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Thinking about picking up a Maxx HD because I am starting to dislike the Gnex battery life. Its a tough decision since I would have to buy the Maxx HD off contract. Has anyone done this? Do they feel like they have given anything up (besides the ROMS). I feel with the JB leak and forthcoming official OTA it seems like the software is catching up. I know 4.2 is out there but it seems like the changes are more modular (Google Now being an update to Google Search, keyboard can be updated with root, camera can be updated with root, etc.) and am not sure 4.2 will be that critical. It seems the under the hood improvements are done in 4.1. So anyone have any thoughts on if its worth it to spend that much for the battery?
Well, I didn't come directly from Gnex to Maxx HD, but after 6 replacement Gnexes VzW let me swap out my Gnex for a Maxx. Loved the Gnex as a device, but for me it fell way short as a phone... I had constant call quality issues. I had been running mostly stock ROM's on my Gnex anyway, so flashing and modding weren't high on my priority list - I just wanted a phone that worked as a PHONE!
Right away I loved the Maxx - far superior call quality and, of course, insane batter life. All I wanted was call quality as charging my Gnex never really bothered me. That is until I got spoiled by the Maxx LOL. Not having to constantly monitor your usage in order to preserve battery was a (great) added benefit of making the switch.
Anyway, I decided to go ahead and get the Maxx HD at full retail. As much as I loved my Maxx I really missed my on screen navigation keys (as silly as that sounds). I thought I would return after the 14 days cuz $650 for on screen keys is crazy LOL. Well, today is day 15! This device is truly amazing IMO ... JB will make it that much better (so tempting to flash that leak, but I am trying to hold out for OTA).
My advice is this: if you got the cash and are on the market for a new device I'd definitely recommend the MAXX HD! Great battery, build and radios.
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Thanks for the advice. What really is putting me over the edge is I had this Android night class a couple of weeks ago. I would go into the 3.5 hour class with 100% battery or maybe less since it was at the end of the day. The room killed my reception, I had maybe a bar if I pointed it the right direction. I kid you not, the battery would be done by the end of that 3.5 hours. And I maybe sent a text or two or checked an ebay auction but it was basically unusable without the signal. So its not really about the radio, its more about the battery. Now I have times where I let it sit over night then wake up with maybe 90% if i am lucky and then its a while till I get to a power source. At work I can have it plugged in all the time if I want and in the car I can plug it it. But its starting to become a "wired" device instead of wireless since I have it plugged in all the time so I have 100% when I go somewhere. I hate having to turn this and that off to get a days worth of a charge.
I hear ya... I am not a heavy user (by my definition of the phrase), but I have been averaging about 1 day / 15 to 17 hours on my MAXX HD. Around 2-3 hours screen time, 1.5 - 2 hours of calls, about an hour or so on Pandora and sometimes there's GPS in the mix as well on a single charge.
Bad reception will kill any phone's battery, but at least with the Maxx you've got a big reservoir ...
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Coming from an Inc4G to the Maxx HD its like night and day. While I did like the Inc this phone blows it out of the water in pretty much every department, and seeing as this is my first Moto phone I am very impressed with the quality. As everyone's saying once JB comes and perhaps we get a few good devs supporting this new Razr line (read: roms and mods lol), this phone will be a BEAST
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I also went from gnex to HD Maxx. Got it first weekend of release.
I love it. It's really in a different class in terms of build quality, design, and audio. It's got the best speakerphone that I've ever heard in a cell. The battery of course is great and with our extended post-Sandy outage it's been very useful.
I had the giant extended battery on the gnex and the HD Max gets longer life.
Sure it's a drag with no JB at launch, but the leak is already out and hopefully the dev community will latch on to the phone. The HD is a serious device with a pro-quality feel to it. I haven't looked back.
John
If you have to buy off contract check out the HD dev edition.. It is unlockable just like the Gnex. I get over a days worth of battery with moderate use.
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If you have to buy off contract check out the HD dev edition.. It is unlockable just like the Gnex. I get over a days worth of battery with moderate use.
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I thought about that but I would love to just have so much battery I don't know what to do with it. I am kind of tired of turning all this stuff off in regards to saving battery. I am kind of done with ROMS, I hate flashing over and over, I just like to keep my set up. And with ICS and JB, Android is at a pretty sweet spot with Google Now being the one thing that is missing from the Razr HD a the moment. But with a leak or officially soon that will be fixed. I am getting bored with the hardware now, and I think from what I have read, the radios and call quality might be better than the Gnex. I had a Bionic for a short time and liked it.
There is a general consensus on the build quality and radios of the Moto phones... hard to beat.
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I am in the exact same boat. Using a Verizon Gnex with unlimited data plan, means I have to buy at full retail to keep it. I was set to to switch to TMO when the Nexus 4 was announced, but I found its tiny storage and no LTE underwhelming. And the Gnex/JB battery life is atrocious. ~5hrs with heavy use and moderate signal strength. And thats with the ext battery.
The HD Maxx is about the only Vzw phone I can consider though.
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this is the perfect pick for you, unbeatable battery life, even on the RazrHD, the MaxxHD is in its own league. Plus awesome build, and aosp inspired moto ui
check this out, from the other day... my Gnex couldn't touch it, so glad I switched
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I am in the exact same boat. Using a Verizon Gnex with unlimited data plan, means I have to buy at full retail to keep it. I was set to to switch to TMO when the Nexus 4 was announced, but I found its tiny storage and no LTE underwhelming. And the Gnex/JB battery life is atrocious. ~5hrs with heavy use and moderate signal strength. And thats with the ext battery.
The HD Maxx is about the only Vzw phone I can consider though.
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5 hours with extended battery!?!? that is insane
I came from a vzw gnex. Battery life was just too horrible for me to mess with anymore. My razr maxx hd is averaging 1 day 17 hours with 4.5 hrs on screen time. My gnex never got 2hrs on screen time. For these reasons im glad i switched.
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5 hours with extended battery!?!? that is insane
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OEM extended battery was only 2100mah. :-/ Hardly worthy of the name.
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Also with Team Maxx HD
I have the Maxx HD too. Signed a two year contract to get it. But all of you guys boasting about the battery, i'll need some advice. I havent really noticed the rave. i mean it's better than my epic but not by a lot. I heard after the first few charges of any new battery it reaches it's potential..Could that be it??? Also ive been using it every day for pretty much of the day but no heavy use...could that be it as well??
Last question is i wanted to put the JB leak but was afraid since it's not official from Verizon i could start seeing battery drainage..Has anyone else considered putting the JB leak on their phone?
I've had the Verizon g nex, SGSIII, Rezound, dinc 2, Droid X (lol) and the iPhone 4s. Now I have the Maxx HD and this phone smokes all of them IMO. My wife and daughter both have the SGSIII and my son has the Razr Maxx. I've done side by side with all of them and the Maxx HD wins in every department.
Some of you may say "well of course chef is gonna say this he owns a Maxx HD now!". I've had em all (except the Note 2 ) and this phone is my personal favorite.
The Note 2 is around the corner too. So maybe wait a couple weeks and play with the Maxx HD and note 2 and see which you like better if you're going to pay off contract pricing. I'm hearing reports that the Note 2 has great battery life also.
Hope that info helps ya.
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The Max HD is hands down my favorite android device. Here is how I came upon owning one.
First and foremost, I am an att customer. I have been on my family plan for years and I am always trying out new phones,whether they are att released phones or internationally released phones. I like apple's products and currently own an iPhone 5 and an iPad. I also really like a lot of thibgs about android devices and feel they are coming closer and closer to the polish that ios carries. I most recently tested out an international note 2 (good device).
