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Hi there, not sure if this is a common problem or not.
Whenever I take a photo on the phone it appears okay, but when I start to zoom in it comes out really blurry. The camera's set to 13mp and even on 9.6 it's blurry too. Is it like this for everyone?
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The quality will get more poor whenever you zoom in. I haven't had any issues with poor quality while zooming yet, but I'll have an eye open for it.
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Haha, I meant after I'd taken the picture. Back when I owned an iPhone 4 a couple years ago, zooming in after taking the picture was still crystal clear, and that was only a 5 megapixel camera..
samb222 said:
Haha, I meant after I'd taken the picture. Back when I owned an iPhone 4 a couple years ago, zooming in after taking the picture was still crystal clear, and that was only a 5 megapixel camera..
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Well... I think I get what you mean, and it has to do mainly with the resolution of the screen. When visualising pictures in a FullHD screen (2MP) the available real size is "only" 2.5times the display size on each direction. (Screen is ~2kx1k, 13MP is ~5kx2.5k pixels). And when you zoom in you quickly reach (and surpass) the real (sharp) size.
With an old phone (say 800x480) you had plenty of zooming to do before reaching the 5MP size.
The complementary reason to this is that the camera 13MP sensor is not proportionally sized with respect to good 8MP ones.
Having said all this, I find the quality of the S4 pictures to be OUTSTANDING for a mobile device.
pintycar said:
Well... I think I get what you mean, and it has to do mainly with the resolution of the screen. When visualising pictures in a FullHD screen (2MP) the available real size is "only" 2.5times the display size on each direction. (Screen is ~2kx1k, 13MP is ~5kx2.5k pixels). And when you zoom in you quickly reach (and surpass) the real (sharp) size.
With an old phone (say 800x480) you had plenty of zooming to do before reaching the 5MP size.
The complementary reason to this is that the camera 13MP sensor is not proportionally sized with respect to good 8MP ones.
Having said all this, I find the quality of the S4 pictures to be OUTSTANDING for a mobile device.
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Ah that makes more sense, thanks
Which mode/settings do you use? My pictures are good but nothing spectacular.
samb222 said:
Ah that makes more sense, thanks
Which mode/settings do you use? My pictures are good but nothing spectacular.
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I usually leave it on Auto Mode although some times I do have to lower the ISO level because it tends to like high ISO values unnecessarily. I'm not a Pro photographer though.. there's probably some thread about tips and tricks to get the best out of it.
Thanks.
Post a full res picture here so we can see if they're ok.
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Post a full res picture here so we can see if they're ok.
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This picture came out surprisingly well for a change haha. Still interested on your opinions though
Have you removed the plastic lens protector?. To do so, remove the back plate and proceed carefully with your fingernail
inolvidable said:
Have you removed the plastic lens protector?. To do so, remove the back plate and proceed carefully with your fingernail
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Yep, removed it
I'm getting lots of softness and graininess on the front camera.
I'm having the same problems with the front camera. It's so frustrating as it didn't happen with the S2!!
as the xperia z the z1 is as close to the perfect phone i can get but i thought i'd make a wishlist for the z2
1.i would like 4 speakers two on each side in the corner to utilize surround
2.the best screen you can get in a phone with the best black level and the best viewing angles (a sony developed oled would be amazing)
3.camera does not matter to me (but i guess a less noisy camera with xenon flash)
4.thinner bezels all around to give the phone a more sharp corners design (not too thin) (AND ABSOLUTELY no inner plastic like the z1 it slightly ruins that phone for me)
5.brushed metal finish at the back i read nfc won't work behind metal so not sure how to use that maybe put the nfc sensor at the side not back
6.fully customizable size/looks/color/theme and hidable onscreen buttons (hides in any fullscreen application) also customizable notification bar i like that the layer behind it dissappears when in the menu it looks nicer i want it like that always
7.able to use the phone everywhere in landscape mode menus and everything (it can be done if it's connected in the dock)
8.thinner metal frame all around matte black color (honestly i feel no difference holding the z1 from when i held the z)
9.4.6 or 4.7 inch screen like the htc one
The thin bezels
Oleophobic coating (without skin)
Optical stabilization
Support for 4K video recording to zoom during video recording
IPS or PLS screen for all versions
I really dont see a disadvantage in our not soooo small bezels. It is really anoying if you always have to hold the phone in a way that you dont touch the edge of the display and command something unwanted... Other new phones have that problem and many of my friends complained about that.
