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[Q] Bad Battery?

Is there a way I can officially know if I have a bad battery on my LGG2? When I had purchased the phone, I never really took interest in it because of it's battery life, but after hearing that it has a great battery life I thought mine was lacking. I hear people having it go for two days without a charge. Yet mine was being charged once a day or more at least. I had batterydoctor installed, and when I had it, it would say I got about 22 hours or so normally. Then 17 or so.
I took the phone to the AT&T service center to get a replacement as I felt as if the battery was bad. Yet after getting the new one, I feel as if I'm having the same problem or even worse.
I'm still getting below 20 hours, and the battery seems to die faster than expected. I do not do a lot on my phone as it is. I had previously only had BatteryDoctor control the CPU, but I purchased SetCPU to get a bit better control on my CPU. I read push notifications was more efficient than 15 minute intervals, so I set those on my email apps. I don't have a lot of widgets, or even more than two. My screen brightness is usually below half.
Am I just plagued with a bad battery, or am I doing somethings wrong here? Anymore I can do?
Along the lines of this, is there a list of what bloatware apps I can uninstall from the LGG2? I had uninstalled a lot, but I'm not really sure what is still safe or unsafe to uninstall.
The built in battery manager as of now expects my battery to last around 6-8 hours, while battery doctor says 15 hours.

You can't uninstall anything that your system needs unless you're rooted and using an application manager to uninstall, such as Titanium Backup. If you're removing apps from the stock app page, you'll be fine to remove anything that is removable.
I'm sure your battery is fine, but you didn't give us any hard proof of what's going on. Go into your Settings and check the Battery section after the phone is down to about 50% or so. My guess is, that Google Services will be the main battery culprit, with Screen somewhere behind it.
If Google Services is what's chewing through your battery, you're not alone. The easiest way to fix the issue right now is to disable Google's Location Services.
If that's not what's causing your problem, please report back here with more info and we'll try to get you sorted out.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.

Vepaot said:
You can't uninstall anything that your system needs unless you're rooted and using an application manager to uninstall, such as Titanium Backup. If you're removing apps from the stock app page, you'll be fine to remove anything that is removable.
I'm sure your battery is fine, but you didn't give us any hard proof of what's going on. Go into your Settings and check the Battery section after the phone is down to about 50% or so. My guess is, that Google Services will be the main battery culprit, with Screen somewhere behind it.
If Google Services is what's chewing through your battery, you're not alone. The easiest way to fix the issue right now is to disable Google's Location Services.
If that's not what's causing your problem, please report back here with more info and we'll try to get you sorted out.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
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I am aware I can't uninstall anything my system needs, but I am not aware of what my system needs and does not need. I know of the obvious bloatware applications, so I uninstalled those. As for other things, I am not sure of. I would like to get rid of any unneeded apps that I will not use or have no use for as much as possible. And my device is rooted. And I do use Titanium Backup.
Sorry about that, I'm not good at explaining things most of the time. I'm not really sure as of what proof is needed. Though I have checked before. Google Services seems to come up often. Android System is the second I usually see as well. Screen usually comes into third or lower. I will disable the Location Services and see how things work out.
Thanks for the help so far. If there is any other info that is needed, I will try my best to provide such things.

As far as debloating goes, I recommend installing a modified stock ROM, such as Malladus. That way you don't have to compile a list of things that can or can't be removed.
If my previous fix doesn't work, try downloading an app such as Better Battery Stats ($2.89) or Wakelock Detector (free). They will tell what's keeping your phone awake.
And then you can use an app like Greenify to prevent specific pesky apps from waking your phone and causing massive battery drain. You can use Greenify to stop Google apps as well, but it will prevent notifications from all of their apps. For example, instead of disabling Location Services on my phone, I prevented Google Maps and Google Play Services from causing wakelocks. Which worked great to keep my battery running, but it also prevented Google Voice from notifying me of new text messages and the Play Store wouldn't do automatic updates. Still, if you can live without these features, that might be another option for you until Google gets their stuff fixed.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.

