos, I would have kept the S3. I don't though so I'm selling it.
Apart from getting the updates first, the Nexus is the first to get fully functional versions of custom aosp roms like Cyanogenmod and AOKP. On other phones such as the S3 they usually have a lot of bugs at first.
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I had an S3 before purchasing the Nexus 4. When i received my Nexus 4, i compared both phones side by side (browser, UI, benchmarks and more)... The nexus 4 came out ahead of Samsung in almost every aspect except the picture quality of the Camera app. S3 still has the upper edge with pics.
However, the nexus 4 UI was more fluid(no lag at all) and the screen was way brighter than that of the S3
The Nexus 4 is the best and fastest device i have ever owned and the 2gb ram included is more optimized for the device than the Galaxy s3

What dothese updates look like or mean since I flashed my gs3 the day I got it
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You don't have to worry about lack of development for this phone. There are plenty of Roms to choose from for this phone. Hell, I flash between 5 different Roms daily and they are all very stable. Also I don't see how you can be doubting Google in updating their nexus line. Nexus 4 will be one of the first to get the next iteration of android, key lime pie if that does end up being its name.

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You don't have to worry about lack of development for this phone. There are plenty of Roms to choose from for this phone. Hell, I flash between 5 different Roms daily and they are all very stable. Also I don't see how you can be doubting Google in updating their nexus line. Nexus 4 will be one of the first to get the next iteration of android, key lime pie if that does end up being its name.
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And is a AOSP supported device. Therefore, you'll be ensured that custom ROMs will be highly stable as everything would be working out of the box. No bugs such as loss of functionality in WiFi, Bluetooth, Cellular data etc whereas other phones will have problems and will need to be fixed.
Development shouldn't even be a issue.

zephiK said:
And is a AOSP supported device. Therefore, you'll be ensured that custom ROMs will be highly stable as everything would be working out of the box. No bugs such as loss of functionality in WiFi, Bluetooth, Cellular data etc whereas other phones will have problems and will need to be fixed.
Development shouldn't even be a issue.
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Definitely. Development on this phone is heaven. I used CM back when I had the evo 4g lte and it was very buggy. Given over time it did become pretty darn stable, credit to the devs there. But with this phone which is already aosp development is much quicker and bug free

Who will be moving on to a new phone soon?

So it is coming on two years that this phone has been out, which means that a lot of people will have upgrades available. Who plans on upgrading to a new phone and what are you looking at getting?

At this time, I'm sticking with this phone. CM11 is giving me all I need. The phone still works well, and if I were to get a new phone, I'd have to purchase it at full price, lest I lose my unlimited data.
So, no moving to a new phone, nor do I have a reason to. Just because this phone is two years old doesn't mean it's no longer good. As long as you have an unlocked bootloader, this phone will continue to work well, especially with CM11 pumping out nightlies like crazy.

Lol, I just moved to the Razr HD from the Droid 3. I was using a Galaxy S2 HD LTE while I was stationed in Korea a few months back and the Razr is by far a superior phone to both. I'm the one that likes to tinker, so I like these older phones. I got the wife a Moto X a while back and that phone runs great. Far better battery life than my Maxx and has all the cool little functions, the coolest being the Active Display. The new Moto X looks great too but I'm sticking to the Razr. I just need basic functionality, the most important being the wifi hotspot which my iPad Air is always tethered to. Both the Moto X and Razr were purchased off contract, the Moto X was purchased off the Motorola website and the Razr through Amazon used. I am really enjoying this phone so far and was extremely happy that I was able to unlock the bootloader. Just need to wait for the unlock to be available for the Moto X and the world will be perfect! Yeah, I know about the China middleman but would prefer not to go that route. So bottom line, don't care about the new phones... Quite happy with my Razr running VZW 4.4.2 and ART Runtime. But if I was to look for a new phone, that new Moto X looks really good.
Edit: back to dalvik, phone was running stupid with art enabled on the drive to the mall and back. Couldn't run any music player Bluetooth'd to the car without the music being choppy. Don't know if it is a Bluetooth issue or art issue but didn't happen again on a short drive after switching back to dalvik. Oh well, I can run xposed again, so all is not lost!!!

