updated to fire os 5 and followed quickly to updating to 5.1.1.1 today
this is a saturn 8.9 hdx i tried the http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/root-t3272362
root method for 5.1.1.1 but this command
fastboot oem append-cmdline "androidboot.unlocked_kernel=true"
came as invalid command for me so the boot loaders are still configured differently for the new hd6 and the older hdx because we don't have this cmdline parameter
Hello,
was there a possibility to prevent updating to 5.1.1 after 5.0 was installed or was it 1 update process?
Did you have sideloaded Apps installed and have there been any problems during installation?
Are the settings still the same or was there any kind of reset?
How about the speed of the system so far compared to OS4?
massiveseige said:
updated to fire os 5 and followed quickly to updating to 5.1.1.1 today
this is a saturn 8.9 hdx i tried the http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/root-t3272362
root method for 5.1.1.1 but this command
fastboot oem append-cmdline "androidboot.unlocked_kernel=true"
came as invalid command for me so the boot loaders are still configured differently for the new hd6 and the older hdx because we don't have this cmdline parameter
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For others still waiting for an update: try to avoid the 5.0 -> 5.1 update as there *may* be additional flexibility to boot (not flash) a custom recovery from fastboot environment. This would offer the potential for custom roms on a 4th gen device. All TDB.
I haven't received the OTA so I checked the amazon website. It's not there either. Am I stuck waiting on the OTA?
Vc027708 said:
I haven't received the OTA so I checked the amazon website. It's not there either. Am I stuck waiting on the OTA?
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Has anyone else got the ota yet? this is the first guy I seen has got 5.0 as of yet.
Hey sorry for the late reply
It updated to 5.0.0 first it was possible to stop the update to 5.1.1 by keeping WiFi off but I din't bother
I installed gapps and they work fine on 5.1.1 play store works fine all google apps like mail and maps and hangouts work solid no glitches the new version is smooth and way better YouTube app can play 1440p videos also I had to do the adb permission command to get play store to work
The way the ota is being rolled out is weird I know people who haven't received it yet on there kindle and it's been over 2 weeks since I got my update
lol... WOT?
Fire OS OTAs are usually Canary Releases [0]... or Narrow-OTAs (aka NOTAs): Rolled out to a small percentage of the populace initially after which these devices are monitored for stability and user-feedback. If all looks right, the OTAs are gradually rolled out to everyone (aka WOTAs).
[0] http://martinfowler.com/bliki/CanaryRelease.html
Any body else received OS5 yet? I'm still on 4.5.5.1
I'm in the US, still no joy here!
Got it last night, updated, lost root in update but regained after with Kingroot no problem.
Been checking daily, just now got the update!
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Just checked as well, amazon has the 5.1.1 update posted now.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_left_v4_sib?ie=UTF8&nodeId=201596890
In the US also. OS 5.1.1 is posted on Amazon for update NOW. 2 choices, select the OTA method or the manual way. The OTA didn't work for me as it couldn't find any updates; did download the file & use USB to copy the file to the internal storage (not into a folder) of the Fire HDX 8.9 4th gen.
Guys,
Sorry for noob question, how to mount system.new.dat (from update-kindle-22.5.4.1_user_541113320.bin)?
mount -o loop=/dev/loop0 system.new.dat /mnt
EXT4-fs (loop0): bad geometry: block count 393216 exceeds size of device (311922 blocks)
@ApokrifX http://forum.xda-developers.com/and.../how-to-conver-lollipop-dat-files-to-t2978952
extracted /system here - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2twXJIOgv-UbjZMZzFoTUhidVU/view?usp=sharing
My 8.9 updated at last.
Installed 5.1.1 manually on HDX Saturn and Google play store afterwards. Much better experience than OS4. Cleaner look and settings and more mature.
The only loss I found so far that the ability for VPN networks has been completely removed. I do not understand why Amazon did this?
epionier said:
Installed 5.1.1 manually on HDX Saturn and Google play store afterwards. Much better experience than OS4. Cleaner look and settings and more mature.
The only loss I found so far that the ability for VPN networks has been completely removed. I do not understand why Amazon did this?
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What method did you use to obtain the play store?
This method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122
epionier said:
This method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122
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Thanks, had to run it twice as first time didn't take for some reason.
