Coming from Sprint Note 2, what will be different? - Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello all. I've been running a Note 2 on Sprint for the last 14 months and I've enjoyed the experience. I am probably switching to VZW here in a month or so and will probably get a Note 3.
I've been reading on this forum here and there and am curious what types of things will be different with having a locked bootloader. I read the entire BL unlocked thread, which apparently was a scam, unfortunate.
It is my intention to only run TW Roms, AOSP has it's place but I prefer tweaked TW. What won't I be able to do with the locked BL that I could with it gone?
Thanks for your time.

MeetFace said:
Hello all. I've been running a Note 2 on Sprint for the last 14 months and I've enjoyed the experience. I am probably switching to VZW here in a month or so and will probably get a Note 3.
I've been reading on this forum here and there and am curious what types of things will be different with having a locked bootloader. I read the entire BL unlocked thread, which apparently was a scam, unfortunate.
It is my intention to only run TW Roms, AOSP has it's place but I prefer tweaked TW. What won't I be able to do with the locked BL that I could with it gone?
Thanks for your time.
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Install safestrap and start flashing roms, you just cant do kernels. Im sure there some others, but thats a biggie.

xBryan said:
Install safestrap and start flashing roms, you just cant do kernels. Im sure there some others, but thats a biggie.
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Very good, what about things like ViperAudio (http://vipersaudio.com/blog/?page_id=25)? This would help not having kernels with audio enhancements
Thanks!

MeetFace said:
Very good, what about things like ViperAudio (http://vipersaudio.com/blog/?page_id=25)? This would help not having kernels with audio enhancements
Thanks!
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Viper works fine

If you have the money get the dev version because the bootloader is locked on the retail version
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mexiking713 said:
If you have the money get the dev version because the bootloader is locked on the retail version
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I get that, but to you, why is this so important? Just looking for opinions.
Also, if I'm right, there are no discounts on VZW for having your own phone. That makes the phone a LOT more expensive.
Thanks!

Just wait for the galaxy S5 that should be coming out in mid March. They are going to announce it the 24th of this month.
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BA0714 said:
Just wait for the galaxy S5 that should be coming out in mid March. They are going to announce it the 24th of this month.
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I'm waiting for the announcement, but I have to switch by March 11, Sprint is tired of my crappy reception and roaming :/ I doubt I can get the phone before then, a few weeks after the announcement.
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If you keep waiting on the next best phone then you're gonna keep waiting. Get the Note 3. I myself came from the Sprint Note 2 and the note 3 is definitely a decent upgrade. My next phone will be a Note 4 but there is still a way to go for that.

MeetFace said:
I get that, but to you, why is this so important? Just looking for opinions.
Also, if I'm right, there are no discounts on VZW for having your own phone. That makes the phone a LOT more expensive.
Thanks!
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Verizon has something called "Verizon Edge" It allows you to upgrade your phone whenever you want. So I think you get a discount for having your own phone. I'd look into that.
By the way, Verizon has the best 4G coverage BY FAR. You'll be happy with the speed and coverage. It will just suck to have limited data. Luckily I'm still grandfathered into my unlimited data plan running the Galaxy Note 3.

kvnhmmd said:
Verizon has something called "Verizon Edge" It allows you to upgrade your phone whenever you want. So I think you get a discount for having your own phone. I'd look into that.
By the way, Verizon has the best 4G coverage BY FAR. You'll be happy with the speed and coverage. It will just suck to have limited data. Luckily I'm still grandfathered into my unlimited data plan running the Galaxy Note 3.
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Yeah, where I live VZW is king.
For comparison, Sprint just unveiled their new shiny 4G LTE network here. I'm currently roaming 3G on VZW and my data speeds beat Sprint's new LTE garbage. Not to mention signal penetration, at work I can hardly even talk on the phone unless I'm roaming on VZW.
So, solely for reception purposes I'm going VZW, it's pretty much a necessity.
I will ask about the Edge when I sign up, thanks for the heads up!