I lost mine and still got another one. Had mine for one year, plan on sticking to this one for at least one more, or until something a lot better comes around.
With cm11 on it, it does everything I need to, with headroom. Dont care about new phones, at least for now.
Maybe can consider if they release a good phone with earth-shattering battery life, but I really dont see it happening so soon..
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iBolski said:
Just because this phone is two years old doesn't mean it's no longer good.
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Let's put it this way - I'm getting at least 1.5 days of battery if not more. This morning, I'm at 77% with over 13 hours not charging. I've received and sent texts, played a game or two of Madden Mobile, read email, made and received phone calls. Battery life on my non-maxx RAZR HD is awesome under CM11 with Xposed modules Greenify, Unbound and AppOpsXposed. Never got this under stock.
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iBolski said:
Let's put it this way - I'm getting at least 1.5 days of battery if not more. This morning, I'm at 77% with over 13 hours not charging. I've received and sent texts, played a game or two of Madden Mobile, read email, made and received phone calls. Battery life on my non-maxx RAZR HD is awesome under CM11 with Xposed modules Greenify, Unbound and AppOpsXposed. Never got this under stock.
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I agree, greenify and unbounce are amazing apps. The fact that notifications are still available while hibernated with greenify is awesome. Well worth the extra few bucks!! With unbounce, I'm running the old version before he went all fancy with the ui because it became too much. Just want something simple that does the job on its own like greenify. I unfortunately bricked my phone when I accidentally flashed a RAZR M ROM. I was so pissed that night that I literally went to the Best Buy page and ordered a Droid Maxx. I also ordered a new motherboard that night so now I have the RAZR Maxx HD as a backup. I plan on switching in between the two often!!

All of the new phones are going the way of obnoxious.
Screen too big, 4.7 is just right
No microSD slot, 8GB (ugh if ya haveta 16GB) base is fine...let me add my 64GB
No MHL, I want to connect an MHL to HDMI adapter and watch the movie(s) I loaded on my 64GB card on the hotel's LCD TV when I travel
No Miracast, would be much better than MHL port
No 3300maH+ battery, I like the juice time I have with my Franken XT925. The newer processing power would only greatly increase the runtime available
Too thin, The RAZR MAXX HD is just about right, just needs to be a little more sculpted like the Moto X
No Car Dock, I like an easy way to connect the charger to the phone while in the car...oh oh and I have a GPS if I want it
So basically there needs to be Generation 1 Moto X with the 805+ processor, 3300maH+ battery, microSD slot, removable back with replaceable battery (if design needed, I'm okay with putting the SD and SIM back inside with battery), 8GB onboard storage and 4GB RAM to keep up with OS upgrades for at LEAST 2 years.

not until may next year, i do want a new phone due to specs and such. android L snapdragon 810 deserve a wait and see reviews/prices of devices.
cm11 runs fine with me, just the random crash but i get 4 hours of screentime easy.
basically ill upgrade to 3000+mah 32/64GB + microSD S810 phone with 1080p/QHD under $650 USD. sony z4, lg g4 and htc m9 are on the shortlist due to their nice phones, but if sammy gets their act together with the ui in the s6 (comeon, just root, unlock bootloader and we're set with stock android L) and i might consider them. the s810 will support all lte bands so unlocked is a must. i pay $10 USD every 2 months for 100 min/texts/mb and that's all i need, no contract.

I'm looking at getting the Galaxy S5. I'm sick of Motorola being so restrictive with their bootloaders. Custom ROMs are the reason that I want an Android phone.

cschuck320 said:
I'm looking at getting the Galaxy S5. I'm sick of Motorola being so restrictive with their bootloaders. Custom ROMs are the reason that I want an Android phone.
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You think Samsung on VZW is any better? On Verizon right now, the M8 is probably the best bang-for-buck if you want a non-dev model that can be modded.
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RikRong said:
You think Samsung on VZW is any better? On Verizon right now, the M8 is probably the best bang-for-buck if you want a non-dev model that can be modded.
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After looking into it some more, I realized that it was being restricted by Verizon. Honestly, I'm going to wait for the Nexus 6

Droid Turbo or the corresponding GSM variant are starting to look real good.