Vepaot said:
As far as debloating goes, I recommend installing a modified stock ROM, such as Malladus. That way you don't have to compile a list of things that can or can't be removed.
If my previous fix doesn't work, try downloading an app such as Better Battery Stats ($2.89) or Wakelock Detector (free). They will tell what's keeping your phone awake.
And then you can use an app like Greenify to prevent specific pesky apps from waking your phone and causing massive battery drain. You can use Greenify to stop Google apps as well, but it will prevent notifications from all of their apps. For example, instead of disabling Location Services on my phone, I prevented Google Maps and Google Play Services from causing wakelocks. Which worked great to keep my battery running, but it also prevented Google Voice from notifying me of new text messages and the Play Store wouldn't do automatic updates. Still, if you can live without these features, that might be another option for you until Google gets their stuff fixed.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
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I will give it some thought on using either a modified or custom ROM. I have not yet tried that with any phone I have had before because I'm afraid that normal phone functions might not work. That and I did not have too much experience in messing with ROMs, but I have now done so on my tablets. Though I might still look for a list just in case.
I will look into these two apps to see how they might work and if they will be any benefit. I have heard of a couple other apps to try and extend the battery life as well.
I might look into Greenify as well. It sounds like it could have its use, but I'm not sure I would really use it as such. I did enjoy using Google Now, but I used it mostly for the weather. I can get any other random weather app and probably be just as fine. I don't think I ever used Location Services for anything else other than Google Now or Maps. Which if I need to use the GPS, I can turn it on once again.
Is using such apps like SetCPU a good idea? Or does that make things worse?

Google Play Service battery drain cause?

I tried searching Google for battery drain related to Play Services. Up until my phone had official KitKat, even with CM11, the battery drain from play services was never this horrendous (about 36% battery usage).
The only thing I could find besides version 4.4 was the "fix" for battery drain related to location was that some Sony devices, upon upgrading to KitKat, suffered similar problems with battery.
I've come to the conclusion the RAZR HD/MAXX HD suffer from the same issue.
Downloading BetterBatteryStats I found when GPS was the only way of doing location services, the battery drain is ~1% an hour. When I had high accuracy or battery savings mode, the drain was ~3.5% an hour. This is the EXACT issue that the Xperia devices are suffering from.
So, for all those on KitKat who are experiencing battery drain, try switching to Device Only. This will utilize only GPS satellites to determine location. You will lose location based stuff in Google Now, suck as traffic or weather but your battery will last much longer.
I looked through and didn't see anything about this in any other thread, so I decided to make a new one. Hopefully Google updates Play Services to be a bit more friendly with LTE and WiFi location settings soon (I'm looking at you, I/O).
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Another potential way around this is possibly using the Greenify app, if you're rooted. You'll also have to donate ($2.99 USD) but it's well worth it if you ask me. I actually used my Amazon Coins to donate that way.
With a donated version, you can hibernate system apps, but you have to be careful because hibernating certain system apps could cause other apps to no longer work (which is easy to fix - just unhibernate them). But, this is different from freezing apps. Freezing an app means you've disabled it. What Greenify does is prevent the phone from starting up apps when the screen is off (wake lock). But, you can launch the app yourself and it will fire up (albeit maybe a little slower since it wasn't pre-loaded) and then when the screen goes back off, Greenify will hibernate the apps again.
This is another way to stop apps from firing up when you're not using your phone. I've noticed Google Play services going nuts one time. A reboot cured it, but I wasn't sure what apps would have been using it. I've since Greenified some regular apps and I haven't seen it happen again.
But, Greenify is definitely something to look at. The non-donation version only allows you to greenify non-system apps, but even for those, it works really well.
You can get it at Google Play or at Amazon App store.