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I really dont see a disadvantage in our not soooo small bezels. It is really anoying if you always have to hold the phone in a way that you dont touch the edge of the display and command something unwanted... Other new phones have that problem and many of my friends complained about that.
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This problem does not exist. I am the owner of G2, and read reviews on S4, G2 and etc., none of that
Cloverfi said:
This problem does not exist. I am the owner of G2, and read reviews on S4, G2 and etc., none of that
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I used G2 before owning z1, and yes unwanted touches always happens...
But still G2 is better than Z1
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I used G2 before owning z1, and yes unwanted touches always happens...
But still G2 is better than Z1
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just curious, why you think the g2 is better?
Jiyeon90 said:
just curious, why you think the g2 is better?
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Better battery life
Better display and viewing
Bigger screen
Lighter
Smaller than z1 but 5.2" screen size
Lots of features
Better camera and video recording
Gorilla glass
I cant notice any difference when it comes to performance.
The only advantage of Z1 is its dust and water resistant and the presence of expandable storage. (except the Korean Variant)
My reason for shifting to Z1 is that my g2 was only 16gb and the 32gb is not available here.
But still I'm happy and satisfied with Z1...
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My wish list would be:
thinner
Thinner bezels
IPS LCD screen
Floating touch technology
Android 4.4 out of the box
Better battery
And if possible, no covered ports
S Master Chip!
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You are pretty much asking for the perfect phone which will not happen.
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The only advantage of Z1 is its dust and water resistant and the presence of expandable storage. (except the Korean Variant)
My reason for shifting to Z1 is that my g2 was only 16gb and the 32gb is not available here.
But still I'm happy and satisfied with Z1...
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Z1 only has 16GB, so you moved to Z1 just for dust resistance & expandable storage ?
As for Z2, you know these fat bezels on the Z1 that everyone likes to gripe about ? i would like to see speakers in there like htc has.
I have this idea that sony is testing the market acceptability of a form factor like on the Z1.
From the LG G2: Screen, bezels/housing, battery and reception (wifi/gsm)
From the HTC One: Speakers and build quality
From the Z1: Camera (mixed with the G2 camera, OIS), build quality, water-proof and software/looks
That would be about it
well keeping it real..
i would love to see Z2 to have these features:
OIS, oh yes this has to be included in Z2...
better camera algorithm, we know Sony cams have good potential....
S-Master for Mobile, well not exactly the REAL S-Master we see in Walkman devices, but seeing these chips in the upcoming flagship Xperias would be nice
Oleophobic coating on screen and rear glass, THIS!! THIS!!!! i hate to keep the shatterproof sheet on as it scratches easily, using screenguard is annoying too as it also scratches easily while the screen itself is already pretty tough, but the screen is a goddamn fingerprint and dust magnet
better video Codec built-in
better viewing angle, it was kinda shocking to see my old Xperia V has way better viewing angle than Z1 which is supposedly to be a superior display with Triluminos...
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From the LG G2: Screen, bezels/housing, battery and reception (wifi/gsm)
From the HTC One: Speakers and build quality
From the Z1: Camera (mixed with the G2 camera, OIS), build quality, water-proof and software/looks
That would be about it
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Build quality? Z1 has better build quality than HTC One.
I've had s4 and htc one and wanted note 3 or nexus 5 untill I got Z1, I can honestly say Z1 is a keeper and I'm very happy with it.
Cant speak for G2? Power button on back? Crap UI? No thanks.
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Build quality? Z1 has better build quality than HTC One.
I've had s4 and htc one and wanted note 3 or nexus 5 untill I got Z1, I can honestly say Z1 is a keeper and I'm very happy with it.
Cant speak for G2? Power button on back? Crap UI? No thanks.
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I like them both so I listed build quality for both devices Had no complaints wiht my HTC one, was solid as hell and felt great. But yeah, Z1 is fine too in that aspect.
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I like them both so I listed build quality for both devices Had no complaints wiht my HTC one, was solid as hell and felt great. But yeah, Z1 is fine too in that aspect.
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I was so scared to mark the metal on HTC one and seen one all dented on back after a few months lol looked awful
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Lots of features
Better camera and video recording
Gorilla glass
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Seriously? You got to be kidding with those three. And I'm not sure about battery life.
