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So I'm in a debate with myself to buy the Kindle Fire. I've been wanting a tablet for a while, but something cheap. $200 is definitely within my price range.
I'd want to flash a custom ROM to it so that I'm not just using it as an eBook reader, I'd like to use it as a regular Android tablet. How is the support for something like Cyanogenmod? Would it be worth buying to use as a regular tablet?
Thanks for the input!
there should be all the information you request:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420390
and here the source for cm7:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1390773
Fantastic links, that was exactly what I was looking for! Thanks mucho for that!
glad to help ...
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TBH, the nook tablet looks better than the kindle fire, BUT I think the kindle is going to get more developer support due to the sheer amount sold during the holidays.
True. There is no point in having better hardware if you have nothing to use it with.
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As some know today the kindle Fire HDX has been revealed.
Amazon thing is that it has super powerful hardware.
At 2.2 GHz
2 GB of RAM
Front and Back Cameras
This will certainly will be Kindle Fire and Kindle Fire HD killer.
I made this thread up for discussions. What do you guys think of this new tablet and do you think you will buy it, because the price is just Amazing!! May even be better than the Nexus 7 FHD.....
404-Not Found said:
As some know today the kindle Fire HDX has been revealed.
Amazon thing is that it has super powerful hardware.
At 2.2 GHz
2 GB of RAM
Front and Back Cameras
This will certainly will be Kindle Fire and Kindle Fire HD killer.
I made this thread up for discussions. What do you guys think of this new tablet and do you think you will buy it, because the price is just Amazing!! May even be better than the Nexus 7 FHD.....
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It is very likely that Amazon has learned from their mistakes, and the next generation of KFs won't be as "easy" to crack. The Original KF forums are still just as active as they were before the 2nd gen devices came out, so I don't think there will be any shortage of development for either any time soon.
soupmagnet said:
It is very likely that Amazon has learned from their mistakes, and the next generation of KFs won't be as "easy" to crack. The Original KF forums are still just as active as they were before the 2nd gen devices came out, so I don't think there will be any shortage of development for either any time soon.
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Yeah, but probably Amazon might be open development now. Most OEMs are now having Unlockable BLs. Hopefully, this is the same case for amazon. But that might not be a good strategy if they want to make money through the HDX. But let's accept it, things like the Amazon Appstore suck.
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Even though now I am using Nexus 7 2013 32gb model but when amazon announce new kindle fire HDX, I feel I will take this one.
When cyanogenmod arrived in this HDX,it will be perfect
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Yeah, but probably Amazon might be open development now. Most OEMs are now having Unlockable BLs. Hopefully, this is the same case for amazon. But that might not be a good strategy if they want to make money through the HDX. But let's accept it, things like the Amazon Appstore suck.
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I have my doubts that they are open to development mainly because of the article posted in the HD 7” general forums, it said amazon was roughly breaking even on their kindle sales with appstore purchases and such. I hate to be pessimistic, but one can hope, personally I am hoping, think I'm going to see what I can find out about that processor.
Edit: hmmm well I looked it up online here, I don't see any mentions of security implementations, and as usual amazon seems to have slightly underclocked the processor, probably to give more battery lifetime or something. I find it interesting how this processor has the WiFi and Bluetooth and even the lte stuff all in one chip, and there is more than one model of the chip, they make models without lte, some with CDMA, and some with no support, so I'm guessing we might be seeing slightly different models across the devices for the lte versions. If this stuff is common, please excuse my ignorance, I'm more familiar with a PC processor than a phone processor. Interesting that this processor says it handles USB 3.0... Anyone find an article with some kinda security function that this processor might have? I couldn't find any on a basic Google search.
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stunts513 said:
I have my doubts that they are open to development mainly because of the article posted in the HD 7” general forums, it said amazon was roughly breaking even on their kindle sales with appstore purchases and such. I hate to be pessimistic, but one can hope, personally I am hoping, think I'm going to see what I can find out about that processor.