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Ive just rebooted my fire tablet after installing some minecraft mods, when I turnt it back on it came up with a promt saying it was installing the latest software or what ever it does when doing the ota, I knew this from upgrading to 5.0.1.
is it possible it was just doing what happens when normal android optimises apps on boot. is there a app to check the installed software version as im not near my pc to unhide and go in and check what firmware im on. I put this in general as it wasnt a question but just to inform that my tablet possibly had a update despite the proper steps taken to hide the ota and updates.
Saw Same Message But No Update (whew)!
For a split second I saw that same message too when first starting the Fire up. But nothing happened and nothing updated. So I think it's still blocked. Even checking for updates still fails.
So I think we're OK!
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For a split second I saw that same message too when first starting the Fire up. But nothing happened and nothing updated. So I think it's still blocked. Even checking for updates still fails.
So I think we're OK!
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Have you tried unhiding to see the software version
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I didn't unhide it, but it says I'm still on 5.0.1. There was no update.
I saw the same thing but it didn't seem to update. I know the method i provided works for 5.0.0 to 5.0.1. Until there is a bump to 5.0.2 or whatever we don't know for sure if the "fix" works under 5.0.1.
Same thing happened to me but it was 3 days ago. I had been trying all day to install my adb drivers without success and switched off the device. When I restarted it immediately went into an update and I went into a panic that the new update would block the ability to access google play but immediately after the assumed "update" I successfully installed the adb drivers and google play without problem. I also checked the version and it still showed 5.0.1 so I wondered if my initial update on switching on the fire for the 1st time had somehow been unsuccessful and that had been what had been causing the inability to load the adb drivers although the tablet hadn't seemed to have any other problems and I had already downloaded and used several apps from Amazon.
I let it update upon first booting my Fire to 5.0.1. I was still successful in installing Google Playstore and hiding ads on lockscreen.
I'm not sure but i think that 'installing the latest software' screen is the android OS updating the dalvik runtime files after rebooting when an apk is modified. nothing to do with an ota.
julianpaul said:
I'm not sure but i think that 'installing the latest software' screen is the android OS updating the dalvik files after rebooting when an apk is modified. nothing to do with an ota.
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That is my conclusion also.
I had this happen to me also. Considering amazon patched a root method I made sure to root and nuke any chance of a future OTA unless I wanted it too. That was a cheap move, Amazon.
My device was running Fire OS 5.0 and I installed my copy of Titanium Pro (used APK extractor on another Android device as play not working on 5.0).
I then proceeded to kill as many Amazon processes based on my Remove Bloat thread - I actually deleted them from the device so that they were no longer there. I kept the OTA processes in place - reset the device from [Recovery Mode] and upon boot joined WiFi and proceeded with the upgrade to 5.01
The update by the looks of things repaired the Fire OS and the system processes that I had deleted were now back on the device (Kindle Book Store etc). It also removed root from the device.
So just like everyone says - disabled OTA updates if you do not wish t remove root.
Were you able to reinstall root post update?
shinji257 said:
Were you able to reinstall root post update?
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Sent from my Amazon Fire 2015
i reinstalled the firmware to give it real factory reset, and applied OTA twice yesterday, but I could make it rooted after that. So I guess you can reinstall root again because the updated system did not reject root.
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Were you able to reinstall root post update?
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Yes I was able to root 5.01 after the OTA update
I would strongly advise everyone to disable the OTA processes. If you want to update a new device from 5.0 to 5.0.1 you can do so manually. Fire (5th Gen) updates are available here https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201830180
Who knows when amazon will roll out the next OTA, tomorrow, next week, next month. And they certainly might block root with it. The fire cost us only $50, amazon may be losing money on the straight device price. They want us to spending money on all the premium amazon services that we are striping out as bloat. They may need the money to even break even.
Huh... This actually gave me some insight into the OTA bit. I went and pulled the latest update and it basically overwrites the system partition. That's why it seems to undo everything you did. This is good though because it also means if it won't boot then I should be able to get into 3e recovery and sideload the most recent update back to the device. I tested this by flashing google play then "repairing" using the update and google play was no longer present from this. It also doesn't seem to wipe userdata when doing this which is nice.
Amazon has posted the 5.1.2.1 version on the website :
https://kindle-fire-updates.s3.amaz...Wt5/update-kindle-20.5.4.2_user_542169020.bin
Kingroot probably does not work ...
I'll take it for a spin, to make sure the update via TWRP works smoothly, and report back.
