I'm trying to decide if I'm going to own the AT&T galaxy s7 edge. This is just my observation, but it seems that there are fewer root options and less custom user development with each new model of the Samsung Galaxy S phones from AT&T. This seems to be more with with AT&T versions because they seem to be trying to do everything in their power to limit users from rooting their phones. This may go further than AT&T, but that's where my experience is limited to. I'd go with another carrier or buy an unlocked one, but I just can't justify the cost when my job pays for the phone and the bill. Worst case scenario is that I'll just stop rooting my phone rather than buy one somewhere else, but I love the flexibility and options it gives me. There are many custom functions I enjoy on my phone made possible by rooting it.
So my question to the community is this, and please share your thoughts even if you disagree:
Do you too also see a decline in the root options and custom development effort in AT&T Galaxy S phones over the years? Do you think this is going to change? And are there other phones you feel are better to own with comparable functionality to the Galaxy S series that receive much more custom user development support? Thank you all!
There is no question that development has fallen away on ATT phones - primarly because of the locked bootloader that ATT started back with the S4 - is has only gotten worse since then.
I am on ATT and I stopped buying ATT phones after the S4. The flexibility and options that are open to me using a TMobile phone on ATT are worth whatever additional cost to me so I just deal with it. I am fortunate, I have a good job and my wife doesn't bi..ch too much.
Custom Rom Developoment on the S6 and Note 5 for all carriers seemed to be less overall than I remember on the Note 4 and the S5 before that - maybe because Samsung pissed everyone off when they didn't include an External SD Card and they elminated the removal battery. The Exynos Processor probably played a big role too - I hope we see more on the S7 and S7 edge....
It's probably not a good idea if you want to use CM on ATT S7. And I would recommend you to get oneplus or nexus if you want to use CM or other custom ROMs.
Edited: I am also considering getting tmobile S7 for att use. Just don't know if that gonna work.
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I have had to stick with ATT since it is the only signal to penetrate the building I am in. My S4 was a T-Mobile model which was all unlocked with good amount of development. My s5 is w8 Canadian model also with pretty good development. I actually considered getting an ATT s7 but I'm sure I would soon be dissatisfied with stock only. Plus 30 months of $26 extra bill for device would be terrible. So I am going to wait and buy another international one when available for less than 6 or 7 hundred bucks.
I left ATT for one of these reasons, got so sick and tired of their Nazi BS crappy way of doing things the past couple of years. I used to LOL at Verizon for being the worst, well ATT has far surpassed them for the worst carrier in the U.S. ( Not talking network )
Back in the day, the ATT Note 2 was AWESOME, and tons of XDA development available for that phone, and then the Note 3 things started to change, and only got worse. The S4 was a disaster, at first it was rootable and had development, then ATT passed an update, and totally locked down that phone.
Plus their billing sucks, my monthly bill was never consistent, even though I was on a good plan. Every month my bill was a little higher, or way higher, but never exactly what it should be.
Fast forward to last Summer, My wife and I moved to T-Mobile at the launch of the Note 5, pick up the T-Mobile Note 5, and both are rooted running a great ROM. And T-Mobile's monthly bill, for seven months straight, been exactly the same, no funny business.
I'm with AT&T for the past two years. Two years ago AT&T kicked T-Mobile off all their cell towers in my area, and my signal became nonexistent. I ordered an S7 Edge through T-Mobile. Once the phone is unlocked, works fine on AT&T network. I won't buy another AT&T phone. I was lucky with my S5. I used the Towel Root exploit, and was lucky to have not updated.....
Thanks everyone! I really appreciate the feedback! Since work will buy the phone, I'm thinking about getting the AT&T S7 Edge, selling it, then getting a T-Mobile version with the money I sell it for maybe make a little or lose a little, but it shouldn't be a huge difference.
It is not only ATT Samsung phones that have seen a decrease in development - pretty much all phones have seen a decrease in development. Reason? Android is much better than it used to be! I had the S6 Edge+ (928G) unlocked and liked it, but eventually sold it. After a month or two I missed it and go a good deal on the ATT version. Man, the battery and signal strength are MUCH better than the 928G I had. There was bloat, but 99% of it can be disabled or uninstalled. I have gotten quite used to Samsung Pay and Android Pay and you can not use those with root.