Edit: hmmm well I looked it up online here, I don't see any mentions of security implementations, and as usual amazon seems to have slightly underclocked the processor, probably to give more battery lifetime or something. I find it interesting how this processor has the WiFi and Bluetooth and even the lte stuff all in one chip, and there is more than one model of the chip, they make models without late, some with CDMA, and some with no support, so I'm guessing we might be seeing slightly different models across the devices for the lte versions. If this stuff is common, please excuse my ignorance, I'm more familiar with a PC processor than a phone processor. Interesting that this processor says it handles USB 3.0... Anyone find an article with some kinda security function that this processor might have? I couldn't find any on a basic Google search.
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I think there is a FCC link around here
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Hi guys, I've never used any kindle device before but the price and specs of Kindle Fire HDX got me all excited and I wanna buy it but in one condition and that is if it has Google Play. I hate Amazon Appstore it doesn't have 90% of the apps that Google Play has. What's the point of buying this powerful device if I can't play latest & greatest games and use different apps? I heard that kindle fire hd is rootable and can be converted to android? So I just wanna know if it's possible to could get access to all google play apps and games and play them on this device after it get released?
Thank You
Ishan Sardar said:
Hi guys, I've never used any kindle device before but the price and specs of Kindle Fire HDX got me all excited and I wanna buy it but in one condition and that is if it has Google Play. I hate Amazon Appstore it doesn't have 90% of the apps that Google Play has. What's the point of buying this powerful device if I can't play latest & greatest games and use different apps? I heard that kindle fire hd is rootable and can be converted to android? So I just wanna know if it's possible to could get access to all google play apps and games and play them on this device after it get released?
Thank You
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No one is sure, until the device is released. There is Software Spec Sheet line around somewhere but until now, we got wait. We probably will be able to take root and android but that may take some time.
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I will buy this device for sure, my actual Kindle Fire is getting old and Amazon has put a really nice price in the HDX 7. After all tech need to be updated once a year approximately
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Can somebody pls tell if they can port the new Fire OS 3.0 to the kindle fire HD 2nd Gen?? The 3rd gen kindle fire HD has been released...... and also what would happen if I just flash the new firmware on the 2nd gen??
karanrcb said:
Can somebody pls tell if they can port the new Fire OS 3.0 to the kindle fire HD 2nd Gen?? The 3rd gen kindle fire HD has been released...... and also what would happen if I just flash the new firmware on the 2nd gen??
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STOP.... DONT FLASH ANYTHING NO ONE IS FOR SURE IT WILL WORK. PROBABLY A HDX ROM WONT WORK ON A KF2 SONCE THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT HARDWARE THE KF2 WONT HANDLE SO MUCH.
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STOP.... DONT FLASH ANYTHING NO ONE IS FOR SURE IT WILL WORK. PROBABLY A HDX ROM WONT WORK ON A KF2 SONCE THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT HARDWARE THE KF2 WONT HANDLE SO MUCH.
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LOL...Calm down, I am not doing it!! Just asking!!
BTW I was talking about the new HD version with Fire OS 3.0, not the HDX version.....
karanrcb said:
LOL...Calm down, I am not doing it!! Just asking!!
BTW I was talking about the new HD version with Fire OS 3.0, not the HDX version.....
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You just want to watch the world burn don't you?
Lol, no DONT flash, it will brick it due to Hardware issues.
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You just want to watch the world burn don't you?
Lol, no DONT flash, it will brick it due to Hardware issues.
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LOL.... XD
Nope, I am not flashing anything, but why shoudn't the devs try to port Fire OS 3.0?? I hope they can do it...... It is not much difference in the hardware too.
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LOL.... XD
Nope, I am not flashing anything, but why shoudn't the devs try to port Fire OS 3.0?? I hope they can do it...... It is not much difference in the hardware too.
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Probably, but it's a too difficult, and really the KF doesn't have the hardware you need for Fire OS. Its like trying to say a 1998 PC(No Upgrades) will be able to run Windows 8. Devs could port of but its too much work and not really worth it.
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Probably, but it's a too difficult, and really the KF doesn't have the hardware you need for Fire OS. Its like trying to say a 1998 PC(No Upgrades) will be able to run Windows 8. Devs could port of but its too much work and not really worth it.
