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WiFi: Conected but VERY slow

I'm pretty happy with my new HTC Hero, but I'm having a lot of trouble with the WiFi connection. I connects fine and shows "good" or "excelent" signal strength on my home network. However the speed is very slow and if I go to Android Market it loads the different apps very slowly an looses connection often: It says "No connection" and I press the "Retry" button...). It is not just a problem i Android Marked. Loading pages in the browser, facebook etc. is extremely slow when on WiFi. When I'm using EDGE everything is A LOT faster and I don't get "A network error has occured. Retry or cancel...etc.".
I have tried different settings on my access point, but nothing seems to help. I have (tempoarily) disabled encryption, tried swiching channels, using B instead og G setting, and manually setting: Gateway, DNS etc... In the end it got a bit frustrating so I tried a factory reset. But WiFi is still very slow. If you have any suggestions to what the problem might be I would be very grateful.

I had a similar problem with my AP (D-Link DIR 655) and tried to set it to use the same communications setup as another AP that worked properly. Whatever I did with encryption, keys and channels made no difference on my AP. The solution on this AP was to set it to 802.11g only (it was b+g+n), and it has worked fine since.
I do however suspect that there may be some serious issues lurking in the linux kernel that is used on the hero (2.6.27). Wifi was a nightmare on that release with notebooks too, and core parts of the wifi-stack has been replaced since. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a significant improvement in wifi-performance whenever there's an Android release that include a 2.6.30 or later kernel.

I have been having the same issues but my wifi didnt work with the browser, or youtube. I downloaded Opera mini and wifi works fine. With factory browser i can go to google and it will load and search but once i click on links found it hangs and wont connect. I am so frustrated my sim is going back into my iphone 3gs until an update is released this sucks big time

It is a bit disappointing if this is a general issue, but I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one with this type of problem.
Maybe this could also be a HTC-issue? I remember my HTC Tytn II where there was a slider where you could choses between "performance" or "battery saving". I remember that I couldn't get the WiFi to run properly unless I set it to highest performance. I consumed more power but it worked with this setting.

On my Hero, the HSDPA connection is for some reason faster than my ADSL2+ (24Mbps) connection. Rather odd..

Same here. The 3G/EDGE is a lot faster than my 20 Mbit ADSL. It makes no sense

Why does it take so long to make a connection to my router via wifi?
This can sometimes take 10 - 15 minutes before I have a connection.
With my windows mobile device this takes only a few seconds.

I'm experiencing the same issue on my Hero (with updated HTC firmware). I've also tried playing around with my routers settings to no avail. My Hero is basically useless for browsing on WIFI.
I'm curious, does anyone running an alternative rom experience this? If not I may look into rooting my phone..

Root your phone and do this
echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_timestamps
It will fix it.
/b

briankwest said:
Root your phone and do this
echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_timestamps
It will fix it.
/b
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I have the same disconnection problems.
What is "Root your phone" and can this really fix our problem?
frem

frem said:
I have the same disconnection problems.
What is "Root your phone" and can this really fix our problem?
frem
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you've had 57 posts and dont know what rooting is;p aha (not trying to be a ****, just found that funny:])
when you root your phone you gain root access and can do just about anything, like install apps that need root access! there are guides in the dev section on how to, and if you do a search there is a thread on what root allows you to do!
i dont know if that command will fix your problem though, sorry!

xsirhc6x said:
you've had 57 posts and dont know what rooting is;p aha (not trying to be a ****, just found that funny:])
when you root your phone you gain root access and can do just about anything, like install apps that need root access! there are guides in the dev section on how to, and if you do a search there is a thread on what root allows you to do!
i dont know if that command will fix your problem though, sorry!
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I've been a "windows mobile" user for a long time.
I know what "root access" is in the general Unix environment.
But I don't really know how it works on the Android OS.
I'm more of a Windows guy.
It's my first time messing on Android, I got tired of Windows Mobile.
frem

Just my humble opinion. This is a problem that should be fixed by htc.
If rooting fixes it it's good, but it can't be a requirement to get it working properly.
I mean you buy a phone with wifi, you expect it to be as fast as your provider is... Getting less is just not getting what you paid for.
Has anyone mailed HTC about this problem? I hardly ever use wifi but tried it today
and indeed my hsdpa is lot's faster than my 20mbit connection @ home.