Really liking the new Nexus 6 and the Droid Turbo, but...
Without a procedure for unlocking the phone, I'm not buying the Turbo. Without the Xposed Framework being updated to work with 5.0, I'm not buying the Nexus 6. I've become too dependent on root and Xposed (among other things root is good for) to go back to a locked down phone without rooting capabilities and no Xposed support. Also I'd much prefer the 5.2" screen to the 6" screen. Not ready to jump that high (yet...)
I am hoping a dev works his/her magic and figures out a way to unlock that bad boy Turbo before long. I've become so heavily dependent on Xposed to make this phone do every single thing I want it to that the RAM and processing power are sadly just not enough. And with the Turbo on 4.4.4, I could block (freeze, disable, whatever) the updates so as to not be bothered with 5.0 until Xposed is updated to run on it.
...plus I think the KitKat Moto built for this phone was half-a$$ thrown together, and the update did nothing to correct anything (made things worse from my own perspective). I may have to take the plunge into the world of Cyanogen or another custom ROM.
EDIT: Switched over to the new DirtyUnicorns ROM for my phone and everything is head and shoulders better than before - won't be updating to a new phone for a long long time now.

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It's been a roller-coaster trying to get good performance out of the XT926 and XT907. My wife and I picked them up about 6 months after they came out, and I've been following CM for most of that time. When my 907 died, she picked up a galaxy s6 edge. I kept the 926.
CM11 was great at first. Fast and snappy but missing some features and small issues. No big deal.
CM11 became bloated and slow leading up to the transition to LP. Battery life went down the drain. The phone was slower than dirt.
CM12 seemed great at first, but quickly deteriorated after a month or so of nightlies. I suffered through this for way too long before beginning the hunt for something new.
Dirty Unicorns 9.7 seemed like an improvement right after the first bootup but quickly revealed serious performance issues. I understand some older versions of Dirty Unicorns were great.
CM11 is still being maintained unofficially! Rejoice. Buttery smooth so far. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Wish I'd bothered to look back at CM11 sooner... I wonder at what point in the last 6 months the unofficial updates were able to get it running well, again. I think I'll have this phone for quite a while longer.

radiopayola said:
It's been a roller-coaster trying to get good performance out of the XT926 and XT907. My wife and I picked them up about 6 months after they came out, and I've been following CM for most of that time. When my 907 died, she picked up a galaxy s6 edge. I kept the 926.
CM11 was great at first. Fast and snappy but missing some features and small issues. No big deal.
CM11 became bloated and slow leading up to the transition to LP. Battery life went down the drain. The phone was slower than dirt.
CM12 seemed great at first, but quickly deteriorated after a month or so of nightlies. I suffered through this for way too long before beginning the hunt for something new.
Dirty Unicorns 9.7 seemed like an improvement right after the first bootup but quickly revealed serious performance issues. I understand some older versions of Dirty Unicorns were great.
CM11 is still being maintained unofficially! Rejoice. Buttery smooth so far. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Wish I'd bothered to look back at CM11 sooner... I wonder at what point in the last 6 months the unofficial updates were able to get it running well, again. I think I'll have this phone for quite a while longer.
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I may be on a jbbl, but its gotten smoother since 12.1 kernel commits started coming in. At least thats my perception of things based off of my experience. And you nailed it right on the head with 12, thats why i downgraded to 11
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Has anyone looked at the "Marshmallow" update for the XT926? Google pulls it up and there are a ridiculous number of surveys to fill out but ultimately it says to look around on xda dev.....yet I see nothing Marshmallow related here for our, now legacy, devices.

how long are you guys going to keep nexus 4 as your primary phone ??

just as the thread says how long are you guys going to keep nexus 4 as your primary phone ?? ^.^

For as long as it provides my needs. If it lasts physically then I think I'll keep it for another 2 or 3 more years .