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Hmmmm...... I know how hard it is. And yeah a waste of time too!! i would rather see CM on the HDX..... that would be awesome!!
It already has
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@androvista Yeah, The last post was from October, we are now in December things have changed....
@androvista Yeah, The last post was from October, we are now in December things have changed....
Hello Guys,
I am new here and I just got an old Kindle Fire HD 10 Gift from a friend who said he doesn’t need it anymore.
So I had set it up, put my account to it and found….. It is sooo bloated with all that amazon stuff… It’s ridiculous…. I would say that I do not need like 80% of that stuff and totally miss like google mail, proper YouTube app and a lot more I have not found until now.
So I was looking now for like 3 days, whenever I had the time to search for it, if there is a custom Rom for the Kindle, or maybe root to get Google on the Kindle or how it is to be done to get apps maybe from my phone to the kindle.
Amazon made it really hard for users who are not sucked into the amazon universe to actually enjoy the Kindle, don’t they?
I have a bunch of paid apps in Google, they seem to be all useless now… what really kind of bugs me, because I had hoped to use the kindle as a comic book reader, where I use Comicat on android… no idea if kindle can even open them, but I’ll have to try.
So I would like to ask, are there some ways to root an Kindle Fire HD 10 with Fire OS 5.6.1.0 ? If so, how to do that and are there Custom Roms that would give a more basic Android feel?
I only found mostly some tutorials for 7” and 8”, but rarely for the 10” Tablet and nearly always for other Fire OSes.
So every help would be REALLY appreciated!
Follow this tutorial to get root https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-fire-hd-10-7th-gen-2017-root-box-t3726443
To make it more stock like after you have rooted you can remove apps using root
You can also install google play store + apps from it by following this https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603
You can also replace the default launcher with another like Nova but at the moment it uses a hack to get around a limitation even on root (Launcher Hijack)
You can also install xposed and there is modules on that which should give back some of your missing features https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/hd-10-2017-xposed-t3722252
At the moment there is no custom rom but some are in development.
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Follow this tutorial
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Awesome, thank you very much, I will check everything and hope to have the Kindle a bit more.... Userfriedly, well, MEfriendly.
It would be indeed really cool if there is at least a bit I can do. Otherwise the Kindle would become more like an Videoplayer for my Kids than anything else... this would be a bit o a waste, as the device itself seems pretty nice.
Edit: The first and third Tutorial are for the 7th Gen HD8/10 Tablets, I have the 5th Gen. Wont there be a problem??
Fathor said:
Awesome, thank you very much, I will check everything and hope to have the Kindle a bit more.... Userfriedly, well, MEfriendly.
It would be indeed really cool if there is at least a bit I can do. Otherwise the Kindle would become more like an Videoplayer for my Kids than anything else... this would be a bit o a waste, as the device itself seems pretty nice.
Edit: The first and third Tutorial are for the 7th Gen HD8/10 Tablets, I have the 5th Gen. Wont there be a problem??
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Sorry for a late reply.
I'm not sure whether it works or not on older tablets, but there won't be a problem. Try it, I'm 99% sure that your tablet will be perfectly okay even it failed, because I tried that and failed, but I'm sending this from my tablet.
Good Luck! :good:
I've never had an Android device, so I'm probably wording it completely wrong. But I AM in technology, so I can get around and understand pretty quick.
I just bought my son a Fire HD 10 (2017 version) for his birthday. I set it all up for him and put one of his favorite games on it - Vainglory. We noticed that any time there is a decent fight on the screen, it will lag out for 2-3 seconds, and then catch back up real quick. From their website, the Fire HD 10 exceeds all the requirements to run the game smoothly, so I'm wondering if it's all the Amazon bloatware that is causing the lag. First, do you think if I replaced the Fire OS with just stock Android, would it increase performance? Do you think I'll still have these lag issues even if I put stock Android on it? Second, if you think it will help, how do I wipe the Fire OS and install stock Android?