Help us pleaseeee

briankwest said:
Root your phone and do this
echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_timestamps
It will fix it.
/b
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That pretty much cut the speed in half for me.

Seriously the wifi issue is a big problem for me. I don't have a 3g unlimited plan.
Basically when i activate the wifi i start a application like update weather or check a webpage or update tweets, it works then connection drop and i can't connect to anything.
I have to deactivate wifi then reactivate to get like 40 seconds surfing and downloading apps on the market.
IS everyone having the same wifi problem ?
It happened on every access point not just the one at my place.
Please help me, is it my phone that has a hardware problem ?
frem

you gotta think of it this way...
most people who dont have problems arnt gunna make it to this thread because there not searching for it! So your mostly gunna get replys saying "same here"
so im guessing most people dont have this problem.. although it could be a specific rom on a specific carrier or something... see if you have anything in common with other people with this problem, if not, maybe it is hardware

WiFi channels
Have you tried changing the wifi channel in your router settings in case there is interferance with a nearby router on the same channel? Although you would experience slow wifi on any wifi device (laptops)..but worth checking.
I've just done a speedtest on my phone using the speedtest.net app and do get just over half the download speed on my phone (5-6mbps) opposed to my pc (wired 9-10mbps) and laptop (wireless 9-10mbps). So knowing my wireless is set up correctly, it does show some loss in speed with the hero. See how much of a loss you get?
Adam

Thank you for your reply. I think i figured it out. I am at the countryside right now and im connnected on a diferent acess point and it's working perfectly i'm actually writing this post in WiFi mode on the hero. So the problem is from the other access point i tested. i already tried changing the Channel number. I use a french provider that use access points called "freebox"

FYI the problem with the hero and some wifi access points is well known and is being forwarded to htc by Vodafone.
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=25004
Htc said that they are working on it..
frem

WiFi problem, dissconects all the time...

Hi!
Bought a Tattoo for my kid and now we got a huge bill because the wifi seems to dissconects itself all the time and she is not that good checking the wifi state.
Is this a known problem or what can i do about it?
Using a Netgear N router and WEP (must use WEP because of my stupid XBox that can't handle any other security).
Please let me know how to fix this so she can use the phone!

I have this problem too, and as I found it's a known problem on net.
I'm using wifi fixer, which running as a service and reconnect everytime the connection drops. It's not a solution, but make things better.
http://uk.androlib.com/android.application.org-wahtod-wififixer-qwn.aspx
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dancer_69 said:
I have this problem too, and as I found it's a known problem on net.
I'm using wifi fixer, which running as a service and reconnect everytime the connection drops. It's not a solution, but make things better.
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Hi!
Thanks for the info, is that an app i can find on the Android's app place?
he he he.... did not notice your link Sorry!
Looks to me that HTC is screwing things up even with Android devices...

This phone realy sucks!
Me again!
I've struggled with this phone a couple of hours now but i can't get the wifi to work now.
I press connect to my network, i have entered the wep password but a couple of secs later it says disconnected...
What can i do about this?

I have the same problem - Is it best to configure the Wi Fi settings like IP address etc ? And if so whats the best settings for it?

I've managed to get it to connect now, removed an app that kept track of wifi traffic. But it seems to me that Tattoo does not use wifi when i use YouTube for example. Checked my providers homepage for traffic that we pay for and they had traffic for today. And the phone has not been used all day until my test this evening.
Is there a way to tell the phone to use just the wifi connection when using youtube app or explorer...?

