Battery drain after Google Play installation - Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
I installed Google Play on my HDX (without rooting, since I can't yet) and noticed right away that the battery drains much faster. I had also installed an alternate launcher and the device seemed slow, so I factory reset the HDX and installed just Google Play again. Again the battery is drain is noticeably faster. Has anyone else experienced this and is there a way to mitigate it?
Thank you.

I have not experienced that but I have an hd10. Not an hdx

This is not the right fourm section for the HDX, however I do not see why your battery would drain after installing the Play Store.
Check your running services and processes, and go ahead and post your CPU/RAM usage, maybe Google Play Services is draining your battery.

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[Q] Bad Battery?

Is there a way I can officially know if I have a bad battery on my LGG2? When I had purchased the phone, I never really took interest in it because of it's battery life, but after hearing that it has a great battery life I thought mine was lacking. I hear people having it go for two days without a charge. Yet mine was being charged once a day or more at least. I had batterydoctor installed, and when I had it, it would say I got about 22 hours or so normally. Then 17 or so.
I took the phone to the AT&T service center to get a replacement as I felt as if the battery was bad. Yet after getting the new one, I feel as if I'm having the same problem or even worse.
I'm still getting below 20 hours, and the battery seems to die faster than expected. I do not do a lot on my phone as it is. I had previously only had BatteryDoctor control the CPU, but I purchased SetCPU to get a bit better control on my CPU. I read push notifications was more efficient than 15 minute intervals, so I set those on my email apps. I don't have a lot of widgets, or even more than two. My screen brightness is usually below half.
Am I just plagued with a bad battery, or am I doing somethings wrong here? Anymore I can do?
Along the lines of this, is there a list of what bloatware apps I can uninstall from the LGG2? I had uninstalled a lot, but I'm not really sure what is still safe or unsafe to uninstall.
The built in battery manager as of now expects my battery to last around 6-8 hours, while battery doctor says 15 hours.
You can't uninstall anything that your system needs unless you're rooted and using an application manager to uninstall, such as Titanium Backup. If you're removing apps from the stock app page, you'll be fine to remove anything that is removable.
I'm sure your battery is fine, but you didn't give us any hard proof of what's going on. Go into your Settings and check the Battery section after the phone is down to about 50% or so. My guess is, that Google Services will be the main battery culprit, with Screen somewhere behind it.
If Google Services is what's chewing through your battery, you're not alone. The easiest way to fix the issue right now is to disable Google's Location Services.
If that's not what's causing your problem, please report back here with more info and we'll try to get you sorted out.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
Vepaot said:
You can't uninstall anything that your system needs unless you're rooted and using an application manager to uninstall, such as Titanium Backup. If you're removing apps from the stock app page, you'll be fine to remove anything that is removable.
I'm sure your battery is fine, but you didn't give us any hard proof of what's going on. Go into your Settings and check the Battery section after the phone is down to about 50% or so. My guess is, that Google Services will be the main battery culprit, with Screen somewhere behind it.
If Google Services is what's chewing through your battery, you're not alone. The easiest way to fix the issue right now is to disable Google's Location Services.
If that's not what's causing your problem, please report back here with more info and we'll try to get you sorted out.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
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I am aware I can't uninstall anything my system needs, but I am not aware of what my system needs and does not need. I know of the obvious bloatware applications, so I uninstalled those. As for other things, I am not sure of. I would like to get rid of any unneeded apps that I will not use or have no use for as much as possible. And my device is rooted. And I do use Titanium Backup.
Sorry about that, I'm not good at explaining things most of the time. I'm not really sure as of what proof is needed. Though I have checked before. Google Services seems to come up often. Android System is the second I usually see as well. Screen usually comes into third or lower. I will disable the Location Services and see how things work out.
Thanks for the help so far. If there is any other info that is needed, I will try my best to provide such things.
As far as debloating goes, I recommend installing a modified stock ROM, such as Malladus. That way you don't have to compile a list of things that can or can't be removed.
If my previous fix doesn't work, try downloading an app such as Better Battery Stats ($2.89) or Wakelock Detector (free). They will tell what's keeping your phone awake.
And then you can use an app like Greenify to prevent specific pesky apps from waking your phone and causing massive battery drain. You can use Greenify to stop Google apps as well, but it will prevent notifications from all of their apps. For example, instead of disabling Location Services on my phone, I prevented Google Maps and Google Play Services from causing wakelocks. Which worked great to keep my battery running, but it also prevented Google Voice from notifying me of new text messages and the Play Store wouldn't do automatic updates. Still, if you can live without these features, that might be another option for you until Google gets their stuff fixed.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
Vepaot said:
As far as debloating goes, I recommend installing a modified stock ROM, such as Malladus. That way you don't have to compile a list of things that can or can't be removed.
If my previous fix doesn't work, try downloading an app such as Better Battery Stats ($2.89) or Wakelock Detector (free). They will tell what's keeping your phone awake.
And then you can use an app like Greenify to prevent specific pesky apps from waking your phone and causing massive battery drain. You can use Greenify to stop Google apps as well, but it will prevent notifications from all of their apps. For example, instead of disabling Location Services on my phone, I prevented Google Maps and Google Play Services from causing wakelocks. Which worked great to keep my battery running, but it also prevented Google Voice from notifying me of new text messages and the Play Store wouldn't do automatic updates. Still, if you can live without these features, that might be another option for you until Google gets their stuff fixed.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
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I will give it some thought on using either a modified or custom ROM. I have not yet tried that with any phone I have had before because I'm afraid that normal phone functions might not work. That and I did not have too much experience in messing with ROMs, but I have now done so on my tablets. Though I might still look for a list just in case.
I will look into these two apps to see how they might work and if they will be any benefit. I have heard of a couple other apps to try and extend the battery life as well.
I might look into Greenify as well. It sounds like it could have its use, but I'm not sure I would really use it as such. I did enjoy using Google Now, but I used it mostly for the weather. I can get any other random weather app and probably be just as fine. I don't think I ever used Location Services for anything else other than Google Now or Maps. Which if I need to use the GPS, I can turn it on once again.
Is using such apps like SetCPU a good idea? Or does that make things worse?