For work my company uses Verizon and I have a company provided blackberry to handle my work emails and calls etc.
Anyway I live in the suburbs of new jersey, outside of art lte coverage, so lte has never really been an important feature for me. Sure I could hop on it when I work in new York city but for the most part I'm on hspa+
When hurricane sandy hit, we lost power and basically all att service. Our phones would not call out,receive calls, send texts,emails, NOTHING. on the other hand, my Verizon blackberry was our window to the world phone call wise- at this time the blackberry screen decided to **** the bed.
Then our devices (my current iPhone 5) began dying. All and all the situation was extremely frustrating. Having no cell or data service at a time where there is nothing else to do but sit in the dark and drink was a huge bummer.
This week, I caught up with one of our office administrators to discuss how we were going to replace my broken blackberry. During our discussion she brought up how it is an option to buy your own phone, and use it as one business/personal device since our service is unlimited (and it was definitely annoying to have to carry around two phones at all times)
So here I am. I walked into Verizon yesterday and purchased the Max HD. I have unlimited late everywhere I have gone so far (I have yet to see the 3g symbol). I am pulling down speeds averaging around 18mbps, and have yet to even switch wifi on. The phone is plenty snappy for everyday usage and then some. Call quality and reception are phenominal thanks to motos awesome radios
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Last night I downloaded an episode of a show I had missed via torrents. That is simply stuff you just can't do in iOS.
Tldr :
I love this phone. Build quality and performance as well as practicality and use ability as a phone is second to none.
The note 2 does have a big battery,but then again I was using the GSM international version. I haven't paid attention to any reviews of the us lte version. The quad core does run some higher end games better than the Max, but that is nit important to me. I don't have the time or the energy to play games other than casual stuff like scramble, doodle jump and rayman jungle run - all of which run fine on the Max. If you're a power user this probably is your better bet. I however am a casual user, that uses their phone heavily. This device is perfect for that. Also, motos skin is much nicer than touchwiz. The build quality is also much nicer.
Max HD, best phone you could get, and paired with my iPad for tablet use, graphically intensive games and couch use, it is the best of both worlds. I'm siked on my current setup.
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I am currently a Verizon GNex User. However after a rash of replacements I am now approved for a "Replacement Device" after comparing all the features of the Gnex I am pushing for a Maxx HD as it offers the battery life and storage capacity I am looking for plus the option for a micro SD has me excited. I have been using JB for a while so to downgrade back down to ICS will be a challenge however I know of the JB Leak and as long as it's Stock and preforms I am going to be very happy I believe. I am currently awaiting the call back from VZW Tech Support to give me the recommended replacement options. It should be noted I bought the extended life battery and Otterbox. I will be happy to toss the otterbox.
I will update when I "hopefully" get the good news.
Update ** -- They offered a Original RAZR - I indicated that I use NFC and have 32GB of storage and have an extended batter with a 4.7 inch screen. I paid 400.00 with a 2 year at launch so I would not accept anything less then a RAZR HD 16GB.
2nd Update ** -- They have now offered me a Galaxy S3 with Extended Life Battery. The Razr HD is not on the table because it is a "Iconic" premotional device.But at least I will get a great replacement with data now.
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I am currently a Verizon GNex User. However after a rash of replacements I am now approved for a "Replacement Device" after comparing all the features of the Gnex I am pushing for a Maxx HD as it offers the battery life and storage capacity I am looking for plus the option for a micro SD has me excited. I have been using JB for a while so to downgrade back down to ICS will be a challenge however I know of the JB Leak and as long as it's Stock and preforms I am going to be very happy I believe. I am currently awaiting the call back from VZW Tech Support to give me the recommended replacement options. It should be noted I bought the extended life battery and Otterbox. I will be happy to toss the otterbox.
I will update when I "hopefully" get the good news.
Update ** -- They offered a Original RAZR - I indicated that I use NFC and have 32GB of storage and have an extended batter with a 4.7 inch screen. I paid 400.00 with a 2 year at launch so I would not accept anything less then a RAZR HD 16GB.
2nd Update ** -- They have now offered me a Galaxy S3 with Extended Life Battery. The Razr HD is not on the table because it is a "Iconic" premotional device.But at least I will get a great replacement with data now.
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Iconic promotional device? Or do they just have a bunch if gs3 refurbs laying around? Are they giving you a new phone?
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just as the thread says how long are you guys going to keep nexus 4 as your primary phone ?? ^.^
For as long as it provides my needs. If it lasts physically then I think I'll keep it for another 2 or 3 more years .
It does whatever I need and I think it will continue to do so for a year or more, I see no point in upgrading it. I just browse the net, tapatalk, occasional games(which I can run with no problems, the specs are still above average). The camera and battery are the only problems imo. We'll see what the next Nexus will bring
I think i'll use it for a while.
I'm expecting for it to get the android L update and since 2Gb ram is enough for me, ill use it till it stops getting official OS updates and when 2Gb ram isn't going to be enough
Until it breaks I think, because I don't want larger phones, and I'm not willing leave nexus program.
I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive
I was due an upgrade in August and got a great deal including a HTC ONE M8, only problem, I really can't take to the phone. Spec wise its fantastic and I have tried to grow to like it, but there's so many things it doesn't do that my Nexus does, that i have put it back in the box and will sell it when i am allowed to after 6 months.
I will never make that mistake again, Nexus all the way from now on!
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In December my sister bring my One+ 1 so my N4 will be the one and only phone.
As soon as I can afford one
until i get an one+one invite
EDIT: just got myself a 64gb invite!!!!!!!!!!
Until it breaks.
To infinity and beyond......
I have 2 phones that I want to get:
The new Nexus. I know the 5.9" Shamu is definitely coming out, but rumors are of a 5.2" one based on the Motorola Droid Turbo for Verizon. Most likely I'll get the Shamu, because I want something BIG to play games, read ebooks, and watch videos on.
I also want to get the Sony Xperia Z3 Compact. I ride a bike everywhere, so a huge phone flopping around in my cargo shorts isn't the most convenient. The Z3C gives me a good size screen in a very small package, plus a great camera and insane battery life. And being waterproof, it's a great choice for a cyclist.
Will I retire my Nexus 4 when I get those phones? No. It'll be a test mule for my Shamu and back-up device. I actually have a back-up device, my Samsung Galaxy Light, but honestly, until an AOSP ROM comes out for it, all this laggy, infuriating piece of junk is good for is providing internet at home. Waiting 30 seconds for Facebook or 15 seconds for the dialer or messaging to load makes me want to turn it into a hockey puck.
Will I still use it as a occasional daily driver after I get those phones? Maybe. Probably. Depends on the development that comes out for the Z3C. I'm sure there'll be times I want a mini version of the Shamu, but the Z3C won't have the ROM or features I want, and I'll use the Nexus 4.
The Nexus 4 is a great phone, and despite being 2 years old, there's a lot of life still left in this old girl.
Til later this year or maybe early next year. I'm waiting to see what the N6 is like. I'm just hoping it doesn't have a 5.9" screen like some rumours are saying.
They were fetching £135 on eBay last time i checked so that's saying something!
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Until something better comes along. This thing is awesome! I recently switched to an lg g2...it sucked. Nothing, and I mean nothing(!) beats stock android.
If this phone receives android L, I'll keep it for a long time.
Apart from camera I dont see any major spec upgrade in this year's phone. So I will wait for atleast next year this time and hopefully something tempting shows up.
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Until something better comes along. This thing is awesome! I recently switched to an lg g2...it sucked. Nothing, and I mean nothing(!) beats stock android.