It does whatever I need and I think it will continue to do so for a year or more, I see no point in upgrading it. I just browse the net, tapatalk, occasional games(which I can run with no problems, the specs are still above average). The camera and battery are the only problems imo. We'll see what the next Nexus will bring

I think i'll use it for a while.
I'm expecting for it to get the android L update and since 2Gb ram is enough for me, ill use it till it stops getting official OS updates and when 2Gb ram isn't going to be enough

Until it breaks I think, because I don't want larger phones, and I'm not willing leave nexus program.
I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive

I was due an upgrade in August and got a great deal including a HTC ONE M8, only problem, I really can't take to the phone. Spec wise its fantastic and I have tried to grow to like it, but there's so many things it doesn't do that my Nexus does, that i have put it back in the box and will sell it when i am allowed to after 6 months.
I will never make that mistake again, Nexus all the way from now on!
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In December my sister bring my One+ 1 so my N4 will be the one and only phone.

As soon as I can afford one

until i get an one+one invite
EDIT: just got myself a 64gb invite!!!!!!!!!!

Until it breaks.

To infinity and beyond......

I have 2 phones that I want to get:
The new Nexus. I know the 5.9" Shamu is definitely coming out, but rumors are of a 5.2" one based on the Motorola Droid Turbo for Verizon. Most likely I'll get the Shamu, because I want something BIG to play games, read ebooks, and watch videos on.
I also want to get the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact. I ride a bike everywhere, so a huge phone flopping around in my cargo shorts isn't the most convenient. The Z3C gives me a good size screen in a very small package, plus a great camera and insane battery life. And being waterproof, it's a great choice for a cyclist.
Will I retire my Nexus 4 when I get those phones? No. It'll be a test mule for my Shamu and back-up device. I actually have a back-up device, my Samsung Galaxy Light, but honestly, until an AOSP ROM comes out for it, all this laggy, infuriating piece of junk is good for is providing internet at home. Waiting 30 seconds for Facebook or 15 seconds for the dialer or messaging to load makes me want to turn it into a hockey puck.
Will I still use it as a occasional daily driver after I get those phones? Maybe. Probably. Depends on the development that comes out for the Z3C. I'm sure there'll be times I want a mini version of the Shamu, but the Z3C won't have the ROM or features I want, and I'll use the Nexus 4.
The Nexus 4 is a great phone, and despite being 2 years old, there's a lot of life still left in this old girl.

Til later this year or maybe early next year. I'm waiting to see what the N6 is like. I'm just hoping it doesn't have a 5.9" screen like some rumours are saying.

They were fetching £135 on eBay last time i checked so that's saying something!
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Until something better comes along. This thing is awesome! I recently switched to an lg g2...it sucked. Nothing, and I mean nothing(!) beats stock android.

If this phone receives android L, I'll keep it for a long time.

Apart from camera I dont see any major spec upgrade in this year's phone. So I will wait for atleast next year this time and hopefully something tempting shows up.

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Until something better comes along. This thing is awesome! I recently switched to an lg g2...it sucked. Nothing, and I mean nothing(!) beats stock android.
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nothing ?!!! battery life is nothing on lg g2 ?!!!

until it dies

Probably for at least 10 - 12 months. Doesn't make sense upgrading since the specs are still pretty good for the phone. It currently meets all my requirements. I think the most important thing to decide on an upgrade is whether the current phone,CPU,memory can keep up with the apps you use without slowing down.

Nexus 6P still a viable choice in 2017?

Hello.
I'm looking for a new phone, my budget is around 340 USD and therefore Nexus 6P has really caught my eye. I'd like to ask a couple questions.
1. If a bootloader is unlocked and then relocked, is it possible to unlock it again easily?
2. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is Nexus 6P a viable choice, despite the fact that it is 1.5 years old? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
3. How do custom ROM development prospects look right now for the device? Can I expect good custom ROM support from this device in the coming years?
4. Does the SD 810 cause problems on this phone? I recall SD 810 as an infamous SoC because of apparent overheating issues.
5. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Are there anything you don't like about the phone?
Thanks in advance.

