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Sorry about the unusual title: I'd know if there is something like porting of stock OS on Fire 2nd (the new one) for old Kindle Fire.
I thing new one got better software and is really good looking and I wish to have it on my 1st generation Fire.
Thanks.
Bladespa said:
Sorry about the unusual title: I'd know if there is something like porting of stock OS on Fire 2nd (the new one) for old Kindle Fire.
I thing new one got better software and is really good looking and I wish to have it on my 1st generation Fire.
Thanks.
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Maybe one day someone will port it
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I'd be interested in this as well. I don't see how the slightly slower processor and 512mb ram couldn't handle it.
Well, maybe there will be a bit of a lack of performance (mostly 'cause the ram is very important for Android) but I thing is worth to try.
Keep Fire 1st young
I purchase a kindle fire hdx 7" with a cracked screen on ebay, prepared to order the necessary parts from china and restore it (somewhat) to working order. I did this, only to find that the device was blacklisted. Now I would like to install a custom operating system if any such thing exists. I am not a developer for this kind of thing, so pardon my post, but every single link to cyanogen and kindle hdx is a dead link (amazon legal dept?). Any suggestions, general or specific?
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I purchase a kindle fire hdx 7" with a cracked screen on ebay, prepared to order the necessary parts from china and restore it (somewhat) to working order. I did this, only to find that the device was blacklisted. Now I would like to install a custom operating system if any such thing exists. I am not a developer for this kind of thing, so pardon my post, but every single link to cyanogen and kindle hdx is a dead link (amazon legal dept?). Any suggestions, general or specific?
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Maybe u can find out why black listed...(probably stolen).. cause u will be hard pressed installing another Rom since none really exist yet. Those links are dead cause no roms exist. Once and if the device is rooted then more doors will open. No timeframe for that however. Might wanna wait on putting any money into this device. Good luck.
cambium0 said:
I purchase a kindle fire hdx 7" with a cracked screen on ebay, prepared to order the necessary parts from china and restore it (somewhat) to working order. I did this, only to find that the device was blacklisted. Now I would like to install a custom operating system if any such thing exists. I am not a developer for this kind of thing, so pardon my post, but every single link to cyanogen and kindle hdx is a dead link (amazon legal dept?). Any suggestions, general or specific?
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Did the seller say it was blacklisted? If not, might be a buyer protection case there and you can return it.
Though seller might win if it was sold "for parts".
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Tomen8r said:
Maybe u can find out why black listed...(probably stolen).. cause u will be hard pressed installing another Rom since none really exist yet. Those links are dead cause no roms exist. Once and if the device is rooted then more doors will open. No timeframe for that however. Might wanna wait on putting any money into this device. Good luck.
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Well I messaged him asking where he'd bought it, he replied "Staples". It developed that he was in fact the original purchaser, but he went about unregistering his kindle the wrong way. He called Amazon and I've been able to register the Kindle so it worked out.
However there are a lot of blacklisted kindles on ebay that are catching my attention. I'd really be interested to know if it's possible to make use of that 2.2GHz snapdragon processor by installing some kind of android os on it to make a generic android tablet.
I've never had an Android device, so I'm probably wording it completely wrong. But I AM in technology, so I can get around and understand pretty quick.
I just bought my son a Fire HD 10 (2017 version) for his birthday. I set it all up for him and put one of his favorite games on it - Vainglory. We noticed that any time there is a decent fight on the screen, it will lag out for 2-3 seconds, and then catch back up real quick. From their website, the Fire HD 10 exceeds all the requirements to run the game smoothly, so I'm wondering if it's all the Amazon bloatware that is causing the lag. First, do you think if I replaced the Fire OS with just stock Android, would it increase performance? Do you think I'll still have these lag issues even if I put stock Android on it? Second, if you think it will help, how do I wipe the Fire OS and install stock Android?
