【android m 6.0】everything you want about it. Comments, suggestion and expectations.
No more speculations or debates of Android m, if it would be coming to our beloved zf2. Asus has now officially announced its arrival to our Zenny's.
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Post anything you want here as to what you expect from the upcoming os upgrade or any suggestions you might think that could be improved basing on your personal user experience. And hopefully Asus will read this thread and include any of your comments and suggestions.
So feel free to voice out any of your ideas even your craziest wacky out of this world suggestions are welcome here.
There is a very big possibility that android m coming to our zf2 is 64bit version basing on a asus moderators reply on zenfone 5 forum.
Cheers
@ASUS_Khang may this thread be a guide to your hq and devs so they would know what Asus fans really wants on the upcoming os upgrade. Can I get your support on this thread that in some way suggestions here would reach hq?? Not to pressure you or anything but only if you could relay, if not it's OK..... I'll try to repost each and every suggestion here via screenshot on zentalk.
So fire it up guys.........
I'll start with my personal suggestion
1.) os should be 64bit
2.) provide option for a dark and light ui
3.) make a on/off option for quick charge. As having quick charge always on till 70 percent will hasten the battery lifespan due to massive heat it general.
I'd like to see a "Google Play Edition" type ROM from ASUS, without ZenUI, etc. I miss my old Nexus 4 and that's the reason I've moved to Cyanogenmod on my ZF2. I know that will _never_ happen, but you asked us to post our "craziest wacky out of this world suggestions"
m3t4lw01f said:
I'd like to see a "Google Play Edition" type ROM from ASUS, without ZenUI, etc. I miss my old Nexus 4 and that's the reason I've moved to Cyanogenmod on my ZF2. I know that will _never_ happen, but you asked us to post our "craziest wacky out of this world suggestions"
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Me likey....lol
Get use of marshmallow multiwidow code or at least keep it available via developer settings.
More options for themes app, allow to change only status bar, ui widgets, icons.
Open Asus Cover api so developers could add new apps to cover lock screen.
Make dpi lower or add option to change it from settings (or developer settings?)
Doze function.
Anything close to real Android would be great... I would like to have the stock notification bar with quick options, I hate ASUS notification bar.
Also, ASUS apps would be optional and not hard implement on the firmware, I don't like to see ZenMotion, Asus Cover, Easy Mode, etc on my settings page, custom icons on this page also dislike me, they should not be mixed with the default Android settings.
No worries. This is a good thread to start. We'd love to work with developers and enthusiasts to make this experience the best it can be (For you guys AND ASUS ). Your suggestions will help and I will notify our team to follow this thread very closely. :highfive:
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livewire168 said:
I'll start with my personal suggestion
1.) os should be 64bit
2.) provide option for a dark and light ui
3.) make a on/off option for quick charge. As having quick charge always on till 70 percent will hasten the battery lifespan due to massive heat it general.
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1. Not sure about this.
2. I've brought this up with the team already and they are considering it given that we've got dark/light options for messaging and dialer
3. Interesting idea
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m3t4lw01f said:
I'd like to see a "Google Play Edition" type ROM from ASUS, without ZenUI, etc. I miss my old Nexus 4 and that's the reason I've moved to Cyanogenmod on my ZF2. I know that will _never_ happen, but you asked us to post our "craziest wacky out of this world suggestions"
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There was a discussion about this two months ago why a GPE phone is more of a hassle than it's worth. There's been discussion about opening up code for developers to mess around with, and possibly even a Developer Edition image that anyone can mess around with, but it's only at a conceptual stage at this point.
1. There should be material dark design ui overhaul... The dark colours are just black in ur theming provided apps(messaging, dialer)
2. Allow the theme engine to have more control over system like in cyanogenmod, miui .... Give it the ability to theme apps , change ringtones ,sound , boot animation
3. Allow root , maybe
4. Give option for choosing navigation buttons like in one plus
5. Make battery usage optimized and performance decent enough to avoid stutters
6. STAY AWESOME ....
Increase battery life and remove the bloat
ASUS_Khang said:
There was a discussion about this two months ago why a GPE phone is more of a hassle than it's worth. There's been discussion about opening up code for developers to mess around with, and possibly even a Developer Edition image that anyone can mess around with, but it's only at a conceptual stage at this point.
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That would be cool to see. I'm a happy CM user, so I don't need to see it, but I'm willing to bet the development community would love having it.
Just cosmetic changes, do not cause the revolution, because ze551ml is almost perfect device!
!!IS ALMOST PERFECT!!
So don't ruin that. Maybe some changes with camera?
By the way could Zenny 3 be a bit weatherproof please?
I have to make some comments because there is a lot of confusion about 64bit and 32bit.
Nowadays CPUs use virtual memory model that is then translated to physical memory. When your system has 4Gbytes of physical memory the Virtual will be even bigger and in order to address more than 4Gbytes of memory you need more than 32 bits (2 power 32).
Second thing that you need in order to address 4Gbytes is a 64bit OS. The memory management of the OS has to use 64bit addresses. ( a PC with 4Gbyte RAM and 32bit windows can address only 3.2Gbytes of memory). Android 5 in Zenfone 2 is 64bit, otherwise it wouldn't be able to "see" 4Gbytes.
Running 64bit apps is optional , a 64bit OS can handle both 32bit apps and 64bit apps at the same time.
The Picture/comment on the 1st post is probably about Zenfone 4 which uses Intel Atom Z2520 x86 CPU. Zenfone 2 uses either Intel Atom Z3580 or
Intel Atom Z3560 , both amd64 instuction set CPUs.
Cheers.
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Second thing that you need in order to address 4Gbytes is a 64bit OS. The memory management of the OS has to use 64bit addresses. ( a PC with 4Gbyte RAM and 32bit windows can address only 3.2Gbytes of memory). Android 5 in Zenfone 2 is 64bit, otherwise it wouldn't be able to "see" 4Gbytes.
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Yes, exactly. Our phones are running a 64-bit OS, in that the Linux kernel is 64-bit.
