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Dear People,
I am posting this out of big ENVY from my friend's story of his iPh*** 4 battery life with 40hrs ++ of usage (social network on, moderate usage, data always on, bla bla bla) and he still got 20% left of his battery!!!
I was just wondering did anyone managed to experience 40hrs ++ of battery lifetime? My best achievement with my nexus s battery life is
1 day 3 hrs with
MIUI Rom JB 2.8.17
Marmite Kernel 4.3
SmartassV2/deadline
100/1000
Automatic brightness on
Could we EVER achieved 40hrs ++ battery lifetime??? Since Iph*** 4 has practically same specs with Nexus S
It has 1Ghz procs, 512mb ram, 1500mah battery, bla bla bla
Any comments?
A very big advantage of the iphone is the very dim (to my opinion) screen backlight. If you change that to default 1 min instead of 20 on a custom rom, and then change your auto brightness values as well to lower ones your lifetime should increase alot. At least mine does. Also I use Llama to close mobile data after 5 minutes of sleep and then instantly turn it on on unlock. Anyway..we will never be able to win versus apple at some things. They have one operating system made for one device. We got one operating system for like..1 milion devices? That's the same story of console vs pc games.
andrei.voinea93 said:
A very big advantage of the iphone is the very dim (to my opinion) screen backlight. If you change that to default 1 min instead of 20 on a custom rom, and then change your auto brightness values as well to lower ones your lifetime should increase alot. At least mine does. Also I use Llama to close mobile data after 5 minutes of sleep and then instantly turn it on on unlock. Anyway..we will never be able to win versus apple at some things. They have one operating system made for one device. We got one operating system for like..1 milion devices? That's the same story of console vs pc games.
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Never used iOS devices before...So they have those kind of things hey..
I agree with you with the point that their OS was made for one device, while us is for millions
Thanks for the comment
I've been getting pretty excellent battery life lately, will put up a screen shot but got almost 52hrs battery life with wifi and 3g on until it got to about 15% with about 2h 24m screen on time, although this was pretty light usage to be fair.
Using codename 3.3.2 with standard kernal, I turned NFC off and this seemed to help massively although I've also heard the new Maps app has solved some battery drain so not sure which has contributed the most.
cptblubear said:
I've been getting pretty excellent battery life lately, will put up a screen shot but got almost 52hrs battery life with wifi and 3g on until it got to about 15% with about 2h 24m screen on time, although this was pretty light usage to be fair.
Using codename 3.3.2 with standard kernal, I turned NFC off and this seemed to help massively although I've also heard the new Maps app has solved some battery drain so not sure which has contributed the most.
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52hrs?????? Cant wait for your screenshots man!
You may think the specs are the same, but the hw in the iPhone and power management is still superior. They get a push notification, even while the 3g radio is in idle and almost off (in which it saves more power). It's hard for Android to optimize the power management specially because of that many hardware variations, it's not only the CPU that counts.
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You may think the specs are the same, but the hw in the iPhone and power management is still superior. They get a push notification, even while the 3g radio is in idle and almost off (in which it saves more power). It's hard for Android to optimize the power management specially because of that many hardware variations, it's not only the CPU that counts.
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Well, thats good to know, but since its the software differences (meaning coding and stuff), surely (i assume and hope) that we could also applied it (somehow) in our devices through tweaks, can we?
IMHO not much is possible since this is older hardware already and a question for how long will Google bother with it. It might be alot of work needed and you gain some insignificant amount of savings.
Would be nice to see some kind of power management tweaks in coming version of Android though.
well its halfly because android works differently and half way because of the hardware.
yes, the hardware is similar, but the nexus screen takes up more power, the processor is not very efficient, and nfc takes up power... also, the 3g radios are honestly HORRIBLE on the nexus s and that might have something to do with it.
but, the software side does make a major impact. iPhones do not multitask like android, which saves power on slower devices like the iphone 4. thats only half of it though, for instance, the iphone 4S has much worse battery life than the nexus s (by far). ROMs make a big difference also, I am very picky when choosing a ROM- if it doesnt have great battery life then I immediately replace it by another ROM that does.