Anyway, All I wish for the Z2 is:
A BIGGER power button,
OIS,
If some act of God would make possible an uncovered-waterproof uncovered micro USB port,
a bit thinner, maybe just like the Z,
And maybe a better screen (although I'm very happy with it).
Maybe about the thing with bezels is that they should put physical buttons on that space.
camera without bubbles at zoom, better screen better than s amoled and dont know more for now
I actually would have bought it if it had an IR blaster.
I just really lol sometimes at the wishlist, if you seriously want all those kind ofa perfect features from a smartphone why don't you start manufacturing your own mobiles lol?
One thing I really liked about my N2 was the relatively wide camera angle. The camera in the N3 is great but feels a little less wide. Too bad I dont have the N2 any more to comapre side by side. Does anyone know wha the angles are on these cameras and which is wider?
Thanks
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One thing I really liked about my N2 was the relatively wide camera angle. The camera in the N3 is great but feels a little less wide. Too bad I dont have the N2 any more to comapre side by side. Does anyone know wha the angles are on these cameras and which is wider?
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The camera comparison for 6 latest phones (http://www.gsmarena.com/six_way_camera_shootout-review-998p2.php).
[ nQUOTE=TiGer0;46453895]The camera comparison for 6 latest phones (http://www.gsmarena.com/six_way_camera_shootout-review-998p2.php).[/QUOTE]
thanks for the great Link. Seems like the field of view of the note 3 is less than the G2. Not sure what it is compared to the note 2 though.
The angle view of the note 2 is bigger just as the S3 angle view is bigger than the S4.
Source: I've seen it with my own eyes
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That sucks but hopefully the surround shot feature will make up for some of it. Thanks
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The angle view of the note 2 is bigger just as the S3 angle view is bigger than the S4.
Source: I've seen it with my own eyes
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i've owned the xperia z1 for a few weeks now and i absolutely adore it but theres things i don't like with it so i will list my wishes
first off the plastic all around inside the frame i hate it it kills the phone i don't see why it's even there it's pointing out why can't the frame reach over there instead or my wish is replace this plastic with a glass rgb light all around the entire phone when it's off you won't notice it's there but when it's on you do it would be able to light up certain parts pulse and other effects like moving allong the lines or mix colors like red at the top blue at the bottom etc (the rgb light it already has it muffled under something which makes it look bad but from a certain angle it's clear and amazing)
much better screen the best possible screen or amoled with sonys picture engine to make colors more life like best possible black level if a amoled couldn't be used
64 gb internal storage
xenon flash
completely black frame instead of titanium grey
no sony logo at the front and a olephobic coating (no anti shatter proof film)
4 speakers 2 at each side (not bottom but side) to create a surround effect
4.7 inch
as thin bezels as the xperia z or the zl
zzcool said:
i've owned the xperia z1 for a few weeks now and i absolutely adore it but theres things i don't like with it so i will list my wishes
first off the plastic all around inside the frame i hate it it kills the phone i don't see why it's even there it's pointing out why can't the frame reach over there instead or my wish is replace this plastic with a glass rgb light all around the entire phone when it's off you won't notice it's there but when it's on you do it would be able to light up certain parts pulse and other effects like moving allong the lines or mix colors like red at the top blue at the bottom etc (the rgb light it already has it muffled under something which makes it look bad but from a certain angle it's clear and amazing)
much better screen the best possible screen or amoled with sonys picture engine to make colors more life like best possible black level if a amoled couldn't be used
64 gb internal storage
xenon flash
completely black frame instead of titanium grey
no sony logo at the front and a olephobic coating (no anti shatter proof film)
4 speakers 2 at each side (not bottom but side) to create a surround effect
4.7 inch
as thin bezels as the xperia z or the zl
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THe freaking useless Panoramic.
Pressing the shutter will make the camera try to focus, but if you wait for it to fix on a focus point, it's too late.
You have to pag right when you press shutter, while it's trying to focus, so it doesnt focus on **** when youre panning because youll have to do it fast, but not too fast.
I think that you're asking too much I would be pleased that there was an S-Master Audio Chip. I would also like to have xenon flash but it's just impossible with such tiny phone, the capacitor wouldn't fit. But there are people working on capacitors like a piece of paper, too bad that it's not in use yet.
Smaller bezels and a edge-to-edge screen like on G2 would be great but hey, the phone is waterproof! And it houses a large camera sensor, so I think that we can forgive Sony for the bezels.