Code:
[email protected]:/ $ uname -m
x86_64
It is possibly to copy over 64-bit Linux x86-64 binaries and (assuming libraries are handled properly) run them without any problem. For example, I built static dropbear and rsync binaries to use in Android, and can run an x86_64 chroot Linux environment.
Having said that, stuff under /system, such as libraries and binaries are all built for 32-bit. This isn't a big deal, as long as none of those programs need to address more than 4GB of memory. In fact, 32-bit binaries may be smaller and faster in many cases than 64-bit ones.
Maybe there is something, such as access to more CPU registers, that would benefit things being built natively for 64-bit, but my guess is that any performance gain would be minimal. When phones with more than 4GB of RAM come out, then I think having a 64-bit userspace will be important, but until then I can't get excited about it.
Just one suggest, concerning Asus PClink.
The client software (on PC) is dependant of Windows... No Alternative fort MacOS & Linux.
I've tried with Wine, Crossover, VirtualBox (Windows) , PC link not working at all.
With VMWare (Windows), it work, but with many problems (many colors/lines problems).
So please, Asus have to do something about interoperability !
Edit : maybe an other idea, for game developers, when Vulkan API (OpenGL/OpenGL ES successor) will be available (need SOC compatible OpenGL ES 3.1 and Zenfone 2 have it !), it will be great to implement it, better perf & more energy efficient !
m3t4lw01f said:
I'd like to see a "Google Play Edition" type ROM from ASUS, without ZenUI, etc. I miss my old Nexus 4 and that's the reason I've moved to Cyanogenmod on my ZF2. I know that will _never_ happen, but you asked us to post our "craziest wacky out of this world suggestions"
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AOSP rom from niropa is probably what you are looking for! i mean the closest we can get to to a GPE rom
GaBuzz said:
Increase battery life and remove the bloat
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Every single dang phone that has been released people always cry about battery life. Get over it lol
If they decide to stick to pretty much the same zen ui for the asus launcher, then I have a couple of requests. The current launcher wastes a huge amount of space. I'd like them to lose the text labels on the dock icons and position them lower, like on the Google Now launcher. Also, if you use the search bar widget it, I would like it to be higher and wider. Now it is different than it is in the recent apps screen, and the way it jumps is jarring. However, if Asus insist on keeping the ui looking quite different from AOSP, it would be nice to have an option to switch between the asus settings and notification tray, and the stock android ones. That way, simply switching to android style and using google now launcher would give many users craving the stock android look what they want.
I'd also like more granular control of theme elements and ability to mix up stuff from different themes would be nice, but failing that I would at least like the option to apply the icons from themes/packs without also changing the app drawer button and page indicator.
Being able to choose between the hard keys and soft nav keys would be fantastic, particularly as being non-backlit the hard keys are difficult to use at night.
Hope some of these could be implemented.
Keep em coming guys, ASUS_Khang has already committed that this thread would be monitored closely. Let's fire up the suggestions whole m is still on the development stage for zf2.......
Cheers
I also would like some material animations in stock launcher and other stock ASUS apps.
Improvement in game performance and battery life, that is all that matters.
There are so many launcher available that it is a while that i don't choose my phone depending on the default launcher.
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The kite UI project was created to provide Android users with a beautiful homescreen. It's key features is the coherent minimal design, the access to the most daily functions from the home screen and the smooth jump from it to the different applications.
The kite UI is built off of a pretty simple idea:
You have 2-3 views in every app. Flicking left from the middle view will bring you to the right view and vice versa. While you are in the right view, for instance the 'social' view, you can dig deeper by pressing on a friend. If you want to move backwards in this view all you do is flick right. If you are in the left view you move backwards by flicking left.
Simply put, when you're going deeper within a certain view you move further away from the middle. Moving closer to the middle equals moving backwards until ultimately your on the first 'level' of the view.
Video Teaser: Watch in 720p.
Homescreen example
The 3 'boxes' on the bottom of the screen, which show were you are, also acts like the app launcher. However, depending on which page you are currently viewing it brings up different menus. On the homescreen it brings up all apps while it on the social page brings up apps that are directly related to social medias like twitter, facebook, flickr.
Here are some concept promos.
kite User Interface:
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home
social
web
Bundled applications:
applications & settings
phone
messaging
music
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Latest update first:
*Updated* 2010-12-01 - Video teaser.
Finished the video showcase of the user interface. I'm currently too tired to update the thread or answer PMs and questions on the thread but I will try to get to that on the train to/from school tomorrow.
Video Teaser: Watch in 720p.
Enjoy!
*Updated* 2010-10-20 - Development goes on....
First of all I would like to clarify some things about this project.
Kite UI is not a theme, it is a completely new and unique User Interface. It will be available for Devices with the resolution 480x800 (and up) running Android 2.1 (and up).
We are really appreciative to all the interest that has been shown. However, with all due respect I must say that finding PMs like "can i plz test it" in my inbox is rather annoying.
If you have some serious skills that could be useful in development, feel free to PM me.
Back to the UI then. I recently got a new idea of how the interface should work and I have also altered the views slightly (to the better). This means that some of the pictures in this post is more or less obsolete, even though they still give you a good idea of what it is all about.
I will go into further detail about what is changed in the near future.
Edit:
If this thread is a little scarce on updates don't worry. It is simply because what is currently going on "behind the scenes" is more or less boring dev stuff.
*Updated* 2010-09-28 - Development has started.
Alright, so we have now started the actual developing of the UI. We are however, still in need of a few more coders for this project. Specifically coders with experience within programming on the Android Home API. To apply for the team, simply send me a PM.
As far as testers go we do have a test leader, but we have yet to decide who else is going to be on the testing team.
Audio and additional graphics designers are not needed at the time being, but might be asked to join in the future.
*Updated* 2010-09-26 - Rewritten presentation, list removed from post.