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It is not only ATT Samsung phones that have seen a decrease in development - pretty much all phones have seen a decrease in development. Reason? Android is much better than it used to be! I had the S6 Edge+ (928G) unlocked and liked it, but eventually sold it. After a month or two I missed it and go a good deal on the ATT version. Man, the battery and signal strength are MUCH better than the 928G I had. There was bloat, but 99% of it can be disabled or uninstalled. I have gotten quite used to Samsung Pay and Android Pay and you can not use those with root.
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I simply cannot use a phone without AdAway, so I must root it. I hate ads/spam more than people hated Hitler.
I haven't felt a desire to unlock and root my phone. I have a Moto X Pure. I did have a Note 4 ATT variant and if it just came with Samsung bloat, I would have been fine but it's that ****ty at&t bloat that made me frustrated.
We went from a Note 3 to a Note Edge... Note 3 wasn't too bad and I did have it rooted with towelroot I think.
Note Edge didn't gain enough popularirty and nobody really cared to do anything with it anyways. We skipped the Note 5 and now going with a S7 Edge. I realized I didn't need to root or load a custom ROM on my Edge and I've been fine... Might stay that way with the S7 Edge we'll see...
that being said, I have a Gear S and that is locked down with ATT too.
Thought about going to T-Mobile, but our service is real good with AT&T so we didn't wanna change... I wouldn't mind trying T-Mobile though.
razorseal said:
We went from a Note 3 to a Note Edge... Note 3 wasn't too bad and I did have it rooted with towelroot I think.
Note Edge didn't gain enough popularirty and nobody really cared to do anything with it anyways. We skipped the Note 5 and now going with a S7 Edge. I realized I didn't need to root or load a custom ROM on my Edge and I've been fine... Might stay that way with the S7 Edge we'll see...
that being said, I have a Gear S and that is locked down with ATT too.
Thought about going to T-Mobile, but our service is real good with AT&T so we didn't wanna change... I wouldn't mind trying T-Mobile though.
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I was thinking about switching to tmobile but I was wondering if there is any way to test for tmobile signal in my building?
Ublock Origin works wonders
schn1tt3r said:
I simply cannot use a phone without AdAway, so I must root it. I hate ads/spam more than people hated Hitler.
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Ublock Origin > Firefox Mobile
Just adding (maybe not for you) but there are options out there for people that want Android/Samsung Pay and won't have root.
My honest openion, avoid AT&T, get a unlocked varient, You will thank me later.
I wish unlocked variations of phones worked on Verizon because that's what i would do. Verizon has the same issue with development going down the hill and also all the bloat ware, late updates...
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How is development for Verizon galaxy devices?
Does the T-Mobile variant have the same bands as at&t? Can I get the free Samsung gear vr? Can't seem to find the answers to these anywhere.
I also agree that development across all devices has went down allot.
The way I look at it, from Samsung stand point, if u want features like Gear VR and Samsung Pay, it's best not to root anyway since most of the root breaks those features.
Without those features you might as well get a non feature packed Android such as a Nexus.
Now days before making a device purchase, it's pretty obvious which device has the better dev community. If u go dev route and get a Nexus you loose luxury features such as Samsung Pay Gear VR etc....
Android is so powerful now days, the need for root and custom Roms just ain't needed anymore.
The G1 and HTC Evo and Samsung Vibrant (old school devices) days are a different story.
Just a warning for anybody who wants to use a non AT&T phone on their network. They will not allow it to use VoLTE at all.
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I was thinking about switching to tmobile but I was wondering if there is any way to test for tmobile signal in my building?
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You'll be sorry if you switch.... I left T-Mobile two years ago because of signal problems in the financial capital of the world. NYC... and they are still having the same problems two years later since AT&T kicked them off their cell towers.....
http://callingouttmobile.com/
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lordloki77 said:
Does the T-Mobile variant have the same bands as at&t? Can I get the free Samsung gear vr? Can't seem to find the answers to these anywhere.