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Switch from ATT Galaxy 2 to International?

Hi -
I currently have the AT&T version, but was thinking about making the jump to the International version. There is definately more activity from a development standpoint for the International version.
Can I use the International one on AT&T? Is there any know issues I should be aware of prior to doing this? For example, can I still get H+?
Thanks.
iFalcon said:
Hi -
Can I use the International one on AT&T? Is there any know issues I should be aware of prior to doing this? For example, can I still get H+?
Thanks.
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Are you talking about switching to a Galaxy S II 9100?
Tons of people are using them in the states before the AT&T versions were announced/released. I believe they are nearly identical in terms of network/band support (shy of the LTE model Skyrocket)
Yes. I would switch the at&t Samsung galaxy s II to the international version i9100.
I thought people had issues getting h+ to work though.
I'm guessing I should just be able to move the similar card over.
Thanks
Thanka
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I have the International version and have been using it on AT&T for like 4 months now. If you are going to get a new phone, get the Galaxy Nexus
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You shouldn't have any problems; I've been using the international version on AT&T for 6 months. The only area where you might have some issues is with ROMs -- a ROM package made for the AT&T version probably won't work on the international version.
It works perfectly well, just a warning if you purchase the white model. Att recognizes the imei as a blackberry for some reason. I had to call them four times and push them until they finally let me keep the media net plan.
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I've been using the international version on AT&T since July. Only problem is that it drops signal after a phone call and randomly at other times. It come right back up tho. I don't know if this is due to my area or what or even my phone singularly.
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I have been using the GT-I9100 for a few months now without issue, it was a little rough at first trying to get the correct APN provisioned but after dealing with a Supervisor who had half a clue I was able to have the correct APN provisioned and things have been great ever since.
However, since you already have a Galaxy S2 at&t has already provisioned your account with correct APN, so you should be good to go form that perspective.
I really like the GT-I9100 and am really happy with it, I came back from London on the 20th and played with a Galaxy Nexus while I was over there. Very impressive phone but not a major step up from the SGS2 IMHO, added to that I believe that ICS on the SGS2 is going to be pretty slick as the Exynos/Mali combo is just as good or maybe even slightly better than the TI OMAP/Power VR combo on the GNex.
Dan
I'm a grandfathered $30 unlimited data subscriber. Is the only thing I would need to do is move the SIM from current AT&T Galaxy S II to the International i9100? Will I need to call customer service to have them switch anything?
Thanks.
dan1431 said:
I have been using the GT-I9100 for a few months now without issue, it was a little rough at first trying to get the correct APN provisioned but after dealing with a Supervisor who had half a clue I was able to have the correct APN provisioned and things have been great ever since.
However, since you already have a Galaxy S2 at&t has already provisioned your account with correct APN, so you should be good to go form that perspective.
I really like the GT-I9100 and am really happy with it, I came back from London on the 20th and played with a Galaxy Nexus while I was over there. Very impressive phone but not a major step up from the SGS2 IMHO, added to that I believe that ICS on the SGS2 is going to be pretty slick as the Exynos/Mali combo is just as good or maybe even slightly better than the TI OMAP/Power VR combo on the GNex.
Dan
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iFalcon said:
I'm a grandfathered $30 unlimited data subscriber. Is the only thing I would need to do is move the SIM from current AT&T Galaxy S II to the International i9100? Will I need to call customer service to have them switch anything?
Thanks.
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Nothing at all. I bought the internationAl the day it was released in the UK. I pulled the Sim from my inspire placed it in my gs2. Rooted about 15 minutes later and haven't had an issue yet. Play with apns depending on your area. I have had little success with major gains but mainly due to living in the major tristate area(too many users)
Edit: don't call and give them your imei. It changes nothing and has changed nothing with my acct
Shouldn't be hard to find the AT&T APN online. I did it with Virgin. When I installed a rom using full wipe, it erased APN. Same as getting a new phone really. A quick google search and manual APN inputs and I was back. You shouldn't need to do it though...first time I booted my phone up after I bought it, it picked the service up instantly.
iFalcon said:
I'm a grandfathered $30 unlimited data subscriber. Is the only thing I would need to do is move the SIM from current AT&T Galaxy S II to the International i9100? Will I need to call customer service to have them switch anything?
Thanks.
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That is it. I made the switch as well.
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iFalcon said:
I'm a grandfathered $30 unlimited data subscriber. Is the only thing I would need to do is move the SIM from current AT&T Galaxy S II to the International i9100? Will I need to call customer service to have them switch anything?
Thanks.
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That simple, remove the sim from your current phone (I777) and insert it into your new phone (GT-I9100) and you should be good to go.
I am also Grandfathered into the Unlimited Plan and to date have had zero issues.
One warning, if you plan on buying the White GT-I9100, that seems to come up in at&t Mobility's system as a Blackberry and the computer will try and provision your account for Blackberry use.
Dan
Great responses all! Appreciate the input.
I was only planning to buy the black one. Not having much luck on Ebay right now...
Thanks.