Exercise caution until we know if downgrading 5.1.2.1 to the earlier versions is safe or not. The 2015 Fire forums report that the downgrade works fine. But the 2014 Fire HDs is a different beast ...
The bad news, the great news
bibikalka said:
Amazon has posted the 5.1.2.1 version on the website :
https://kindle-fire-updates.s3.amaz...Wt5/update-kindle-20.5.4.2_user_542169020.bin
Kingroot probably does not work ...
I'll take it for a spin, to make sure the update via TWRP works smoothly, and report back.
Exercise caution until we know if downgrading 5.1.2.1 to the earlier versions is safe or not. The 2015 Fire forums report that the downgrade works fine. But the 2014 Fire HDs is a different beast ...
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5.1.2.1 definitely can't be rooted with Kingroot. Tried multiple times, using all suggestions I've read, like clearing recents, clearing data/cache, standing on head (FWIW, there's a weird message: "Research requests is not enough (1 ppls)" Wonder if ppls is people and if more tried Kingroot on HD 7s (and 2015s) running OS 5.1.2.1 the KR folks might try to get us root. IDK, the msg may mean something else entirely.) Anyway . . .
OS 5.1.2.1 downgrades to 5.1.2 just fine!!! In stock recovery I factory reset, adb-sideloaded 5.1.2, and cleared cache. It booted into 5.1.2 purring like a kitten. Rooted with Kingroot no problem!
I have a nice little Windows tool that installs kingroot and as soon as user tells it tablet is rooted (hits Enter), it blocks OTA installation, looks for downloaded updates (and finds them!) and lists them for user to delete. Very handy. I've used it after several downgrades and haven't been caught with my OTAs down yet. Upgrades don't install until device is idle, so just have to hit enter as soon as rooted and you're safe. Will post it tomorrow. Needs testing on other (non-Win7) systems.
DoLooper said:
OS 5.1.2.1 downgrades to 5.1.2 just fine!!! In stock recovery I factory reset, adb-sideloaded 5.1.2, and cleared cache. It booted into 5.1.2 purring like a kitten. Rooted with Kingroot no problem!
I have a nice little Windows tool that installs kingroot and as soon as user tells it tablet is rooted (hits Enter), it blocks OTA installation, looks for downloaded updates (and finds them!) and lists them for user to delete. Very handy. I've used it after several downgrades and haven't been caught with my OTAs down yet. Upgrades don't install until device is idle, so just have to hit enter as soon as rooted and you're safe. Will post it tomorrow. Needs testing on other (non-Win7) systems.
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OK, nice ! Thanks for testing!
Not sure why cannot you block OTA before Kingroot ? Why not do "pm disable com.amazon.otaverifier" right away with Network off , then turn Network on, and run Kingroot?
bibikalka said:
Not sure why cannot you block OTA before Kingroot ? Why not do "pm disable com.amazon.otaverifier" right away with Network off , then turn Network on, and run Kingroot?
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Since 5.1.1 neither hide nor disable work without root. Disable won't run and hide returns new state=true, but hasn't done anything. Check output of Debloater.
EDIT: Disable=permission denial. Looks like hide doesn't return anything.
DoLooper said:
Since 5.1.1 neither hide nor disable work without root. Disable won't run and hide returns new state=true, but hasn't done anything. Check output of Debloater.
EDIT: Disable=permission denial. Looks like hide doesn't return anything.
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This is weird. It's a major departure from the usual Android, where one can block programs via adb & PC.
Is it just OTA that cannot be blocked ? Or other stuff like lockscreen ads are also unblockable ? Was this discussed somewhere here ?
This seems to suggest then that going to 4.5.3 first is preferred, this way one can block OTA before Kingroot, and then upgrade to Lollipop via TWRP.
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This is weird. It's a major departure from the usual Android, where one can block programs via adb & PC.
Is it just OTA that cannot be blocked ? Or other stuff like lockscreen ads are also unblockable ? Was this discussed somewhere here ?
This seems to suggest then that going to 4.5.3 first is preferred, this way one can block OTA before Kingroot, and then upgrade to Lollipop via TWRP.
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Discussion was mainly in 2015 forums, where people started getting updated. It's true of everything we block, although there were some reports of ads staying gone until a reboot. Not sure about that since (FWIW) if you pm hide anything, Debloater shows it as unblocked. When I first saw posts I assumed it would apply to Fire HD and tested. Just assumed it was known.