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I was with T-Mobile for 15 years up until two years ago when I switched to AT&T.... I had mad signal problems in my house.... I've had no problem since I moved. I order only T-Mobile phones because they are easier to root, and I unlock them.... and use them on AT&T....
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lordloki77 said:
Does the T-Mobile variant have the same bands as at&t? Can I get the free Samsung gear vr? Can't seem to find the answers to these anywhere.
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I was with T-Mobile for 15 years up until two years ago when I switched to AT&T.... I had mad signal problems in my house.... I've had no problem since I moved. I order only T-Mobile phones because they are easier to root, and I unlock them.... and use them on AT&T....
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Hello all. I've been running a Note 2 on Sprint for the last 14 months and I've enjoyed the experience. I am probably switching to VZW here in a month or so and will probably get a Note 3.
I've been reading on this forum here and there and am curious what types of things will be different with having a locked bootloader. I read the entire BL unlocked thread, which apparently was a scam, unfortunate.
It is my intention to only run TW Roms, AOSP has it's place but I prefer tweaked TW. What won't I be able to do with the locked BL that I could with it gone?
Thanks for your time.
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Hello all. I've been running a Note 2 on Sprint for the last 14 months and I've enjoyed the experience. I am probably switching to VZW here in a month or so and will probably get a Note 3.
I've been reading on this forum here and there and am curious what types of things will be different with having a locked bootloader. I read the entire BL unlocked thread, which apparently was a scam, unfortunate.
It is my intention to only run TW Roms, AOSP has it's place but I prefer tweaked TW. What won't I be able to do with the locked BL that I could with it gone?
Thanks for your time.
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Install safestrap and start flashing roms, you just cant do kernels. Im sure there some others, but thats a biggie.
xBryan said:
Install safestrap and start flashing roms, you just cant do kernels. Im sure there some others, but thats a biggie.
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Very good, what about things like ViperAudio (http://vipersaudio.com/blog/?page_id=25)? This would help not having kernels with audio enhancements
Thanks!
MeetFace said:
Very good, what about things like ViperAudio (http://vipersaudio.com/blog/?page_id=25)? This would help not having kernels with audio enhancements
Thanks!
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Viper works fine
If you have the money get the dev version because the bootloader is locked on the retail version
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mexiking713 said:
If you have the money get the dev version because the bootloader is locked on the retail version
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I get that, but to you, why is this so important? Just looking for opinions.
Also, if I'm right, there are no discounts on VZW for having your own phone. That makes the phone a LOT more expensive.
Thanks!
Just wait for the galaxy S5 that should be coming out in mid March. They are going to announce it the 24th of this month.
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BA0714 said:
Just wait for the galaxy S5 that should be coming out in mid March. They are going to announce it the 24th of this month.
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I'm waiting for the announcement, but I have to switch by March 11, Sprint is tired of my crappy reception and roaming :/ I doubt I can get the phone before then, a few weeks after the announcement.
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If you keep waiting on the next best phone then you're gonna keep waiting. Get the Note 3. I myself came from the Sprint Note 2 and the note 3 is definitely a decent upgrade. My next phone will be a Note 4 but there is still a way to go for that.
MeetFace said:
I get that, but to you, why is this so important? Just looking for opinions.
Also, if I'm right, there are no discounts on VZW for having your own phone. That makes the phone a LOT more expensive.
Thanks!
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Verizon has something called "Verizon Edge" It allows you to upgrade your phone whenever you want. So I think you get a discount for having your own phone. I'd look into that.
By the way, Verizon has the best 4G coverage BY FAR. You'll be happy with the speed and coverage. It will just suck to have limited data. Luckily I'm still grandfathered into my unlimited data plan running the Galaxy Note 3.
kvnhmmd said:
Verizon has something called "Verizon Edge" It allows you to upgrade your phone whenever you want. So I think you get a discount for having your own phone. I'd look into that.
By the way, Verizon has the best 4G coverage BY FAR. You'll be happy with the speed and coverage. It will just suck to have limited data. Luckily I'm still grandfathered into my unlimited data plan running the Galaxy Note 3.
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Yeah, where I live VZW is king.