[Q] Next Freedom phone

Nexus One was appealing because it was stock and no bloatware. Now that Verizon has ruined the Nexus Galaxy, what phone should I get?
I would stick with my N1, but the touchscreen issues really slow down my typing and the light sensor has gone bad. I'm Tmobile and obviously willing to pay for unlocked phones and/or rooting to CM. Native-battery-percentage-4-life
Amaze 4g
Samsung SII
Maybe the Galaxy S2 LTE or whatever it's called?
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The Verizon one?
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hebetude said:
The Verizon one?
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Uhm, I'm really not that familiar with service operators over in the united states, seeing as I'm from beyond the ocean. Sweden, actually, if you didn't notice the flag
I've heard mostly good about T-mobile, so maybe you ought to buy one of their phones?
But I've heard rumors saying the LTE will only be released here in Europe.
hebetude said:
Nexus One was appealing because it was stock and no bloatware. Now that Verizon has ruined the Nexus Galaxy, what phone should I get?
I would stick with my N1, but the touchscreen issues really slow down my typing and the light sensor has gone bad. I'm Tmobile and obviously willing to pay for unlocked phones and/or rooting to CM. Native-battery-percentage-4-life
Amaze 4g
Samsung SII
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Galaxy note is very tempting, that or wait until next batch of phones with quad core, GS3 or other. I am probably going to cave and just get the GS2, it is a beautiful device even with the lower resolution.
Yeah ces is next week. I think I will be waiting as well
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But I've heard rumors saying the LTE will only be released here in Europe.
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I am beyond the ocean as well, but I believe LTE versions are typically only for CDMA based phones. So Verizon in the states uses LTE. GSM phones are the more common worldwide versions.
And to the OP, you can get a non-Verizon Galaxy Nexus, as long as you import it. As far as I am still aware, there are still no GSM versions of the Galaxy Nexus available in the states (at least through any carriers, some places may have imported them from Europe).
I too am eagerly awaiting CES. I am eligible for my upgrade with T-Mobile US in February (I am in a unique situation with them with me being overseas), and I hope they get something like the Galaxy Nexus but with a sdcard slot. I don't get why they wouldn't put that in there
To make it simple for simple like the kindle and iphone
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hebetude said:
Nexus One was appealing because it was stock and no bloatware.
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Actually, I got it because I knew it would get the dev-love. I've been on custom roms since the day I got it (mostly CM). Stock Android is just as boring to me as bloatware would've been annoying to me - either way I don't have root.
Want to get a GN but are worried about bloatware? Get it and get a custom rom - it's so obvious what to do with a Nexus.