And yes, I got some inspiration from the HTC1 concept but this idea wasn't initiated by it. What was inspired by the HTC1 concept was the implementation of Flickr pics in the friend stream and how the clock and weather was done as one single widget. However I think we all can agree the end result of my clock look almost nothing like the original HTC1.
I stated this a couple of posts ahead but I guess I should've written this in the original post.
*Updated* 2010-09-20 - Teaser Promos.
If you are on the list of devs (language excluded) expect to be notified by PM sometime this week.
*Updated* 2010-09-17 - Ratio Changes, Redone art and New art.
Alright, I got some explaining to do so I'll go right ahead. I was supposed to look into the actuall developing of the UI at the end of August, but unfortunately I didn't. I'm not going to go into detail about why but it was a mix of school and prolonged work which left me with very little spare time to do much else.
Anyway, enough with the excuses. The last couple of days I've been doing some changes to the concept art. For some (stupid) reason I decided to use a resolution of 640x960px when this was first started, however that is now changed to 480x800 (hdpi). When I changed the ratio I also did some minor changes to all views, some was completely redone and some new where added.
This project is however still in concept art stage. Other than the ratio changes and some new views - done the last couple of days - the development has been at a complete standstill.
However this is about to change. Even though I go to college and study pretty much I will from now on focus my spare time on this. The list below has been modified with some new interesting people but to make sure the team doesn't get too big I will try to make it shorter in the following days.
Developers will be picked based on experience and how much time you can spare in a week.
Testers will be chosen based on devices, spare time and when they 'signed up' and if more testers are needed then we will work our way down the list. This means that if you are on the list you are not yet guaranteed to be on the team.
uhm..I very like this idea.....
pm me if you want someone
That weather/clock widget is amazing.
Interesting concept. Wish I had some skills to help you.
Bump! *updated* 2010-07-31
New Screens and more specifik descriptions of the project. I thought I might have been a bit unclear the first time...
I could help with some of the coding. I'm not a android dev god, but i can do some decent coding, and if i don't know how to do it i'll find out
If i can join i'll be ready to work on saturday, because i'm on vacation until then
I like the silky smooth white look you're going for, I love designing UI's as well
This looks epic, I'd be glad to beta test when that time comes. Unfortunately, I have no coding skill at all (I had meant to start learning Java over the summer but I've been lazy), but again, this looks promising, and a great way to keep Android fresh for older phones that won't get official updates to Eclair or FroYo (let along Gingerbread/3.0). Excellent graphic design.
I'm wouldn't be able to build it... but I'd sure be glad to give feedback/test it all
WOW! i really like this it's very nice hopefully it's fast 2
i would rly like to test it if it's in beta fase.
Will test when ready for testing. Sign me up.
Wow looks good. Wish I had coding skills! Would love to test this
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Sign me up for testing!
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Liquidice said:
I've recently been working on some simple designs for a Coherent User Interface for Android and I thought I'd start with explaining why I first decided to start with my sketches for this project for a UI.
(Should you not be interested in why - just scroll down to the /// mark and read about/look at the interface as of yet)
The first time I used an Android phone for more than 5 minutes was earlier this summer. The first thing I realised was that I liked the phone itself, which was my brothers htc Hero, but I also liked the feature of SenseUI. The apps being accessible trough widgets 'on the homescreen' rather than trough a list of apps with respective icons (like the iphone) was the key benefit for me.
However something bothered me with the SenseUI. First of I dont like the design of the greyish 'console' on the bottom of the screen and I would much rather have a design that fits the background picture better. I must however say that I respect the customization abilities, but unfortunately the problem with this feature is that it looks like those widgets where put in last minute without any respect for the rest of the UI - it doesn't feel cohesive.
Enough complaining. To the point!
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I wanted a UI with a simplistic design that makes the beautiful background picture fit perfectly with everything else that I might interact with. I also wanted to keep the benefit of having everything accessible from the homescreen (rather than forcing me to an ugly app list).
So the challenge here was to incorporate the most daily functions with the homescreen and its background picture and make everything look cohesive and thought trough, rather than last minute, while keeping a simplistic yet beautiful design.
I'm calling this project kiteUI to begin with. The UI is much like SenseUI in the way that you swipe back and forth between pages, however the pages are dedicated to the most daily uses in order to maintain that consistant look.
This overview pic shows how the 'pages' relate to eachother
Here are the screenshots with descriptions for the current graphics.
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Home
Web
Search
Social
Apps
Settings
The apps/games/settings list (lvl2) is not necessarily a part of the UI itself. It's rather a replacement for the current standard app list. The important thing about this project is to maintain that coherent look all throught the usual apps, wether it is the UI itself or a complimentary app list or phone app.
However, the switch from the kiteUI to the app list, or any other standard app for that matter, should feel as natural as when swiping back and forth between the pages (lvl1, see overview pic).
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This is very early on in the project though so there's obviously going to be some major bumps on the road.
1st - I will not use an Android phone 'for real' until the middle of August. Untill then the android emulator will be more than fine.
2nd - My skills are pretty much limited to graphic design and this is why I'm reaching out to coders, programmers, cookers (even beta testers, not yet though) that might find this interesting.
Programmers/Coders - Will take on the challenge of making the UI (or rather the widgets) itself and the new style app list.
Cookers - Will help make the ROM that uses the latest Android version with the kiteUI, app list, and all the reskinned standard apps.
I myself will do the designs for the UI and all the app list but also the reskinning of all the standard apps (and probably more).
I do not think this has to be so radical that we create a program from nothing. As I said I'm no programmer but I do believe that you could base the main kiteUI off of the standard Android interface source code but with obviously different layouts, graphics, animations and actions.
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Do you find this interesting? Do you want to be a part of this? Do you have any skills that might come in handy?
Then send me a PM or feel free to share your opinions and thoughts below.
Thanks!
*updated* 2010-07-31
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Ill cook it in. Pm me a link, and ill work my magic on it. I can theme it, cook it in, and manipulate stuff.
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Awesome concept...
Hope this one is going to make it
Would love to test, too
Che123 said:
Awesome concept...