ToddeSwe said:
I've managed to get it to connect now, removed an app that kept track of wifi traffic. But it seems to me that Tattoo does not use wifi when i use YouTube for example. Checked my providers homepage for traffic that we pay for and they had traffic for today. And the phone has not been used all day until my test this evening.
Is there a way to tell the phone to use just the wifi connection when using youtube app or explorer...?
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install apn on-off when you use wifi, just disable APN connection.
then if you need umts/gprs is 1click enabled

francians said:
install apn on-off when you use wifi, just disable APN connection.
then if you need umts/gprs is 1click enabled
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Thanks, this sounds easy enough for my kid to handle when she wants to use the wifi and to be sure that it uses the wifi and not the expensive data from our phone company.
Thanks again! Will try this!

Tmobile Blocking tethering - im rooted on cm7

Well yesterday I was tethering like i've done every day on my device and I kept getting redirected to a tmobile webpage telling me to pay an extra $15 per month for tethering.
My T989 Sgsii is using CM7 and there is no tmobile tethering software on the device. Is anyone else able to tether? Im on a prepaid contract have have tethered every day for free since last december.
Im guessing tmobile is blocking my tethering on the network end, since all blocking/tethering management software has been removed from my phone.
Any advice? If i cant tether, i cant use up all 5 gigs i pay for, so ill probably get a cheaper plan or switch to straight talk.

Seems like we have the same problem?
I made a post on the Nexus One forum aswell.

zeus_chingon said:
Seems like we have the same problem?
I made a post on the Nexus One forum aswell.
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Yup. Looks like we both have the same problem.
Tmobile must be somehow able to detect when my computer tries to hop on their network and blocks it.
Can anyone else who uses tmobile comment on this?

They're mainly catching you by looking at the headers of your http traffic, and assuming that http requests with desktop browser strings are coming from tethered PCs. If you change them to spoof Android's browser, T-mo can't tell the difference.
They could probe more deeply if they wanted to, but as a practical matter, they don't. If they blindly dip the net into the stream and just look for http traffic with desktop-browser identities, they can effortlessly catch 99% of the people who tether.
If you really want to hide your tethering from them, just subscribe to a PPTP VPN service like ibvpn.com. It's around $5/month (~$37 if you pay for the whole year up front), it'll TOTALLY hide what you're doing from T-Mobile (because all they'll see is an encrypted bitstream), and also comes in handy for using a wi-fi tablet with public access points (the reason *I* subscribe).
Just be careful to make sure your network connection doesn't drop while you're tethered, because there doesn't seem to be any way to tell Android, "Establish this VPN whenever there's connectivity, and DO NOT send ANY data via ANY means besides the VPN". If your connection drops, the VPN will break, and if the phone reconnects to T-Mo a half second later, it'll just silently send all network traffic going forward straight through T-Mobile until you reconnect to the VPN.

bitbang3r said:
They're mainly catching you by looking at the headers of your http traffic, and assuming that http requests with desktop browser strings are coming from tethered PCs. If you change them to spoof Android's browser, T-mo can't tell the difference.
They could probe more deeply if they wanted to, but as a practical matter, they don't. If they blindly dip the net into the stream and just look for http traffic with desktop-browser identities, they can effortlessly catch 99% of the people who tether.
If you really want to hide your tethering from them, just subscribe to a PPTP VPN service like ibvpn.com. It's around $5/month (~$37 if you pay for the whole year up front), it'll TOTALLY hide what you're doing from T-Mobile (because all they'll see is an encrypted bitstream), and also comes in handy for using a wi-fi tablet with public access points (the reason *I* subscribe).
Just be careful to make sure your network connection doesn't drop while you're tethered, because there doesn't seem to be any way to tell Android, "Establish this VPN whenever there's connectivity, and DO NOT send ANY data via ANY means besides the VPN". If your connection drops, the VPN will break, and if the phone reconnects to T-Mo a half second later, it'll just silently send all network traffic going forward straight through T-Mobile until you reconnect to the VPN.
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best advice ive received so far - i was wondering how they were able to tell i was tethering. so i guess ill just need a browser that supports changing of the user agent? or is it more complicated to browser spoof?