I haven't got issues with battery drain at the moment but I bookmarked this link of reddit and maybe it help you.
Sorry for the English
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1zxri4/google_play_services_battery_drain_the_real/
Enviado desde mi RAZR HD mediante Tapatalk

I believe I read that thread, too. It is helpful to understand that Google Now is really what's killing the battery. I've noticed that the battery life is one again incredible on my phone after changing to device only. This allows me to still use navigation if necessary and also allows my weather extension in DashClock to work because the one I installed allows the phone to read GPS location instead of relying on my network location. So for now while I lose traffic updates and weather updates through the Google search app, it's not SO bad. I seriously hope they modify the number of times that Google pings for your location or figure out how to cause less drain on the battery, because I find the location stuff incredibly useful at times.
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Looking through the time line today saw this thread and remembered this app. Hopefully its helpfull

[Q] Android OS high battery use, no apparent wake locks

All of a sudden, my battery life went from awesome to crap like it does from time to time after something gets updated. At first the culprit was Google Play Services so I started hacking away services and receivers using 3C Toolbox which made the problem worse. So I backed up all my user apps that I use, wiped, and re-installed PA 6/20 build with the latest pico GApps. Google Play services had a good wakelock on the system so I disabled the SystemUpdateActiveReceiver and SystemUpdateSecretReceiver with AutoRunManager (SystemUpdateReceiver was already disabled). That solved the Google Play services wakelock but now I am left with Android OS crushing my battery, but no listed wake locks. CPU Spy reports a few seconds of deep sleep, if any. Here is some info from Battery and WLD. These were taken after I charged 100% before bed, and had most of my user apps frozen with Root App Delete, wifi, data, and location off.

jst07 said:
All of a sudden, my battery life went from awesome to crap like it does from time to time after something gets updated. At first the culprit was Google Play Services so I started hacking away services and receivers using 3C Toolbox which made the problem worse. So I backed up all my user apps that I use, wiped, and re-installed PA 6/20 build with the latest pico GApps. Google Play services had a good wakelock on the system so I disabled the SystemUpdateActiveReceiver and SystemUpdateSecretReceiver with AutoRunManager (SystemUpdateReceiver was already disabled). That solved the Google Play services wakelock but now I am left with Android OS crushing my battery, but no listed wake locks. CPU Spy reports a few seconds of deep sleep, if any. Here is some info from Battery and WLD. These were taken after I charged 100% before bed, and had most of my user apps frozen with Root App Delete, wifi, data, and location off.
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Just bought a G2 today, and have been using it for some hours but i have the same problem as you.. will have to look for a solution, or maybe try a return..

Ev0luti0n_ said:
Just bought a G2 today, and have been using it for some hours but i have the same problem as you.. will have to look for a solution, or maybe try a return..
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See or it's maybe related to google play services, click on it and see if there are maybe any related things. If you are going to return your phone for this reason then I don't get you cause this is just a awesome phone. Try to maybe do a factory reset if nothing works.

Ev0luti0n_ said:
Just bought a G2 today, and have been using it for some hours but i have the same problem as you.. will have to look for a solution, or maybe try a return..
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My phone still says it's awake all the time and Google play services is using the Lions share of my battery, however I am getting about 2 days out of my battery like I used to before this problem. It's annoying, but I don't think it's that bad. You can try disabling those 2 receivers with auto run manager like I did but if your battery is even worse after that I would just re-enable them and leave it.

wulsic said:
See or it's maybe related to google play services, click on it and see if there are maybe any related things. If you are going to return your phone for this reason then I don't get you cause this is just a awesome phone. Try to maybe do a factory reset if nothing works.
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The phone was bought off as the last one on the store. Worten, in Portugal. So it was a demo phone. I have no idea, for how long the phone was plugged in to the charger, being demo'ed. I am afraid the batttery has lost some of it's power. Nonetheless, i will use it for a few days and then return it for warranty if i don't think it's in prime condition...
Also, i had an HTC HD2 with custom rom, then moved to a Galaxy S2 with a custom rom as well (AOSP 4.4.2 with Cyanogen) and now i am using the stock LG rom. I can't say exactly that it sucks, but for sure i prefer the stock AOSP experience with the right tweeks.

