A thread for official discussions of the moto g turbo edition till a new device forum is created !
Hi guys just created a new thread to discuss all moto g turbo edition related discussion and q&a.
Also has anyone been able to register the moto g turbo edition on motorola website ?
Thanks for this thread! I'm one of the early adopters of the device; ordered on launch day. Really hope the Mods take notice and create a separate forum for us.
nish7x said:
Thanks for this thread! I'm one of the early adopters of the device; ordered on launch day. Really hope the Mods take notice and create a separate forum for us.
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The problems with this is the device is extremely limited. I believe they've only shipped devices to Mexico and India for the moment. So until us western guys get our hands on a turbo, I'm afraid you're waiting for india/mexico developers. Once one of us out here gets a hand on one you can be sure there will be more development. (More people with the phone)
I'm not saying that development from India, Mexico, wherever is bad. (At all, a lot of amazimg stuff is purely from those regions.) I'm just saying right now only about 1/4 of the world is going to see that turbo so until it's widely released who knows.
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Hi guys just created a new thread to discuss all moto g turbo edition related discussion and q&a.
Also has anyone been able to register the moto g turbo edition on motorola website ?
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yesterday I tried to register to official Motorola forums... but it said something like access denied
firdous95 said:
yesterday I tried to register to official Motorola forums... but it said something like access denied
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I had something like couldn't access device details when I enter device imei
help
WiFi is showing always on in battery stats. WiFi is off ever since... everything from network notification to scanning while sleep... location services is also off.
firdous95 said:
WiFi is showing always on in battery stats. WiFi is off ever since... everything from network notification to scanning while sleep... location services is also off.
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lollipop problem...its just an indication...actually wifi is stopped...fixed in marshmallow
Trying to decide between turbo and G3
@vampire36
Please post screenshots of Sensors tab of CPU z
(obviously of turbo edition )
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Trying to decide between turbo and G3
@vampire36
Please post screenshots of Sensors tab of CPU z
(obviously of turbo edition )
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there you go...
:highfive: I was wanted to but g3 but suddenly turbo came out and I ordered it immediately, as Flipkart take 10 days to deliver at my area I did enough research on this phone and decided to take the delivery...
firdous95 said:
there you go...
:highfive: I was wanted to but g3 but suddenly turbo came out and I ordered it immediately, as Flipkart take 10 days to deliver at my area I did enough research on this phone and decided to take the delivery...
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Thanks :good:
Seems there is no compass/magnet sensor on turbo
I'm using g2 and very much satisfied with it (CM13)
One of my friend is deciding between g3 and turbo
This will help her.
bhavin192 said:
Trying to decide between turbo and G3
@vampire36
Please post screenshots of Sensors tab of CPU z
(obviously of turbo edition )
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I ll also turbo hands down...those extra 1.5k are worth the upgrade of processor and turbo charge !
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Thanks :good:
Seems there is no compass/magnet sensor on turbo
I'm using g2 and very much satisfied with it (CM13)
One of my friend is deciding between g3 and turbo
This will help her.
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Some where I read that now a days GPS satellite give the device information about direction and poles so sensor is not provided in some phones...
But still having an option is good motorola should have provided one :silly:
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Seems there is no compass/magnet sensor on turbo
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That's strange. Both Moto G3 and Moto X Play do have a magnetometer.
Now in the Moto G Turbo which is placed in between those devices Motorola suddenly decides to scrap the magnetometer? Wtf.
I'm new here. This model is also available in Brazil. Recently i did the root,(following the steps of rooting access in the tradicional moto g 2015) but the process is different to get twrp. I only could get the temporary. I'll be waiting for a fixed twrp.(btw, thats it . my english is not good enough, lol)
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I'm new here. This model is also ava)
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is your phone rooted now...?
firdous95 said:
is your phone rooted now...?
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It is! And now because of this my snapchat is not working anymore with the old user that i have. To make work again, i need a twrp . But everything also its working, like tablet metrics, xposed... !!!
For any1 not to miss...Factory image of android 6.0 is up
http://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/general/index-moto-g-factory-firmware-images-t3169639
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For any1 not to miss...Factory image of android 6.0 is up
http://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/general/index-moto-g-factory-firmware-images-t3169639
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vampire what is factory image...is it straight from motorola? can I flash it right away...
Factory firmwares out for moto g3 turbo
It looks like the marshmallow factory firmwares are out for the xt1557. Anyone tried it yet? Can we flash without the risk of losing warranty ?