For comparison, Sprint just unveiled their new shiny 4G LTE network here. I'm currently roaming 3G on VZW and my data speeds beat Sprint's new LTE garbage. Not to mention signal penetration, at work I can hardly even talk on the phone unless I'm roaming on VZW.
So, solely for reception purposes I'm going VZW, it's pretty much a necessity.
I will ask about the Edge when I sign up, thanks for the heads up!
Hi there,
Soon to be first time android user(maybe?) wanting to purchase a Galaxy s6 edge plus.
But I have a couple of questions I was hoping people with experience can help me out.
1.- Since I live in the US but will be using the phone often overseas, I would like a fully unlocked phone that will work with any mobile carrier. But it is such trouble buying unlocked phones in the US I am really confused as to how should I proceed doing so? I could buy an Att phone at full retail and get it unlocked by them right? Will I be able to delete the ATT bloatware? Is there a better way to just buy an unlocked phone? I want the 64 gb gold version which seems to be very very hard to find ( ATT does have it though). Note: I am aware Verizon phones are unlocked but they do not carry the 64 gb gold variant and aren't their bands totally bad for international use?
2.- Coming from an iphone user, I've always jailbroken every iphone i've owned, it truly unlocks the full potential of a phone such as installing small modifications that make a great diff. My question is: will I be able to do the same with my galaxy s6 edge plus if I get my hands on an unlocked one? Is this called rooting? I've been reading threads from here and what I got is that rooting devices is very hard specifically for the galaxy brand? Is there a way around that?
That's all for now, just want to thank you going to the trouble of reading my post and would really appreciate your help if you happen to know any of the questions I have.
Thank you
CDMA - Verizon (not), Sprint?, U.S. Cellular?
GSM - AT&T?, T-Mobile?
As with a lot of other people on this site, I'm wondering which carrier will be best to pre-order from? I use Verizon but HATE the fact that most of the times it's one of the last carriers to be able to root the phone. I would also hate for this to turn into another Verizon Samsung Note 4 issue. Too bad the rumors where Samsung was going to start making phones that were both CDMA & GSM/UTMS were not true (as far as I am aware of).
This way since I'm now paying outright for my phones (roughly $800 bucks for 7 Edge), I could use it if I moved between carriers. After reading some other posts, now I'm wondering If I'm paying full price (paid in full), Will it be unlocked? I can't be the only one that feels RIPPED OFF when I pay $800 for a device and can't have root = have my own admin access. Can you imagine buying a laptop and not being able to install/change your own OS? not having admin rights/root?
I feel it's a MAJOR excuse for a carrier to even say - if we give you root & you change the ROM, then it makes it more difficult to help you. Guess what?!? I have not ever asked for help and nor would I... Besides, why couldn't they ask for the ROM version your using... if it matches theirs, they assist... if it doesn't, they tell you before they can assist you, you must put their ROM back on? Yes - there will always be that one person... but hey - if they were able to gain root and swap the ROM, they should be able to swap it back or pay to have it swapped back. OR at least pay for insurance and "accidentally drop it" and have it replaced.
It really bites that I (along with so many other people) want to pre-order the phone for several reasons (the free VR and games along with getting the phone first) but don't want to be SCREWED by one specific carrier and not be able to unlock the phone, root and replace the ROM.
So after all that - which carrier (historically) is the best to purchase from?
CDMA - Verizon (not), Sprint?, U.S. Cellular?
GSM - AT&T?, T-Mobile?
Additional INFO - I'm also about to call Verizon to confirm - But I read 2-3 months ago that Verizon will now allow another carrier's phone on their network (if it is CDMA). If that's true, then why not purchase the phone thru Sprint or US Cellular if historically those phones have been rooted easier than Verizon? I've been on Verizon for so long, that I'm really not sure...
Comments? suggestions?
What I'm going to do is pre-order from eBay.
The phones have a hell of a mark-up (+$200/$300), but there are unlocked Qualcomms that are usually rooted much more quickly with better support for AOSP.
I hate paying that much, but I'm going to have this phone for years, and the hassle from carrier-branded phones just isn't worth it.