The thing I would definitely change is most of the software. The fact that Z1 holds on battery almost as same as Z which has a 2300 mAh while Z1 has 3000 mAh, and the fact that LG G2 lasts almost double longer when web surfing is making no sense. Z1 should last at least 8-10 hours of web surfing. And the second thing; camera! Those large bezeles, al those rumours about cameraphone, large senzor, bionz, g lens and all other fancy words and for what? LG G2 and SGS4 can take the same or even better photos in some cases. I think that this is a big issue.
Other than that, everything is perfect Maybe a louder speaker would be great but again, it's a waterproof phone. That speaker is maybe louder than all other speakers on Samsung and LG phones, but it can't reach it's maximum loudness because of water protection on the speaker itself. It's a problem that Sony has been dealing with from the start. And more powerful speaker requires more space and stronger amplifier, which drains more battery.
My damn screen and back are all scratched for no reason..... what happened to anti scratch????
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stealthj said:
My damn screen and back are all scratched for no reason..... what happened to anti scratch????
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There is a screen-guard both on front and back glass. It's not scratch-resistant. You can take it off but you'll lose SONY logo. And what happened? You didn't take care for your phone enough. I never put my phone together with anything in my pocket and I'm using a case on my phones so they can't get scratched that easy.
1)I would change the place of usb slot to top so that it could be charged while its in the flip cover.
2)I would add 13MP mode in camera.
3)I would change the flash to xenon flash.
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My damn screen and back are all scratched for no reason..... what happened to anti scratch????
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I never mixed it with keys or anything. And some of these scratches are DEEP, like someone took a screw driver to them or something. Very disappointed. I don't think taking off the film you're talking about would take those deep ones away
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I never mixed it with keys or anything. And some of these scratches are DEEP, like someone took a screw driver to them or something. Very disappointed. I don't think taking off the film you're talking about would take those deep ones away
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How did you manage to do this? Are you sure that these are scratches? Maybe these are cracks; maybe your glass is broken? It wouldn't be the first time that this phone's glass got broken. If you keep it in your pants pocket it's very likely for the screen to get cracked when you sit down.
I have a 3 years old Xperia X10, without any scratch-protection and I don't have a single scratch. I dropped it hundreds of times but no scratch. So I don't get how you managed to scratch it. Maybe you're dealing with cracked glass.
z1
nothing to change, z1 have perfect design and most beautifull phone in the market. great cam for who to know how to use ..
Things to improve:
SCREEN:
1. make the front glass and back glass themselves shatter proof, scratch resistant and with oleophobic coating to make the front film ONLY optional.
2. don't make the film a mandatory thing, don't ship the units with it on.
3. do not print "sony" logo and any other logo on the front film - it's a cheap decision. either engrave it on the front glass itself or don't engrave it at all on the front.
4. 5.2 inch FHD highest quality IPS LCD available - dramatically improve the screen quality, especially the viewing angles to AT LEAST match the htc one/iphone 5s viewing angles. g2, iphone 5s and htc one screens are more impressive overall imo - all are higher quality IPS. i think that viewing angles are necessary for some and for others not. it's surely not good for a company to neglect those who care for viewing angles. i don't mean that the z1 screen is bad. i mean that higher quality IPS is the most balanced display and by that all users AND reviewers will be pleased because it's good in natural colors and it's good in viewing angles as opposed to the z1 screen - good in natural colors but bad in viewing angles.
5. gloves mode.
DESIGN:
1. consider all aluminum back and sides. less fragile then glass. i would say all sapphire design but the material still too expensive.
SOUND:
1. louder speaker or 2 speakers for a fuller and louder sound if possible.
2. higher quality audio - dedicated chip.
STORAGE:
1. 32gb as standard.
CAMERA:
1. better image processing to reduce noise.
2. OIS.
3. 4K ready.
4. dual LED.
OTHER:
1. IR blaster.
Things to improve:
SCREEN:
1. make the front glass and back glass themselves shatter proof, scratch resistant and with oleophobic coating to make the front film ONLY optional.
2. don't make the film a mandatory thing, don't ship the units with it on. if possible, make it also with "self healing" like in the LG g flex.
3. do not print "sony" logo and any other logo on the front film - it's a cheap decision. either engrave it on the front glass itself or don't engrave it at all on the front.