Related
See here:
https://plus.google.com/107679240815941684447/posts/SRbzCoSW9JX
More:
https://twitter.com/RDR0b11/status/605828513220816896
For the ones who are lazy in reading comments, this is the reason that this guy gives for the delay:
"Verizon delays on latest smartphones are due to Nationwide HD Voice. We want to make sure Software updates for HD Voice service is acceptable and does not impact voice quality. Verizon is the only company that has nationwide HD Voice in the USA. AT&T just has most metro cities here and there. T-Mobile and Sprint are way behind"
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P.D. Maybe now is the time for the Maxx's users to complain about not getting 5.1 as well as the Turbo.
Doesn't the iPhone 6 have HD Voice already? I wonder why they didn't need to delay its release by months so they can test it.
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Doesn't the iPhone 6 have HD Voice already? I wonder why they didn't need to delay its release by months so they can test it.
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From the same guy:
AC 1.0 is not just network related. The unique situation Verizon finds itself is having its original CDMA voice network.. Hard for us to dance around between LTE and CDMA to support VoLTE due to best signal strength in different environments. So with each device update, there is usually a few Qualcomm patches to improve that transition and try to cover all possible calling scenarios our customers may face in our network. And also supporting XLTE new bands. Some device updates turn on a new LTE band on a phone that might have been dormant in an earlier software build.
And Qualcomm is not perfect, so some times when they improve on thing, they break another. So my job and many others in Verizon is to double check all software changes our devices take in... Hence the delay
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Mid Jun is 25 days away! Start your counters
Saw this, and was just about to post it, but you beat me to the punch!
I'm glad that its coming soon and that Verizon is finally communicating with us.
Sent from my soon-to-have-5.1 XT1254
Edit: I attached a an imgur link of the photo that Jose Arturo posted of the XT1254 running 5.1
http://i.imgur.com/TvVGuiY.jpg
jake7405 said:
Saw this, and was just about to post it, but you beat me to the punch!
I'm glad that its coming soon and that Verizon is finally communicating with us.
Sent from my soon-to-have-5.1 XT1254
Edit: I attached a an imgur link of the photo that Jose Arturo posted of the XT1254 running 5.1
http://i.imgur.com/TvVGuiY.jpg
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Huh looks like Kit Kat in the status bar. If that's the case, I'll stay on 4.4.4
i like that guy, its better explaining this than staying in the dark:
J.A. Post on Google+ said:
is not just network related. The unique situation Verizon finds itself is having its original CDMA voice network.. Hard for us to dance around between LTE and CDMA to support VoLTE due to best signal strength in different environments. So with each device update, there is usually a few Qualcomm patches to improve that transition and try to cover all possible calling scenarios our customers may face in our network. And also supporting XLTE new bands. Some device updates turn on a new LTE band on a phone that might have been dormant in an earlier software build.
And Qualcomm is not perfect, so some times when they improve on thing, they break another. So my job and many others in Verizon is to double check all software changes our devices take in... Hence the delay
Motorola is small potatoes on budget compared to Samsung and Apple. Delays are usually due to funding for test verifications on new device software.
Jeeze, I should just shut up... Bye everyone
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hmmmm. choices.............. Stay on root, or take the update........................
OR wait for rooted update!!!!
Patience........... patience...............
Or take the OTA, then root again.
Yeah he is right take update and then root. King root can root up to 5.1.1
wadamean said:
Yeah he is right take update and then root. King root can root up to 5.1.1
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Can Kingroot root the Droid Turbo? And if so, does it disable write protection?
Yes to the first and no to the second, there is a thread on it on the first page with lots of info.
Cases
Thank you very much, I could not find quality phone cases for our
JulesJam said:
Can Kingroot root the Droid Turbo? And if so, does it disable write protection?
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Guess I need to check out kingroot thread again - it didn't seem to be as baked as the current system / images root method.
Jaocagomez said:
Mid Jun is 25 days away! Start your counters
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Take "mid-June" with a grain of salt.
All that means is it probably won't come BEFORE then.
Note the Google + post has been deleted which was referenced in the op. So, actually there is no date promise anymore...
Yeah, there's a lot of built up anger towards Motorola and Verizon (should be directed towards Verizon), so any engineers/spokespeople who publicly post even good news at this point will get lots of backlash for broken promises, lack of past communication -- and rightly so. They need to learn from this instead of running away from it.
Technogen said:
Yes to the first and no to the second, there is a thread on it on the first page with lots of info.
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Got a link to the thread? Can't seem to find it.
Flowah said:
Got a link to the thread? Can't seem to find it.
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"Sorry followers... I got in trouble for Turbo announcement... Need to keep my mouth shut from now on... Enjoy Verizon services and our great devices. "
Nexus 6 is near identical internals.
