HDR performance battle: Z5 vs. Galaxy S5 - Xperia Z5 General

I've done some real-life tests of the HDR function, which has been very good on my Galaxy S5. Below are the S5 vs. the Z5. On the S5, HDR is easy; on the Z5, Superior Auto doesn't have HDR, but there's an HDR setting in Manual mode. The best I could get with the Z5 still looks (to me) worse than the S5, because you can see less detail, even if there's more light (you can brighten the S5 pics if you want, but you can't extract more detail out of an overexposed scene).
In the lamp+TV scene, look at the sine-wave like detail on the lamp cover. The S5 shows it without problem; on the Z5, you can barely see it if you zoom in, due to overexposure.
In the food + window scene, the Galaxy S5 wins again. The detail in the food plate is better, the spoon is less overexposed, and the foliage in the upper left corner is also better exposed.
Notes
1. Originals can be found in my Flickr album comparing the Xperia Z5 vs. Galaxy S5 camera performance.
2. Also, keep in mind this is a previous generation Galaxy S5. The S6 probably has even better picture quality.
3. The Z5 photos are badly distorted in the corners - the food plate looks oval, and the lap cover looks elongated too. Read more in the Z5 distortion thread.

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Camera comparison: Xperia Z1 / LG G2 / Galaxy S4 / Galaxy Note 3 and... Google Glass

Hi,
here is another of my photo comparison. This time I have Sony Xperia Z1, LG G2, Samsung Galaxy S4, Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and... Google Glass! Enjoy (even if it's written in italian)!
http://www.androidworld.it/2013/10/...-note-3-189931/comment-page-1/#comment-468801
Your comparing a 5mp camera up against flagship phones with better sensors and higher pixel density. Glass would be better compared against a Galaxy Nexus lol. But cool pics, and thanks for sharing. Some Glass pics come out just as good as some 8mp cameras out there!
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EnemyOfGlaDOS said:
Your comparing a 5mp camera up against flagship phones with better sensors and higher pixel density. Glass would be better compared against a Galaxy Nexus lol. But cool pics, and thanks for sharing. Some Glass pics come out just as good as some 8mp cameras out there!
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Including Google Glass on this comparison was just for fun
Glass picture
The specificity of Glass' camera is that is has a very wide field of view - it's almost a fisheye. It makes sense: as you wear it, you expect when taking a picture to capture what you see within your field of view.... so the lens was engineered that way.
Phone cameras have narrower field of view (but autofocus.... flash, etc.... - Glass doesn't have autofocus neither flash (obviously))
Cheers
Dan

Note 4 front camera HORRIBLE noise

Is it possible to capture a photo in broad daylight and have it look like this? The noise is HORRIBLE! (skin correction is turned off). I dont even dare take selfie shots. The results are ALWAYS awful not matter the lighting conditions.
This is during daylight:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ss4un6ftg86fvuz/front camera.jpg?dl=0
This is at dusk, so its not completely dark:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1y6jkki7o0xet9q/2015-08-11 20.18.00.jpg?dl=0
No one? Everyone's Note 4 takes so bad front camera pictures? Oo
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This is unfortunately typical of the Note 4's front camera. The module's just not quite up to snuff - it's got a tiny sensor without OIS. Sure, the optics get a bit more light in, but at the cost of stretching things near the edges.
Skin correction "helps" things a bit I guess, by blurring the skin surface so you don't see image artifacts, but it makes other things in the frame blurry.
This is very weird. The Note 3 I had before had a better front camera than the Note 4!