Nobody has any suggestions?
we cannot unlock Bootloader right now, so we cannot install custom ROM on Fire HD 10 right now, one thing you can do is root the device and disable amazon apps to make it runs better
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-fire-hd-10-7th-gen-2017-root-box-t3726443
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we cannot unlock Bootloader right now, so we cannot install custom ROM on Fire HD 10 right now, one thing you can do is root the device and disable amazon apps to make it runs better
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-fire-hd-10-7th-gen-2017-root-box-t3726443
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Do you think that will help? Because I'm a button press away from posting this on craigslist. Amazon Fire products are so trash, I don't know why I bought this. An iPad 2 (7 years old) runs the game better than the newest Fire HD 10 (1 year old). Yes, I understand I only paid $150 for it, but I was optimistic about it.
I'll probably just end up spending more and get the newest iPad for $330.
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Do you think that will help? Because I'm a button press away from posting this on craigslist. Amazon Fire products are so trash, I don't know why I bought this. An iPad 2 (7 years old) runs the game better than the newest Fire HD 10 (1 year old). Yes, I understand I only paid $150 for it, but I was optimistic about it.
I'll probably just end up spending more and get the newest iPad for $330.
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Hello jrossh21 --- I read your original post twice. I realized why nobody responded with the exact solution. Time has passed and you've probably bought your son the perfect tablet for gaming. BUT, I wonder if your wife or son can spot the reason nobody has responded. Ask wife and kid(s) and make sure they read your original post ..... maybe they will have to read your original post two or more times, but I know they just might notice the reason. Anyway, do your best and make sure they read this posting from me so they know this exercise is real. Take a few days and reply to let me know if they get it or not.....we are trying to find out if anyone in your family can spot the reason nobody has responded with the exact solution. Hint: it has to do with your original post...trust me on that.
@KingRoseNot Do you have friends in real life? Read your post and maybe you will understand why I ask. Please tell me what it's like to live a lonely existence without any human contact. I really want to know. You must be a master at alienating yourself from other people. Just read your post and you will see what I mean. No, read it slowly. Maybe then you might be able to possible grasp the subtle intricacies of my question. Probably not, but maybe.
convit161 said:
we cannot unlock Bootloader right now, so we cannot install custom ROM on Fire HD 10 right now, one thing you can do is root the device and disable amazon apps to make it runs better
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-fire-hd-10-7th-gen-2017-root-box-t3726443
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Can you unlock and root your Fire HD 10 using the exploit package amonet-suez
This link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development/unlock-fire-hd-10-2017-suez-t3913639
Same, I have a fire tablet 5th gen with fire os 5.6.8.0 and trying to root without pc but no luck in finding tutorials, please help me to downgrade fire os 5.6.8.0 to 5.3.0
I would like to jailbreak this Fire and be able to add apps and use it as a dedicated device for a specific purpose. When I attempt to download the apps from the Amazon app page I see a notice that the device is not supported. I know I purchased this device in 2012 or 2013, so I know it is old.
So tell me would it be possible to jailbreak this device and put current Android OS on it and download some specific apps?
kybunnies said:
I would like to jailbreak this Fire and be able to add apps and use it as a dedicated device for a specific purpose. When I attempt to download the apps from the Amazon app page I see a notice that the device is not supported. I know I purchased this device in 2012 or 2013, so I know it is old.
So tell me would it be possible to jailbreak this device and put current Android OS on it and download some specific apps?
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Do you have a HD 8.9 or HDX 8.9? They are very different devices with different paths to FireOS freedom.
Davey126 said:
Do you have a HD 8.9 or HDX 8.9? They are very different devices with different paths to FireOS freedom.
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I have the Kindle Fire HD 8.9. If I posted in the wrong thread I apologize.
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I have the Kindle Fire HD 8.9. If I posted in the wrong thread I apologize.
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No worries. You have a 2nd generation Fire HD 8.9 code named "jem". I have the 7 inch mode code named "tate". Both can be unlocked and accommodate a variety of custom ROMs. However, the path is not easy and will take a significant investment on your part to read up on techniques an caveats and then successfully apply them to your device. The following threads should prove helpful:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hd/8-9-inch-help
https://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hd/8-9-development
Alternatively, you can purchase a package that will simplify the process. This is one example:
https://www.perfectlyandroid.com
The site may look childish but the product is the real deal. That said, it is likely the support staff has moved on as 2nd generation devices haven't been sold since 2012. You may not need them but you'd probably want to confirm availability before laying down any coin.