I get on average about 16-20hours pretty consistantly if you are wondering, and I am OK with that as long as it makes it to the end of the day... I wake at 3:30 and normally it does. My advice is to experiment with different ROMs, I would suggest some, but I use an S 4G...
I don't really believe it. My friend has an iPhone and he uses it quit a bit and seems to have to keep it plugged in as much as I keep my phone. I think he said he usually gets about 8 hrs out of it. And the screen is pretty dull compared to mine so that might make a difference to
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The iPhone screen is a lot smaller too and that's a big tradeoff.
I always get a chuckle at the iHerd people I see on the bus holding their tiny screen 6 inches in front of their face so they can read it.
If battery life is really a concern get a couple of spare batteries and a charger.
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The iPhone screen is a lot smaller too and that's a big tradeoff.
I always get a chuckle at the iHerd people I see on the bus holding their tiny screen 6 inches in front of their face so they can read it.
If battery life is really a concern get a couple of spare batteries and a charger.
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Or an extended battery...
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heccubusxda said:
The iPhone screen is a lot smaller too and that's a big tradeoff.
I always get a chuckle at the iHerd people I see on the bus holding their tiny screen 6 inches in front of their face so they can read it.
If battery life is really a concern get a couple of spare batteries and a charger.
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Thats a good point too, smaller screen
Use this as yours to shut him up apples wack i got this oc to 1400 on stock with air kernel 186
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nucleor1989 said:
Use this as yours to shut him up apples wack i got this oc to 1400 on stock with air kernel 186
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Whoaaaah! What rom and settings? Awesome!
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Data was on all the time ? Ive got 33 hrs once but this is insane
I have achieved 50 hours on cna ... yes codename android but dang I forgot to take a screenshot of it I didn't have data on that time though
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Lasting 40+ hours is easy if you don't use the phone much...
The screenshot was taken on a long weekend a while ago. I was busy during the weekend and didn't use my phone much apart from listening to music for no more than 2 hours.
Si_NZ said:
Lasting 40+ hours is easy if you don't use the phone much...
The screenshot was taken on a long weekend a while ago. I was busy during the weekend and didn't use my phone much apart from listening to music for no more than 2 hours.
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Thats true, but from the iphone their data was on all the time, mid moderate usage.
But, just like some people said, power managwment chip, the os, makes big differences
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I know many people have been saying the low benchmark scores on the Nexus 4 are due to "thermal throttling" but I don't really believe this. It's supposedly based on the optimus g, and if that doesn't suffer from this thermal throttling issue, then why would the Nexus 4? I personally believe it's just due to the software. People are also saying that an update won't boost the performance by that much, but I'm not sure what to believe.
So do you guys really believe that the nexus 4 is over-heating and under-clocking itself, or do you believe it is just in need of an update?
It may be a faulty unit from that reviewer, I only recall one review saying it overheated. The software is also to blame. I made a post in another thread about the performance with these pre-release software versions the reviewers have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33634026#post33634026
Unfinalized software on all these review devices is probably the bottleneck. Not to mention benchmarks have zero bearing on anything ever.
And Testing units and software do have a tendency to carry heavy logcats and monitoring software... I remember from the ICS days how "heavy" most leaks would run progressively getting better by the update ...
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Unfinalized software on all these review devices is probably the bottleneck. Not to mention benchmarks have zero bearing on anything ever.
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Whilst benchmarks shouldn't matter too much, when this beastly specced phone is getting worse scores than the msm8960 with adreno 225, then it will obviously raise some concerns.
E3SEL said:
I know many people have been saying the low benchmark scores on the Nexus 4 are due to "thermal throttling" but I don't really believe this. It's supposedly based on the optimus g, and if that doesn't suffer from this thermal throttling issue, then why would the Nexus 4? I personally believe it's just due to the software. People are also saying that an update won't boost the performance by that much, but I know if I wrote the drivers for the phone, it wouldn't even start.
Do you guys really believe that the nexus 4 is over-heating and under-clocking itself, or do you believe it is just in need of an update? Also, another thing I wonder is this: is it called the nexus 4 because it has a 4" (4.7", I know) display, or is it called a nexus 4, because it is the fourth nexus?
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I wouldn't say I'm good or experienced enough with Android smartphones to decide whether or not it's due to software, but I sure hope it is. I'm really only judging this particular issue by what everyone else is saying.