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nothing ?!!! battery life is nothing on lg g2 ?!!!
until it dies
Probably for at least 10 - 12 months. Doesn't make sense upgrading since the specs are still pretty good for the phone. It currently meets all my requirements. I think the most important thing to decide on an upgrade is whether the current phone,CPU,memory can keep up with the apps you use without slowing down.
Hi Guys,
I know I am bound to face some bias here, since this is a Note 4 forum, but I am owner of an LG G4, previously G3 and Note 2 and 3, but have also bought a Note 4. Now, of course, I should just sell my LG G4, which I happen to like very, very much. I just can't stand the less than 3 hours screen on time, and am longing for some AMOLED, larger screen, and finger-print scanner goodness on the Note 4.
Still, before I sell away my G4, thought I'd post here and get some of your experiences/opinions on this topic, especially if you have by any chance made the same decision as me?
Thanks in advance for all your advice!
I have had both since June, and honestly it's a tough call. I really like that the G4 is fully up to date, and has Stagefright patched, and overall feels much faster and snappier than the Note 4 after deleting carrier bloat. It's also smaller and lighter and sits in the hand better for me. The only thing I like about the Note 4 is the bigger and AMOLED screen (much better colors to me plus no on-screen navigation taking up space). Also, the G4 camera does better in low light - it captures more detail. With the spare battery, the G4 is fine for me, as I always carried a spare battery for my Note 4, too.
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I have had both since June, and honestly it's a tough call. I really like that the G4 is fully up to date, and has Stagefright patched, and overall feels much faster and snappier than the Note 4 after deleting carrier bloat. It's also smaller and lighter and sits in the hand better for me. The only thing I like about the Note 4 is the bigger and AMOLED screen (much better colors to me plus no on-screen navigation taking up space). Also, the G4 camera does better in low light - it captures more detail. With the spare battery, the G4 is fine for me, as I always carried a spare battery for my Note 4, too.
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Gotcha, thanks for chiming in bud! Have you rooted and custom ROM'd your Note 4? Wondering if that upped the performance on it, like the G4? I know Stagefright is also patched in Custom ROMs? Thanks again for your help!
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Gotcha, thanks for chiming in bud! Have you rooted and custom ROM'd your Note 4? Wondering if that upped the performance on it, like the G4? I know Stagefright is also patched in Custom ROMs? Thanks again for your help!
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Oh yeah, I'm on rooted, deodexed OG2 (5.0.1) ROM on T-Mobile, all bloatware deleted. It's fast, but not as fast as the G4. I'm sure that once 5.1.1 finally drops for it, whenever that will be, it will be as snappy as the G4, because people who got 5.1.1 (Sprint, and various international variants) report the performance improves vastly with the update.
Stagefright is not automatically patched in custom ROMs as they are based on the unpatched Samsung software, unless the ROM is AOSP/Cyanogen-based as far as I know. But maybe I'm wrong.
I currently own both. Staring at them right now and I can't decide which one to sell. I love them both because they each offer something different that the other doesn't. I am currently using my G4 because refreshing to hold. One of the most comfortable phones I have ever used. The other reason I'm using the G4 right now is because of battery life. Don't know what it is, but the G4 lasts a heck of a lot longer than the Note 4, bone stock and rooted. That's the one thing LG has always been good at, battery life. I remember when I had a G Pro that lasted 2 months on standby just sitting there with wifi and bluetooth on, emails were syncing and everything. Took 2 months to die. My G4 was up for 2 days straight last week when I got it and I got 5hrs of screen time. No video watching, just mostly work, texting, school(Schoology) and XDA.
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Oh yeah, I'm on rooted, deodexed OG2 (5.0.1) ROM on T-Mobile, all bloatware deleted. It's fast, but not as fast as the G4. I'm sure that once 5.1.1 finally drops for it, whenever that will be, it will be as snappy as the G4, because people who got 5.1.1 (Sprint, and various international variants) report the performance improves vastly with the update.
Stagefright is not automatically patched in custom ROMs as they are based on the unpatched Samsung software, unless the ROM is AOSP/Cyanogen-based as far as I know. But maybe I'm wrong.
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I know I am the noob to this community, but fairly certain, the 910T3 firmware especially comes with Android 5.1.1 Stock. I could be wrong though?
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I currently own both. Staring at them right now and I can't decide which one to sell. I love them both because they each offer something different that the other doesn't. I am currently using my G4 because refreshing to hold. One of the most comfortable phones I have ever used. The other reason I'm using the G4 right now is because of battery life. Don't know what it is, but the G4 lasts a heck of a lot longer than the Note 4, bone stock and rooted. That's the one thing LG has always been good at, battery life. I remember when I had a G Pro that lasted 2 months on standby just sitting there with wifi and bluetooth on, emails were syncing and everything. Took 2 months to die. My G4 was up for 2 days straight last week when I got it and I got 5hrs of screen time. No video watching, just mostly work, texting, school(Schoology) and XDA.
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Jammol - Thank you for your response. I love my G4 in form factor and also looks too, I've got the Leather Back model. But my battery life is nowhere near what you said. On the G3, it was stock, debloated, Greenified, and I still could barely hit 4 hours of SOT. On the G4, rooted, debloated, not Greenified, I am barely able to hit 2.5 hours of SOT, and that is WITHOUT gaming, extensive videos and etc. Just WiFi most of the day and long conference calls for work. Example today: 5.5 hours on battery, 4 hours of calls, 1 hour 16 minutes SOT, WiFi, and no videos, I am at 51% already! Care to share your model/variant and battery set up?
Also, you forgot to mention the upside of your Note 4 ? Care to comment on it's performance and etc compared to the G4? Thanks!
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I know I am the noob to this community, but fairly certain, the 910T3 firmware especially comes with Android 5.1.1 Stock. I could be wrong though?
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True, and there is a "hybrid" 5.1.1 ROM that you can theoretically use on the T variant, but I don't know how stable/reliable it is, given the baseband and bootloader are different.
Pesronally, I only run deodexed stock ROMs that I modify myself to my liking, as I don't like all the extra garbage and ****ty themes that most XDA devs bake into their ROMs, so I'm **** out of luck until Samsung releases the official 5.1.1 update for the T variant.
EDIT: Apparently I am out of the loop. There is Xposed for Samsung for 5.1.1 now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3180960
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True, and there is a "hybrid" 5.1.1 ROM that you can theoretically use on the T variant, but I don't know how stable/reliable it is, given the baseband and bootloader are different.
Pesronally, I only run deodexed stock ROMs that I modify myself to my liking, as I don't like all the extra garbage and ****ty themes that most XDA devs bake into their ROMs, so I'm **** out of luck until Samsung releases the official 5.1.1 update for the T variant.
Plus, there is no Xposed for 5.1.1 on Samsung devices, which is a deal-breaker for me.
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I am super "noob" confused, @siraltus - I thought 910T3 comes with Official 5.1.1 from T-Mobile US/Sammy and TEKXodous comes with Xposed 5.1.1 installer, no?
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I am super "noob" confused, @siraltus - I thought 910T3 comes with Official 5.1.1 from T-Mobile US/Sammy and TEKXodous comes with Xposed 5.1.1 installer, no?
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Yes, T3 comes with 5.1.1, but there is no offical 5.1.1 update for the regular T (not T3) variants, so we can only run a "hacked port" of 5.1.1 taken from the T3. The official update would include a T-variant baseband, bootloader, and other firmware bits (sbin, tz, etc.) that the phone needs matched up to the ROM version for trouble-free performance, the baseband being the most important.
As for Xposed, you're right - http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3180960 I had no idea.
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I know I am the noob to this community, but fairly certain, the 910T3 firmware especially comes with Android 5.1.1 Stock. I could be wrong though?