VoLTE works fine sans camera and I'm certain that is software related.
So I'd take the VoLTE cause for the hold up with a grain of salt too. Especially since Verizon was so willing to ship it last year when it was clearly broken and would have shown in testing.
Galaxo60 said:
"Sorry followers... I got in trouble for Turbo announcement... Need to keep my mouth shut from now on... Enjoy Verizon services and our great devices. "
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I was asking about the Kingroot for Droid Turbo.
Thanks to David Schuster, we have a nice clear and concise distinction. (https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster/posts/7gyi8NQZTZB)
TestDrive --> Early validation to a small group (20-200) of individuals that can last weeks to months.
Soak Test --> Next stage, using the final release candidate lasting usually 2-7 days.
Full deployment --> Last stage, full roll out of update.
Moto X 1st Gen 5.1 Update (2015-06-23):
--> Looks like the final release version will be 222.21.15 for those who didn't know already. (https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/105221)
--> Full soak tests for France and Germany Retail. (https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster/posts/ETpoNrkmmrA)
--> Started soak tests for the following retail devices: Belgium, Italy, Netherlands, Spain, Australia, Hong Kong, India, Kuwait, Malaysia, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Singapore and United Arab Emirates. (https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster/posts/ci1UAEv2oYB)
--> Full deployment for US Retail, Rogers Canada and Brazil Retail. (https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster/posts/bEVD4De32Uo)
--> A few reports of the Retail GB OTA Update. Check here for more info.
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2015-06-23
Reserved (Who knows...maybe something fun will happen)
but .15 has many bugs like toggle speaker on calls cant be final release.
I got an invite to fill out a survey for a preview software for my verizon 2013 moto x about 2 hours ago. Might be coming out soon.
Restola said:
I got an invite to fill out a survey for a preview software for my verizon 2013 moto x about 2 hours ago. Might be coming out soon.
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hawt damn, soak tests are en-route. hopefully AT&T is quick about theirs
People actually think we are getting M? Lol.
Restola said:
I got an invite to fill out a survey for a preview software for my verizon 2013 moto x about 2 hours ago. Might be coming out soon.
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Please post a TWRP backup!
thekendog said:
Please post a TWRP backup!
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Don't have the phone any more or I would.
Restola said:
Don't have the phone any more or I would.
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Ironic.
Restola said:
I got an invite to fill out a survey for a preview software for my verizon 2013 moto x about 2 hours ago. Might be coming out soon.
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What carrier was your Moto X?
I've been part of all the prior soak tests but no invite for me yet.
Just FYI, that's speaker phone problem is not an issue in the .15 for US.
Not all , I think will get 5.1.1.1 no 5.1 between to late this month.
android M forget it will not get it.
whgp said:
Not all , I think will get 5.1.1.1 no 5.1 between to late this month.
android M forget it will not get it.
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Saw a post of a chat to Moto support somewhere on the forums where the Moto employee answering said we will get M. But we all know to take this kind of thing with lots of pinches of salt.
stealtheye said:
Saw a post of a chat to Moto support somewhere on the forums where the Moto employee answering said we will get M. But we all know to take this kind of thing with lots of pinches of salt.
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Motorola support employees know nothing about updates. They are reading from a script, and they don't really know what to say about future updates. So, yeah, no pinches of salt, just ignore whatever they say.
stealtheye said:
Saw a post of a chat to Moto support somewhere on the forums where the Moto employee answering said we will get M. But we all know to take this kind of thing with lots of pinches of salt.
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Yeah, I saw the screenshot too, but it was painfully vague and only mentioned that the 2013 X may be eligible. So, yeah, double suspect there. We'll probably get more half baked Cyanogen forks of M and that's it.
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Yeah, I saw the screenshot too, but it was painfully vague and only mentioned that the 2013 X may be eligible. So, yeah, double suspect there. We'll probably get more half baked Cyanogen forks of M and that's it.
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Yeah you probably right. I can't see them doing all of this over again to give us M. They might just can everything after 5.1, which will be a shame considering its such an awesome handset.
Check the first post for some more updated info. Soak tests happening all over now. Just no full roll outs...
Does anyone have news about GB Retail? I know David hasn't listed it but maybe theres been some leaks?