In regards to the sceen size and "Nexus 4" theory, I agree. Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 are a good example of device names in correlation with screen sizes here.
just wondering why did google name their nexus phone 10 wbefore the fourth one
I think it all came from a comment at Anandtech, they attempted to run all the GLBenchmark tests one after another, most web sites just chose 1 or 2 tests, usually Egypt HD. Most devices crash when trying to run all GLBenchmark test serially, it does on my Nexus 7, something to to do with running out of memory allocation.
Nexus 4 in a kind of suicidally awesome way completes the entire GLBenchmark suite in one go, but running all those test including offscreen & onscreen is a long brutal test, maxing out the SoC in a way no game is likely to do, so the fact that the device is thermal regulating itself is not that strange.
If Anandtech tested individual elements of GLBenchmark, as most other review sites do, this issue would not have occurred. In fact they admitted that the Optimus G could not run all tests consecutively, so they only tested individual elements, hence no the device didn't get downclcoked due to thermal limits. It is not good that Anandtech has this disparity in testing methodology, I like the website a lot, but some thing recently have led me to question a few things, but that is another story.
Every phone overheats nowadays so there's nothing different with the n4.
This is pretty interesting
Benchmark comparison. Once at room temp, once in freezer. Freezer scores are significantly better
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/...es-show-the-real-power-of-the-s4-pro-soc.html
So yeah... Kinda does look like pretty bad thermal issues Hopefully just cause it was pre-release or something
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If Anandtech tested individual elements of GLBenchmark, as most other review sites do, this issue would not have occurred. In fact they admitted that the Optimus G could not run all tests consecutively, so they only tested individual elements, hence no the device didn't get downclcoked due to thermal limits. It is not good that Anandtech has this disparity in testing methodology, I like the website a lot, but some thing recently have led me to question a few things, but that is another story.
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But they singled out the Optimus G, because it was unable to complete more complex tests because of crashes.
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This is pretty interesting
Benchmark comparison. Once at room temp, once in freezer. Freezer scores are significantly better
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/...es-show-the-real-power-of-the-s4-pro-soc.html
So yeah... Kinda does look like pretty bad thermal issues Hopefully just cause it was pre-release or something
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Wow, that is a very interesting find. I was actually thinking that someone should do a freezer test just see if it is overheating. This article would seem to prove that it is. Those retests show dramatically higher scores, more on par with what the S4 processor should be capable of.
They said that perhaps the retail versions will have a higher tolerance for heat because they did not think they felt that hot. More testing and info is needed though.
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They said that perhaps the retail versions will have a higher tolerance for heat because they did not think they felt that hot. More testing and info is needed though.
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To elaborate, straight from the source, in the Anandtech podcast this morning Brian commented that the phone seemed to be set to throttle at 60 degrees (for the dual-krait S4 at least it's usually around 80 afaik) and at that point the exterior of the phone was much cooler than a lot of other phones. (He talks about it at about 00:51:00.)
Something to think about.
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To elaborate, straight from the source, in the Anandtech podcast this morning Brian commented that the phone seemed to be set to throttle at 60 degrees (for the dual-krait S4 at least it's usually around 80 afaik) and at that point the exterior of the phone was much cooler than a lot of other phones. (He talks about it at about 00:51:00.)
Something to think about.
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That means it's a simple tweak, and so as long as people aren't noticing excessive heat (which we would have heard from reviews) on the phone itself then is sounds like things will be fine for the release.
Yes IT FREAKING OVERHEATS
E3SEL said:
I know many people have been saying the low benchmark scores on the Nexus 4 are due to "thermal throttling" but I don't really believe this. It's supposedly based on the optimus g, and if that doesn't suffer from this thermal throttling issue, then why would the Nexus 4? I personally believe it's just due to the software. People are also saying that an update won't boost the performance by that much, but I know if I wrote the drivers for the phone, it wouldn't even start.
Do you guys really believe that the nexus 4 is over-heating and under-clocking itself, or do you believe it is just in need of an update? Also, another thing I wonder is this: is it called the nexus 4 because it has a 4" (4.7", I know) display, or is it called a nexus 4, because it is the fourth nexus?