Nobody has any suggestions?
we cannot unlock Bootloader right now, so we cannot install custom ROM on Fire HD 10 right now, one thing you can do is root the device and disable amazon apps to make it runs better
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-fire-hd-10-7th-gen-2017-root-box-t3726443
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we cannot unlock Bootloader right now, so we cannot install custom ROM on Fire HD 10 right now, one thing you can do is root the device and disable amazon apps to make it runs better
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-fire-hd-10-7th-gen-2017-root-box-t3726443
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Do you think that will help? Because I'm a button press away from posting this on craigslist. Amazon Fire products are so trash, I don't know why I bought this. An iPad 2 (7 years old) runs the game better than the newest Fire HD 10 (1 year old). Yes, I understand I only paid $150 for it, but I was optimistic about it.
I'll probably just end up spending more and get the newest iPad for $330.
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Do you think that will help? Because I'm a button press away from posting this on craigslist. Amazon Fire products are so trash, I don't know why I bought this. An iPad 2 (7 years old) runs the game better than the newest Fire HD 10 (1 year old). Yes, I understand I only paid $150 for it, but I was optimistic about it.
I'll probably just end up spending more and get the newest iPad for $330.
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Hello jrossh21 --- I read your original post twice. I realized why nobody responded with the exact solution. Time has passed and you've probably bought your son the perfect tablet for gaming. BUT, I wonder if your wife or son can spot the reason nobody has responded. Ask wife and kid(s) and make sure they read your original post ..... maybe they will have to read your original post two or more times, but I know they just might notice the reason. Anyway, do your best and make sure they read this posting from me so they know this exercise is real. Take a few days and reply to let me know if they get it or not.....we are trying to find out if anyone in your family can spot the reason nobody has responded with the exact solution. Hint: it has to do with your original post...trust me on that.
@KingRoseNot Do you have friends in real life? Read your post and maybe you will understand why I ask. Please tell me what it's like to live a lonely existence without any human contact. I really want to know. You must be a master at alienating yourself from other people. Just read your post and you will see what I mean. No, read it slowly. Maybe then you might be able to possible grasp the subtle intricacies of my question. Probably not, but maybe.
convit161 said:
we cannot unlock Bootloader right now, so we cannot install custom ROM on Fire HD 10 right now, one thing you can do is root the device and disable amazon apps to make it runs better
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-fire-hd-10-7th-gen-2017-root-box-t3726443
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Can you unlock and root your Fire HD 10 using the exploit package amonet-suez
This link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development/unlock-fire-hd-10-2017-suez-t3913639
Same, I have a fire tablet 5th gen with fire os 5.6.8.0 and trying to root without pc but no luck in finding tutorials, please help me to downgrade fire os 5.6.8.0 to 5.3.0
Hey all,
I just had a live chat with Amazon rep, and they told me fire TV 1st generation has one more update before ending support for the device. What now ?. It's a nice device that looks better next to TV then fire TV cube.
It's got to have aging hardware. The first Gen fire stick is useless today. It is so slow and infuriating to use.
The second Gen fire TV is nice. However, Evan that doesn't even support the new Alexa remote with TV control.
It might be time to think about a 4k stick for $50 or non 4k for $40.
Do you take advantage of SD or USB on your first Gen?
I know I will miss the USB port on my second Gen when it's time.
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laidbackcloud said:
Hey all,
I just had a live chat with Amazon rep, and they told me fire TV 1st generation has one more update before ending support for the device. What now . It's a nice device that looks better next to TV then fire TV cube.
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If you're talking about the origin Fire TV the flat one not the stick I have both the 1st and 2nd generation and still think they were the best Amazon TV devices made. No more updates would not or does not bother me they work great and side loaded apps also work great. I customize Sticks for family and friends but I still use the original devices in my bedroom and living room and will do for as long as they work. Actually I read somewhere that the new sticks will start to block some of the more interesting apps available via side loading, but cannot confirm this.
I have three 1st gen Fire TVs and they still work great. It would be cool if the OS could be upgraded to a newer version of Android.
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I have three 1st gen Fire TVs and they still work great. It would be cool if the OS could be upgraded to a newer version of Android.