4. 5.2 inch FHD highest quality IPS LCD available - dramatically improve the screen quality, especially the viewing angles to AT LEAST match the htc one/iphone 5s viewing angles. g2, iphone 5s and htc one screens are more impressive overall imo - all are higher quality IPS. i think that viewing angles are necessary for some and for others not. it's surely not good for a company to neglect those who care for viewing angles. i don't mean that the z1 screen is bad. i mean that higher quality IPS is the most balanced display and by that all users AND reviewers will be pleased because it's good in natural colors and it's good in viewing angles as opposed to the z1 screen - good in natural colors but bad in viewing angles.
5. gloves mode.
DESIGN:
1. consider all aluminum back and sides. less fragile then glass. i would say all sapphire design but the material still too expensive.
SOUND:
1. louder speaker or 2 speakers for a fuller and louder sound if possible.
2. higher quality audio - dedicated chip.
STORAGE:
1. internal 32gb as standard.
CAMERA:
1. better image processing to reduce noise.
2. OIS.
3. 4K ready.
4. dual LED.
OTHER:
1. IR blaster.
More on board memory 16Gb of which 11.72Gb is user memory is not enough especially as you cannot run apps from the SD card
Camera should have a more resolutions in manual mode ie something above 8Mp in Widescreen mode would have been nice.
I would like to think that Sony can add camera resolution options with software, along with improving on the noise reduction.
Better codec support out the box, I know that we can install MX Player, but still with only 16Gb onboard every Meg counts!!
Improve the screen, as thanks to the tariff I am on with Vodafone, I get SkySports and watching football included on my 4G plan...
charging solar panel, ir blaster, removable battery, teamaker, time transpoter, oh yeah and walk the dog, okay sony lol. love my z1 as is anyways.
joecool666 said:
charging solar panel, ir blaster, removable battery, teamaker, time transpoter, oh yeah and walk the dog, okay sony lol. love my z1 as is anyways.
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Lol, the last one with the dog made me laugh But there's no need for sarcasm. Some wishes are exaggerated, but there actually is a lot room for improvements. While there's no special need for hardware improvements, there are a lot software improvements which should be done in 4.3 or 4.4 KitKat updates.
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Lol, the last one with the dog made me laugh But there's no need for sarcasm. Some wishes are exaggerated, but there actually is a lot room for improvements. While there's no special need for hardware improvements, there are a lot software improvements which should be done in 4.3 or 4.4 KitKat updates.
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i do agree with you no sarcasm was intended just in a good mood. z1 does need more mods and performance improvements as with all flagship devices.but still a cool phone,:good:
I'm really happy with the Z1. If I could change some things, it would only be two features:
- make the housing smaller (similar to the Xperia ZL)
- use WindowsPhone instead of Android (Android is okay, but WP is clearly the better system)
Future lottery numbers!
Wp better? That must be a joke, in my eyes wp is dead.
Anyways all I would love to change is: slightly bigger screen, 32/64gb built in space & z ultra alike screen. Other than that this phone is amazing.
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I'm really happy with the Z1. If I could change some things, it would only be two features:
- make the housing smaller (similar to the Xperia ZL)
- use WindowsPhone instead of Android (Android is okay, but WP is clearly the better system)
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The only advantage of WP over Android is it's smoothness. And with Snapdragon 800 the Android is fast and smooth like iOS and WP on Xperia Z1 so there's not a single reason to put WP while Android is way better in every aspect. I do really like some Lumias but I would never buy any of them while WP is on it.
I've done some real-life tests of the HDR function, which has been very good on my Galaxy S5. Below are the S5 vs. the Z5. On the S5, HDR is easy; on the Z5, Superior Auto doesn't have HDR, but there's an HDR setting in Manual mode. The best I could get with the Z5 still looks (to me) worse than the S5, because you can see less detail, even if there's more light (you can brighten the S5 pics if you want, but you can't extract more detail out of an overexposed scene).
In the lamp+TV scene, look at the sine-wave like detail on the lamp cover. The S5 shows it without problem; on the Z5, you can barely see it if you zoom in, due to overexposure.
In the food + window scene, the Galaxy S5 wins again. The detail in the food plate is better, the spoon is less overexposed, and the foliage in the upper left corner is also better exposed.
Notes
1. Originals can be found in my Flickr album comparing the Xperia Z5 vs. Galaxy S5 camera performance.
2. Also, keep in mind this is a previous generation Galaxy S5. The S6 probably has even better picture quality.
3. The Z5 photos are badly distorted in the corners - the food plate looks oval, and the lap cover looks elongated too. Read more in the Z5 distortion thread.