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I've had the phone for five days now and it definitely overheats. The last time it overheated was this morning. I got up, looked at the phone and unplugged it from the charger. Went to attend to my toddler for 20 mins and came back and saw that the phone was very warm and battery life was hit 20 percent. I did a check on battery usage under 'battery' in settings and saw that the playstore app had sucked 50% of the power of late. This is HIGHLY unusual becuase usually the screen is what sucks the most juice. I turned it off and turned it back on and it went back to being normal. During this overheating the phone stutters EXTREMELY visibly. Probably due to the massive thermal throttling of the cores. Once it cools off it goes back to being normal. This happens randomly and occurs once or twice a day. I've reported the bug to google. Otherwise the phone is superb.
That sounds like the Play Store app is misbehaving. Have you tried clearing the data?
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Remember it's winter at northern hemisphere. So overheating might not be obvious.
Any friends in southern hemisphere (Australia) wanna chime in with their temperatures?
Paradisle said:
I've had the phone for five days now and it definitely overheats. The last time it overheated was this morning. I got up, looked at the phone and unplugged it from the charger. Went to attend to my toddler for 20 mins and came back and saw that the phone was very warm and battery life was hit 20 percent. I did a check on battery usage under 'battery' in settings and saw that the playstore app had sucked 50% of the power of late. This is HIGHLY unusual becuase usually the screen is what sucks the most juice. I turned it off and turned it back on and it went back to being normal. During this overheating the phone stutters EXTREMELY visibly. Probably due to the massive thermal throttling of the cores. Once it cools off it goes back to being normal. This happens randomly and occurs once or twice a day. I've reported the bug to google. Otherwise the phone is superb.
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Same thing happened to me earlier today, I unplugged the phone from the charger and was extremely hot. I panic and shut the phone off. I rooted the phone last night so that was the only thing I did differently. I've had the phone for almost a week.
I also noticed the battery was draining way too quickly.
More like rogue apps... had the phone for over a month now, heavy usage every day and never once has it "overheated"as people say.
If im multitasking, like listening to music, downloading a torrent in the backgroud while playing angry birds or something the top back of the phone will get warm, but nothing unbearable if i deliberatly grab and hold the phone at that spot.
It's a glass phone... it will get warmer than most people are used to... its bascially the same glass that the new kitchen ovens use as a top surface... if you can cook on a glasstop stove... a phone heating up will be the same principle, albit on a smaller scale..
So yes, for the people complaining about heat.. then say in the next breath that they lost battery in some % form... funny how nobody is telling what they have installed as extra..or post screenshots of the battery page to back up the claim with info so we can help...large loss of battery % right away points to a rogue app somewhere.. you dont magically lose 10-20-50% whatever battery when unplugging the phone... thats something stuck running that is forcing your cpu to run at max for an extended period of time.
so as the internet expression says "fraps or it didnt happen" (screenshot or it didnt happen) lol
I am seeing battery temp reach 40C during antutu benchmark test running 4.2.2. Looks like it is only affecting a few devices. It gets warm during the benchmark test but nothing like unbearable heat.
How does the best that apple has to offer (4,4s,5 whatever) compare to our Nexus 4 in terms of screen on time. I see 4-5 hours screen on which I read is normal. 2 1/2 hours if playing a big game like The Sims 3. I can't seem to find a straight answer through searching so I was hoping a well versed Android user can tell me how many hours of screen on time that a healthy iDevice achieves on average.
They actually magically have some great battery. That is if their on a bugless ios version. From all the past idevices I've had I get more than average battery. I guess it depends on the user.. As for charging they charge hella quick.
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Great question
Ios battery life is better simply because it's much simpler compare to avoid complex os with true multitasking. N4 also has to support a more powerful chip and bigger screen.
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Yeah, you really can't compare. N4 has: Bigger screen, more powerful processor, faster gpu... the iPhone has better battery life most likely because it is better optimized and has a far smaller screen.
I really don't care about what you can and can't compare. I would just like to know what real users experience on an iPhone in terms of screen on as I've always been an Android user.
Also the iPhone 5 does have a 4 inch screen, dual core and 1gb ram so I'd expect it to last longer as well as not be a contender with the N4 in performance. Sims 3 on the N4 is unbelievable.