N9005 Kitkat leaked

N9005 Int Kitkat has been leaked. If anyone wants to pull apart the rom http://mattfacts.com/N3KitKat.rar.torrent
funny
I just was reading about it here !
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/01/12...kat-test-firmware-for-galaxy-note-3-sm-n9005/
Official one is just out. XEO(Poland) region. Check sammobile or samsung-updates. I guess ATT one will be released in a month?
Radukk said:
I guess ATT one will be released in a month?
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Lol good one.
Chances are..ART won't be enabled and we'll probably not notice anything being different. Hopefully some bugs gets squashed at least
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Rippley05 said:
Chances are..ART won't be enabled and we'll probably not notice anything being different. Hopefully some bugs gets squashed at least
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We wont be able to use ART anyway since Xposed doesn't wont work with ART and most ppl who root have that installed because it adds so many possibilities. But this might help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546120
Radukk said:
Official one is just out. XEO(Poland) region. Check sammobile or samsung-updates. I guess ATT one will be released in a month?
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AT&T in a month?! nahhh
Radukk said:
Official one is just out. XEO(Poland) region. Check sammobile or samsung-updates. I guess ATT one will be released in a month?
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AT&T is almost always six months behind the initial release of an Android version. They take their sweet time adding all their bloat and locking it down more.
designgears said:
AT&T in a month?! nahhh
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I hope you mean sooner but I'm guessing you mean more like 3 months?
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We'll see KitKat in 2015. No doubt.
Delakit said:
We'll see KitKat in 2015. No doubt.
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Nah. More like KitKat on the Note 4. At&t wont have my money. I will never buy another At&t product.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
Nah. More like KitKat on the Note 4. At&t wont have my money. I will never buy another At&t product.
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It will be coming to the Note 3 regardless. It isn't an AT&T product hence Samsung Note 3 But I'll refrain from getting any more technical.
Downloading now..I'll see what I can do about making it work for our phone.
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I hear a lot of people bashing at&t...but I've been with them for 11..When they were Cingular and my service has always been excellent. I've had Verizon and sprint and didn't care for either. At&t has always been good to me
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Delakit said:
It will be coming to the Note 3 regardless. It isn't an AT&T product hence Samsung Note 3 But I'll refrain from getting any more technical.
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The At&t Note 3 just now (from October) has some things we can do (Safestrap, ROMS, Etc) but also has the Locked Bootloader like we all know.
If I bought a Developer Edition phone going forward, I wont have this problem. Thats why I'm choosing not to buy At&t products anymore. They will be locked. I've been with At&t for 18 years. My Father In Law retired (30 years) with them. We have two business accounts and two family plans. SO SIGN HERE BUDDY !!! >>
Please join this campaign/sign petition: http://chn.ge/192KeHy <- Paste this everywhere you leave comments...
Help blitz on AT&T's Social Media Pages on FaceBook
https://www.facebook.com/ATT
[UWe REALLY need to make our voice heard at Samsung, who, as a partner to AT&T, may have additional influence when they know that THEIR business will be affected as well.
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile[/U]
Go to these sites, and blitz the wall with this line: AT&T: Unlock OUR Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Bootloader! or Samsung: Please ask AT&T to Unlock OUR Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Bootloader!
LuckyColdJohnson said:
The At&t Note 3 just now (from October) has some things we can do (Safestrap, ROMS, Etc) but also has the Locked Bootloader like we all know.
If I bought a Developer Edition phone going forward, I wont have this problem. Thats why I'm choosing not to buy At&t products anymore. They will be locked. I've been with At&t for 18 years. My Father In Law retired (30 years) with them. We have two business accounts and two family plans. SO SIGN HERE BUDDY !!! >>
Please join this campaign/sign petition: http://chn.ge/192KeHy <- Paste this everywhere you leave comments...
Help blitz on AT&T's Social Media Pages on FaceBook
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https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile[/U]
Go to these sites, and blitz the wall with this line: AT&T: Unlock OUR Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Bootloader! or Samsung: Please ask AT&T to Unlock OUR Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Bootloader!
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Crazy, I didn't know there was a Dev Edition for this phone yet. I'm out of the loop now that my flashaholic days have been minimal. I would've just bought the dev edition -_-
Will the leaked ver. work on my phone?
Will that leaked android 4.4 work on my at&t note 3?
No our bootloader is locked
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so i heard about our phones getting the 4.4.2 update but only out of the u.s well as i was reading this article Link for Article i begin to read in the comments someone flashing this 4.4.2 build on a tmobile variant and got it to sucessfuly work. I wonder if the same could be done for our at&t variant considering there almost identically the same. and fyi to everyone who thinks att updating is slow lol you wont know till youve been with verizon they release updates 4 month after anyone else does (us cell companies)
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I wonder if the same could be done for our at&t variant considering there almost identically the same. and fyi to everyone who thinks att updating is slow lol you wont know till youve been with verizon they release updates 4 month after anyone else does (us cell companies)
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It won't work. The bootloader is locked on the ATT version. That means no kernels. The kernel must be digitally signed by AT&T (or Samsung for AT&T) to work. That is why all roms for the AT&T version use the stock AT&T 4.3 kernel. If you want a freely customizable device sell the ATT version and get the Tmobile version. It works on AT&T.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464498