Jammol - Thank you for your response. I love my G4 in form factor and also looks too, I've got the Leather Back model. But my battery life is nowhere near what you said. On the G3, it was stock, debloated, Greenified, and I still could barely hit 4 hours of SOT. On the G4, rooted, debloated, not Greenified, I am barely able to hit 2.5 hours of SOT, and that is WITHOUT gaming, extensive videos and etc. Just WiFi most of the day and long conference calls for work. Example today: 5.5 hours on battery, 4 hours of calls, 1 hour 16 minutes SOT, WiFi, and no videos, I am at 51% already! Care to share your model/variant and battery set up?
Also, you forgot to mention the upside of your Note 4 ? Care to comment on it's performance and etc compared to the G4? Thanks!
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I touch the Note 4 first:
I love it, I really do, but for me when a dev has to release a custom Rom to fix stupid little bugs, that's a huge turn off for me. TekHD Roms are the best so far for the Note 4 and that's what I run. I love my SPen, though I don't use it every single day; I do use it for 2 weeks straight every quarter because of my job. Beats walking around with my laptop or tablet getting readings from machines. AMOLED; I don't get the hype about the blacks. I'm black and I don't even like the colour black that much(LOL, that was a pun). The screen is indeed beautiful and I love it to death, but there's something about an LCD screen that just tickles my pickle!(another one). Last but not least...the amount of Roms; DAMN!
G4:
I think it's your calls that are killing your battery. I have the T-Mobile 8511 version and I turned off VoLTE/HD Voice. It kills battery so bad when you're on a call. I was losing 5% battery for just a 10-15 minute phone call with my wife. That's ridiculous so I turned it off. I am running stock rooted, no bloat removed(there really isn't any), and I use most of LG's apps that are on there. I was using xposed at one point but that was also affecting my battery so I got rid of it.
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Yes, T3 comes with 5.1.1, but there is no offical 5.1.1 update for the regular T (not T3) variants, so we can only run a "hacked port" of 5.1.1 taken from the T3. The official update would include a T-variant baseband, bootloader, and other firmware bits (sbin, tz, etc.) that the phone needs matched up to the ROM version for trouble-free performance, the baseband being the most important.
As for Xposed, you're right - http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3180960 I had no idea.
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That's interesting bud... I haven't run across any threads saying that people are having trouble with the T variant phones on 5.1.1, maybe you've seen some? Otherwise, I am really not even sure which variant is "better" or to hope for tomorrow when I finally get the phone in hand ! Some say the T3 has a better GPS and feels smoother... I wonder if it's just big time placebo effect? Haha!
Jammol said:
I touch the Note 4 first:
I love it, I really do, but for me when a dev has to release a custom Rom to fix stupid little bugs, that's a huge turn off for me. TekHD Roms are the best so far for the Note 4 and that's what I run. I love my SPen, though I don't use it every single day; I do use it for 2 weeks straight every quarter because of my job. Beats walking around with my laptop or tablet getting readings from machines. AMOLED; I don't get the hype about the blacks. I'm black and I don't even like the colour black that much(LOL, that was a pun). The screen is indeed beautiful and I love it to death, but there's something about an LCD screen that just tickles my pickle!(another one). Last but not least...the amount of Roms; DAMN!
G4:
I think it's your calls that are killing your battery. I have the T-Mobile 8511 version and I turned off VoLTE/HD Voice. It kills battery so bad when you're on a call. I was losing 5% battery for just a 10-15 minute phone call with my wife. That's ridiculous so I turned it off. I am running stock rooted, no bloat removed(there really isn't any), and I use most of LG's apps that are on there. I was using xposed at one point but that was also affecting my battery so I got rid of it.
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Jammol, first of all, really funny response bud! I like a man who is able to take things lightly and joke around :good:! @TEKHD ROMs look like they absolutely, by far have the most users as demonstrated by it's Views and Responses! But, it's also possibly the most complicated ROM thread I have ever seen ! I really love the @TEKHD 's hard work, thank you friend! But I am not sure if it's the ROM for my needs, which, light, battery life, and just need enough tweaks to turn the Status Bar icon to Red, and change Toggle colors, and super bonus if Dialer could be black and red, and I am set! Wonder what kind of AnTuTu scores people get on that ROM?
Reading through, seems like Rapture maybe the best fit for my needs, but I just don't know. Care to share your experiences on different ROMs if you have tried those?
About the G4, I don't think AT&T offers VoLTE, but even if they do, I don't see an option to turn it off in the phone. Not to mention, how would it be working with my data off, any way?
Thanks again for your valuable input!
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That's interesting bud... I haven't run across any threads saying that people are having trouble with the T variant phones on 5.1.1, maybe you've seen some? Otherwise, I am really not even sure which variant is "better" or to hope for tomorrow when I finally get the phone in hand ! Some say the T3 has a better GPS and feels smoother... I wonder if it's just big time placebo effect? Haha!
Jammol, first of all, really funny response bud! I like a man who is able to take things lightly and joke around :good:! @TEKHD ROMs look like they absolutely, by far have the most users as demonstrated by it's Views and Responses! But, it's also possibly the most complicated ROM thread I have ever seen ! I really love the @TEKHD 's hard work, thank you friend! But I am not sure if it's the ROM for my needs, which, light, battery life, and just need enough tweaks to turn the Status Bar icon to Red, and change Toggle colors, and super bonus if Dialer could be black and red, and I am set! Wonder what kind of AnTuTu scores people get on that ROM?
Reading through, seems like Rapture maybe the best fit for my needs, but I just don't know. Care to share your experiences on different ROMs if you have tried those?
About the G4, I don't think AT&T offers VoLTE, but even if they do, I don't see an option to turn it off in the phone. Not to mention, how would it be working with my data off, any way?
Thanks again for your valuable input!
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Can I ask how come you turn off your data?
I've tried a lot of the other Roms as well but I always went back to Tek's Rom. He does have a very little customized one for the T and T3 models. It's pretty much stock with just a few tweaks to it. I've tried DynamicKat and Pop, both are really awesome but the customization is rather small on the Pop version. Rapture is already also pretty good as well as PopRocks. When it comes to AOSP/CM, I always went with CM12.1 or XenonHD which is AOSP but with a few CM tweaks.
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Can I ask how come you turn off your data?
I've tried a lot of the other Roms as well but I always went back to Tek's Rom. He does have a very little customized one for the T and T3 models. It's pretty much stock with just a few tweaks to it. I've tried DynamicKat and Pop, both are really awesome but the customization is rather small on the Pop version. Rapture is already also pretty good as well as PopRocks. When it comes to AOSP/CM, I always went with CM12.1 or XenonHD which is AOSP but with a few CM tweaks.
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I turn off data because: I am on WiFi, don't have unlimited data, and when not using data, I like to turn off the data radios to save power. Would you agree those are good reasons to turn it off?
I am so tempted to start off with Tek's ROM on my Note 4, but let's see what variant I end up with. What kind of screen on time's have you seen with the Note 4 and which ROM and Battery saving set ups? Some people hear swear by 5+ hours of SOT which would be a dream for me!
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That's interesting bud... I haven't run across any threads saying that people are having trouble with the T variant phones on 5.1.1, maybe you've seen some? Otherwise, I am really not even sure which variant is "better" or to hope for tomorrow when I finally get the phone in hand ! Some say the T3 has a better GPS and feels smoother... I wonder if it's just big time placebo effect? Haha!4
Thanks again for your valuable input!
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The T3 variant most likely exists because Samsung changed suppliers for one of the key parts, like the display controller, power management, or one of the radio chips (WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.) which required a separate version of the OS (different drivers, configuration). They did this with the Note 3 before - units manufactured after May 2014 had a different display controller chip that broke things like brightness control in custom ROMs and TWRP.