I don't want to have to register on another forum and would just like to hear from a real user.
I don't know about that. I am surrounded by people who use iPhones, and everyone of them think that their battery life is ****. I reckon that at this point every smart phone (apart from the Note II which has a huge battery) just have crappy battery life.
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I don't know about that. I am surrounded by people who use iPhones, and everyone of them think that their battery life is ****. I reckon that at this point every smart phone (apart from the Note II which has a huge battery) just have crappy battery life.
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Wow I just did a search on Note II average battery life and am seeing many screen shots with 8 hours! If it weren't for the facts that I don't want to carry a tablet in my pocket everyday and my N4 (and Gnex before it) never once has come close to running out of battery before coming home at night, I may consider the Note 3 or current phablet as my next phone in a few years.
Still would like an answer to my original question, though.
Anyone?
If you check the Anandtech Nexus 4 review (I can't post a link as I'm a new user) it compares the the 4, 4S and 5 to the Nexus 4 in browsing tests. For all devices screen brightness was set to 200 nits however the nexus is stock. In short you'll get about twice as much browsing time out of an iPhone 5 as you will from a stock Nexus 4 on mobile data. On wifi you'll get about 1.6 times. Although it's not a "screen-on" test it's a good gauge of battery life.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/google-nex...test-see-if-its-better-than-the-galaxy-nexus/
The iPhone5 does consistently great in battery benchmarks.
The Web Browsing performance (what matters most IMO) is hands-down incredible.
My guess is that the smaller screen and highly optimized CPU are responsible.
Well here's the drill. I'm coming from a oneplus one with outstanding battery life and Ive had the note for a day now, battery life has sucked so much, so so much and it even lags sometimes, I can literally see the percentage dropping. Every site I check rates note 5 higher for battery life than note 5, which seems odd to me, and I don't know what to do, should I get the nexus 6p or keep this phone and learn to live with it? Is the oneplus one from outer space for that battery life?
You might get some biased answers here since this is a 6p forum but I'd check the battery stats first, see what's causing that drain. Some phones require a few charges to optimize the battery too. Finally, it could just be a faulty model
I researched the Note 5 real hard between trying out an iPhone 6S+ and buying a 6P. I was coming from an S5 and the wife has a Note 3, which we both like quite a bit. Her Note is actually what got me wanting a bigger screen than my S5. But I did read a lot of complaints about the Note 5 battery life (and the glass backs cracking, even saw a display model at Best Buy with a busted back glass). And being I'm Verizon with no chance to root a Note 5, I opted for the 6P. Battery life has been very good with a few tweaks. Browse through the threads here to find what works. And you don't have to go nuts with the tweaks. For me, just running a custom Kernel, using Greenify for a few apps and not installing GasBuddy were all that was needed.
The Nexus 6P is a great device from a software point of view (= guaranteed updates, no Knox or other nasty stuff ) but not very durable from a mechanical point of view. You really have to take care when using this phone because the Aluminum body is weak and prone to warping or bending. That´s the only downside of this device..
I would say if you're looking to switch because of battery life you likely won't find find much relief by switching to the Nexus 6P. Most new high end phones are clocking in 4-6 hours of screen on time. The Oneplus One may have provided you better battery life due to the lower resolution screen, older (probably less power hungry) processor, and tweaks that were part of CyanogenMod. What kind of screen on time are you getting between the Oneplus One and Note 5?
In terms of performance, I haven't seen a single issue with the Nexus 6P, but screen on time maxes out for me around 4-5 hours. The standby time has been much improved in Marshmallow, but that update should be seen soon-ish on the Note 5.
I've found myself in the same boat, the Note is pretty damn good but there are some software issues such as the memory management, bloat and most of all 32gb not being close to enough HD space. Is the warp thing really an issue? I've not heard of anything regarding it.
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I've found myself in the same boat, the Note is pretty damn good but there are some software issues such as the memory management, bloat and most of all 32gb not being close to enough HD space. Is the warp thing really an issue? I've not heard of anything regarding it.
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Yes, it is an issue. I'd be willing to say that almost every device will suffer from it (even if the owner does not realise) mine warped after a day in a case.