Edit: You should still be able to add insurance and such through your carrier too, depending on their policies.
Didn't have an issue insuring previous phones with AT&T even though they were bought off-plan through other retailers.
It is slightly cheaper when buying it from Best Buy, $779 vs $792. I saw the T-mobile version supports band 13 LTE, but I didn't see anything about CDMA support.
I also did follow up with Verizon about placing a phone on their network that was not purchased from Verizon. They said it is currently limited to 2 phones - I don't have the names because I didn't care much......they couldn't tell me the S7 would be added to the list. So does that mean people on Verizon are STUCK purchasing from Verizon?
For my s6 edge I much preferred the unlocked UK version over the US AT&T version. (Which is why I asked in another thread when we can expect to see unlocked international versions).
AT&T not only added crazy bloat but removed really cool features from the phone. Just took em right out. They also removed Samsung deals/bundles from the phone (there was a MS suite and a free TB of storage or something removed). And in exchange for screwing with the phone they had crazy delays on updates (because they had to re-remove and re-screw the phone).
Coming from iPhone I just can't deal with carrier customizations. Unlocked for life. (crazy that Apple is unlocked now and Android isn't -- bizarro world).
JustWannaRom said:
I also did follow up with Verizon about placing a phone on their network that was not purchased from Verizon. They said it is currently limited to 2 phones - I don't have the names because I didn't care much......they couldn't tell me the S7 would be added to the list. So does that mean people on Verizon are STUCK purchasing from Verizon?
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Nexus devices are the exception (6, 5X and 6P). The problem with VZW and Sprint is that they use proprietary CDMA technology for voice communication. You can bring just about any device to their networks and have data but you won't be able to make voice calls in most cases.
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JustWannaRom said:
CDMA - Verizon (not), Sprint?, U.S. Cellular?
GSM - AT&T?, T-Mobile?
As with a lot of other people on this site, I'm wondering which carrier will be best to pre-order from? I use Verizon but HATE the fact that most of the times it's one of the last carriers to be able to root the phone. I would also hate for this to turn into another Verizon Samsung Note 4 issue. Too bad the rumors where Samsung was going to start making phones that were both CDMA & GSM/UTMS were not true (as far as I am aware of).
This way since I'm now paying outright for my phones (roughly $800 bucks for 7 Edge), I could use it if I moved between carriers. After reading some other posts, now I'm wondering If I'm paying full price (paid in full), Will it be unlocked? I can't be the only one that feels RIPPED OFF when I pay $800 for a device and can't have root = have my own admin access. Can you imagine buying a laptop and not being able to install/change your own OS? not having admin rights/root?
I feel it's a MAJOR excuse for a carrier to even say - if we give you root & you change the ROM, then it makes it more difficult to help you. Guess what?!? I have not ever asked for help and nor would I... Besides, why couldn't they ask for the ROM version your using... if it matches theirs, they assist... if it doesn't, they tell you before they can assist you, you must put their ROM back on? Yes - there will always be that one person... but hey - if they were able to gain root and swap the ROM, they should be able to swap it back or pay to have it swapped back. OR at least pay for insurance and "accidentally drop it" and have it replaced.
It really bites that I (along with so many other people) want to pre-order the phone for several reasons (the free VR and games along with getting the phone first) but don't want to be SCREWED by one specific carrier and not be able to unlock the phone, root and replace the ROM.
So after all that - which carrier (historically) is the best to purchase from?
CDMA - Verizon (not), Sprint?, U.S. Cellular?
GSM - AT&T?, T-Mobile?
Additional INFO - I'm also about to call Verizon to confirm - But I read 2-3 months ago that Verizon will now allow another carrier's phone on their network (if it is CDMA). If that's true, then why not purchase the phone thru Sprint or US Cellular if historically those phones have been rooted easier than Verizon? I've been on Verizon for so long, that I'm really not sure...
Comments? suggestions?
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Tmobile period, not going to lock the boot loader you'll be able to root (provided the community finds a way, but it's a snap dragon and unlocked bootloader so they will most likely before it even releases. ) second if you don't want tmo service you can still root it and use am at&t sim so there's that.