Camera exposure and response time

I find the camera takes darker pictures, especially in low light, compared to Note 5 (underexposed perhaps? Not a photography buff at all . Also, the snapping pictures in general seems to be slower vs. Note 5.
Any suggestions?
I currently have both 6p and Note 5 and truly find the Note 5 to have an all-around better camera. 6p but bad by any means, but tough comparing to Note 5.
Been comparing to a friend's note 5.
The note seems to overexpose a tad in lower light.
6p seems like it's a tad darker around the edges, but for the most part is a better match to what the eye sees.
Hdr+ balances everything out, and should be used whenever possible - like always.
It works wonders. This coming from an amateur photographer, well, I have been paid for my work, but I still consider myself an amateur - even after 35+ years of playing with cameras.
Phazmos said:
Been comparing to a friend's note 5.
The note seems to overexpose a tad in lower light.
6p seems like it's a tad darker around the edges, but for the most part is a better match to what the eye sees.
Hdr+ balances everything out, and should be used whenever possible - like always.
It works wonders. This coming from an amateur photographer, well, I have been paid for my work, but I still consider myself an amateur - even after 35+ years of playing with cameras.
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Agree with your assessment. Note 5 can tend to overexpose slightly in low light but overall I find Note 5 pics to be a bit clearer in low light. Even with hdr auto on both. Also agree the 6p tends to be darker around the edges. Biggest concern I have with 6p is length of time to focus/snap picture. Seems far longer than Note 5...
lp1527 said:
Agree with your assessment. Note 5 can tend to overexpose slightly in low light but overall I find Note 5 pics to be a bit clearer in low light. Even with hdr auto on both. Also agree the 6p tends to be darker around the edges. Biggest concern I have with 6p is length of time to focus/snap picture. Seems far longer than Note 5...
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Only been playing with the new 6p for a couple days, but so far it seems pretty instantaneous.
Point, click, there's a picture - and in focus.
Been very very happy with the camera so far.
With HDR off the shutter is crazy fast, pretty much instantaneous. I keep auto HDR on because the HDR on this phone creates truly amazing results. If your phone is shooting HDR there is a little bit of a lag when taking a photo but not terrible. I'll take the slight lag of the HDR because the increased image quality far outweighs it.
As for underexposing images, I don't think there is any issue there. Keep in mind that the screen on the 6p is calibrated very differently than most devises. I notice images look underexposed on my phone's screen but on a computer screen or another device they look fine. I have adaptive display on so it is dimming the screen making the image look darker than it really is.
Look at the histogram of the photos if you want to see the dynamic range and the actual exposure info. In low light my 6p is very good figuring out the exposure. The histogram is obviously on the darker side if I take a photo in low light but there isn't any clipping at all under reasonable low-light. In extreme situations, like a photo in the middle of the night with only one light source, then the shadows clip but they would with any camera. What is really impressive is the lack of noise!! Usually when you have full black on a cell phone pic you get a ton of noise but the 6p is pretty good at just letting it go black rather than trying to overexpose.
The dynamic range with the HDR on is really impressive. Even extreme contrast like indoor photos with a bright window in the background won't clip in the highlights.
I am having a blast testing the limits of this camera.
nonnasmyladie said:
With HDR off the shutter is crazy fast, pretty much instantaneous. I keep auto HDR on because the HDR on this phone creates truly amazing results. If your phone is shooting HDR there is a little bit of a lag when taking a photo but not terrible. I'll take the slight lag of the HDR because the increased image quality far outweighs it.
As for underexposing images, I don't think there is any issue there. Keep in mind that the screen on the 6p is calibrated very differently than most devises. I notice images look underexposed on my phone's screen but on a computer screen or another device they look fine. I have adaptive display on so it is dimming the screen making the image look darker than it really is.
Look at the histogram of the photos if you want to see the dynamic range and the actual exposure info. In low light my 6p is very good figuring out the exposure. The histogram is obviously on the darker side if I take a photo in low light but there isn't any clipping at all under reasonable low-light. In extreme situations, like a photo in the middle of the night with only one light source, then the shadows clip but they would with any camera. What is really impressive is the lack of noise!! Usually when you have full black on a cell phone pic you get a ton of noise but the 6p is pretty good at just letting it go black rather than trying to overexpose.
The dynamic range with the HDR on is really impressive. Even extreme contrast like indoor photos with a bright window in the background won't clip in the highlights.
I am having a blast testing the limits of this camera.
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Can you please explain to me the slowest shutter time of the nexus 6p with a third party app? Currently I have a Oneplus 2 and I can get up to 30 seconds which is a lot. My Oneplus 1 even had 60 seconds. Can I have these values with the nexus 6p or through a mod?
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i'm very disappointed with 4k video

Hi guys, have i got a faulty S8? I purchased it 24 hours ago to upgrade from my S5 , and mainly for a better video camera experience.
The S5 gave superbly sharp 4k video in all but the dimmest lighting conditions, though it was very jerky and showed a lot of rolling shutter jello effects.
So I replaced my S5 with the S8 after reading reviews and watching video samples, but with my S8 set to UHD, i'm finding the video looks more like HD as it's no where near as sharp as the S5
looking at grass and leaves in early evening light, they look mushy, whereas my S5 showed every strand of grass pin sharp.
So could it be i have a bad camera, or is the S8's UHD not as sharp as the S5?
I'm coming from a Note 4, and I feel the same way. I mainly bought my S8 for the great camera that was touted, but my Note 4 had much sharper pictures by far. I will make a post with some side by sides eventually comparing the 2. The S8s pictures are more soft around the edges, not as much detail, and with high contrast areas (such as taking a pictures in a car of the gauges, black with white letters) there is a lot of bleed from the white over the black, like a fuzz. Video also seemed better on the Note 4.
This is very dissapointing as I bought my S8 primarily for a 4k pocket size "camcorder" as my S5, though pin sharp, makes 4k video's too shakey and with constant focus hunting.
The S8 was touted as the best camera ever, next to the Iphone7 and google pixel, so naturally i thought that camera tech should have improved since 3 years ago when i bought the S5.
The biggest improvement is that 4k is much better stabilized and very little rolling shutter, but the image quality is just about the same as FHD, the sharpness if the S5 in 4k video is so sharp that i see every pixel is used individually on my 1080 computer screen, yet the S8 sharpness close up on my 1080 screen, you can see several pixels are blended as one colour, this is on the high detail items, as its very dissapointing if your a 4k fan like myself. I really don't understand why they rated the S8 camera so high for 4k, but having said that, I have seen a few Youtube videos of S8 4k footage and it does look really good, which takes me to my next question, what sensor do we have, as apparantly there are two different sensors fitted to S8 models, a Sony or a Samsung sensor, could it be that one is better than the other?
So i'm guessing theres no point it taking the phone in for repair?
I will try and upload comparison screenshots if this site allowes for this.
Post the video on youtube of the s5 and s8 as unlisted.
Problem solved!
Perhaps I jumped in too soon to report the problem of my 4k video, it turns out that the media player that i'm using on my pc is MPC-HC and this player automatically zooms in to a 1080 crop of the 4k video, I found this out by accident when I noticed that the playback looked more zoomed in than i remembered shooting the scenes, so by pressing the number 1 key on the numeral keyboard, the video zooms out to its full frame and now i'm happy to say that the videos are pin sharp from the S8 too.
Funny thing was that the S5 4k videos played at full frame on MPC-HC without having to zoom out and thats why i thought that the S8 was faulty.