Hope this one is going to make it
Would love to test, too
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It will make it. If i cook it into jdfroyo, it should make it.
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It will make it. If i cook it into jdfroyo, it should make it.
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I hope so.
Unfortunally I have seen many nice concepts here, which never were impemented
*updated* 2010-08-02
Thats very true - most concepts, no matter what they concern, never make it to reality. However I'm willing to put alot of effort into this project. As you can see my concept art are pretty much final and already covers the main features.
Whats left other than finalizing the rest of the concept art is saving the "screenies" as resource pngs (or similiar type) and that's the easies part of it all.
For obvious reasons though, I'm not willing to put my whole spare time into this unless I know I've got some help on the other parts of this project. However since I now know that we have a programmer, cooker and some beta testers onboard I'm going to keep going with the 'concept art'. It's good to know that this is going somewhere.
For the time being I must however ask for a little patience. I quit my summer job at the end of this week and from that time on I'm pretty much free every evening.
From now on I'm going to make a list of the people willing to help out on this project in the original thread post and update it as often as possible. As soon as your help is needed you will me PM'd. To 'sign up' express your interest below...
I know i stated this before, bit i am good at cooking roms. I can also do some themeing, and some programming if need be. Pm anytime if need be
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nice im tester
I have an galaxy spica i5700 samdroid mod 800mhz mdpi 32x480 android 2.1-update1
i you have a working apk plz pm me.
now that i got a chance to play with wp7 oon the hd2, i find the os boring. i do say thats it is and is not like the old winmo.
not the same because the ui is different.
seems the same because when you open the windows folder, it takes a while to load.
os seems pretty fast but how well does it do with lots of apps being loaded? im not too fond of the tile interface and the straight in line icon/apps. seems that if you have a lot of apps loaded, the single list will just get longer and that just looks dumb.
not looking for fight or argument, just what are your thoughts are with wp7 running on your hd2. i personally wouldnt but a wp7 phone as of now.
i do think the hd2 is awsome because we can run several os's.
Very boring, but that's my opinion
Its very basic because its very young.
M$ have said that they are working on allot more user customization. Stuff like the apps page will obviously be changeable at some point, hopefully in next update, if not its plain retarded.
Im currently dual booting WP7 with Android as I cant see me having it as my daily driver any time soon.
PS. This is a WP7 discussion so it should have gone in the WP7 general forum.
Ya I was not very pleased with M$ for some silly reason picking the horrible tile BS. I mean you want to have something nice looks good hell the whole 6.5.X base 29XXX was stable.
But the biggest thing M$ did was drop the legacy support and dumping CE now they can build it based on their own guideline which they outlined for WM7 spec, kinda like stole the play from Apple.
Would you want something like this?
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This is WM7 on HD7, who would you take this?
Sorry M$ you did epic fail on building main screen user env. Maybe HTC should have stepped up and provided SenseUI over the tile BS and not make Sense dock though settings.
At the moment?????? Yes...It's very clean and user friendly but it's very boring... i switched to Android before 1 week until something new will come out!
only opinions....
for me this is the FIRST wp7 rom on hd2 and is a lot more functional than the android first ones....
the interface can be boring using it for a long time, ok, the same with apple...but i'm sure HTC and XDA can do a better work on the UI, hoping in MS update too..
i'm still of the opinion that is good for daily use. for me the essentials are phonebook, sms, email (very good), internet (android better for now, waiting for opera)
To me the biggest problem is the limitation of the UI.
Okay, maybe it can be funny the first 20 Minutes you used it, but after that????
I'm a big fan of personalization. and ok let be clear to me changing the color from Green to blue or orange isn't a personalization. I'm just missing Sense, (the big force of HTC)
To be honest except the Hardware look what is the different now between Samsung/HTC/LG/... WP7 versions? Yeah right no different.
I know everyone will saying it's new.... Yeah it is but at the other side, Windows don't tolerate that 3th users changed the UI. So, this means no Sense
Apart the fact it's running fast and stable. Yeah it border you after 20 Min.
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I'm a big fan of personalization. and ok let be clear to me changing the color from Green to blue or orange isn't a personalization.
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LOL now that made me laugh, as I been saying long before WM7 even came out M$ sure thinks users are retarded or something as they designed this UI for 5years old? Its like they keep digging the hole bigger and bigger while being in it. I mean WTF they post to compete with AOSP and iOS with BS like that?
"I am WM7 look I have 4-5 tiles that moves, keep looking at it as it will move, oops BSOD" lol
Windows 6.5 was 100 times better in my opinion, and that even sucked. Long live android.
i have to disagree with everyone i suppose.
I dont think wp7 (not wm7) boring at all. In fact i think Android is very boring and outdated. I mean wm6.5 and Android just feel from ancient history when compared with wp7. I have wp7 more than a week and certainly not's boring. Its way smoother than Android. But i mean WAY WAY... smoother.
metro
actually it looks awesome on my omnia 7, less so on my hd2 coz of the washed out colours. I think its a great alternative os look. Im looking forward to folders coz the scrolling list of programs is getting to be a pain. love the sharp frill free magazine look which seems very 2011, all those rounded icons and faux shine fade of other ossers remind me of vista. plus its quite a popular look when yours eyes arent as sharp as a 20 something.
I dont bash other os.s. when youre locked into a 2 year contract people get quite attached and defensive of their phones.
I love the feel of wp7 compared to android. For everyday use of texting and calling I prefer it, but for more app intensive stuff I dual boot android. The UI of wp7 just works.
I think for thinkerers like most people here ANY OS that you can not pull down and build up ten times daily will be borring to us. Our phones have become our major toys. Before I moved over to WP7, I was flashing MDJ's Gingerbread every day, modding the battery icons and such stuffs. I can not do most of that with WP7 and it is a bit annoying.