Hey guys,
I am currently an iPhone user since day one. I guess I am getting tired of waiting for a jailbreak and waiting on developers to update their tweaks so I want to move to an S7.
I been looking on Craigslist for a S7 and I see a bunch of AT&T phones but I am on Verizon. I know both carriers are different from one another using different bands but can I use an ATT phone on a Verizon network if it's unlocked? I was told by Verizon that I can but someone else said I can't.
I am just curious to see if the S7 is all band compatible?
I don't want to spend $700 and not be able to use it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
JoeFromSFO said:
Hey guys,
I am currently an iPhone user since day one. I guess I am getting tired of waiting for a jailbreak and waiting on developers to update their tweaks so I want to move to an S7.
I been looking on Craigslist for a S7 and I see a bunch of AT&T phones but I am on Verizon. I know both carriers are different from one another using different bands but can I use an ATT phone on a Verizon network if it's unlocked? I was told by Verizon that I can but someone else said I can't.
I am just curious to see if the S7 is all band compatible?
I don't want to spend $700 and not be able to use it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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You need to buy an international variant if you want root. SM-G935F
dynospectrum said:
You need to buy an international variant if you want root. SM-G935F
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Are you saying if I buy a US S7 I can't root the phone?
re: S7 Edge
JoeFromSFO said:
Are you saying if I buy a US S7 I can't root the phone?
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Yes, there are no US S7 or S7 Edge phones which can be rooted.
The very last late model Samsung Galaxy phones which can still be
rooted are the S6, S6 Edge, S6 Edge+ & Note 5 US branded phones.
So if you want a S7 Edge you will have to purchase an international
model G935F.
Good luck,
Have a great day!
Misterjunky said:
Yes, there are no US S7 or S7 Edge phones which can be rooted.
The very last late model Samsung Galaxy phones which can still be
rooted are the S6, S6 Edge, S6 Edge+ & Note 5 US branded phones.
So if you want a S7 Edge you will have to purchase an international
model G935F.
Good luck,
Have a great day!
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So rooting is only for installing roms correct? Thanks for this info, I almost bought one from CL.
Can you still install tweaks without rooting?
Also just to confirm the SM-G935F model will work on Verizon correct?
JoeFromSFO said:
Also just to confirm the SM-G935F model will work on Verizon correct?
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Yes it will, all you will need to do is pop in an activated Verizon micro sim card.
Good luck,
Have a great day!
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JoeFromSFO said:
So rooting is only for installing roms correct? Thanks for this info, I almost bought one from CL.
Can you still install tweaks without rooting?
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You cannot install or flash any roms, tweaks or mods unless the phone is rooted. (With very few exceptions)
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Does the Canadian version G935W8 can be rooted?
re: canadian s7 Edge
XGARX said:
Does the Canadian version G935W8 can be rooted?
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Yes it can.
If you want to know how, go to this xda link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/recovery-official-twrp-hero2lte-3-0-0-0-t3334084
It will guide you thru the rooting process.
The W8 Canadian S7 Edge is rooted the
same way as all the international versions.
You don't even need to root the phone if you are
going to flash a custom rom...
All custom roms are pre-rooted so you will only
need to odin flash TWRP by following the guide
in the link above.
Good luck,
Have a great day!
JoeFromSFO said:
Also just to confirm the SM-G935F model will work on Verizon correct?
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Yes it will, all you will need to do is pop in an activated Verizon micro sim card.
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Are you sure the international version supports CDMA?
I read it only supports 4G not 3G or 2G.
That kind of sux because to me Verizon does not have good coverage.
If I buy a phone from Verizon I guess can't root it, what can I do? Can I install custom tweaks and is there a free App Store like AppCake?
I would be careful using phones built on another network even if unlocked. The phone and sms will work but picture / video and data connections will be spotty.
Verizon and Sprint work off of CDMA and all other carries r on GSM.
LTE frequencies r built different for each network. If I was u n spending that money, I would buy the phone that was made for the carrier u r looking to do business with.
U can search through the Google play store. All tweaks that come from apps in there u can install without root.
If u r used to Cydia which u change system parameters of the native phone or status bar icons, that is all done with root.