I got the same message two days ago with a prepaid account on a CM9 exhibit ii
I'm not sure just changing the ua would help though because I'm getting the redirect on my android tablet as well, not just my laptop

The headers also give them an idea if more than one unit is being serviced, ie: hotspot. Encryption hides this as well. Bottom line? They will see tethering if they look for it.
Sent from my SCH-I510 using XDA

I just use Opera. It hasn't failed me yet.

I believe the tether detection works by looking at the TTL for packets. It would be more than it should be if the client is using the device as a gateway. Thing is HTTPS still works once you've been "blocked" as well a bunch of other protocols, so it looks like they are just setting a captive portal for port 80 traffic. That said, I have a Zentyal VPN set up at home on my 50mb/s line, so once tethered I VPN into my home machine which then resets my gateway on my laptop to be the gateway on the VPN machine at home. This redirects ALL traffic through the VPN effectively side stepping t-mobiles blocking altogether. So as long as they still allow any data connections over my data plan while tethering than I can access everything like normal. One positive side effect is that general browsing seems to be MUCH faster given that the traffic is really actually being downloaded from my home connection and being siphoned through the VPN rather than having the phone itself and t-mobiles crappy gateway doing all the work.
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Not to mention, everything is encrypted so t-mobile cant track any of my surfing habits either. I dont know about you all, but I tend to trust my ISP a little more than my wireless carrier.

So the issue has been solved.
I can tether on tmobiles network with no issues as long as i DONT use google chrome. Safari and Firefox access webpages no problem. Chrome has a user agent string which tmobile is able to see - and block by default on their network.

I'm on Tmobile w/ my Droid 3, stock OS. I tether once in a while, only use Chrome for browsing, and I've never gotten redirected.
--posted from my phone
EDIT: found another thread here with more posts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26477722

5318008 said:
I'm on Tmobile w/ my Droid 3, stock OS. I tether once in a while, only use Chrome for browsing, and I've never gotten redirected.
--posted from my phone
EDIT: found another thread here with more posts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26477722
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I was using chrome all day today. First half of the day it was fine (and every other time before this but I've only had them for less than a month), but then after I started pushing maybe a gig through netflix in addition to using chrome THEN chrome stopped working. Had to use a user agent extension to get chrome working again.
So it might be a trigger set off by data usage to THEN check for the user agent

colonelcack said:
I was using chrome all day today. First half of the day it was fine (and every other time before this but I've only had them for less than a month), but then after I started pushing maybe a gig through netflix in addition to using chrome THEN chrome stopped working. Had to use a user agent extension to get chrome working again.
So it might be a trigger set off by data usage to THEN check for the user agent
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Makes sense. TMobile doesn't appear to have refarmed Portland yet, so when I do tether, I don't end up using that much data, what with being stuck on 2G and all.

Please look at my post regarding T-mobile tethering
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26649587#post26649587

The methods employed by t-mobile to detect tethering are quite frivolous and an asinine move on their part. Their detection does not even work properly.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk 2

fix for Tmobile blocking tethering with usb cable
To fix your issue just change your user agent in IE or Firefox. If you dont know how to do that just google change Useragent for IE or firefox.
Hopes this helps.
jordanishere said:
Well yesterday I was tethering like i've done every day on my device and I kept getting redirected to a tmobile webpage telling me to pay an extra $15 per month for tethering.
My T989 Sgsii is using CM7 and there is no tmobile tethering software on the device. Is anyone else able to tether? Im on a prepaid contract have have tethered every day for free since last december.
Im guessing tmobile is blocking my tethering on the network end, since all blocking/tethering management software has been removed from my phone.
Any advice? If i cant tether, i cant use up all 5 gigs i pay for, so ill probably get a cheaper plan or switch to straight talk.
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Firefox doesn't work either...
jordanishere said:
So the issue has been solved.
I can tether on tmobiles network with no issues as long as i DONT use google chrome. Safari and Firefox access webpages no problem. Chrome has a user agent string which tmobile is able to see - and block by default on their network.
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I'm going to try Safari, but they pounced on me when using Firefox.... :crying:

Tmobile unofficial tethering

So I think I got free tethering to work on my MG with tmobile $30 prepaid plan by changing the APN, but not 100% sure if I got the process down correctly since I've been tinkering, rooted and still on 4.3.
Anyways, maybe you guys can give a try and see if it works. This is aimed towards t-mobile users who don't have hotspot as part of their plan or have already exhausted their monthy tethering limit.
steps:
- go to settings > More....> mobile networks > Access Point names
- add a new APN by hitting the "+" sign
- Set "Name" to what ever you'd like (e.g. Hotspot4life)
- Set "APN" to fast.t-mobile.com
- Set "APN protocol" to IPv4/IPv6 or IPv4
- Leave everything else untouched
- hit menu button then select save
- Select the APN just created.
- Active native tethering (assuming you've adjusted ID and password already to your liking)
- If it works, go back into settings and select old APN... and check if tethering has been blocked.
Note: there's no need to reboot when switching APNs.
If it doesn't work, then a file change I did beforehand while rooted made a difference or something else was a factor.

neugenusis said:
So I think I got free tethering to work on my MG with tmobile $30 prepaid plan by changing the APN, but not 100% sure if I got the process down correctly since I've been tinkering, rooted and still on 4.3.
Anyways, maybe you guys can give a try and see if it works. This is aimed towards t-mobile users who don't have hotspot as part of their plan or have already exhausted their monthy tethering limit.
steps:
- go to settings > More....> mobile networks > Access Point names
- add a new APN by hitting the "+" sign
- Set "Name" to what ever you'd like (e.g. Hotspot4life)
- Set "APN" to fast.t-tmobile.com
- Set "APN protocol" to IPv4/IPv6 or IPv4
- Leave everything else untouched
- hit menu button then select save
- Select the APN just created.
- Active native tethering (assuming you've adjusted ID and password already to your liking)
- If it works, go back into settings and select old APN... and check if tethering has been blocked.
Note: there's no need to reboot when switching APNs.
If it doesn't work, then a file change I did beforehand while rooted made a difference or something else was a factor.
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t mobile and Three use Packet Sniffing to check the file headers to detect tethering. If you tether an iOS device or an OSX device to your phone, often they will not get flagged and the tethering will work. If you use a Windows PC or other device it will be detected immediately. I mention this, as it could be a factor if you tried tethering with an ipad or something and got it to work. Messing with the APN on Three has no effect, so I'd be surprised if it works with T Mobile.

Thanks for the tip! I found that this works, but unreliably on my Moto G.
I just got a MG last week and was frustrated to find tethering would not work at all out of the box. I stumbled across your post and made the changes you recommended and it worked very well at first - for maybe15 minutes or so. Then I noticed my Chromebook lost connection and upon further diagnosis it was the Moto G that lost connection to the T-Mobile network. I tried to turn of tethering, but that didn't help and I finally had to reboot the phone to get it back on the network. I switched back to the default APN and the phone worked reliably again, but obviously not tethering. In the past couple days I've tried the new APN with your settings a few times and get similar results - it works for a while, but then the phone loses cell connectivity. I've since found that I toggling Airplane Mode on and off will restart the cell connection and tethering will also start working again, so it kind of works but not as well as it should.
I've been doing more searching regarding the fast.t-mobile.com APN and other threads seem to indicate that APN is specifically for LTE phones. Since the Moto G doesn't have an LTE chip, I wonder if that's causing the reliability problem?
Brandon
PS - I think there might be a typo in your instructions and fast.t-tmobile.com should be fast.t-mobile.com - with just 1 t in the t-mobile. Thanks again!

theragtopman said:
PS - I think there might be a typo in your instructions and fast.t-tmobile.com should be fast.t-mobile.com - with just 1 t in the t-mobile. Thanks again!
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You're right. I've fixed it. Thanks.
I rarely tether, so I haven't used it in every scenario. But when I do tether, its while tethering to my tablet, my friend's phone, or desktop/laptop WITH user agent switcher on Chrome to mask the desktop/laptop as a mobile device. After reading your post, I tethered to my laptop for an hour and did not encounter any issues. Do you lose connectivity even when the phone's signal strength is strong? Have you tried tethering to a different device (mobile)?