OTAverifier could be blocked on 4.5.3, so downgrading to that makes sense and is safest. I'm confident in my tool, though, although there's a risk of a update if an inattentive user walks away and leaves the system idle. I've got warnings in the script and as long as one is trying to root (or otherwise keeping the system busy), a download won't install--and the moment devicesoftwareota is renamed it CAN'T install. I've done this more than 10 times and found that I usually don't get a download, even when it takes many tries with a couple of reboots to root. Still, I once found an update in /sdcard/Android/data/com.amazon.device.software.ota/files and once found the prelimary file in /cache. Although they couldn't install after the rename block, this is why I put in the file check.
Finally tested the upgrade via TWRP, everything worked fine :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-hd/general/how-to-upgrade-to-lollipop-root-gapps-t3163950
This new version reports itself as 5.1.2 (Mar 30, 2016 build). Not sure what was fixed other than the bug that lets Kingroot in !
Paging DoLooper here, thanks again for the early testing!!!
Bought a new Fire HD 10 today, it came with OS 5.4.
I was able to get SU and load Google Play.
I did then try to set a new Launcher, but have not yet succeeded.
Now my question:
Can I update the OS to 5.6.x?
Or would I loose a lot of the other items?
Any hints, what I missed on changing the launcher?
You can update, the version 5.6.0.1 is rootable, the version from today, perhabs tomorrow it will be changed
Interestingly enough, it wont update to 5.6.xxx
I even did a factory reset and it fails to update
then i downloaded the 5.6 bin from Amazon, dropped it on the tablet and it doesn't update...
timf79 said:
Interestingly enough, it wont update to 5.6.xxx
I even did a factory reset and it fails to update
then i downloaded the 5.6 bin from Amazon, dropped it on the tablet and it doesn't update...
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try with adb sideload
Hi All,
Hope someone out there can help me.
So I have a Fire HD 10 that is about 1 year old and used fire Toolbox to have Microsoft launcher as a custom launcher and also did all the usual stuff like disabling ads etc and it worked perfectly.
Yesterday I got a new Fire HD 10 Plus for my wife (the latest version) on the black Friday offer
I have tried to do the same and install Microsoft launcher on it and everytime I hit the home button on the tab it just defaults back to the stock launcher.
I also have a problem with installing google services when it gets to installing Play store I get INSTALLATION FAILURE:[INSTALL_PARSE_FAILED_NOT_APK}
I am also unable to disable the OTA updates in the modify system settings menu.
The only thing that has worked so far is that the ad screen has been disabled.
Any help out there would be welcome.
Thanks
Does anyone have any information on when there will be an update to fire Toolbox so it works with the latest Fire HD's?
Just got a new one yesterday and it came with 7.3.2.2 version it will not load the custom launcher and reverts back to the stock launcher also unable to disable OTA updates.
Robnoon said:
Hi All,
Hope someone out there can help me.
So I have a Fire HD 10 that is about 1 year old and used fire Toolbox to have Microsoft launcher as a custom launcher and also did all the usual stuff like disabling ads etc and it worked perfectly.
Yesterday I got a new Fire HD 10 Plus for my wife (the latest version) on the black Friday offer
I have tried to do the same and install Microsoft launcher on it and everytime I hit the home button on the tab it just defaults back to the stock launcher.
I also have a problem with installing google services when it gets to installing Play store I get INSTALLATION FAILURE:[INSTALL_PARSE_FAILED_NOT_APK}
I am also unable to disable the OTA updates in the modify system settings menu.
The only thing that has worked so far is that the ad screen has been disabled.
Any help out there would be welcome.
Thanks
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I have the same problem. Did you find something on how to fix this?
Robnoon said:
Does anyone have any information on when there will be an update to fire Toolbox so it works with the latest Fire HD's?
Just got a new one yesterday and it came with 7.3.2.2 version it will not load the custom launcher and reverts back to the stock launcher also unable to disable OTA updates.
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I just got my Fire 10 9th gen replacement today and it came with 7.3.2.2
Luckily, my HD 10 Plus was bought in June worked great.
Hi,
The only fix I suggest is if your fire hd is less than 1 month old return it back to amazon for a full refund and get another and make sure you connect it to fire toolbox as soon as you get it to disable ota updates.