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Hello.
I'm looking for a new phone, my budget is around 340 USD and therefore Nexus 6P has really caught my eye. I'd like to ask a couple questions.
1. If a bootloader is unlocked and then relocked, is it possible to unlock it again easily?
2. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is Nexus 6P a viable choice, despite the fact that it is 1.5 years old? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
3. How do custom ROM development prospects look right now for the device? Can I expect good custom ROM support from this device in the coming years?
4. Does the SD 810 cause problems on this phone? I recall SD 810 as an infamous SoC because of apparent overheating issues.
5. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Are there anything you don't like about the phone?
Thanks in advance.
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1. Yes. In fastboot you'd use 'fastboot flashing unlock/lock' - This is used as opposed to older devices using "OEM" instead of "flashing". You could lock and unlock it all day long.
2. Well I've had my Nexus 5 since launch. I know it's an LG, but take care of your phones and they'll last. Get a decent case and a tempered glass screen protector.
3. Check out the development section for yourself. There's mostly Lineage OS and AOSP ROMs. Some phones see Xperia / Sense / TouchWiz ROMs, MIUI, etc. The Nexus phones are going to be primarily AOSP. Check out the development forum to see anything you like.
3.A. Yes. My Nexus 5 (2013) has a dozen Android N ROMs actively being developed currently. Nexus development is supported by developers on XDA long after Google drops official support.
4. I've never had a single issue overheating. Then again, I don't game on mobile at all. Keep in mind that not all SoCs are created equal. Two fresh 810s off the assembly line will behave differently. YMMV.
5. 9.5/10. Yes I would. The only thing I don't like is button placement. Good luck trying to take a one handed screenshot. It's not bad if the phone is in your left hand, but I'm a lefty so I usually hold it in my right hand and use the left to navigate it. I have to use both hands to take one. Other than that, I've had no complaints​. I can easily see it outlasting my N5 which is pushing 4 years and still works perfect.

There are a lot of build problems with this phone. Mine has been fine so far but an alarmingly high number of people experience serious problems like the Bootloop of Death which comes without warning and turns the phone into an expensive brick. Buying a 6P is a crap shoot at this point, especially if you don't have a warranty. A lot of devs seem to have jumped ship at this point. You can check for yourself that some Roms haven't been updated in months. There's still Lineage, Cortex, Pure Nexus and Dirty Unicorns (which isn't on XDA) being updated. I wouldn't personally buy a 6P at this point and whether any of these will still be around in 3 years is anyone's guess. The phone feels like a time bomb to me even though mine is currently working more or less perfectly.

I've had my 6p since launch, I love the device however the battery just can't handle much more than a year of heavy use. I use to get close to 4 hours screen-on time before hittin 15%, now I get just under 2 hours. I would not reasonably expect the battery to last you 3-4 years, especially if you are buying a used device. Battery aside, the phone would function perfectly with its specs for 3-4 years in my opinion.

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I've had my 6p since launch, I love the device however the battery just can't handle much more than a year of heavy use. I use to get close to 4 hours screen-on time before hittin 15%, now I get just under 2 hours. I would not reasonably expect the battery to last you 3-4 years, especially if you are buying a used device. Battery aside, the phone would function perfectly with its specs for 3-4 years in my opinion.
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The battery can be replaced relatively cheaply. I'm more concerned with the potential for the Boot loop of death. I'm not sure that more than a day or two goes by on XDA without someone new saying that they just experienced it.

Is Angler still worth in 2018?

Hi all. I'm looking at a used 64gb N6P (slightly used for almost 1yr) ONLY FOR $170. original complete package. No bootloop issues (YET)
Well, I'm open for suggestions. I will use the phone as my daily driver. I'm also into rooting & custom ROMS. As for my observation, angler devs will still hold up the device for years. :fingers-crossed:
BTW, I'm coming from 32gb N6 shamu.
What do you think guys? Is it a good upgrade? Or should I buy a current $200 budget phone instead?
Thank you, and sorry if this question is old.

I also had N6 32gb shamu and just bought second hand N6P angler month ago with battery issues, i replaced the batter myself and using abc rom + elemental x with dazed 6p edition 3.1 profile. Its pretty fast and when I'm at home battery is usually at %50-60. I'm not a power user but I must say i switched for the finger print scanner and i miss N6s large screen and it was event faster too in the other hand N6P has great camera compared to N6 specially selfie one is awesome + phone feels more premium with metal back. Overall I'm happy that switched and planing to use this phone at least 1 more year.