Google Play Service battery drain cause?

I tried searching Google for battery drain related to Play Services. Up until my phone had official KitKat, even with CM11, the battery drain from play services was never this horrendous (about 36% battery usage).
The only thing I could find besides version 4.4 was the "fix" for battery drain related to location was that some Sony devices, upon upgrading to KitKat, suffered similar problems with battery.
I've come to the conclusion the RAZR HD/MAXX HD suffer from the same issue.
Downloading BetterBatteryStats I found when GPS was the only way of doing location services, the battery drain is ~1% an hour. When I had high accuracy or battery savings mode, the drain was ~3.5% an hour. This is the EXACT issue that the Xperia devices are suffering from.
So, for all those on KitKat who are experiencing battery drain, try switching to Device Only. This will utilize only GPS satellites to determine location. You will lose location based stuff in Google Now, suck as traffic or weather but your battery will last much longer.
I looked through and didn't see anything about this in any other thread, so I decided to make a new one. Hopefully Google updates Play Services to be a bit more friendly with LTE and WiFi location settings soon (I'm looking at you, I/O).
Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD using XDA Free mobile app
Another potential way around this is possibly using the Greenify app, if you're rooted. You'll also have to donate ($2.99 USD) but it's well worth it if you ask me. I actually used my Amazon Coins to donate that way.
With a donated version, you can hibernate system apps, but you have to be careful because hibernating certain system apps could cause other apps to no longer work (which is easy to fix - just unhibernate them). But, this is different from freezing apps. Freezing an app means you've disabled it. What Greenify does is prevent the phone from starting up apps when the screen is off (wake lock). But, you can launch the app yourself and it will fire up (albeit maybe a little slower since it wasn't pre-loaded) and then when the screen goes back off, Greenify will hibernate the apps again.
This is another way to stop apps from firing up when you're not using your phone. I've noticed Google Play services going nuts one time. A reboot cured it, but I wasn't sure what apps would have been using it. I've since Greenified some regular apps and I haven't seen it happen again.
But, Greenify is definitely something to look at. The non-donation version only allows you to greenify non-system apps, but even for those, it works really well.
You can get it at Google Play or at Amazon App store.
I haven't got issues with battery drain at the moment but I bookmarked this link of reddit and maybe it help you.
Sorry for the English
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1zxri4/google_play_services_battery_drain_the_real/
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I believe I read that thread, too. It is helpful to understand that Google Now is really what's killing the battery. I've noticed that the battery life is one again incredible on my phone after changing to device only. This allows me to still use navigation if necessary and also allows my weather extension in DashClock to work because the one I installed allows the phone to read GPS location instead of relying on my network location. So for now while I lose traffic updates and weather updates through the Google search app, it's not SO bad. I seriously hope they modify the number of times that Google pings for your location or figure out how to cause less drain on the battery, because I find the location stuff incredibly useful at times.
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Looking through the time line today saw this thread and remembered this app. Hopefully its helpfull