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Yes, it is an issue. I'd be willing to say that almost every device will suffer from it (even if the owner does not realise) mine warped after a day in a case.
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Yes, just read through the 'bent after 2 days' thread and that certainly sound worrying. Really wanted to switch over with the annoyances of the Note lately. Is it enough to warrant not switching or something to 'live with'?
You won't notice it honestly, I just make sure I don't sit on it or anything. The phone itself is a lot better than the note 5. Worth the buy if you're careful
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Yes, just read through the 'bent after 2 days' thread and that certainly sound worrying. Really wanted to switch over with the annoyances of the Note lately. Is it enough to warrant not switching or something to 'live with'?
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If I have any kind of warping on my Nexus 6P I can't see it. The only time warping might be bothersome is if you want to use a tempered glass screen protector, as it will peel away from the display.
Regardless, if you already have a current generation high end Android, you're probaly better off waiting for the next generation. Unless you really got money to burn!
I had the Note 5 before upgrading to the 6P. I am much happier with the 6P, it's better in every way IMO with the exception of the Note 5 having a bit better camera.
I had a OPO and loved the battery life, I went to the N6 and then the N6P and wouldn't even think of any other phone at this point. If you enjoy tweaking, the 6P is the phone for you. Running Cataclysm rom + ElementalX + Pay and V4A, I get between 5-6 hours of SOT, but more importantly for me, I'm usually around 30-40% after my long work day.
I've not had a single issue with any bend or warp. I always put a tempered screen protector on and a very minimal case. I would imagine any thin, larger phone will bend if in your rear pocket if sat on, the IPhone6+ had a similar "issue".
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Regardless, if you already have a current generation high end Android, you're probaly better off waiting for the next generation. Unless you really got money to burn!
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Lucky the note still has good resale value here! Can sell it and pick up a 64gb Nexus for the same price off Gumtree.
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Yes, just read through the 'bent after 2 days' thread and that certainly sound worrying. Really wanted to switch over with the annoyances of the Note lately. Is it enough to warrant not switching or something to 'live with'?
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I don't think so, but I don't carry my phone in my pocket. I use a NiteIze belt carrier. It did make me opt for getting the phone straight from Google though, so I could get the Google Protect program on it. Cost me a little more to get it that way, but good peace of mind since all the feedback I've read about using that program has been very good.
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Well here's the drill. I'm coming from a oneplus one with outstanding battery life and Ive had the note for a day now, battery life has sucked so much, so so much and it even lags sometimes, I can literally see the percentage dropping. Every site I check rates note 5 higher for battery life than note 5, which seems odd to me, and I don't know what to do, should I get the nexus 6p or keep this phone and learn to live with it? Is the oneplus one from outer space for that battery life?
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So far battery life has been excellent for me. I uploaded this for another thread but it may help answer your questions. I should mention that since the last full charge I have not been playing games or streaming video, which might have move the drop-off point up a few hours.
I am sure you can see, there are a bunch of 6P owners complaining about battery life also. My opinion is biased but my 6P seems great with all the stuffs on so far. I would recommend going a full day with location services turned off, google now fully turned off, to see how much drain there is. I came from a Note 4 and that got pretty good battery life with location services off and google now off. I manually turned the GPS on and off when I needed it. Also try removing/disabling as much Samsung and carrier bloatware as possible.
Hello,
My Nexus 6P, albeit a great phone, is starting to get a little slow and the battery life has suffered. My memory usage isn't high, around 2GB. I close all apps after using them. I haven't even used close to half of my 64GB storage.
I am a very heavy phone user, and I am having to recharge my 6P more than once every day. I cannot sustainably use max screen brightness as it drains the battery too quickly, a shame because maximum brightness on this phone is so beautiful!
From some testing, it is taking 2 minutes and 3 seconds to drop 1% in battery life at maximum screen brightness while watching YouTube. Round to two minutes, multiply by 100, and that gives you 200 minutes. 3 hours and 20 minutes.. that is silly, plus the battery drops off faster as the percentage decreases (I tested at 94%).
Realistically, I can get 2.5-3 hours on this phone at maximum brightness - is there something wrong, or is this just the phone? While writing this post in 5 minutes, I dropped another 3%...