Functionally, they're most assuredly identical. I have had two T variants, one manufactured October 2014 and one manufactured April 2015 and my GPS has been rock-solid on both, so not sure why people are having issues. The T3 feels smoother not because it's a T3, but because it's running 5.1.1. People who had their international variants and Sprint variants updated to 5.1.1 reported it was much smoother after the update as well.
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The T3 variant most likely exists because Samsung changed suppliers for one of the key parts, like the display controller, power management, or one of the radio chips (WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.) which required a separate version of the OS (different drivers, configuration). They did this with the Note 3 before - units manufactured after May 2014 had a different display controller chip that broke things like brightness control in custom ROMs and TWRP.
Functionally, they're most assuredly identical. I have had two T variants, one manufactured October 2014 and one manufactured April 2015 and my GPS has been rock-solid on both, so not sure why people are having issues. The T3 feels smoother not because it's a T3, but because it's running 5.1.1. People who had their international variants and Sprint variants updated to 5.1.1 reported it was much smoother after the update as well.
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Thanks for the education again, bud. I can't believe the T variant folks haven't freaked out at T-Mobile yet for the lack of 5.1.1 upgrade! Wonder if ATT and sprint have given in their's?
I had this dilemma as well. When my wife broke her s4, I went and got g4 for her (she is a big fan of removable battery, so s6 was not considered, s5 did not make sense, and note is too big). I must say, i fell in love with it once I started setting it up and played with it for a bit. I liked it so much, that I got one myself 2 days later to replace my Note 3. And it was really great, I cannot complain. But. Ended up using Jump and getting Note 4.
So in my case:
- G4 has a great form factor. REALLY comfy to hold. 5.5 seems to be a sweet spot, still big but not too big. Slightly curved shape was great. +1 for g4
- camera is hands down better then N4. Its simply amazing. Manual mode blew my mind. Cant say enough about it. +1 for g4
- g4 felt really fluid. Stock, as is, without screwing with it. Has much less bloat. Happened to love UI a lot, its classier, for a lack of a better word (totally subjective of course). Loved the knock code functionality. N4 has fingerprint scanner, but one-hand unlock is really awkward and difficult in real-life use, so I have it turned off. Now that 5.1 is available for n4, things are better for sure, and there are custom roms star popping up, but if you compare phones as is, out of the box, again, +1 for g4
- Screen/picture quality. Using Sammys phones exclusively for last 5 years (starting from original galaxy), I am too spoiled by super amoled. as great as g4 LCD dispaly is, I found myself missing that extra "pop". +1 for n4
- battery life is not in a same league as n3/n4. By significant and noticable margin. Plus virtually no power saving functionality in OS. +1 for n4
- Sound quality better on N4 to my ears, lot of other people seem to feel this way as well. Also Samsung professional audio makes things like iRig for guitar possible. +1 for n4
- Dedicated vs. on-screen buttons. I am a huge fan of good ol' Home key and I am used to it a lot. +1 for N4
- Multitasking. Even though g4 has it, it has nothing on TW, especially on LP iteration of it, with a swap from a corner. +1 for N4
- I personally did not find myself missing s-pen a lot, but I suppose its still a +1 for N4
So, ultimately, better battery life, better screen/colors, better sound and to a lesser gegree physical keys/multitasking made me go back to Note. Miss G4 camera a lot though.)
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I turn off data because: I am on WiFi, don't have unlimited data, and when not using data, I like to turn off the data radios to save power. Would you agree those are good reasons to turn it off?
I am so tempted to start off with Tek's ROM on my Note 4, but let's see what variant I end up with. What kind of screen on time's have you seen with the Note 4 and which ROM and Battery saving set ups? Some people hear swear by 5+ hours of SOT which would be a dream for me!
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Was just curious why you turned it off. That's a good thing to do to save battery. I recommend using Tek's Rom most definitely. I noticed you said let's see what variant you end up with; are you referring to T-Mobile T and T3 or carrier variants? Definitely go with T-Mobile because of the Roms.
Tek's Roms come with the Emotion Kernel. I always use Synapse to tweak the settings to balance out performance and battery. Right now I'm using Intelliactive; sleeps like a baby.
I see someone posted that the G4 has no battery saving settings. That's totally negative. You can turn on battery saver to kick in at 15% or higher than that. Sorry but the G4 lasts a lot longer than the N4 on pure stock no mods on both.
Functionality: Note 4(SPen)
Longevity: G4.
Camera: G4
Roms: Note 4(for now as G4 community is very small at the moment)
Performance: Both
Temperature: G4(BY FAR. Stays way cooler than the Note 4)
This is all based on Stock.
Update: I decided I'm going to take my G4 back to T-Mobile; not because anything is wrong with it and I don't like it, but because I rather have the money. Looking back on my post here I realized I really just got it because I wanted to scratch an itch of having a new device. Started using my Note 4 again starting yesterday and man I did miss it, even if I gotta charge it up before the end of the day! Lol. I'm a very impulsive person when it comes to smartphones, it's the only thing I don't mind shelling out a ton of money for but then later I think back about the amount of money and just would rather have it. I can always borrow my wife's and use hers for a few days if I get the itch.
Most def Note4
Note 4 is the right choice.
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nib said:
I had this dilemma as well. When my wife broke her s4, I went and got g4 for her (she is a big fan of removable battery, so s6 was not considered, s5 did not make sense, and note is too big). I must say, i fell in love with it once I started setting it up and played with it for a bit. I liked it so much, that I got one myself 2 days later to replace my Note 3. And it was really great, I cannot complain. But. Ended up using Jump and getting Note 4.
So in my case:
- G4 has a great form factor. REALLY comfy to hold. 5.5 seems to be a sweet spot, still big but not too big. Slightly curved shape was great. +1 for g4
- camera is hands down better then N4. Its simply amazing. Manual mode blew my mind. Cant say enough about it. +1 for g4
- g4 felt really fluid. Stock, as is, without screwing with it. Has much less bloat. Happened to love UI a lot, its classier, for a lack of a better word (totally subjective of course). Loved the knock code functionality. N4 has fingerprint scanner, but one-hand unlock is really awkward and difficult in real-life use, so I have it turned off. Now that 5.1 is available for n4, things are better for sure, and there are custom roms star popping up, but if you compare phones as is, out of the box, again, +1 for g4
- Screen/picture quality. Using Sammys phones exclusively for last 5 years (starting from original galaxy), I am too spoiled by super amoled. as great as g4 LCD dispaly is, I found myself missing that extra "pop". +1 for n4
- battery life is not in a same league as n3/n4. By significant and noticable margin. Plus virtually no power saving functionality in OS. +1 for n4
- Sound quality better on N4 to my ears, lot of other people seem to feel this way as well. Also Samsung professional audio makes things like iRig for guitar possible. +1 for n4
- Dedicated vs. on-screen buttons. I am a huge fan of good ol' Home key and I am used to it a lot. +1 for N4
- Multitasking. Even though g4 has it, it has nothing on TW, especially on LP iteration of it, with a swap from a corner. +1 for N4
- I personally did not find myself missing s-pen a lot, but I suppose its still a +1 for N4
So, ultimately, better battery life, better screen/colors, better sound and to a lesser gegree physical keys/multitasking made me go back to Note. Miss G4 camera a lot though.)
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Great analysis and break down Sir, and I mostly agree. I think for now, I will move on from the G4, and perhaps return to LG with the V10.