[Q] G2 VZW 442 stock rom terrible battery life for past month or so

Hey guys, I've had my VZW G2 since Feb and could not imagine being any happier with a phone. It's been completely perfect up until about a month ago.
I've been running official KK 442 since close to release. I tether a Pebble Steel daily. Phone is rooted and xposed with G2 Tweaksbox, GravityBox (KK),XBlast, and XuiMod as the main xposed mods installed.
Apps commonly used:
Facebook
FB Messenger
Poweramp
Chrome
Opera
Spotify
BleacherReport
Yahoo Fantasy
Light Flow
Sync (bit torrent Sync- just started using it well after battery issues started)
Pocket Casts
Mint
Pebble app (always latest from Play Store)
Various pebble apps like MusicBoss and PebbleLocker
Running this set up, i used to EASILY get at least 30+ hours battery life, with most days above 40+. That's being tethered to my watch for 9 hours. I didnt even have a charger at work because id be at 75% by the end of the day and would get an entire second work day out of the same charge.
Then one day I woke up and havent been able to get better than 25, with many days barely making 12-18. My battery life has been effectively halved and I can't figure out why. I'm constantly playing with settings or installing new apps, so I reverted any and all possible changes I'd made and froze all recently installed/new apps. When this didn't fix the problem, I started uninstalling and freezing apps that had been updated recently in the Play Store. When that didn't work, i took more drastic measures:
Things I've done:
FDR device, including wiping all data in TWRP and turning off google's app data sync to ensure fresh settings/config files
Uninstalled or used TitaniumBackup to freeze 40+ apps, including all non-necessary apps often considered to be battery hogs (fb+messenger, for example)
Froze Xposed and disabled all mods to run almost completely stock ROM with largely default settings
Monitored GSAM, BetterBatteryStats, Wakelock Detector, and CPU Spy for rogue/borked apps
Skipped wearing Pebble for a day to test
Updated and downgraded Google Play Services (various versions from as old as this past spring to the latest version released last week)
Prayed to Joe Pesci
Has anyone heard or seen ANYTHING that could be causing massive battery life losses but that doesn't show up as an app with massive wakelocks? Google Play Services has tons of wakelocks, but it always has. It's a known battery hog, but additional WLs and battery consumption are now expected with Google consolidating more and more services into it, so I'm not sure what to expect now. I dont use Hangouts but keep it installed and frozen 99.9999% of the time.
Not sure what else to do at this point.
still having major battery life issues. I've fdr twice and ran stock with minimal apps for a day with very little change.
guess my battery is bad. ugh.
is it worth replacing myself or should I try and get vzw or lg to replace it under standard warranty?
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Battery Drain On Amazon HD 8

Recently purchased the Amazon HD 8 and thanks to everyone that contributes to this board (whom I would sincerely like to thank for all their hard work) was able to root and install Google Playstore. I subsequently installed ROMtoolbox Pro. I froze most of the Amazon apps that were running based on the list from a previous post that outlined what they found was safe to hide, or in my case, freeze.
While everything seems to work well (occasional freezes and unresponsiveness that I can live with as I assume its looking for an app or something that has been disabled) but what I can't live with is the battery drain. Its ridiculous. I saw in a previous thread that someone seemed to think Kingroot was the source of the battery drain. I actually have uninstalled Kingroot but I assume that the changes that it made are still running somewhere to maintain the root status.
Has anyone else experienced severe battery drain?
Well, I went ahead and restored to factory default. I re-rooted, used SuperSume to remove the kingroot install and used "hide" command to remove Amazon bloatware instead of using app dependent "freeze. It seems to be doing ok now. I passed on the nova launcher for now just to see how it does.
I'm betting it was Kingroot causing the extreme battery drain. I was down to 50% from 100% in 15 minutes of light web browsing and reddit app before I did all this.

Battery consumption app difference (Google Play Services)

I have an issue with the battery consumption stats since I have the Mi 9T, with Google Play Services always on top of the list with MIUI battery stats. I've tried everything, disabling GPS, clear cache, factory reset, now I'm on EU rom and it's the same...
I've installed GSam and now the stats are completly different, much more coherent as you can see on the screenshots.
A friend has bought the phone too and he also have Google Play Services in top draining app (with global rom)!
Can someone explain this?
Thanks
I found there is apparrently a bug with last stable Google Play Services version 18.3.82.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-fix-the-android-bug-thats-draining-your-battery/
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/08/12/heads-up-the-latest-play-services-update-has-a-battery-drain-problem/
After updated to 18.7.17 beta, the consumption seems now back to normal
Allright, and how do i remove the one with the bug to install the older one ?

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