It should be pretty obvious that a 2k screen at maximum (!) brightness can drain the battery faster.
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It should be pretty obvious that a 2k screen at maximum (!) brightness can drain the battery faster.
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Yes, but Techradar's test of a 90 minute video with adaptive brightness OFF (like me) takes battery down to 75%. That's 25% down in 1.5 hours, meaning the battery life of their test model would be 6 hours video playback, more than double what I get.
What gives?
Lower the brightness.
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Yes, but Techradar's test of a 90 minute video with adaptive brightness OFF (like me) takes battery down to 75%. That's 25% down in 1.5 hours, meaning the battery life of their test model would be 6 hours video playback, more than double what I get.
What gives?
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You're taking 1 instance of a test and multiplying it as it the variables within that instance will remain the same. Batteries drain faster the more they are used in an instance because of the heat. This type of test can be done with a flashlight. Turn it on for an extended period of time and then turn it off for a few seconds. Turn it on again and the brightness will be at max (for the batteries' capacity at the time), after about 5 seconds, the light will dim suddenly.
Same thing happens in phones. Manage your brightness.
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Jammol said:
You're taking 1 instance of a test and multiplying it as it the variables within that instance will remain the same. Batteries drain faster the more they are used in an instance because of the heat. This type of test can be done with a flashlight. Turn it on for an extended period of time and then turn it off for a few seconds. Turn it on again and the brightness will be at max (for the batteries' capacity at the time), after about 5 seconds, the light will dim suddenly.
Same thing happens in phones. Manage your brightness.
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So essentially, this is just the battery life of the 6P?
Seems a little weird to give a phone such a beautiful display but we are unable to use it to its full extent because it won't last.
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So essentially, this is just the battery life of the 6P?
Seems a little weird to give a phone such a beautiful display but we are unable to use it to its full extent because it won't last.
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I can't say that, but I can say there's no device that we can expect to just use that way. All devices (even outside of smartphones) are like that. If it runs on a battery expect not to be able to use it to its full capabilities for an extended period of time.
Cars are the same way. If you run it at max speed all the time (if there were no laws), you'll run out of gas extremely quickly, compared to 65mph. Same concept applies here. It sucks but that's the way it is.
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The battery of this phone is poor, no doubt in that. However what I found is that my previous phone (which I had to RMA) lasted much longer than the current one. Around 1-1.5-2(barely)hr more SOT. Don't know how this could happen.
Yeah, 6P is not what I expected it to be.
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The battery of this phone is poor, no doubt in that. However what I found is that my previous phone (which I had to RMA) lasted much longer than the current one. Around 1-1.5-2(barely)hr more SOT. Don't know how this could happen.
Yeah, 6P is not what I expected it to be.
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Not saying you are wrong, but I feel like some say that about every phone. I will have to wait and see when mine gets here.
When the Note 5 came out there were so many people saying how terrible it was with battery life. Almost turned me away from getting it. Finally decided to take the plunge and guess what? It's pretty much the same as all the other phones I have had. The phone don't suck, our usage changes based on the device we have. I use my Note 5 more than I did my Note 4, battery still lasts me all day but needs to be charged about an hour after I get home. Note 4 made it until bedtime but I had a company phone to use all day.
I'm hoping the 6P can handle me all day. No pen to use so it should be fine.
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Jammol said:
Not saying you are wrong, but I feel like some say that about every phone. I will have to wait and see when mine gets here.
When the Note 5 came out there were so many people saying how terrible it was with battery life. Almost turned me away from getting it. Finally decided to take the plunge and guess what? It's pretty much the same as all the other phones I have had. The phone don't suck, our usage changes based on the device we have. I use my Note 5 more than I did my Note 4, battery still lasts me all day but needs to be charged about an hour after I get home. Note 4 made it until bedtime but I had a company phone to use all day.
I'm hoping the 6P can handle me all day. No pen to use so it should be fine.
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I don't get why you're getting the 6P if you already have the Note 5. Like having two or more phones uh?
I got the 6P in place of the Note 5. I had a Note 4 before (it was defective I believe), it had terrible battery life (very rarely 4.5 to 5 hours SOT) and heats up to 75C very easily. Sure the 6P is cheaper, but I could've gotten the Note 5 if I wanted because this device is going to be there for at least 2 years. The thought of I can't bear anymore of TouchWiz was the only reason I got 6P. I thought the Note 5 would heat similarly and that 6P was better overall. But now I think I'm wrong, the Note 5 is a slightly better phone.