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Check first post for info on official full deployment of 5.1
Please take some time out to post on this (lenovo)forum:
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/MOTO-G...nd/Moto-G-2nd-Touch-Delay/td-p/3318514/page/2
with the following info:
Also, we'd like to get some information about your phones. If you have ADB and know how to use it, please run the following ADB commands and report back the results.
adb shell cat /sys/bus/i2c/devices/5-0020/ic_ver
adb shell cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/panel_ver
adb shell cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/panel_supplier
This has been asked by a moto agent and she said on 27th may that it would be "evaluated by the engineers" but so far no reply. If you could please post on the forum with the info so that she could know that there are many of us who notice this bug. Maybe create a few new threads, too? Maybe with enough noise something might happen
For those who say "what bug, I don't know" try Local Warfare Portable from Play Store on 5.1 and 6.0.1 and see the difference. Besides games firefox scrolling is pretty messed up, I can't read an article properly on it.
Thanks
No news for now? Would be bad for Motorola to confirm an issue and do nothing to fix it.
I really don't think they'll provide any means of fixing this issue. This is not their flagship phone, and 6.0 will be the last Android support G2 will ever have. Even now beign Lenovo.
Google did the same thing by not acknowledging the Nexus 4 camera bug, their flagship at the time.
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I really don't think they'll provide any means of fixing this issue. This is not their flagship phone, and 6.0 will be the last Android support G2 will ever have. Even now beign Lenovo.
Google did the same thing by not acknowledging the Nexus 4 camera bug, their flagship at the time.
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You are wasting your time mate! Lenovo does not and will not respond to any problems with these phones. Look at the the hardbrick issue affecting 100's of Moto G2nd users. They just don't give a damn!!!! I have a working Moto G2 but but it will be my 1st and last Moto phone ever unless they change their attitude towards us ... The end users.
We failed, lol
After seeing their support, I'm certain about not buying any Lenovo/Moto device again
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We failed, lol
After seeing their support, I'm certain about not buying any Lenovo/Moto device again
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Good luck with that. I've had Moto, Samsung, Huawei, and LG and support was crap on all of them.
Tel864 said:
Good luck with that. I've had Moto, Samsung, Huawei, and LG and support was crap on all of them.
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Actually, had good support experiences with Samsung, but since their new phones are dev-closed, I'm looking for another brand. Currently looking at Xiaomi.
What's the touch issue?
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What's the touch issue?
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The screen doesn't pick light/quick touches correctly. I recorded a video showing the issue a few months ago, here it is:
On CM13, doing a quick swipe to unlock the phone doesn't work correctly, you have to do a firm swipe. It's really annoying, mostly in some games like Vainglory (touch-based moba where quick taps are essential) and Pokémon GO (swiping to throw the pokeball doesn't work only you really press on the screen).
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Guys, Motorola pushed an update and seems like it fixes the touch issue. Can someone check?
josfr4ncisco said:
Guys, Motorola pushed an update and seems like it fixes the touch issue. Can someone check?
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source?
Wolfcity said:
source?
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Someone posted it on CM14's thread, also reported on Motorola/Lenovo's forums.
---------- Post added at 07:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:13 PM ----------
Confirmed, the issue is gone on Thea. Checking Titan later.
Update: I'm talking with LuK about fixing the issue, and if we can find the firmware for XT1072, he probably will get it fixed. Can anyone help?
Confirmed: the touch issue was solved. Moto needs to release kernel source now so custom ROMs can be fixed as well.
known when the update will appear on the ROM retail dsds.retaildsdsall.en.03 ??
now my system is up to date
Guys, so seems like LuK found how to fix the touch issues. The latest stock ROM (the one released a few days ago) updates your bootloader to version 0x4887, and that new bootloader fixes the touch issue. When I mentioned the new bootloader to him, he asked me to flash CM13 because it could fix the touch issues, and it did! So, for those who experience touch issues on custom ROMs, please flash the latest stock ROM to update the bootloader, and then flash CM13/14 to have your issues solved
Could someone give me the link to the new update? Would avoid a lot of wasted time
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Could someone give me the link to the new update? Would avoid a lot of wasted time
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Here's the link for Moto's FileFactory folder: http://www.filefactory.com/folder/c6cdedc45a775d27/?sort=created&order=DESC&show=25
Go ahead and check if the update for your model/country is already there.
I have XT1068 EU, can I flash bootloader of XT1068 BR?
Zenzero XT1068
Can someone upload just the bootloader for 1063 please? Poor connection with filefactory
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I have owned my XT-1644 (US version, apparently there is another version) since my charging port went in my Moto X Pure Edition.
I have been able to get (1) custom unofficial CM13 build from 8/23. I have tried every ROM, even ones without threads. I am constantly getting stuck at boot animation on every single ROM.
1)Are there others with this issue?
2)Any "US spec" XT1644(S) booting without issues?
3) Unfortunately the HD went in the laptop I was using, thankfully after unlocking bootloader and rooting, so I can't help with logs....