But I think WP7 as it is now is already much more functional for what really matter in a phone, sms, email, contacts, social networking than IOS and android. The mostly text-based interface is clean, fast and readable. I have used all the rest, I think this is the best.
i like it. Actually all my phones and roms i used since wm5 and android i always prefered the closest to stock roms. I dont like funny things, collorful icons or "amazing" backgrounds...i want responsiveness, pratical and easy to use UI. No lags or bugs because i ****ed all the UI with random customizations.
And IMHO the problem with ppl saying its boring its because we dont have too many apps yet (or at least really useful apps) that uses tiles at their maximum potencial. So instead of dynamic icons on home screen you end up "watching" big blue squares or whatever is your color profile. Tiles is like widgets but better. One of the things ppl like android is because of the widgets. Afaik you cant do that on iphone (which is a REALLY boring device).
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Can't really complain much knowing well WP7 came out what 2-3 months ago (officially not the betas). Honestly I love it & this is coming from someone who went from an iPhone 2G/3G/3GS to a HD2. Yeah is missing tons of features that both Android/iOS have (background apps, copy/paste/tethering you get the picture). But so far I love it next phone I buy will most likely have WP7 on it
Found it boring at first but once you actually get involved with some of the non stock apps then it gets interesting.
I much prefer the way the UI works to Android although, as others have said, more customisation would be good.
Am now dual booting WP7 with Android (mainly for Wi-Fi tethering) but am using WP7 as my daily OS.
My first thoughts on wp7 were indeed along the lines of it being boring or suchlike, but now I've used it as my main phone for a week or so I'm liking it more and more, and definitely more than I thought I would like it.
On the whole, it works very nicely compared with winmo or android. Admittedly the androind nand installs were TONS better than the SD versions but wp7 just feels clean and uncluttered, and normally I like clutter.
The weirdest thing is that the thing I loved most about winmo (the ability to tinker as much as I wanted) is actually something I'm mostly not missing as this os just does a good job with a few exceptions.
I love that the AD2P or whatever it's called works really well with bluetooth, the wifi doesn't eat the battery alive, and things like that.
What has surprised me most is the fact that while I had zillions of app shortcuts on android & winmo, I currently have 24 tiles. That sounds a lot, but it flicks so easily & smoothly through that it's barely like you have to do anything. That's a mix of apps/contacts/settings/and favourite pages. It's made me realise that most of those countless app shortcuts I used to have just mostly never got used in reality.
BUT, there are things that drive me ****ing nuts with wp7. Maybe they can't be done yet, or maybe they can and I just don't know how...
Font sizes - on emails screen. It's WAY too big. I'm not a dribbling imbecile so I can read a font smaller than 22point or whatever it might be. I want to change it.
Email settings - haven't yet found one for data size/download sizes per message. Sure it must be in there though.
Contacts - you should be able to customise the display of them. The layout is stupid as you get big font for the names but tiny for the numbers. If you're in the car it's impossible to read what the number is against a contact for instance.
Apps - not enough, but we all knew that would be the case.
Tiles - not a big issue but it would kinda be nice if you could vary the size of them and the style a little. I'm not talking full on eye candy but a little extra visual bling wouldn't kill it.
The multitask thing. I want a call recorder and I understand it's impossible because of no multitasking. That's not good enough, and it's annoying to close my music playing while I go do something else.
Sounds a lot but mostly they're minor gripes and it's proving to be way better than I actually remotely thought it would be.
I'm hoping in due course that the uber clever tefal heads and boffins on here will be able to make it look a little prettier and address some minor issues, but it's doing well for such a new player I think.
I know WP7 is very new and look at Apple with the Iphone, no bluetooth, crappy camera etc when it first came out. WP7 for me has richer and more useful applications. I mean, flicking from page to page for BBC Mobile or ITN app is very pleasing and for me, better than Android.
I think what everyone is looking for is more customization. Not just changing colour of the panel but adding your own patterns, background image throughout and not just boring black or white. For me I would love folder options in applications layout and the ability to choose folder graphics or pictures. End call button being more big and bold, better internet explorer, damn is that just pants. I would also love more usability with press and hold user interface as well. Adding another layout than just panes, swipe right for applications but also swipe again for widgets so you can truly customise.
i think now Android has the edge but in time, if Microsoft listens to what people actually want then WP7 will be the phone to have.
I personally love it, but I am a 2 years Xbox live gold member so I am slightly biased in that direction.
Out of all 3 OSes I have used, WP7 has the most consistent UI across all of them, It's minimalistic without being condescending and is very robust out of the box.
Android I needed an alarm clock and alternate music player and Windows Mobile was even worse.
Don't get me wrong though, Gingerbread was awesome and I loved GTX Sense on my WM6.5.
It all comes down to preference really. Windows Mobile for tweakability, Android for updatability and adaptability; and Windows Phone for consistency, gaming and eye candy.
in it's current form is simple and a little bit boring.
Since SE has confirmed ICS update for the arc/arc S, I think it is a good idea to discuss about the appearance of the firmware.
Personally, I'd like most things to be left as stock with some touches there and here to distinguish it from other ICS builds.
What do you think?
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If it's really true, I'm very excitedly happy. Yay for stock Android
- New timescape version (might include timescape for application)
- Apps & Widget manager
- New music players
- More bloatwares
- Hopefully camera will be fixed
- System running faster
what happen to the camera?
Chances are it will come with the same old tired S.E U.I, which isn't really an issue as that can easily be changed.
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Chances are it will come with the same old tired S.E U.I, which isn't really an issue as that can easily be changed.
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I hope we do manage to get it rooted with locked bootloaders because after that, making it stock is easy
-Camera compression
-Shortcuts for notification site, to add music player, power control shortcuts
-New home launcher...
-better support for liveview
-wi fi connection
-faster scrolling in menu, switch from first to last app. list faster.like moving finger on dots beyond apps
-"xBass" pls. make this > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106197 I'd appreciate it, really. f* xloud, it doesnt change max loudness.
I don't think SE is that dumb to change the whole appearance of ICS lol..
why would they even do that? maybe a little touch to make it more attractive than the others but why would they make it into a TS UI? LOL makes no sense to me as the holographic engine of the ICS FW is so damn awesome & sleek :O
I think it would be great if sony put its touch in the interface while keeping it ICS
look in general.