Rooting the note 4

So the s6 sucks, gonna get a note 4 note instead. I've been reading all these threads but I'm not sure what variant I'll be getting. I'm on att and want to know if I'll be able to root it and if I'll be able to use custom roms, preferably without using safe strap. Any help/advise would be appreciated.
How about if you go and browse/search Note 4 forums? All this has alrdy been said
I've been, but there's too many forums for different models. The one I think is for the phone I'm gonna get has nothing but a kernel.
AT&T and Verizon variants are not rootable unless you have the Google play developer editions of the phone.
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Get the T-Mobile version to run on at&t. There is several threads about why this is your best option.
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Get the T-Mobile version to run on at&t. There is several threads about why this is your best option.
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That's probably not gonna happen since I'm getting it thru my upgrade on att and I'm not switching because I'm grandfather'd in for unlimited data. I can't afford to pay for one out right.
Then there is obviously no question about what Variant you will be getting, it will be the Att one which is as of now unrootable. You will need either a TMo one look in craigslist or an international version.
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ZephCr said:
That's probably not gonna happen since I'm getting it thru my upgrade on att and I'm not switching because I'm grandfather'd in for unlimited data. I can't afford to pay for one out right.
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If that's your only option and want to root I would buy it, sell it immediately brand new in box, and then turn around and buy a T-Mobile version off of CL or eBay as the previous person stated. The at&t version can't be rooted. It has a locked bootloader and it doesn't look like it'll ever be any better.