Have the same issue here, complete wipe of data and still there is the 7.3.2.2 installed. Really creepy that it directly came with my WIFI Setting INSTALLED...
Robnoon said:
Hi,
The only fix I suggest is if your fire hd is less than 1 month old return it back to amazon for a full refund and get another and make sure you connect it to fire toolbox as soon as you get it to disable ota updates.
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I just got a new fire hd (8-10th gen) and will do this. Thanks. Two questions. 1) I already have downloaded the toolbox. Once I connect my new Fire will the toolbox see it and activate or do I have to do something (e.g. reinstall it)? 2) Does the toolbox prevent Fire from auto installing new s/w versions? TIA
Robnoon said:
Hi All,
Hope someone out there can help me.
So I have a Fire HD 10 that is about 1 year old and used fire Toolbox to have Microsoft launcher as a custom launcher and also did all the usual stuff like disabling ads etc and it worked perfectly.
Yesterday I got a new Fire HD 10 Plus for my wife (the latest version) on the black Friday offer
I have tried to do the same and install Microsoft launcher on it and everytime I hit the home button on the tab it just defaults back to the stock launcher.
I also have a problem with installing google services when it gets to installing Play store I get INSTALLATION FAILURE:[INSTALL_PARSE_FAILED_NOT_APK}
I am also unable to disable the OTA updates in the modify system settings menu.
The only thing that has worked so far is that the ad screen has been disabled.
Any help out there would be welcome.
Thanks
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I had the same issue on my Fire HD 10 with Fire Toolbox V25.2. I reran the install by reopening TB and clicked on the Google Services option and it installed completely on Fire OS 7.3.2.2. Hopefully, this will solve your Plus install.
Hi - I need to remove everything Amazon on my tablet - disable OTA - flash it completely out of this universe. Whatever it takes I must turn this amazon tablet into an Android one. Please, has anyone got the guide for me to do this properly? I am aware of some update that disabled the feature to disable OTA in toolbox.
Thank you
Hi - I need to remove everything Amazon on my tablet - disable OTA - flash it completely out of this universe. Whatever it takes I must turn this amazon tablet into an Android one. Please, has anyone got the guide for me to do this properly? I am aware of some update that disabled the feature to disable OTA in toolbox.
Thank you
Would require you find both a Custom Recovery and a Custom ROM, both suitable to tablet.
I have a Fire HD 10 (9th gen). I did a factory reset.
Using Toolbox V26.1, after I install Disney+ from Hybrid apps it is asking me to signup and pay a monthly fee.
The toolbox says it could be used without having to register.
Am I doing something incorrectly or am I not doing something I'm supposed to do?
I received my Fire 10 yesterday. When I booted it, it scared the hell out of me how they already knew everything about me. I immediately thought it was the most disgusting device I've ever purchased, because of the software, but then I used fire toolbox and thought I was in heaven, except when I opened it today, I realized that I was in hell. Amazon had reset the whole tablet but left the Google apps. I should have known it was too good to be true. I stopped rooting after marshmallow and will now have to learn it all over again.
picassokat said:
I received my Fire 10 yesterday. When I booted it, it scared the hell out of me how they already knew everything about me. I immediately thought it was the most disgusting device I've ever purchased, because of the software, but then I used fire toolbox and thought I was in heaven, except when I opened it today, I realized that I was in hell. Amazon had reset the whole tablet but left the Google apps. I should have known it was too good to be true. I stopped rooting after marshmallow and will now have to learn it all over again.
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Same problems here! I got the 9th gen hd10. They know everything about me! Please let me know if you find a solution. I am interested in the fire toolbox, and would like to try it. Where to download the latest version and instructions? Thank you!
can u also help me i have an amazon 11th gen 2021 tab. bought just this month from lazada Phils. i already disabled the OTA and change the screen lock unfortunately I cannot downgrade the fire launcher and change it from the launcher from fire toolbox. it has the latest version of android because i accidentally clicked the update button. what could be the problem?
russell montojo said:
can u also help me i have an amazon 11th gen 2021 tab. bought just this month from lazada Phils. i already disabled the OTA and change the screen lock unfortunately I cannot downgrade the fire launcher and change it from the launcher from fire toolbox. it has the latest version of android because i accidentally clicked the update button. what could be the problem?
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The update is the problem. So no custom launcher as standard launcher anymore.