Camera compression is the only adjustment I care about. Make it better or lose a customer
Full blown SE customization.
Stock android is boring (at least for me)
- Hardware accelerated graphics -> smooth, lag-free scrolling and navigation !
Never in my days will I understand anyone who thinks the left is better UI design than the right >.< But each to their own I guess
I like se one over stock gingerbread .but ice cream?iam not sure
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I hope and think SE will combine their amazing UI design skills
with ICS.
ICS is not so beautiful everywhere however I think - I really do! - that some ICS UI elements are actually inspired by SE.
SE has the best UI on smartphones IMO.
I like ICS home launcher, but I also like SE's home launcher, so I hope to have the functionality of SE Home launcher with the stock launcher + SE theme.
I like some of SE functionality also like Facebook inside Xperia.
but there's things I hate, SE must, and must and MUST do something regarding it...
1- the added pre-installed apps I hope SE make them optional, these are forced to be in the phone even if the user doesn't want them... yeah make them already pre-installed but don't make them system apps so we can remove what ever we want to remove.
2- The Home launcher & browser both should be Hardware accelerated, and Home launcher should be loaded in Memory all the time, and make the browser have this option also.
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1- the added pre-installed apps I hope SE make them optional, these are forced to be in the phone even if the user doesn't want them... yeah make them already pre-installed but don't make them system apps so we can remove what ever we want to remove.
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One of ics new features is disabling any system app so it looks like we won't have an issue
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Never in my days will I understand anyone who thinks the left is better UI design than the right >.< But each to their own I guess
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Erm, you've got to be joking?!! The Google ICS image on the right looks like a cluttered, cramped and confusing mess. The SE image on the left is clear and simple. Also look at that pointless big grey bar at the bottom of the screen on ICS - what an absolute waste of screen space.
I also absolutely hate the way ICS on the Galaxy Nexus wastes screen space for those pointless software Android buttons. Slimline tactile buttons as on the Xperias are a superior solution.
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Since SE has confirmed ICS update for the arc/arc S, I think it is a good idea to discuss about the appearance of the firmware.
Personally, I'd like most things to be left as stock with some touches there and here to distinguish it from other ICS builds.
What do you think?
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I'm not sure whether you can already do this or not in ICS, but I think there should be a way to add labels to pages in your app tray. I see Google has added tabs for "Apps" and "Widgets", but I think this is a pointless change. I don't need a Widget tab, nor do I want an Android Market tab (it's there for no other reason than Goog£€ making sure to promote its ridiculous 30% cut on app sales). What I would like is the ability to create custom tabs to group my apps (or, alternatively, the ability to create folders) in the app tray. Ironically, Google have moved to SE-style side scrolling for apps, but with custom tabs vertical scrolling would actually look better!
I would also like companies like SE to neuter Google's power a bit more. I simply do not trust Google (I think it is becoming too big, powerful and "big brother" like) and would like SE to add features such as the making it more configurable what data Google receive, and reduce the dependency on Google services.
I also wish SE would stop forcing Facebook on users, and allow users to remove the Facebook app and all Facebook features - not only is the Facebook app badly written and a CPU and battery hog (which runs in the background even if you sign out), Facebook is another company that I do not trust at all.
I have to agree with Paul. I'm not a big fan of the ICS UI. I particularly don't care for the soft buttons at the bottom of the screen. I prefer a clean, simple look. Albiet I haven't used a true ICS ROM, but I have flashed ICS themed ROMS and don't like it all. Call me a creature of habit, but I have no plans of installing ICS when it's finally released.
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I forget to say,
1- Add support for USB-OTG Mass Storage, and please for any newer phones, even if you will add large internal memory ( like 16GB ) add also a microSD slot, it's a must, and AFAIK missing the microSD will mean no USB-OTG Mass Storage...
2- Support WiFi Direct
I don't know if you're aware, but when ICS comes to the arc, or any other device with buttons, the soft buttons are disabled and it functions as normal.
Also the ICS themes for 2.3 are not at all a fair indication of the user experience. Most of the joy of ICS is its the first version of android with some degree of descent UI consistency.
I agree, the SE overlay is the best android 2.3 interface around. But android 2.3 UI sucked, it was a mess of aged, inconsistent graphics design. Sony took it and built an aged looking but more consistent UI design. Google have actually gone and made a stock UI in ICS that looks stylish enough to stand out in this world of simple, modern interface design.
But as I said, each to their own I guess I for one will be updating as soon as possible, ICS brings so many great new features to the table, as long as Sony doesn't spoil them, I think it's going to be a great update
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Wishlist for the Official Sony Lollipop Update
A few days ago, i did post a thread on the general forum for the Z2, about what the others and I wished to be added/changed in the coming Sony lollipop update. The thread did become a bit popular and many users did came with opinions and thoughts about what could be added/changed in the next update. Therefor I felt that i want to do the same in the Sony-Cross-device forum, because i wanted to hear different opinions from several Xperia device users. So please welcome me
English is not my native language, so please ignore any sort of mistakes in grammars or anything related
What follows of text isn´t confirmed and just predicts and thoughts regarding what i want from Sony in the Lollipop update. Please take this as a wishlist and don´t be negative when judging. Please read the whole post before commenting or taking any type of action. Okay folks, then let´s begin the journey!
Fluid and smooth User interface [UI] with theming
As people have seen, the Xperia Z2 is running kitkat with UI-theming from Sony on top. We have seen examples of android phones that haven´t the opportunity to hold the spirit of the fluid UI which leads to slow operations and people smashing phones [Dont take my word for it ] because of OEM´s doing "Heavy-theming". But then the questions is: Why theming? Because theming allows to take customization to a whole new level. And Sony has done a really great job here. But what i want/wish from Sony is to provide an update which presents an enhanced fluid UI.