Keep in mind this device is 6+ years old with limited capabilities even with a custom ROM. A $40 phone from WalMart will easily run circles around this pup.
Good luck.
So it would probably be better to purchase a new/newer device for what I want. I mainly want the device to use as a dedicated bible with bible apps. I have a new Kindle Fire 7 inch with a 64 GB micro SD card. But with having 20-50 books , Calibre Companion, Moon+Reader pro and one bible app takes up all memory. This is before adding any additional purchases from the bible app. I have it where apps are suppose to be stored on the SD card but that does not help. I honestly hate getting rid of this Kindle Fire 8.9 since it is still working and holds a charge. I admit that I have side loaded most of the apps I want but I can't get one app to login so my info/notes will sync. This is why I thought about jailbreaking the device to see if I could get a new version of the app installed. Maybe I wold be better off searching for a refurbished iPad or buying a new Kindle Fire 8 or 10 inch. Something to think about.
Thanks so much for the help.
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So it would probably be better to purchase a new/newer device for what I want. I mainly want the device to use as a dedicated bible with bible apps. I have a new Kindle Fire 7 inch with a 64 GB micro SD card. But with having 20-50 books , Calibre Companion, Moon+Reader pro and one bible app takes up all memory. This is before adding any additional purchases from the bible app. I have it where apps are suppose to be stored on the SD card but that does not help. I honestly hate getting rid of this Kindle Fire 8.9 since it is still working and holds a charge. I admit that I have side loaded most of the apps I want but I can't get one app to login so my info/notes will sync. This is why I thought about jailbreaking the device to see if I could get a new version of the app installed. Maybe I wold be better off searching for a refurbished iPad or buying a new Kindle Fire 8 or 10 inch. Something to think about.
Thanks so much for the help.
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Installing a different Android version on any of the Amazon Fire's requires a custom rom.
Installing a custom rom requires either a unlocked bootloader or root access.
None of the 5th gen or newer have any means of unlocking the bootloader, and only the 7th gen HD 10 has a root method, but no custom roms.
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sd_shadow said:
Installing a different Android version on any of the Amazon Fire's requires a custom rom.
Installing a custom rom requires either a unlocked bootloader or root access.
None of the 5th gen or newer have any means of unlocking the bootloader, and only the 7th gen HD 10 has a root method, but no custom roms.
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Please do not take my response as being smart/snarky. I honestly do not understand a word you said except I can't jailbreak any Kindle Fire that is 5th generation or newer.
Only reason I want to jail break this one is because I cannot install a couple of apps that I want.
kybunnies said:
Please do not take my response as being smart/snarky. I honestly do not understand a word you said except I can't jailbreak any Kindle Fire that is 5th generation or newer.
Only reason I want to jail break this one is because I cannot install a couple of apps that I want.
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Jailbreak is an iPhone thing, does not apply to Android or in this case FireOS.
If is to just an apps problem, that doesn't necessarily mean you need to do any modifications like root.
The apps just do not install?
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sd_shadow said:
Jailbreak is an iPhone thing, does not apply to Android or in this case FireOS.
If is to just an apps problem, that doesn't necessarily mean you need to do any modifications like root.
The apps just do not install?
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Okay I am showing how much I do not know about this stuff.
When I go to the app page at Amazon my device is not supported. The app is free so I have downloaded it and tried to sideload it. Again it will not install. I have found older versions of the app and some will install but they will not allow me to login and sync my info. I can login to the apps website via the device without any problems. The Wi-Fi signal is strong so that is not the problem. On my Kindle Fire purchased in July (used for digital books) the apps installs easily and I am able to log in.
Yes I know it would be easier to just put the app on the newer Kindle but the screen is smaller and some of the older adults at church enjoy seeing/reading all the different versions I pull up on the Bible. I just want to put the app on the larger screen Kindle and make it easier for everyone to see.