Thanks for the follow up. I've been trying it again today from my home where I get better cellular signal strength, but I'm getting similar results. It connects up and runs for 15-30 minutes and then starts flaking out. After rebooting both the phone and Chromebook, the Chromebook kept trying to go to a T-Mobile sign-in page, but couldn't even load that. And I too am using a Chrome extension to change the user agent to Android. The Moto G seems to be working fine and not losing it's connection this time.
I have also been able to test tethering on a Nexus 4 running Android 4.4.2 today and the Chromebook is connecting just fine and staying connected - no problems at all. I compared the APN settings between the 2 phones and the Nexus has the MMSC entry filled out (which xda won't allow me to post here because i'm too new), so I added that into the Moto G, but it did not help. Darn. I really like the Moto G, but really need reliable tethering. Thanks again...

theragtopman said:
Thanks for the follow up. I've been trying it again today from my home where I get better cellular signal strength, but I'm getting similar results. It connects up and runs for 15-30 minutes and then starts flaking out. After rebooting both the phone and Chromebook, the Chromebook kept trying to go to a T-Mobile sign-in page, but couldn't even load that. And I too am using a Chrome extension to change the user agent to Android. The Moto G seems to be working fine and not losing it's connection this time.
I have also been able to test tethering on a Nexus 4 running Android 4.4.2 today and the Chromebook is connecting just fine and staying connected - no problems at all. I compared the APN settings between the 2 phones and the Nexus has the MMSC entry filled out (which xda won't allow me to post here because i'm too new), so I added that into the Moto G, but it did not help. Darn. I really like the Moto G, but really need reliable tethering. Thanks again...
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You need install a User Agent String changer addon in your browser and change the string.
I use this one: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/...r-c/djflhoibgkdhkhhcedjiklpkjnoahfmg?hl=en-US
I have instructions for another device here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2201062
Good luck.

Thanks for the recommendation! Sorry I didn't make it more clear in my reply above, but I am using a user agent switcher - currently the Ultimate User Agent Switcher. Just to be sure, I disabled that extension and installed the User-Agent Switcher for Chrome that you linked to, but unfortunately I'm getting the same result - the Chromebook takes forever and keeps trying to connect to the "Welcome to T-Mobile" page.
And I tried again with the Nexus 4 and the Chromebook connects up immediately and runs great - no T-Mobile page or any other problems. I did a little more research and found a post on the Nexus 4 forum recommending disabling IPV6 in the APN Protocol, so I switched both phones from IPV6/IPV4 to just IPV4 and am getting the same result on each. Both phones work fine on the cell network and Internet, but the Chromebook only tethers successfully to the Nexus 4.

theragtopman said:
Thanks for the recommendation! Sorry I didn't make it more clear in my reply above, but I am using a user agent switcher - currently the Ultimate User Agent Switcher. Just to be sure, I disabled that extension and installed the User-Agent Switcher for Chrome that you linked to, but unfortunately I'm getting the same result - the Chromebook takes forever and keeps trying to connect to the "Welcome to T-Mobile" page.
And I tried again with the Nexus 4 and the Chromebook connects up immediately and runs great - no T-Mobile page or any other problems. I did a little more research and found a post on the Nexus 4 forum recommending disabling IPV6 in the APN Protocol, so I switched both phones from IPV6/IPV4 to just IPV4 and am getting the same result on each. Both phones work fine on the cell network and Internet, but the Chromebook only tethers successfully to the Nexus 4.
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You need to set the Firefox string in my thread. That is the only desktop browser string that works. The reason why Chromebook/Ipad/Ipod devices work is because T-Mobile allows those devices since they can all have Cellular radios in them for radio. It would block legit paying customers.