Downward trend on development with AT&T Galaxy S phones? Share your thoughts

I'm trying to decide if I'm going to own the AT&T galaxy s7 edge. This is just my observation, but it seems that there are fewer root options and less custom user development with each new model of the Samsung Galaxy S phones from AT&T. This seems to be more with with AT&T versions because they seem to be trying to do everything in their power to limit users from rooting their phones. This may go further than AT&T, but that's where my experience is limited to. I'd go with another carrier or buy an unlocked one, but I just can't justify the cost when my job pays for the phone and the bill. Worst case scenario is that I'll just stop rooting my phone rather than buy one somewhere else, but I love the flexibility and options it gives me. There are many custom functions I enjoy on my phone made possible by rooting it.
So my question to the community is this, and please share your thoughts even if you disagree:
Do you too also see a decline in the root options and custom development effort in AT&T Galaxy S phones over the years? Do you think this is going to change? And are there other phones you feel are better to own with comparable functionality to the Galaxy S series that receive much more custom user development support? Thank you all!
There is no question that development has fallen away on ATT phones - primarly because of the locked bootloader that ATT started back with the S4 - is has only gotten worse since then.
I am on ATT and I stopped buying ATT phones after the S4. The flexibility and options that are open to me using a TMobile phone on ATT are worth whatever additional cost to me so I just deal with it. I am fortunate, I have a good job and my wife doesn't bi..ch too much.
Custom Rom Developoment on the S6 and Note 5 for all carriers seemed to be less overall than I remember on the Note 4 and the S5 before that - maybe because Samsung pissed everyone off when they didn't include an External SD Card and they elminated the removal battery. The Exynos Processor probably played a big role too - I hope we see more on the S7 and S7 edge....
It's probably not a good idea if you want to use CM on ATT S7. And I would recommend you to get oneplus or nexus if you want to use CM or other custom ROMs.
Edited: I am also considering getting tmobile S7 for att use. Just don't know if that gonna work.
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I have had to stick with ATT since it is the only signal to penetrate the building I am in. My S4 was a T-Mobile model which was all unlocked with good amount of development. My s5 is w8 Canadian model also with pretty good development. I actually considered getting an ATT s7 but I'm sure I would soon be dissatisfied with stock only. Plus 30 months of $26 extra bill for device would be terrible. So I am going to wait and buy another international one when available for less than 6 or 7 hundred bucks.
I left ATT for one of these reasons, got so sick and tired of their Nazi BS crappy way of doing things the past couple of years. I used to LOL at Verizon for being the worst, well ATT has far surpassed them for the worst carrier in the U.S. ( Not talking network )
Back in the day, the ATT Note 2 was AWESOME, and tons of XDA development available for that phone, and then the Note 3 things started to change, and only got worse. The S4 was a disaster, at first it was rootable and had development, then ATT passed an update, and totally locked down that phone.
Plus their billing sucks, my monthly bill was never consistent, even though I was on a good plan. Every month my bill was a little higher, or way higher, but never exactly what it should be.
Fast forward to last Summer, My wife and I moved to T-Mobile at the launch of the Note 5, pick up the T-Mobile Note 5, and both are rooted running a great ROM. And T-Mobile's monthly bill, for seven months straight, been exactly the same, no funny business.
I'm with AT&T for the past two years. Two years ago AT&T kicked T-Mobile off all their cell towers in my area, and my signal became nonexistent. I ordered an S7 Edge through T-Mobile. Once the phone is unlocked, works fine on AT&T network. I won't buy another AT&T phone. I was lucky with my S5. I used the Towel Root exploit, and was lucky to have not updated.....
Thanks everyone! I really appreciate the feedback! Since work will buy the phone, I'm thinking about getting the AT&T S7 Edge, selling it, then getting a T-Mobile version with the money I sell it for maybe make a little or lose a little, but it shouldn't be a huge difference.
It is not only ATT Samsung phones that have seen a decrease in development - pretty much all phones have seen a decrease in development. Reason? Android is much better than it used to be! I had the S6 Edge+ (928G) unlocked and liked it, but eventually sold it. After a month or two I missed it and go a good deal on the ATT version. Man, the battery and signal strength are MUCH better than the 928G I had. There was bloat, but 99% of it can be disabled or uninstalled. I have gotten quite used to Samsung Pay and Android Pay and you can not use those with root.