Jammol said:
Was just curious why you turned it off. That's a good thing to do to save battery. I recommend using Tek's Rom most definitely. I noticed you said let's see what variant you end up with; are you referring to T-Mobile T and T3 or carrier variants? Definitely go with T-Mobile because of the Roms.
Tek's Roms come with the Emotion Kernel. I always use Synapse to tweak the settings to balance out performance and battery. Right now I'm using Intelliactive; sleeps like a baby.
I see someone posted that the G4 has no battery saving settings. That's totally negative. You can turn on battery saver to kick in at 15% or higher than that. Sorry but the G4 lasts a lot longer than the N4 on pure stock no mods on both.
Functionality: Note 4(SPen)
Longevity: G4.
Camera: G4
Roms: Note 4(for now as G4 community is very small at the moment)
Performance: Both
Temperature: G4(BY FAR. Stays way cooler than the Note 4)
This is all based on Stock.
Update: I decided I'm going to take my G4 back to T-Mobile; not because anything is wrong with it and I don't like it, but because I rather have the money. Looking back on my post here I realized I really just got it because I wanted to scratch an itch of having a new device. Started using my Note 4 again starting yesterday and man I did miss it, even if I gotta charge it up before the end of the day! Lol. I'm a very impulsive person when it comes to smartphones, it's the only thing I don't mind shelling out a ton of money for but then later I think back about the amount of money and just would rather have it. I can always borrow my wife's and use hers for a few days if I get the itch.
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Thanks again buddy. I must be doing something wrong with Synapse, but whenever I try to overclock the phone, somehow, tried many different Governors like Lionheart, Performance and etc, the settings go right back to normal. Do you know what I am doing wrong?
Hi,
I'm think about getting the LG2 D802. I know it's getting older - but I was looking for the following things, and after some research G2 seems like a good condidate:
- I'm not looking for something super new and expensive. As I use the phone for calls, reading eBooks while on the bus and sometimes playing a casual game. I like the screen-size.
- My previous device was HTC One X which had excellent screen with great colors. This is somehow spoiled me, and when screen quality is poor - I can see it easily
- Comes good out of the box - I used to play around with Android devices - Root them, Install custom ROM. But I don't have too much time for this those days. I heard the G2 have a decent stock rom without too much vendor junk on it.
My other option was G3, but at least from older posts, the G3 seems to have battery issues and getting warmer more often. I saw some benchmark showing the G2 being faster on menu navigation. Is is still true for those days? or the G3 problem has been fixed and I should go with it instead?
Also - I saw a friend phone with 4.2.2 and it works pretty good. I heard the 5.0 updates has some memory leaks and other issues alike? the 5.1 fixes those?
Thanks!
The phone is prettt great. But from personal experience i would not go back because of screen problems. I had a dead zone and ghosts touches. And from what i know it cannot be fixed.
Its is amaizing fast amaizing camera and still fast.
But beware of that screen problem that some people deal with including me.
The nexus 6 is a great option its going to be my next phone.
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But beware of that screen problem that some people deal with including me.
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Ermm. I wasn't aware of screen problem. How much time you own the phone? Does it happen on all models? Im planning to be D802ץ
I had it for six months.
Like i said it is an amaizing phone. But it has that one flaw. I had it on d80020y. Then updated to d80030f. But this seems to affect all models regardless of firmwire.
It doesnt matter if you never rom or root.
Research a little bit and you will see what i am talking about.
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Hi,
I have my second G2 after I broke my first one. I liked it so much, I got a new (used) one. I don't regret it! Especially when I consider the stuff what you can do with it, custom tom, this, that... I I were you I'd buy the G2 and tweak it a little bit...
Never had any screen problems! Neither with the old phone not with this one...
Still good and enugh for you.
Best advice:
Go back and read our older posts from 2 years ago when the phone was new.
Now read some of the current posts from the people who still have the device such as myself.
Long story short, there's a reason why alot of us early adopters held onto our G2s without a need to upgrade.
Its that good
new or used?
If new, there are so many other better phones to be had. I would much rather get a 2014 moto x, a nexus 5x, a oneplus x, or a used iphone 6. While the g2 was/is a fantastic phone, it does have it's shortcomings - plastic and mediocre feeling build quality(compared to the moto x, oneplus x, and iphone 6), glossy back, non-conventional button placement, camera has poor dynamic range, no marshmallow update...
If used, the g2 can be a fantastic deal if you can get it cheap enough. The only thing to keep in mind is that the battery seems to only be good for 1.5-2 years max. Also, buying a 2+ year old used phone is inherently risky and it may or many not be 100%. I bought one in seemingly mint condition for $100 not too long ago and the battery had only 50% capacity. Also, the plastic back cover is creaky which is kind of annoying - this is a common complaint.
If you don't have a super tight budget go with one of the aforementioned newer, more premium phones. You will be MUCH happier.
yes
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Still a good device, i owned one when right after release , after few months went for a Nexus 5
Who died in water
Now got myself a lg g2 again
But this time a second hands korean f320l
With spare battery and sd slot
Flashed cloudyg2 3.3 on it
And runs superb
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Still a good deal, phone is smooth as hell, the display is beautiful, the sizes are perfect (it has almost the same sizes as my 4.7" Nexus 4), if you can get a cheap one then go for it. Never had screen issues and I've been flashing things (that's when it gets really hot and screen problems can come out).
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Okiba said:
Hi,
I'm think about getting the LG2 D802. I know it's getting older - but I was looking for the following things, and after some research G2 seems like a good condidate:
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If you're buying it new and at a good price, you're getting a very special phone.
I just ordered two new batteries and some new casing - I'm going to keep this phone forever. It's already two years old.
No phone I've had has been better.
One thing. Don't get the 16gb. It's just too small now, your won't last a year more. It has to be the 32gb.
And don't bother with the G3, the battery will kill you.
Fantastic phone. I have the D801 (T-Mobile) version, and it has been problem - free from the start. Also have a Moto Maxx and a One M9, but if I could only keep one phone, I would actually choose the G2. It does everything well, and I haven't yet found a shortcoming.
Buy it!
I got my G2 D802 for £110 (brand new) on eBay (search it) . And God, it was was worth every penny. I think that unless you want a 64bit (slower) new processorprocessor, there is no reason to buy the newer budget phones like the Motorola Motor G, which are rather cheap quality with lower res screens, fatter bodies and not as good battery life.
Buy the G2, it's perfect in every way except for lack of SD card which is only a problem to some people. Also, you want to check out my review on my blog, interestconcentrated.blogspot.com/2015/09/week-2-with-g2.html. I bought less than two months, so it's very relevant. Hope it helps! ☺
Also, you might wanna check out the G3 on Ebay, it's available for £155
The default firmware sucks as it's poorly designed/ugly/slower than a custom rom like AICP. Really happy with the phone, my s3 sucks in comparison and the buttons are well placed on the g2. Only pitfall is battery life on a non-stock rom, marshmallow may fix that
Ive had the phone for about 16 months. Working perfectly fine. Nothing wrong with the phone. D802 also.
Pros -
Great screen
Great battery on Jellybean and Kitkat
Lg doesnt have too much bloatware
Sound output is best
Perfect size
Can run pretty much every game without lag
Cons -
Battery life is reduced on lollipop 5.0.2. We don't have a 5.1.
Camera is decent, nothing special.
If you do get the phone, i recommend flashing Cloudyg2 2.2. Not 3.3 which is lollipop. Just leave it at that.
Thanks everyone for your help! I think I'll be grabbing the G2. I might root it later on, but for now - it seems like a better idea is to stay on 4.2 and avoid upgrading to 5?
Thanks!
Okiba said:
Thanks everyone for your help! I think I'll be grabbing the G2. I might root it later on, but for now - it seems like a better idea is to stay on 4.2 and avoid upgrading to 5?