I have literally owned 10 Nexus 6P's. Every time I try to upgrade I keep wanting my 6P again. This phone is perfect AND you get the added ability of not really needing to be TOO careful with it. A replacement is $5-600 cheaper than trying to replace a newer phone. I work on cars, so being able to not care about the phone as much when using the flash light is a plus for me. Plus its fast.

rushier.ivan said:
Hi all. I'm looking at a used 64gb N6P (slightly used for almost 1yr) ONLY FOR $170. original complete package. No bootloop issues (YET)
Well, I'm open for suggestions. I will use the phone as my daily driver. I'm also into rooting & custom ROMS. As for my observation, angler devs will still hold up the device for years. :fingers-crossed:
What do you think guys? Is it a good upgrade? Or should I buy a current $200 budget phone instead?
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The answer isn't actually simple. If you want a phone that will keep getting security updates, then an emphatic no. They are still pushing monthlies right now, but as the Android P dev preview is out and the Nexus line is no longer scheduled for any support, when the Pixel 3 drops in October, I suspect the security updates for the 6p will be dead.
So, once that happens, whatever version of most remaining updated custom ROMs are out there will likely be it. There may be the odd one who tries to kludge Android 9 onto the 6p, but when you also factor in the processor's age, it's very near EOL.
However, if you're OK with effectively staying on Oreo, for the price, it's still a good phone with a good camera. You just won't get a lot of custom ROM dev for much longer. Even in the 8 months since I was regularly using my 6p, development has dried up significantly. There are really only 3 or 4 options other than keeping it stock and doing my own customization.
I recently used an Xperia XZ Premium for about 8 months and had so many hardware failures, that I finally gave up and came back to my 6p. Aside from the noticeable performance difference with the 810 processor and a GB less of RAM, I'm actually happier using the 6p because it's better than the Xperia Xperience ever was, but that's personal preference. All I really do is use the factory image, TWRP, Magisk and then install Viper, SE Linux control and Pixel mods and the phone works the way I want.
I suspect I'll try to suck another 4 months out of the 6p then buy a Pixel 3. It'll be pricy, but stock Android, fast regular updates and a killer camera are all important to me.

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The answer isn't actually simple. If you want a phone that will keep getting security updates, then an emphatic no. They are still pushing monthlies right now, but as the Android P dev preview is out and the Nexus line is no longer scheduled for any support, when the Pixel 3 drops in October, I suspect the security updates for the 6p will be dead.
So, once that happens, whatever version of most remaining updated custom ROMs are out there will likely be it. There may be the odd one who tries to kludge Android 9 onto the 6p, but when you also factor in the processor's age, it's very near EOL.
However, if you're OK with effectively staying on Oreo, for the price, it's still a good phone with a good camera. You just won't get a lot of custom ROM dev for much longer. Even in the 8 months since I was regularly using my 6p, development has dried up significantly. There are really only 3 or 4 options other than keeping it stock and doing my own customization.
I recently used an Xperia XZ Premium for about 8 months and had so many hardware failures, that I finally gave up and came back to my 6p. Aside from the noticeable performance difference with the 810 processor and a GB less of RAM, I'm actually happier using the 6p because it's better than the Xperia Xperience ever was, but that's personal preference. All I really do is use the factory image, TWRP, Magisk and then install Viper, SE Linux control and Pixel mods and the phone works the way I want.
I suspect I'll try to suck another 4 months out of the 6p then buy a Pixel 3. It'll be pricy, but stock Android, fast regular updates and a killer camera are all important to me.
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Thank you for the response. Right, I think I can keep my shamu for a while. Maybe I'll wait for the budget pixel 3. :fingers-crossed:

Guys im wondering the same thing. I actually just got a Nexus 6P 64gb for less than 200$. I have no battery issues whatsoever but i am worried about the bootloop issues. Do you guys think i should switch phones( I still can) because of that potential issue or is the issue isolated? I mean literally every G4 eventually gets bootloop, is the Nexus 6P the same?
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GohanBurner said:
I have literally owned 10 Nexus 6P's. Every time I try to upgrade I keep wanting my 6P again. This phone is perfect AND you get the added ability of not really needing to be TOO careful with it. A replacement is $5-600 cheaper than trying to replace a newer phone. I work on cars, so being able to not care about the phone as much when using the flash light is a plus for me. Plus its fast.
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Did any of those 6P's get the bootloop problem? And for how long have you tested a Nexus 6P?