Well, a patently I got 6:55, and 33 hours of phone usage on my first experience with the car phone. I used 3g, wife, and web browsing. I don't know if it's good, but I highly doubt it...

Google now widget causing high CPU usage

I have a moto pure running 6.0. Recently I ran into an issue with the google search bar crashing every time i tried a search. I went an uninstalled the google app, rebooted and reinstalled. This resolved the crash with google search but started another issue.
I was having the google app being my number 2 battery user with high CPU pretty much spot on matching the screen time - the device was warm and battery life reduced by 3x from my normal. I installed a CPU monitoring app and noticed that the CPU usage was about 15% continuous for the google search bar googleqicksearchbox:search and googlequicksearchbox together take about 15% and don't stop.
I've tried:
uninstalling the google app, reboot, reinstall
cleared caches for the google app
cleared caches for the google now launcher
uninstalled and reinstalled the google now launcher
Nothing resolved the issue until i did this:
If i remove the google app 4x3 widget the CPU returns to normal - battery returns to normal.
So, it appears to be related to the widget. Does anyone have any other ideas on how to resolve this so i can use the widget? I figure I might be stuck with having to factory reset to resolve.

Google App update constantly listens to audio.
You see it too?
There seems to have been an update on 2/19/16 that broke it, and my own device seems to have picked up the update on 2/26. I noticed that the battery was draining very quickly for the past couple of days, even when idle with the screen off, though it wasn't warm or anything as is usually the case when something goes awry. GSam Battery Stats showed the usual mess of inexplicable Googleness chomping at things, using sensors, and being Googley, but nothing grossly out of the ordinary.
And with the screen on, doing the usual non-intensive things I do, I could watch the battery percentage drop precipitously: 4 percent in a few minutes.
I was using Google Now Launcher, and figured that might be related. I switched to a different launcher, no change. Rebooted for good measure and to make sure Google Now Launcher was definitely not running, no change.
Then I froze the Google App in TiBackup, and the problem went away.
I honed into it being Google App by using top. In a terminal: top -t -b 16. Screenshot: i.imgur.com/19bVXsG.png (no link because I'm too n00b here).
Of note in the screenshot is PID 14272. It's got a lot of threads going, which is not unexpected.
What was unexpected is that some of them were listening to audio. The thread names are abbreviated by top, but one of the threads (14582) is MicrophoneReade which occasionally showed some CPU usage. Another constantly-active thread (14581) is MicroRecognitio, a name which implies TTS. And PID 787, /system/bin/mediaserver, was pretty insistent on using CPU as well with its thread (14584) called AudioIn_2D, verifying that audio was being recorded.
All of this disappeared from top when I froze Google App.
To be clear, I don't use the "OK Google" always-listening function because it drains the battery quickly on my device, but I did have "OK Google" enabled on the home screen. However that shouldn't be happening with another launcher that has no (zero) widgets enabled at all.
So it shouldn't have been listening at all, but it was listening all the time. And this was apparently computationally expensive, and thus hungry for battery.
Samsung Galaxy S5, VZW, running MOAR and Xposed.

My particular issue seems to be related to the 4x3 google now widget. I can use the Google now launcher just fine, till I add that widget then a things go to hell... I really like that widget...

This same thing happened to me on my M9 starting on 2/26. It was getting seriously hot (110-120F) all the time and battery was draining at 33% an hour idle. Navigation was also very choppy and slow. Verizon actually sent me a replacement phone due to the constant over heating and factory resets. Once i got my new one I didn't restore from backup and loaded apps one by one. Sure enough as soon as the NOW widget was added, the phone slowed down and heated up.
With the widget off now for 2 days i am getting my usual 12 hours battery and the temp hasn't gone over 100 F.

Big news from my perspective. Last night I got a Google app update. Today the widget no longer slows down the phone /no more hot phone. Seems like the update fixed it for me... Time will tell.

That's why I don't use that crap! lol. Spies I tell you, spies.

Big news from my perspective. Last night I got a Google app update. Today the widget no longer slows down the phone /no more hot phone. Seems like the update fixed it for me... Time will tell.