Android gives u a million more customization options unrooted. Not like the iPhone. I have also used an iPhone for years and only because of the jailbreak. Without a JB I would of never used the iPhone. I switched to android as well because new JBs don't come out as quick especially since every other month Apple releases a new IOS.
I am amazed with all the options and great camera that s7 has over the iPhone. The iPhone 7 still sounds to be years behind.
I am actually selling an AT&T unused s7 device.
Good luck!!!
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
iTouch24 said:
I would be careful using phones built on another network even if unlocked. The phone and sms will work but picture / video and data connections will be spotty.
Verizon and Sprint work off of CDMA and all other carries r on GSM.
LTE frequencies r built different for each network. If I was u n spending that money, I would buy the phone that was made for the carrier u r looking to do business with.
U can search through the Google play store. All tweaks that come from apps in there u can install without root.
If u r used to Cydia which u change system parameters of the native phone or status bar icons, that is all done with root.
Android gives u a million more customization options unrooted. Not like the iPhone. I have also used an iPhone for years and only because of the jailbreak. Without a JB I would of never used the iPhone. I switched to android as well because new JBs don't come out as quick especially since every other month Apple releases a new IOS.
I am amazed with all the options and great camera that s7 has over the iPhone. The iPhone 7 still sounds to be years behind.
I am actually selling an AT&T unused s7 device.
Good luck!!!
AnThOnY- S7 Edge
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Actually I am using Echoe Rom do you really recommend me to install a Stock rom? I don't really like how looks my phone. There are some stuff missing like TouchWiz features. I am using a G935W8
anyone going to get this and use it on at&t?
i was looking into that. it misses one LTE frequency but I cant get a clear answer as to whether it matters or not
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i was looking into that. it misses one LTE frequency but I cant get a clear answer as to whether it matters or not
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which one is it missing?
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According to the N930FD spec sheet, this phone has all the necessary hardware to operate on AT&T. It supports 1900MHz (B2), 850MHz (B5), LTE700 (B17), and LTE1700/2100 (B4). There is no reason why it wouldn't work.
I've got it pre-ordered from AT&T. Wish it was the 19th already lol
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missing 2 bands. b29 & b30
https://www.frequencycheck.com/comp...-td-lte/samsung-sm-n930a-galaxy-note-7-td-lte
That's why I ended up pre-ordering the ATT version
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The 2 missing bands don't seem to be a big deal
Band 29 - Pertaining to cellular networks, the radio downlink is the transmission path from a cell site to the cell phone. (A frequency for Tracking you)
Band 30 - The Wireless Communications Service (WCS) 2.3ghz Frequency that is mostly used for the "ZWave type technology" (ATT Alarms - like locking doors etc.)
I'm definitely going with Galaxy Note 7 N930FD DUAL SIM Factory Unlocked! I'm sure it'll feel nice to be free and feel free from a carrier like ATT. The last few devices I've purchased I felt like a mouse caught in a trap. The S6 Edge was & will be the last carrier locked device I will ever buy. Not all may feel my pain but that's way to much money to put out and be locked out of it.
One advantage of ATT is for WHEN the devices go wrong. I have had to switch practically evert note I ever had from Note 1 through 5. They are very good at that.
That's one worry about getting the device from a 3rd party seller, for me anyway.
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so in retrospect how important are the 2 missing bands? The one that tracks you does it cause issues with the GPS??
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...I'm definitely going with Galaxy Note 7 N930FD DUAL SIM Factory Unlocked! I'm sure it'll feel nice to be free and feel free from a carrier like ATT......Not all may feel my pain but that's way to much money to put out and be locked out of it.
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ditto; having FULL control of what i paid for is more important to me. i realize/understand/accept the risk of ownership. i have the DUOS S7Edge (935FD) and it's working well for me. that being said, i'm not able to use ATT's VoLTE and ATT's Video call features. i suspect something in the ROM is missing from my device. nonetheless, not showstoppers for me. only Note 7 showstopper for me now is if the device cannot be rooted.