Thanks!
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Keep your eyes on the forums as well.
Last week I saw an update for my G2 while I was in the process of repairing my screen.
I didn't download it but my guess is its 5.1.1 for Tmobile.
I've heard 5.1.1 fixed alot of Lollipop issues for Android in general.
If and when D802 gets this version I'd recommend you investigate and see if it may be a good stock ROM to use.
Also if you ever need to replace the battery in the future, don't fret. Its very easy process and takes 15-20 minutes
The upside is amazing battery life again just like brand new
Okiba said:
Thanks everyone for your help! I think I'll be grabbing the G2. I might root it later on, but for now - it seems like a better idea is to stay on 4.2 and avoid upgrading to 5?
Thanks!
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Yes, stay on 4.4.2 20H firmware if you want to run stock. Disable all the bloat, use a different launcher and your good to go. :victory:
Just remember that all the Nexus 5.0.X firmware still had the memory leek. LG may have sorted it for there 5.0.2 but I wouldn't put money on it.
Hi, i think Lg G2 is still worth it, i bougth mine 4 months ago, and i am really happy with it.
It is fast, has Lte, a nice camera, despite it is a medium-bad camera at low light places.
I spent 250 euros on a promo. It was a nice deal i think
After i bougth it i flashed CM 12.1 eheh
I hope i could help!
Best regards
Just curious how everyone is enjoying their Moto X Pure Editions since they've been out for a little over a year now. I've left mine stock the entire time I've had it which is something new for me. As far as the phone itself is concerned I really like it. Love the screen, the size, shape, etc. However, really looking to get something else or rooting as I've had a ton of software issues. Apps not responding the way they should or crashing repeatedly . This is the first phone I've had that's actually acted this way so kind of turned off by it.
Stock here, 11 months of use, 2 updates (5 to 6.0 and the last security update) never a issue.
Just one time, the screen shows a rare horizontal lines, 1 reboot and back to normal.
The heat you ask? Yes, in chrome and YouTube, the heat is an "add on" not specified in the manual...
Great phone, but my next one is a OnePlus 3, not a Lenovorola
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Screen cracked on first one and had to play endless games with the repair department, including reporting fraud on my credit card. Both speaker grills are working on their second time falling out. Screen and glass coating are better than average on the replacement. I like the LTE bands, high res screen, and the ability to use a big microSD card. The lack of software support is the worst I've seen of an OEM phone. I had to switch to CM13 but there's nobody there who can completely fix the drivers - VoLTE breakup, proximity sensor bugs, speaker fade-out bug, no WiFi calling, poor low light camera performance, etc. I don't see myself trusting Lenovo again for many years to come.
Stock Style
Kept it still in stock. No major issues. Been using the phone with the stock Moto Screen cover plastic still in place (all moto phone have nice plastic screen guard which I never peel. Use it heavily for 3-4 days post unboxing and remove the logo, which has now dried due to screen heat, with a coin). Waiting with finger crossed for Andorid 7.
Camera app and camera as hardware was real disappointment. unlike G4 plus camera app, this phone camera app is very basic in nature. Also the camera is not comparable with other phone's of this budget. Otherwise this was an awesome deal.
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Stock here, 11 months of use, 2 updates (5 to 6.0 and the last security update) never a issue.
Just one time, the screen shows a rare horizontal lines, 1 reboot and back to normal.
The heat you ask? Yes, in chrome and YouTube, the heat is an "add on" not specified in the manual...
Great phone, but my next one is a OnePlus 3, not a Lenovorola
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Much the same experience for me. Very happy with the phone for the price (I paid UK £300 in December 2015). Still amazed at the sound quality from the speakers. Fast charging too.
I also had the horizontal lines problem about a month ago - thought the phone had died but a reboot solved it. Has only happened once.
Issues ? For me :
would like wireless charging
wish Lenovo were better with updates
maybe a bit too big - but that's my problem , not the phone's - I wanted a big display.
Bought it approx. 2 months ago (15th July, 2016) and really enjoying it all over except the display, my display is bit warmish when compared to other phone and also has a slight bleeding in left corner. I wish it had AMOLED display as the previous series. Camera gives really good pics so happy with it. Would like to know if anyone else has the same display concern as mine.
Stock rooted EU Style at 6.0.1 - so far there are no issues with the phone
Picked it up on the Prime Day sale.
It does the job and is better than my previous phone, a Nexus 4.
Minor gripes. If it gets the update to Nougat I'll be happy with what I paid for it.
It will soon be my girlfriends phone and I'm getting an iPhone 7 or Pixel X. That iPhone is just a screamer. Fast, and good looking. Would be my first Apple product.
Used to like the phone, now I'm extremely indifferent about it. I haven't had any hardware problems, but the lack of software support is extremely disappointing. The camera takes OK pictures, the battery rarely provides more than 2.5 hours SOT, and from what I can tell every custom ROM for this phone blows chunks (I've tried all the popular ones, but the CM base sucks). I've had sporadic issues with cell service, which I believe are software related, and to top it off, my phone somehow nuked itself while I was on vacation in June (I was able to get it back but I lost a bunch of stuff and had to re-setup my phone while on vacation)
I was at Disney world all day, battery died about an hour before I left the park. I got in the car, plugged it into the car charger, and while it was coming up to the battery screen it went haywire and rebooted. Then the charging screen came up and I shrugged it off. About 30 minutes later I tried to turn it back on, and it just bootlooped endlessly. So I had to pull out my laptop, use the slow hotel wifi and download the firmware, then use fastboot to re-flash everything. Luckily I use Google photos to back up pics, so I didn't lose any of the vacation photos.
For the first time in years I'm considering an iPhone. Never had to deal with this kind of crap with my old iPhone 5.
Love my Style, changed 2 screens on it, been stock since I purchased it brand new, not through choice, can't root this phone at all, I've tried every combination possible but the remote server times out requesting the token I'd so I've given up any hope of rooting it.
Apart from that the phone has been flawless, the odd heating up with certain apps which I can put up with.
Not really impressed with the way Moto/Lenovo have treated this supposed flagship in terms of updates and still no solid word from the company if our device will get nougat. It probably will get it but I would have bought a pixel xl by then.
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No major issues really (bar the obvious update void). Still love the fact that the phone is smaller than my friend's iphone 6 plus, yet the screen is larger.
First phone I've ever owned that still does not have a single scratch on the screen even though it has been naked since day one, got the phone October 17th. In fact there are very few marks on the phone overall and I've dropped it from knee height onto the road a couple of times.
I often think about wanting a new phone (only because I have G.A.S (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) but then I realise that anything I get won't really do anything that this one doesn't already do.
Waiting patiently for Nougat!
I bought the Style with extreme enthusiasm since it ran "stock" android and had an SDcard slot. My initial impressions were hopeful... it was a little laggy but other than that, it was okay, and the speakers, OH GOD the speakers. But after a month or two of using it and unlocking the bootloader, it was obvious that there were some serious issues with the phone. Lenovo/Motorola obviously didn't know what they were doing when they made the stock ROM for the device. It was always laggy for me and there were other issues as well. After tons of attempts to find an AOSP or stock rom that fixed these issues... i gave up. I just accepted that TruPureX was the best i was going to get. It made me miss my LG G2 and HTC M8. Anyways after a little under a year i did a lot of thinking and eventually made the decision that i was tired of feeling the need to flash custom firmwares, bootloaders, recoveries, etc. just to get my phone to function in the manner that I feel it should. I ended up buying a (very expensive) iPhone 6S Plus. I understand that people will most likely bash this decision and i respect your views, so respect mine. I still believe android as an OS is superior, but the OEMs just can't properly implement it into their devices in the way that Apple can. I don't regret my decision and now i have amazing battery life and everything "just works". Which isn't something i've been able to say about an android phone. I'm not advising anyone to do what i did, i respect all technology as well as your views, i'm just sharing my experience. Owning this phone annoyed my so much i switched sides (at least for a while).