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It is not only ATT Samsung phones that have seen a decrease in development - pretty much all phones have seen a decrease in development. Reason? Android is much better than it used to be! I had the S6 Edge+ (928G) unlocked and liked it, but eventually sold it. After a month or two I missed it and go a good deal on the ATT version. Man, the battery and signal strength are MUCH better than the 928G I had. There was bloat, but 99% of it can be disabled or uninstalled. I have gotten quite used to Samsung Pay and Android Pay and you can not use those with root.
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I simply cannot use a phone without AdAway, so I must root it. I hate ads/spam more than people hated Hitler.
I haven't felt a desire to unlock and root my phone. I have a Moto X Pure. I did have a Note 4 ATT variant and if it just came with Samsung bloat, I would have been fine but it's that ****ty at&t bloat that made me frustrated.
We went from a Note 3 to a Note Edge... Note 3 wasn't too bad and I did have it rooted with towelroot I think.
Note Edge didn't gain enough popularirty and nobody really cared to do anything with it anyways. We skipped the Note 5 and now going with a S7 Edge. I realized I didn't need to root or load a custom ROM on my Edge and I've been fine... Might stay that way with the S7 Edge we'll see...
that being said, I have a Gear S and that is locked down with ATT too.
Thought about going to T-Mobile, but our service is real good with AT&T so we didn't wanna change... I wouldn't mind trying T-Mobile though.
razorseal said:
We went from a Note 3 to a Note Edge... Note 3 wasn't too bad and I did have it rooted with towelroot I think.
Note Edge didn't gain enough popularirty and nobody really cared to do anything with it anyways. We skipped the Note 5 and now going with a S7 Edge. I realized I didn't need to root or load a custom ROM on my Edge and I've been fine... Might stay that way with the S7 Edge we'll see...
that being said, I have a Gear S and that is locked down with ATT too.
Thought about going to T-Mobile, but our service is real good with AT&T so we didn't wanna change... I wouldn't mind trying T-Mobile though.
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I was thinking about switching to tmobile but I was wondering if there is any way to test for tmobile signal in my building?
Ublock Origin works wonders
schn1tt3r said:
I simply cannot use a phone without AdAway, so I must root it. I hate ads/spam more than people hated Hitler.
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Ublock Origin > Firefox Mobile
Just adding (maybe not for you) but there are options out there for people that want Android/Samsung Pay and won't have root.
My honest openion, avoid AT&T, get a unlocked varient, You will thank me later.
I wish unlocked variations of phones worked on Verizon because that's what i would do. Verizon has the same issue with development going down the hill and also all the bloat ware, late updates...
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How is development for Verizon galaxy devices?
Does the T-Mobile variant have the same bands as at&t? Can I get the free Samsung gear vr? Can't seem to find the answers to these anywhere.
I also agree that development across all devices has went down allot.
The way I look at it, from Samsung stand point, if u want features like Gear VR and Samsung Pay, it's best not to root anyway since most of the root breaks those features.
Without those features you might as well get a non feature packed Android such as a Nexus.
Now days before making a device purchase, it's pretty obvious which device has the better dev community. If u go dev route and get a Nexus you loose luxury features such as Samsung Pay Gear VR etc....
Android is so powerful now days, the need for root and custom Roms just ain't needed anymore.
The G1 and HTC Evo and Samsung Vibrant (old school devices) days are a different story.
Just a warning for anybody who wants to use a non AT&T phone on their network. They will not allow it to use VoLTE at all.
spankmatic22 said:
I was thinking about switching to tmobile but I was wondering if there is any way to test for tmobile signal in my building?
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You'll be sorry if you switch.... I left T-Mobile two years ago because of signal problems in the financial capital of the world. NYC... and they are still having the same problems two years later since AT&T kicked them off their cell towers.....
http://callingouttmobile.com/
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lordloki77 said:
Does the T-Mobile variant have the same bands as at&t? Can I get the free Samsung gear vr? Can't seem to find the answers to these anywhere.
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I was with T-Mobile for 15 years up until two years ago when I switched to AT&T.... I had mad signal problems in my house.... I've had no problem since I moved. I order only T-Mobile phones because they are easier to root, and I unlock them.... and use them on AT&T....
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lordloki77 said:
Does the T-Mobile variant have the same bands as at&t? Can I get the free Samsung gear vr? Can't seem to find the answers to these anywhere.
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I was with T-Mobile for 15 years up until two years ago when I switched to AT&T.... I had mad signal problems in my house.... I've had no problem since I moved. I order only T-Mobile phones because they are easier to root, and I unlock them.... and use them on AT&T....

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