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Thats the last thing that worries me all I know is I side load 3 versions of Kodi and Smart IPTV and both the 1st and 2nd run great, what worries me more is if the newer model are being setup to stop these apps from running
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If you're talking about the origin Fire TV the flat one not the stick I have both the 1st and 2nd generation and still think they were the best Amazon TV devices made. No more updates would not or does not bother me they work great and side loaded apps also work great. I customize Sticks for family and friends but I still use the original devices in my bedroom and living room and will do for as long as they work. Actually I read somewhere that the new sticks will start to block some of the more interesting apps available via side loading, but cannot confirm this.
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I'm talking about flat Amazon fire TV 1st gen box, not stick. I paid 100$ for it when it came out. I asked the Amazon rep about fire os 6, and sadly , it will not be upgraded to that.
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If you're talking about the origin Fire TV the flat one not the stick I have both the 1st and 2nd generation and still think they were the best Amazon TV devices made. No more updates would not or does not bother me they work great and side loaded apps also work great. I customize Sticks for family and friends but I still use the original devices in my bedroom and living room and will do for as long as they work. Actually I read somewhere that the new sticks will start to block some of the more interesting apps available via side loading, but cannot confirm this.
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I know this post is about a year old. Are you still using FTV 2 ? Mine seems like it has gotten slower lately. I wonder if Amazon is guilty of the same thing Apple was sued for
My main box that I use in my living room is the Fire TV generation 2 with 4K and it's still working well. I have a new Fire Stick as backup but for me the original flat boxes were the best. So to answer your question the FTV 2 is working today at 100%
JeffATL said:
Mine seems like it has gotten slower lately
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A slow/cheap SDcard could cause slowdowns and lags...
Well mine is working OK I am using it now maybe time to factory restore and rebuild yours maybe, just a thought
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A slow/cheap SDcard could cause slowdowns and lags...
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Well mine is working OK I am using it now maybe time to factory restore and rebuild yours maybe, just a thought
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Thanks. I did move a lot of apps to SD card because I was running out of internal space. I am not sure the brand/model of microsd but I will speed test on my pc later. But the homescreen navigation runs. I also have issues with Netflix and Youtube TV. I may try your advice and rebuild.
I have a first gen stick too. I wonder if there is any value to that or if Amazon can take it as a trade in for a new one.
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Thanks. I did move a lot of apps to SD card because I was running out of internal space. I am not sure the brand/model of microsd but I will speed test on my pc later. But the homescreen navigation runs. I also have issues with Netflix and Youtube TV. I may try your advice and rebuild.
I have a first gen stick too. I wonder if there is any value to that or if Amazon can take it as a trade in for a new one.
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The Fire TV 2nd generation which to me was the best design and the best Amazon Fire ever made as a value as for the first Fire Stick not worth much there I think its so slow. What ever Amazon Fire you have fill it with crap and it will slow down you must leave enough memory for buffering when you stream.
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The Fire TV 2nd generation which to me was the best design and the best Amazon Fire ever made as a value as for the first Fire Stick not worth much there I think its so slow. What ever Amazon Fire you have fill it with crap and it will slow down you must leave enough memory for buffering when you stream.
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A Firestick 1st gen just sold on ebay for $28 plus $7 shipping?
The first Fire TV was OK and still works today, but the 2nd generation Fire TV was the best Amazon ever sold as you can add a SD card and transfer apps onto the card. One thing the all have in common is the same smalll memory to stream you need a lot of memory I moved all my apps the the SD card and have over a GB left of internal memory so it works fast. You have to remember that Amazon add a load of apps that most don't want or need yet they cannot be deleted I have deleted they're data but it always comes back using up internal space.
Whatever to keep the TV2 running fast you need to move as much data to the SD card just leaving the Amazon crap
Getting the low storage issue on Gen 1, and now the Gen 2 is showing low storage even though there is plenty of storage I think Amazon as added something to try and ruin these older boxes. Anyway given my Gen 1 to my son and put my Gen 2 in the bedroom and as I found a unwanted gift cheap on the bay I bought a Cube. Yet I still think the Amazon Fire TV 2nd Gen was the best device they ever made just a shame Amazon never updated them with new firmware and memory/storage they would sell I am sure. The Cube is good yet I still think the Fire TV 2nd gen flat box is still a great one to use and I will never get rid of mine.