[Camera Review] - The Unassuming Bea5T

I expected a decent camera (having used a 3t before) and back then 3t could hold its own 70% of the time against the S7edge and iPhones, but had lacked the oomph/wow factor in the images it produced. The 5t is a huge improvement over 3t (I guess this is due to the fact that i did not use op5). The images are crisp, well lit and razer sharp in good to average lighting conditions. More often than not I have been mighty impressed with the OOB images from the camera and I have not been editing them on snapseed because I didn't feel the need to - thats a testament to the camera processing on this phone (OnePlus has come a long way here).
Note: Click on the images to view full size versions of them. All images posted here are straight out of the camera without any editing/post-processing done to them.
Good lighting:
Moderate/Tricky Lighting and conditions:
I expected things to go down south as it did on the 3T on similar lighting conditions. Seattle is a particularly tricky place to get good evening shots as its mostly grey and gloomy and camera's dynamic range becomes a big factor when shooting in Seattle. The camera did a good job detecting the need for HDR on the streetcar shot below (It notifies on the camera UI that its using HDR). Given the gloomy and dim conditions I was very impressed with the picture. I was unsure about composition when the streetcar was moving so I long pressed the shutter - With HDR on, it took about 4 shots in very quick succession (Thats impressive speed, slightly better than S7edge camera). The other 2 images below are in bright to moderately dim indoor conditions with multiple colorful stuff in the frame to meter. I have to admit that in indoor warm lighting the blue tones take a serious hit and ends up grey-er than normal. On the 3rd image below there was so many small tiny details on those objects and I was blown away by the sharpness and details on that image given that the lighting was only moderate.
Low Light and severely-low/dark lighting conditions:
I did read the op5 reviews early on and part of the reason why i skipped that was due to the low light camera performance (and lack of 18:9 screen). I wouldn't say they have blown me away here but I was getting more wow-worthy images out of this camera setup than the previous oneplus phones. 7/10 times I ended up not having to re-shoot the image or edit for sharpness and noise reduction. The first image below is a 7 AM (yeah thats how Seattle is in the morning) night lit building shot of the amazon bioshperes - the shot came out very very sharp and with excellent details. The lights were too bright so I am not surprised by the blown highlight spots, but the details on the greens/plants inside could have been better.
The next 2 images were taken in very poor lighting conditions. The first one is from under the kitchen cabinet where its the darkest corner and I know there is nothing going on here, but this is was shot i was MOST impressed with from this camera. there was absolutely no light in there but the outcome was a very pleasingly clear and crisp/usable image of my shiny cookie jar and hot chocolate cups.
The last one below is a photo with a faint one LED light source on a toy, i have linked the full lighting image for comparison of colors on the toy - in short: yeah it does better, but image processing needs lot of work on super dark conditions color noise and smudgy artifacts are visible.
Regular lighting shot of the above toy for comparison: https://i.imgur.com/cM9dPnMh.jpg
Portrait mode and Macro:
This is an exciting feature and I was completely not expecting such results (DSLR-esque bokeh). Granted this is my first portrait mode equipped camera phone (as a daily driver), and I was thinking that the G6s wide angle was the best second camera option until this happened. I am going to let the sample images speak for itself.
In short:
Very pleasing subtle bokeh
Color rendition on macros is "phenomenal"
Sharp... sharp as a needle.
No glaring smudgy artifacts on portrait mode when lighting is good.
very close focusing distance
did I say sharp.. its freaking sharp - just look at the chipmunk picture below, those hairs can give you a paper-cut by just looking.
Nice shots! Can't wait to get my 5T next week. Had the 5 before but sold it and now I'm borrowing a friend's 3T. So technically I've upgraded, then downgraded, and now will be upgrading again:laugh:
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