Hey - thanks for the quick follow up!
Unfortunately, I just tried all 3 of the Firefox settings in the user agent switcher and rebooted the Chromebook each time, but no joy - each time after restarting and connecting to the Moto G wi-fi hotspot the Chromebook just tries to redirect me to the T-Mobile site.

theragtopman said:
Hey - thanks for the quick follow up!
Unfortunately, I just tried all 3 of the Firefox settings in the user agent switcher and rebooted the Chromebook each time, but no joy - each time after restarting and connecting to the Moto G wi-fi hotspot the Chromebook just tries to redirect me to the T-Mobile site.
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Do you have the T-Mobile branded Moto G? If so you may need to disable the upsell app as I did in my L9 thread. You may also need to edit /etc/apns-conf.xml
Also, use this app instead of the builtin tethering. It may be notifying the carrier of tethering.
https://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/

Thanks again for more suggestions.
I am using an unlocked US GSM model of Moto G I purchased from Amazon.
I have not rooted yet, but may try that and the tethering app you linked to. I'm wondering if the stock app included on the Motorola device is the culprit, whereas the stock tethering app on the Nexus device may not be reporting back...

Bypass Verizon throttling after reaching 15GB hotspot limit [Root/VPN Required]

Hello everyone, this is for customers on the ULD plan with 15GB of hotspot. I tried a lot of different methods and I would like to share a method that is working for the Pixel 2 xl on Android 8.0.0! I want to give credit to @hydrofarmer for posting the method in a different forum. This method is a little different as I could not get FoxFi Wi-Fi hotspot to work on my phone, possibly due to Oreo.
Requirements:
1. Root Phone
2. Edit build.prop; place net.tethering.noprovisioning=true at the bottom
3. Install VPN Tether from play store.
Bypass Method:
1. Start VPN. (I use IPVanish)
2. Start Wi-Fi hotspot
3. Open VPN Tether (Grant root access and start)
4. Connect device to Phone
You will not get throttled using WiFi hotspot anymore. I hope this is useful to others. It helped me out so much, my Wi-Fi hotspot was useless at the speeds Verizon throttled me to. Again thank you @hydrofarmer!

agtsoul said:
Hello everyone, this is for customers on the ULD plan with 15GB of hotspot. I tried a lot of different methods and I would like to share a method that is working for the Pixel 2 xl on Android 8.0.0! I want to give credit to @hydrofarmer for posting the method in a different forum. This method is a little different as I could not get FoxFi Wi-Fi hotspot to work on my phone, possibly due to Oreo.
Requirements:
1. Root Phone
2. Edit build.prop; place net.tethering.noprovisioning=true at the bottom
3. Install VPN Tether from play store.
Bypass Method:
1. Start VPN. (I use IPVanish)
2. Start Wi-Fi hotspot
3. Open VPN Tether (Grant root access and start)
4. Connect device to Phone
You will not get throttled using WiFi hotspot anymore. I hope this is useful to others. It helped me out so much, my Wi-Fi hotspot was useless at the speeds Verizon throttled me to. Again thank you @hydrofarmer!
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Hell yeah buddy!
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Just what I was looking for! Thanks!

Does this method really work? Trying it but seems like usage is still tallied up on hotspot use when reviewing account...or you can still use unthrottled speed somehow even after 15gig using this method?

This method technically works. It bypasses Verizon seeing your phone using data as a hotspot, so you are in term using part of your 22GB then de-prioritization instead

sensui123 said:
Does this method really work? Trying it but seems like usage is still tallied up on hotspot use when reviewing account...or you can still use unthrottled speed somehow even after 15gig using this method?
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Yes it works. I used 48GBs last month.

bigblueshock said:
This method technically works. It bypasses Verizon seeing your phone using data as a hotspot, so you are in term using part of your 22GB then de-prioritization instead
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I haven't experienced any slow downs at 22GB or beyond. That could be because of the area I live in though.

agtsoul said:
Yes it works. I used 48GBs last month.
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Could you check to see from your Verizon account to see if the counter for hotspot use is going up? Because I'm using this exact method (double/triple checked everything in build.prop, confirmed the devices tethering are sharing the VPN tunnel by running a location trace etc) and I see the hotspot usage still go up accordingly....or does this method somehow bypass the actual throttling even if the hotspot use is over 15 gig?