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I bought the Style with extreme enthusiasm since it ran "stock" android and had an SDcard slot. My initial impressions were hopeful... it was a little laggy but other than that, it was okay, and the speakers, OH GOD the speakers. But after a month or two of using it and unlocking the bootloader, it was obvious that there were some serious issues with the phone. Lenovo/Motorola obviously didn't know what they were doing when they made the stock ROM for the device. It was always laggy for me and there were other issues as well. After tons of attempts to find an AOSP or stock rom that fixed these issues... i gave up. I just accepted that TruPureX was the best i was going to get. It made me miss my LG G2 and HTC M8. Anyways after a little under a year i did a lot of thinking and eventually made the decision that i was tired of feeling the need to flash custom firmwares, bootloaders, recoveries, etc. just to get my phone to function in the manner that I feel it should. I ended up buying a (very expensive) iPhone 6S Plus. I understand that people will most likely bash this decision and i respect your views, so respect mine. I still believe android as an OS is superior, but the OEMs just can't properly implement it into their devices in the way that Apple can. I don't regret my decision and now i have amazing battery life and everything "just works". Which isn't something i've been able to say about an android phone. I'm not advising anyone to do what i did, i respect all technology as well as your views, i'm just sharing my experience. Owning this phone annoyed my so much i switched sides (at least for a while).
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Sean89us said:
Used to like the phone, now I'm extremely indifferent about it. I haven't had any hardware problems, but the lack of software support is extremely disappointing. The camera takes OK pictures, the battery rarely provides more than 2.5 hours SOT, and from what I can tell every custom ROM for this phone blows chunks (I've tried all the popular ones, but the CM base sucks). I've had sporadic issues with cell service, which I believe are software related, and to top it off, my phone somehow nuked itself while I was on vacation in June (I was able to get it back but I lost a bunch of stuff and had to re-setup my phone while on vacation)
I was at Disney world all day, battery died about an hour before I left the park. I got in the car, plugged it into the car charger, and while it was coming up to the battery screen it went haywire and rebooted. Then the charging screen came up and I shrugged it off. About 30 minutes later I tried to turn it back on, and it just bootlooped endlessly. So I had to pull out my laptop, use the slow hotel wifi and download the firmware, then use fastboot to re-flash everything. Luckily I use Google photos to back up pics, so I didn't lose any of the vacation photos.
For the first time in years I'm considering an iPhone. Never had to deal with this kind of crap with my old iPhone 5.
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Sounds like we have similar experiences. I've never owned an Iphone but have had multiple Ipods and Ipads. I think I've grown out of the flashing game myself. I look at all the roms available for the Pure and I'm just not impressed at all. I've come from a long line of Android devices that have all had excellent development and this one has been a bust. I have also been thinking about going with an Iphone but I'm pretty terrified of getting away from the Android environment lol. I'm just to a point in my life where I want my phone to function flawlessly the majority of the time. I wasn't impressed at all with my Galaxy S5 so that's kind of turned me away from Samsung in general. I really liked my HTC devices so I may give them another look in the near future if I don't end up giving Apple the go ahead.
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Sounds like we have similar experiences. I've never owned an Iphone but have had multiple Ipods and Ipads. I think I've grown out of the flashing game myself. I look at all the roms available for the Pure and I'm just not impressed at all. I've come from a long line of Android devices that have all had excellent development and this one has been a bust. I have also been thinking about going with an Iphone but I'm pretty terrified of getting away from the Android environment lol. I'm just to a point in my life where I want my phone to function flawlessly the majority of the time. I wasn't impressed at all with my Galaxy S5 so that's kind of turned me away from Samsung in general. I really liked my HTC devices so I may give them another look in the near future if I don't end up giving Apple the go ahead.
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Yes our experiences are indeed very similar. The phone i was most impressed with was my HTC M8. The battery life that it gave with the "small" battery was amazing at that time, but my 6S+ has a similar battery, bigger screen and more powerful processor and it somehow manages to demolish the M8s battery life. I find it extremely impressive. I'm a college student and i just decided i didn't have the time to keep flashing things, etc. The only thing that i hate about iOS is the fact that you have no access to the file system. I may jailbreak and fix some things but for now i'm trying it unmodified. At least on ios you're guaranteed good software support for a good while.
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Doktaphex said:
I often think about wanting a new phone (only because I have G.A.S (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) but then I realise that anything I get won't really do anything that this one doesn't already do.
Waiting patiently for Nougat!
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This. Exactly this.
A couple of white spots on my LCD. Not a huge deal.
LCD cracked- without cracking the glass, which is a first for me.
It took a ton of work to get the battery where I needed it.
Development is dildos. ONE (brilliant) stock rom, and its developer left. All the AOSP roms have issues.
I can't believe with only 3 unlocked phones on Verizon, we don't have an abundant choice of roms. Ridiculous.
Had mine since Christmas eve. I replaced the battery thinking it was dying, turns out I just use a lot of battery-consuming apps. Aside from that, hardware has been top-knotch. No issues with software (still running Lolipop), but I rooted the day I got it and disabled updates because I heard the MM update was having tons of issues and causing pops in the speakers and battery drains, etc. and never got around to going MM.
Convinced 2 friends to get Moto X pures as well, and they both love it.
I've had the Pure since November 2015: rooted and spent most of the time on stock. Right now, I'm running Dirty Unicorns 10.6 official, which has the September 2016 update. My overall impression is: 5.5 out of 10 (10 being the best). It's a decent, middle-of-the-road phone.
PROS
Unlocked (no carrier BS)
Bright screen
Two speakers with decent sound
CDMA and GSM antennas
Decent call quality
Motomaker configured to taste
CONS
So-so battery life. My LG G3 lasted about 48 hours after full charge. My MXP lasts about 18 hours.
So-so camera. Forget about low light pictures. (Missing my LG G3 camera...)
Mediocre level of enthusiasm about the phone, i.e., it took a long time to get decent cases/screen protectors, ROM development is OK but there are more devs for other phones
Lack of Android updates from Motorola. (I prefer stock due to stability and battery life.)
Heavier than a comparable Samsung Galaxy phone for it's size.
No "wow" feature to the phone: everything is just meh.
why is it nobody mentioned about its ram.. ram management on mm is so poor. i get 600 to 800 sometimes 500 ram free with no other apps installed. pure stock no root.vthats why its so laggy at times... bought it last month for $260 with 32gb on best buy.. i thought it was a deal but cant help notice the lag sometimes. i have a lg g pro 2 3 gb ram with snapdragon 800 on 2014 model... i get 1500 free ram so why is moto x pure on 2015 model only gets 600 to 800 free ram with 3gb phone. will motorola lenovo can still fix this great phone ?
After loving my Moto X and Moto X 2014, I gave the Moto X 2015 a try. On stock It lags a good amount, battery life is below average, sound is loud but quality is bad, also when I receive notifications the sound lags in the middle of it, and the phone ran extremely hot just using social apps or playing light games.
CM13 was the only rom to bring this phone back to life for me. I underclocked the cpu and gpu because of heat and battery power increased dramatically. Notification sounds sound normal and even when underclocked, the phone is still snappy on CM13.
My gf have a Samsung Galaxy s6 with apps I use plus more and her phone didn't nearly get as hot as mines with also better battery life than I was on stock.