Google Play Music + Adblockers = Battery Drain

Has there been any progress on dealing with the massive battery drain caused by combo of Google Play Music & Adblockers?
I have tried reverting back to an older version of GPM and that solved it, but it is nearly impossible to keep it from updating (even detaching market entry using TiBu only stops it for about a day). I ran a logcat of AdAway and started whitelisting Google ad servers, but the battery drain persisted and I now had ads.

Care to explain better? I also use GPM & Adblocker and I was having an unusual drain for about a week.
Since I mess with a lot of things, I reflashed everything today (I had 7.1.1 - march update) and now I'm using 7.1.2 N2G47O with Magisk with its Unified Hosts Adblock module and I'll be able to tell if I still have some drain in the next few days

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Care to explain better? I also use GPM & Adblocker and I was having an unusual drain for about a week.
Since I mess with a lot of things, I reflashed everything today (I had 7.1.1 - march update) and now I'm using 7.1.2 N2G47O with Magisk with its Unified Hosts Adblock module and I'll be able to tell if I still have some drain in the next few days
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The problem seems to be that a few months ago when GPM was updated, it also increased the pinging of ad servers, for whatever reason. Even if you pay for GPM (I do), the ad servers still get pinged. The issue becomes that most of the adblockers simply alter the host file and denies the loading of the ad. Well, this causes the constant re-pinging of that server to load the ad. When you are streaming music through GPM, it is continuously trying to load those ads, massively draining the battery. I'll get about 1.5 hours out of a charge with this issue.

The same problem, it is probably necessary to put some exceptions for the adblocker, that everything would work correctly

Same problem. Tried whitelisting with no luck.
Adaway and with Magisk unified Adblock. Both are the same with major battery drain.
I don't use ad blocking anymore...

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The problem seems to be that a few months ago when GPM was updated, it also increased the pinging of ad servers, for whatever reason. Even if you pay for GPM (I do), the ad servers still get pinged. The issue becomes that most of the adblockers simply alter the host file and denies the loading of the ad. Well, this causes the constant re-pinging of that server to load the ad. When you are streaming music through GPM, it is continuously trying to load those ads, massively draining the battery. I'll get about 1.5 hours out of a charge with this issue.
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That sounds very aggressive - you may have the battery failure that almost all N6p's have (including me). I just disabled my adblocker and I'll see the behavior, but I believe my phone is about to die.

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That sounds very aggressive - you may have the battery failure that almost all N6p's have (including me). I just disabled my adblocker and I'll see the behavior, but I believe my phone is about to die.
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Luckily I don't. It was night/day difference with Adaway on/off out the old GPM app. I just use a external battery pack I bought for my honeymoon in my gym bag.

This is solution
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/adaway-results-googletagmanager-t3537046

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This is solution
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/adaway-results-googletagmanager-t3537046
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The problem with the whitelisting solution is that it causes numerous ads to be allowed, essentially taking away the benefit of AdAway.

Choose the lesser of evils

So glad I finally found this thread. Thank you! I had a heck of a time figuring this out, destroying my battery. I'm using AdHell on an S8 and apparently blocking the ads on play music was doing the same for me - causing the app to churn and eat something like a couple % per hour. With AdHell I just unblocked google play music and play services (just for good measure, don't know if this is necessary) and things seem right again.

I recently had my battery replaced and for a couple of days ran it without an adblocker and totally stock. I always used to root and mess around with the phone but I liked beta Oreo 8.1 so much that I thought I'd try adaway and leave the phone unrooted. Anyway, terrible battery life at work Monday and today. I noticed drain waas high for adaway and that the phone wasn't sleeping. Uninstalled adaway and now a couple hours later, the phone is not draining and has slept with a flatline battery chart.

So, was a solution to this problem ever found? Every time I want to listen to music I have to manually disable adaway... very annoying.

Had the same problem. Battery drained about 30% after 1:30h listening to music. I'll whitelist those apps to see if that would make the difference