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Band 29 - Pertaining to cellular networks, the radio downlink is the transmission path from a cell site to the cell phone. (A frequency for Tracking you)
Band 30 - The Wireless Communications Service (WCS) 2.3ghz Frequency that is mostly used for the "ZWave type technology" (ATT Alarms - like locking doors etc.)
I'm definitely going with Galaxy Note 7 N930FD DUAL SIM Factory Unlocked! I'm sure it'll feel nice to be free and feel free from a carrier like ATT. The last few devices I've purchased I felt like a mouse caught in a trap. The S6 Edge was & will be the last carrier locked device I will ever buy. Not all may feel my pain but that's way to much money to put out and be locked out of it.
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I didn't even know what those 2 were since googling at&t bands only shows info on the ones used for calls and LTE.
Band 30 is newer spectrum they purchased last year, it's mainly for high congestion areas and hasn't been deployed in many places yet. Not sure how significant it will be in the near future, I do know that the iPhone SE was released without it, so it can't be that important, yet. Band 29 I have no idea, haven't researched it yet. I don't think I'd be afraid of this model in terms of reception, but you lose a lot of stuff like wifi calling, VOLTE, Samsung pay, etc.
Anyone know if the bootloader is unlocked? I'd be willing to lose the AT&T stuff if I could root it.
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ditto; having FULL control of what i paid for is more important to me. i realize/understand/accept the risk of ownership. i have the DUOS S7Edge (935FD) and it's working well for me. that being said, i'm not able to use ATT's VoLTE and ATT's Video call features. i suspect something in the ROM is missing from my device. nonetheless, not showstoppers for me. only Note 7 showstopper for me now is if the device cannot be rooted.
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He man, how've you been? :good:
I ordered a Note 7 Duos N930FD . It scheduled to be delivered tomorrow so we'll see how it goes.....
Very interested to hear how you get on on AT&T. Where did you buy it to get it delivered tomorrow?
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I just pre-ordered mine from Best Buy on AT&T. I am planning to to payout the full cost immediately after getting the device. And currently I don't have any contract with AT&T. Will I be able to unlock my Note 7 easily? Will it affect my warranty in any manner?
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Very interested to hear how you get on on AT&T. Where did you buy it to get it delivered tomorrow?
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Just got it today. and so far so good. Just popped in the SIM and all good LTE, voice, etc. Tomorrow I will put through the paces and report back.
I got it from https://www.from.ae/en/
They were great in communication and fast shipping.
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Just got it today. and so far so good. Just popped in the SIM and all good LTE, voice, etc. Tomorrow I will put through the paces and report back.
I got it from https://www.from.ae/en/
They were great in communication and fast shipping.
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Can you see if wifi calling works? I'm pretty sure it's no, but I wanted to hear it first hand. If it doesn't maybe it's worth a call to att tech support and maybe they can add it. Also does Samsung pay work?
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Can you see if wifi calling works? I'm pretty sure it's no, but I wanted to hear it first hand. If it doesn't maybe it's worth a call to att tech support and maybe they can add it. Also does Samsung pay work?
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No Wi-Fi calling. Samsung pay is not included in the default apps. I'll play more tomorrow to see.
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i briefly owned a note 5 international device without samsung pay. to get it to work you need a ROM from a country where Samsung pay is active. Like US, UK, Australia dn i think Singapore now. At the time the only roms were from countries that hadnt activated samsung pay and therefore the app didnt work. Not the end of the world as there is android pay.
I am really interested to see how you get on with LTE without that band. Can you do a compare to an AT&T device?
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i briefly owned a note 5 international device without samsung pay. to get it to work you need a ROM from a country where Samsung pay is active. Like US, UK, Australia dn i think Singapore now. At the time the only roms were from countries that hadnt activated samsung pay and therefore the app didnt work. Not the end of the world as there is android pay.
I am really interested to see how you get on with LTE without that band. Can you do a compare to an AT&T device?
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So far so good today. I drive a lot for work and signal / lte has been working fine. Basically haven't noticed anything wrong with data/signal so that's a good thing. I haven't cancelled my pre order with ATT so I might compare it to that one when it comes in.
Tonight I can run speed test side by side with my wife's iPhone tonight at home. Not really sure if that would help, but I can do it.