sensui123 said:
Could you check to see from your Verizon account to see if the counter for hotspot use is going up? Because I'm using this exact method (double/triple checked everything in build.prop, confirmed the devices tethering are sharing the VPN tunnel by running a location trace etc) and I see the hotspot usage still go up accordingly....or does this method somehow bypass the actual throttling even if the hotspot use is over 15 gig?
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The hotspot data shouldn't be going up. Just your regular data counter.
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hydrofarmer said:
The hotspot data shouldn't be going up. Just your regular data counter.
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That's exactly what I thought should happen....but it's not actually working. I'm not exactly sure why.

sensui123 said:
Could you check to see from your Verizon account to see if the counter for hotspot use is going up? Because I'm using this exact method (double/triple checked everything in build.prop, confirmed the devices tethering are sharing the VPN tunnel by running a location trace etc) and I see the hotspot usage still go up accordingly....or does this method somehow bypass the actual throttling even if the hotspot use is over 15 gig?
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I was already at the 15 GB when I started looking for a method. I haven't used it since rest this month. I am at work right now. I will check the counter when I get home tonight to see if it goes up.

sensui123 said:
That's exactly what I thought should happen....but it's not actually working. I'm not exactly sure why.
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I don't even think you need to edit the prop. I think it should just work with a VPN and th VPN tether app. That's all I use on a note 4.
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hydrofarmer said:
I don't even think you need to edit the prop. I think it should just work with a VPN and th VPN tether app. That's all I use on a note 4.
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To be clear on this from my first post about all of this*** at first I did some extra steps as listed above. But after factory resetting my phone and starting from scratch it worked with the native hotspot app. Then I just turned on my VPN and then activated VPN tether and it works for me.
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sensui123 said:
Could you check to see from your Verizon account to see if the counter for hotspot use is going up? Because I'm using this exact method (double/triple checked everything in build.prop, confirmed the devices tethering are sharing the VPN tunnel by running a location trace etc) and I see the hotspot usage still go up accordingly....or does this method somehow bypass the actual throttling even if the hotspot use is over 15 gig?
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Sorry took so long to get back to you. All data is being registered as regular data. Tested it and it shows I have used 0 hotspot data. I downloaded like 4GB and it all registered as regular phone usage.

Which VPN tether app did you use from the Play Store? There are a lot of them.

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Which VPN tether app did you use from the Play Store? There are a lot of them.
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The one called VPN tether....works just start/stop icon a bit counter intuitive.
I'm still testing but something weird is happening...seems like this technique works with a computer but hit and miss connecting other Android devices. Will report back after more testing.

I just noticed that the new Verizon Data Usage page does not show the mobile hotspot data usage for the current month.... Anyone else can confirm? https://imgur.com/a/4ujKm

rester555 said:
I just noticed that the new Verizon Data Usage page does not show the mobile hotspot data usage for the current month.... Anyone else can confirm? https://imgur.com/a/4ujKm
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Yes it does. Just have to go into the details. It's updated fairly quickly and I have had no troubles whatsoever with other devices such as other phones, tablets, security cameras, Xbox etc.
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hydrofarmer said:
Yes it does. Just have to go into the details. It's updated fairly quickly and I have had no troubles whatsoever with other devices such as other phones, tablets, security cameras, Xbox etc.
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*It will not show a number for tether data unless some data has been used used* otherwise it will just be total data per line which means you are doing something right for bypass lol
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Has anyone tried this method and been successful on Oreo 8.1? I flashed the factory image of 8.1 and setup my phone the way i had it working before. I tried to wifi tether, but when i try to go to a website other than google i get a DNS error. I don't get that error with VPN tether app off. Any thoughts?

Found a fix for the issue I was running into. In settings/System/Developer options make sure Tethering hardware accelerations is turned off. For VPN settings I use port 443 and OpenVPN (UDP). Data does not count towards hotspot anymore. Everything is now working great!