Any input would be greatly appreciated...
Same here, luckily xposed and gravitybox do almost everything I need. I'll hopefully be selling this phone in a few days anyways.
954wrecker said:
Same here, luckily xposed and gravitybox do almost everything I need. I'll hopefully be selling this phone in a few days anyways.
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So it isn't just me, Ok, I thought it was Me or my device. I am waiting for a new charging port and front glass for my Moto X Pure. It's just gonna take some time...I hope.
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So it isn't just me, Ok, I thought it was Me or my device. I am waiting for a new charging port and front glass for my Moto X Pure. It's just gonna take some time...I hope.
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Same problem(s) here. Kind of disappointing honestly. My old moto g3 has better community ROM support than my new g4+ :/
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Same problem(s) here. Kind of disappointing honestly. My old moto g3 has better community ROM support than my new g4+ :/
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You need to Remember, the G3 was out for a year, G4 a couple months. Development will get there. Ive been working with the devs for our model...
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QUEW1134 said:
Same problem(s) here. Kind of disappointing honestly. My old moto g3 has better community ROM support than my new g4+ :/[/UOTE]
You need to Remember, the G3 was out for a year, G4 a couple months. Development will get there. Ive been working with the devs for our model...
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Good point. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for your effort/help with the devs
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This is happening to me, as well. It's maddening!!
Same here with my xt1642 4/64gb. Test 3 diff. custom rom but none will boot .
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Might sound like an undcredible source but i have a friend who had a replacement G4 from LG after his bootlooped a few weeks ago. After having a look at it I realised that ir was running nougat and i checked the about device whichcame to show it was running v30A. I gather that this means 7.0 shouldnt be too long for us
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Might sound like an undcredible source but i have a friend who had a replacement G4 from LG after his bootlooped a few weeks ago. After having a look at it I realised that ir was running nougat and i checked the about device whichcame to show it was running v30A. I gather that this means 7.0 shouldnt be too long for us
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use screen recorder post a video..
get screenshots.
Ill definitely get some screenshots and try for a video
Get screenshots and video or the internal affairs office of XDA will find you and your friend and you will have an accident .
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Get screenshots and video or the internal affairs office of XDA will find you and your friend and you will have an accident .
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Ill definitely get some screenshots and try for a video
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if you do try taking it with anothee phone .:good:
waiting for this ..:fingers-crossed:
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Get screenshots and video or the internal affairs office of XDA will find you and your friend and you will have an accident .
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Liam Neeson is that u? forgive him sir! :laugh:
fake alert!
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fake alert!
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Unless I see screenshots and preferably a video I call fake too. Why would LG flash Nougat on a phone went for service? I also assume this (of real at all) is a test build. Why would they flash an early test build on someone's phone? Without a proof I'm not willing to believe anything.
There's no way this is true. LG had my phone a month and I just got it back. They put out an update the day I got it to 21A, but it still came to me on 20A. This thread should just be deleted
How to spot a fake ? Simple. First of all, if that phone were running a nougat then the interface would have changed like on g5 (don't need to check the version of the software, and since he got it from service, couldn't be a custom rom on it ) and second, is too soon to talk about nougat on g4.
****ing genious.
Guys, check this out, my friends sisters aunts boyfriend found a G4 on the street. And when he booted it up it was running Android O, codename Opium, which he was smoking at the moment (talk about coincidence!). Sorry no pics because we only have potatoes in my country, but it is 100% true.
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Guys, check this out, my friends sisters aunts boyfriend found a G4 on the street. And when he booted it up it was running Android O, codename Opium, which he was smoking at the moment (talk about coincidence!). Sorry no pics because we only have potatoes in my country, but it is 100% true.
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Winner. Please delete this thread so nobody gets excited when they read the title. Sort of like the MM root thread that points to a damn website that has root for every phone in existence.
Yeah I agree the thread should be deleted. Unless OP can provide real screenshots and video it's a troll thread.
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Might sound like an undcredible source but i have a friend who had a replacement G4 from LG after his bootlooped a few weeks ago. After having a look at it I realised that ir was running nougat and i checked the about device whichcame to show it was running v30A. I gather that this means 7.0 shouldnt be too long for us
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Post the pics/video, I'll have a look when I'm back from my night out woth Angelina Jolie.
So no news on this ?
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So no news on this ?
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It's obviously fake. No pics or video means absolutely no proof. Plus there is no way they flashed Nougat on a guy's phone so early. First G5 will get Nougat then the G4. It will take some months before we see it. Thread should be deleted or locked since OP never provided proof for his claims
by the time he shows us, well be running stock LG nougat LOL