Design
In the past few months websites, designs, games, applications etc are all affected by the new "wave" which is the so called "Material Design". And Google came with a remarkably revolutionary idea. As the technology develops, the design factor are also in development and growths as time goes. The Material design is basically based on flat UI while focusing mainly on animations. But before the Material design took the spotlights, some OEM´s did have examples of what UI looks alike. LG´s UI and Samsung have done a really great job in this sector. Look at screenshots/attachment:
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I actually love these UI´s and I badly want Sony to implement this "Flatness" in their UI and get some "Material Design" inspiration implemented in their UI. So Sony please do this job nicely.
[Kudos to @fluxxis] Agree, my first wish is that they do a proper redesign of the Xperia UI with Material Design influences. The TV SideView app got a new logo a month ago which could be a preview of what's to come with Android L, so I still hope they are on the right way.
In addition I want to see more CLASSY themes from Sony. The core themes on the device are ok, but the additional themes from the app store (IMO) suck. Too much color, confusing backgrounds, non-stock navigation icons, childish themes (Mickey & Co). I would like to see more stylish, simple but classy themes. Just as an example, I like these CM11 theme https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...rayford85.flat (Yeah, that's not Sony style, so they don't have to copy it exactly like that.)
I would like to see the core apps get an overhaul as well. I love the Gallery app, one of the best from Sony, but the Contacts app for example looks a little bit old. Especially Xiaomi and Huawei have done an outstanding job with redesigning their core apps in Emui 3 and Miui 6 and I hope that Sony will take a step in the right direction too.
Services and power
Android users has since a long time known the fact that custom roms which is bloatware free and customized runs in most occasions better than stock roms. And that has simply one explanation: Elements are removed. And we are not just talking apps/bloatware. We are talking about boot elements, unnecessary files, mods etc which speeds up the processing power because unwanted elements are removed. And this is where RAM comes in the picture. Even if the Z2 have 3GB RAM, i always have under 1 GB, and never have any apps in multitasking. Though this is said, the device still holds very nicely and can operate heavy tasks like gaming etc. So what i wish from Sony is to remove some bloatware and stuff to optimize RAM and storage, so we can get more of it.
Software functions
Camera: [Kudos to @fertsch] Camera Algorithms. Sony has built in a 20.7 MP camera with an f2.0 aperture which is awesome but their Software Algorithms aren't really optimized in my opinion.(Some times Color Temperature is too cold in Auto Mode or the pictures look lifeless due to lack of color intensity). Not that I'm unhappy with the Z2 Camera(not at all) but for a High-End Device they could do some improvements to them especially because they advertise the Z2 mostly for its 20.7 Megapixel Cam.
[Kudos to @Envious_Data] I would love manual focus in the camera. You cant just throw a very capable camera on a phone and not have more control This is where i think Xperias Faulter because we can create some Near DSLR results with more manual controll yet taking pictures is usualy hindered by the limits on manual whitebalance and lack of manual focus.
[Kudos to @fluxxis] I hope the camera will improve further. I have a little child and no time to play with the custom settings in real life - I want the Superior Auto Mode to finally deliver what the name promises. Right now too many pictures have wrong color balancing (more than one time even Photoshop couldn't help) and sometimes bad exposure which are my main complains.
Stock notifications and Mail app from Android L please.
The last one is my personal preference: I prefer the quick settings implementation of Google or LG. For example to get to the Bluetooth settings (common task because I own some bluetooth speakers I want to connect to on occasion) on Xperia UI I have to swipe down, swipe left, long press on the Bluetooth button, select settings. On other devices I simply have to swipe down and long press the button.
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I hope it wouldn't be like samsung lollipop update.. Nothing much is changed in the design.
Yeah. I wish Sony update their UI to a more flatened one
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Yeah. I wish Sony update their UI to a more flatened one
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my Friend:
Given the history of the years from Sony:I believe that the new design will not happen
But we can hope
Xperia Z: I wish full working HeadsUp norification option (witch disable option to people who dont like that)
@lgv2800 Check if your wishlist is completed! Sony has announced Z4 tablet and M4 Aqua running official Sony's Lollipop UI.. check it out.. So FLaT and Awesome..
Just watch M4 Aqua review from btek.
Sadly Sony's Lollipop UI did not change munch compare to 4.4.4.
Old weather widget, old launcher, old theme chooser, wall picker.
El.Guaje said:
Just watch M4 Aqua review from btek.
Sadly Sony's Lollipop UI did not change munch compare to 4.4.4.
Old weather widget, old launcher, old theme chooser, wall picker.
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But new systemui like stock android
I wish they enabled raw image capturing. Every big dog out there uses Sony sensor and ouperforms our devices..
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I wish they enabled raw image capturing. Every big dog out there uses Sony sensor and ouperforms our devices..
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+1
Without the new camera API, I don't see a reason for switching to Lollipop.
gamzekal said:
But new systemui like stock android
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I love it but I wonder, Sony Devs are lazy or out of idea or some classified strategy?
Most of sony's widgets are old and the new UI look something "unbalance" unlike 4.4.4
I love the UI of stock android. I just want that Sony keep all UI from ASOP, add their icon, widgets and done.
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Without the new camera API, I don't see a reason for switching to Lollipop.
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Me either,
hows about smarter functions
e.g double tap to wake has a prevent accidental wake feature (if the proximity sensor is activated)
toucblock automaticly enables if it gets too many random non human touches (like water would do on a screen)
Dual window - you may think dual window isnt very useful but go get your self a LG G3 and play with the dual window. its suprizingly useful and nice to use.
i can enjoy music on youtube while texting or even have a movie up while im doing work on google docs, or i could be managing some of my files while video chatting or something like that.
This function using 3 of 100 People.Rather working on Fullscreen. I used it often on my S3, but now ist a unusable funkction, cause of much fullwipes.
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This function using 3 of 100 People.Rather working on Fullscreen. I used it often on my S3, but now ist a unusable funkction, cause of much fullwipes.