I'm debating on picking up the Fire HD 10 2021 edition during Prime Day sale. Are there ways to put actual android OS rom on it or just adding Play store, google services and stuff with the toolkit. Typically I'd try to do more research but time is a bit limited on the sale so any help would be appreciated. I use to flash roms on phones in the past and just curious if there is any support or ability to do that with the Fire HD tablets. Thanks in advance!
GeekyWilliam said:
I'm debating on picking up the Fire HD 10 2021 edition during Prime Day sale. Are there ways to put actual android OS rom on it or just adding Play store, google services and stuff with the toolkit. Typically I'd try to do more research but time is a bit limited on the sale so any help would be appreciated. I use to flash roms on phones in the past and just curious if there is any support or ability to do that with the Fire HD tablets. Thanks in advance!
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Here's the thing with loading custom roms on any 2019 or newer fire tablet nowadays. No one's been able to find any exploits on the tablets because Amazon has been cracking down on the MediaTek exploits that we would usually be able to use. Especially with the newer OS, I really don't think that anyone will find anything that they can do with unlocking the bootloader and flashing a new ROM since it's basically all been patched.
In terms of Google Play Services and apps, I haven't tried this on the HD 10 2021, but it is most likely possible because I use them just fine on my HD 8 Plus 2020 running the same operating system. So Google Play Store is (most likely) achievable. Hope this helps!
Are the Amazon Fire tablets rootable at all? Able to Magisk? I would like to get into rooting and was hopping we could with this device
Galaxy-Geek#1 said:
Are the Amazon Fire tablets rootable at all? Able to Magisk? I would like to get into rooting and was hopping we could with this device
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Well, yes and no. I know that sounds pretty vague, but it's because it really depends on the tablets.
So recently, people haven't been able to find any exploits that will give them root access to newer tablets, and without an unlockable bootloader, Magisk is definitley out of the question.
On some of the older tablets, as you probably have already seen, there are unlockable bootloaders, but this involves a lot of work to the tablet in terms of software and it isn't as simple as a command like "fastboot oem unlock" (unfortunately).
Basically, I don't think that root will be possible on the HD 10 2021, or at least anytime soon, because the rooting on the older tablets were done by finding exploits in the CPU and Preloader, and then using those exploits to use a hacked bootloader and recovery, and then those would patch the OS to allow you to mod those as much as possible, including giving you the ability to root. Amazon has patched these exploits and no one has been able to use one of the more popular "temporary" root solutions (mtk-su) with the newer tablets since the 2019 HD 10.
So, for now at least, you'll be out of luck.
GeekyWilliam said:
I'm debating on picking up the Fire HD 10 2021 edition during Prime Day sale. Are there ways to put actual android OS rom on it or just adding Play store, google services and stuff with the toolkit. Typically I'd try to do more research but time is a bit limited on the sale so any help would be appreciated. I use to flash roms on phones in the past and just curious if there is any support or ability to do that with the Fire HD tablets. Thanks in advance!
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Did you buy that Fire? I did. Then I immediately ran Fire Toolox (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/windows-tool-fire-toolbox) to make it run like normal Android.
One thing you'll find is that, even though you're able to install the Play Store and do a few more things with the ToolBox, any Amazon tablet running their Fire OS 7.x.x.x versions won't be able to do much with Google apps having to do with communications, that use push notifications (such as Hangouts or Chat). Something likely to do with how Google Play Services is working or interacting with Fire OS. It just won't allow it to work.
I've got Google Chat installed on my 2019 9th gen HD 10 and it had been able to be used to read and respond to received posts, just no notifications on incoming (I relied on another straight Android device for alerts). But sometime in the past two weeks an update to either Chat or (probably) Play Services occurred that makes Chat immediately close when I attempt to open an existing conversation. Bad news since Google is finally announcing the impending shutdown of the IM portion of Hangouts. Hoping to find out more about that on this forum.
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Did you buy that Fire? I did. Then I immediately ran Fire Toolox (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/windows-tool-fire-toolbox) to make it run like normal Android.
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Did same
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Did same
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This is not an option anymore to disable ads on the lockscreen??