My 6P heats way too much (though not as much as my Note 4 did). Battery not upto expectation. Inconsistent camera (exposure problems). Throttling issues.
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I don't get why you're getting the 6P if you already have the Note 5. Like having two or more phones uh?
I got the 6P in place of the Note 5. I had a Note 4 before (it was defective I believe), it had terrible battery life (very rarely 4.5 to 5 hours SOT) and heats up to 75C very easily. Sure the 6P is cheaper, but I could've gotten the Note 5 if I wanted because this device is going to be there for at least 2 years. The thought of I can't bear anymore of TouchWiz was the only reason I got 6P. I thought the Note 5 would heat similarly and that 6P was better overall. But now I think I'm wrong, the Note 5 is a slightly better phone.
My 6P heats way too much (though not as much as my Note 4 did). Battery not upto expectation. Inconsistent camera (exposure problems). Throttling issues.
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I actually don't mind touchwiz especially now that they have trimmed most of the fat and you can theme it now. Sad I'll miss out on AOSP/CM on it but I guess that's what the Nexus line is for. As far as the 6P being worse than the Note 5, I think it's based on usage patterns. The Note 5 has it's own slew of issues, radio especially for me, it does tend to heat up but not as bad as some other phones. Slippery as hell OMG!!! And that all glass thing is just absolutely nightmarish! It is still a fantastic device though and I will miss it greatly.
I'm getting it because of Project Fi. It will be cheaper for my wife and I compared to what we pay now for T-Mobile. We will be saving just over $60. That's date night once a month right there, Lol. I am actually getting rid of my Note 5, and unfortunately earlier today I dropped it on the road without a case on!!!!!!!!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
I cried....no shame there....my own damn fault too.
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I actually don't mind touchwiz especially now that they have trimmed most of the fat and you can theme it now. Sad I'll miss out on AOSP/CM on it but I guess that's what the Nexus line is for. As far as the 6P being worse than the Note 5, I think it's based on usage patterns. The Note 5 has it's own slew of issues, radio especially for me, it does tend to heat up but not as bad as some other phones. Slippery as hell OMG!!! And that all glass thing is just absolutely nightmarish! It is still a fantastic device though and I will miss it greatly.
I'm getting it because of Project Fi. It will be cheaper for my wife and I compared to what we pay now for T-Mobile. We will be saving just over $60. That's date night once a month right there, Lol. I am actually getting rid of my Note 5, and unfortunately earlier today I dropped it on the road without a case on!!!!!!!!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
I cried....no shame there....my own damn fault too.
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Maaan.. You could've just used a case! :
You do know that the 6P bends very easily without a case right (I got to know after I bought the device).
So you're getting the 6P as a replacement to your Note 5? I don't get why I see many people using the 6P after the Note 5. Is the 6P actually better?
Do let me know about your thoughts when you get your phone.
I've found that since a security patch update around February that my phones battery drops so much quicker. I used to be able to get 5 hours sot. I've seen a few people post on this issue and with it being a software issue I'm becoming extremely frustrated with android. I'm ashamed to say I'm considering selling the 6p and getting an Iphone
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Maaan.. You could've just used a case! :
You do know that the 6P bends very easily without a case right (I got to know after I bought the device).
So you're getting the 6P as a replacement to your Note 5? I don't get why I see many people using the 6P after the Note 5. Is the 6P actually better?
Do let me know about your thoughts when you get your phone.
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Sometimes I go bare with it because I'm always "careful" lol. I plan on having a case for the 6P for sure. I'll probably go bare off and on once I get used to the device and become comfortable.
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Ritchiejoe said:
I've found that since a security patch update around February that my phones battery drops so much quicker. I used to be able to get 5 hours sot. I've seen a few people post on this issue and with it being a software issue I'm becoming extremely frustrated with android. I'm ashamed to say I'm considering selling the 6p and getting an Iphone
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No shame there. Seems like something is staying awake when it should be dozing. I'm assuming it's not rooted right?
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