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i ment the version thats built into LG G3, i had some fun with A G3 for a while and i had no issues with dual window
though the LG G3 is a laggy nonsenstical here and there.
A better battery life and camera
Group Ringtone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjo0IUEy3Ec&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Sony's lollipop is clearly seen here!
It's totally stock AOSP with just small apps switcher added and their own launcher and media apps ?
I was expecting much themed rom
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Even the lockscreen is ditto AOSP
Prasad98 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjo0IUEy3Ec&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Sony's lollipop is clearly seen here!
It's totally stock AOSP with just small apps switcher added and their own launcher and media apps
I was expecting much themed rom
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Even the lockscreen is ditto AOSP
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The NEW UI would be on a Z4 perhaps.. For now since Z4 will be launched after a year of Z3's launch, i think Z4 will get the NEW UI plus more features..
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The NEW UI would be on a Z4 perhaps.. For now since Z4 will be launched after a year of Z3's launch, i think Z4 will get the NEW UI plus more features..
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No doubt about that. We can only wait for now and see what sony's got for us.
I want the new LDAC codec support (if it's possible)
Are you comfortable in your own skin? Is your phone comfortable in its skin? Rate this thread to express how you deem the skin on the LG G7 ThinQ. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it adds just the right amount of features, it's visually pleasing, and overall it's additive to the experience. If this is a Nexus phone (you didn't think we hand-wrote all of these prompts, did you?) then use this rating to indicate how the latest version of Android looks to you.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I can feel that the skin of the device occasionally causes slight (and I mean slight) frame rate drops, just like the occasional hiccups in Samsung phones.
I started using the phone yesterday, and I am seeing less of those skips today.
Coming from vanilla Oreo on the Nexus 6P, I'm not very fond of the LG skin. It adds a LOT of extra baggage and only adds a few features that I'm likely to use. A lot of those features, I could get from using a launcher instead of having them shoe-horned into Android itself. The camera hardware is nice, but the software isn't the greatest...I'm hoping this will be improved. General yuckiness of the LG skin will likely push me to change it out for plain ole Android eventually...we'll see.
Settings/Developer Options/ tick on "Force GPU Rendering", Disable HW Overlays" makes the 2018's best phone smoother/snappier. If root available try L Speed/fstrim apps/Entropy found on Play Store. Install a custom kernel and play with kernel adiutor app. Install AdBlock too.
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Settings/Developer Options/ tick on "Force GPU Rendering", Disable HW Overlays" makes the 2018's best phone smoother/snappier. If root available try L Speed/fstrim apps/Entropy found on Play Store. Install a custom kernel and play with kernel adiutor app. Install AdBlock too.
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Any chance you can pull the APK for the Home Launcher? It has some new features I'd love on my V30
Though I am not at all satisfied with its Battery life, very high RAM consumption and pre installed bloatware, unlike Samsung phones (I owns Note 8 too at present), it has not at all lagged so far. Very snappy performance on LG UI. I have been using Nova launcher from day one on this device (and long before on others) and its absolutely awesome.
First Android in a while I've used (except Pixel 2 XL) where I haven't felt the need to install Nova. Stock launcher absolutely fine for my needs.
I feel like the stock launcher would really benefit form a list view as opposed to the only available "slide left/right" variant.
Also, my biggest gripe, is the fact that I have to force sorting the apps every time a new one is added. Otherwise it always ends up at the last position, no matter the properties. Adding, this enforced sorting only gives you one option (=alphabetically) while not touching any folders. So those items remain in the scrambled layout you've left them.
I'm missing an option to scramble the PIN entry layout and an auto-ok feature after having entered the correct PIN. Yeah, I'm a PIN guy. There's also a lack of Android's "Guest" feature when wanting to create a temporary second user account. You can only create other "real" accounts, with all their rights (although not admin), which isn't what the guest account would achieve.
Biggest plus for me are the "double tap" features the launcher offers and the way they have allowed the always-on-display to be used as a small settings app. Also the added soft buttons on the lower screen (you can reorder them and add extra features) are well done. I also feel like the extra "Smart Bulletin" page isn't bad although other vendors like HTC had more options and/or deeper integration to offer.
The "Gaming" features via LG's Extensions are the best though. That's useful stuff if you don't want to spend your whole battery on a old game being forced to run at 200fps (or something) and max resolution. Also, the quick menu via the "Floating Bar" offers a smart way to have your stuff available in any app without the need to switch back and forth.
Additionally, the currently hard-coded Google Assistant button is more useful than I initially though. I would still welcome a menu to be able to reassign it to the user's liking though.
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Coming from vanilla Oreo on the Nexus 6P, I'm not very fond of the LG skin. It adds a LOT of extra baggage and only adds a few features that I'm likely to use. A lot of those features, I could get from using a launcher instead of having them shoe-horned into Android itself. The camera hardware is nice, but the software isn't the greatest...I'm hoping this will be improved. General yuckiness of the LG skin will likely push me to change it out for plain ole Android eventually...we'll see.
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if you like the vanilla look of Oreo, then use Lawnmover, i find it great and makes the phone feel so much faster compared to the LG skin.
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if you like the vanilla look of Oreo, then use Lawnmover, i find it great and makes the phone feel so much faster compared to the LG skin.
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What is lawnmover? Are you referring to Lawnchair launcher?
I miss being able to take Photoshpere pictures like I could with the Nexus 5X.
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I miss being able to take Photoshpere pictures like I could with the Nexus 5X.
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Shouldn't be the one on bottom left? Just press the download icon on the top right and download Panorama 360 mode from SmartWorld
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The LG UI is a half baked UI when compared to other skins like EMUI, MIUI or even samsung UI. There are lots of clutter in the settings app. SMS app is that of Google, No dual app.. Not to mention bugs..LG software needs lots of refinement to be even compared with other popular skins.
Best way IMHO is to go for stock android version in which LG can include v their camera app and ensure release regular security updates..which hardly require huge resources. Customers will be ever grateful to LG..
The LG UX 7.0 running with SD 845 is a pleasure to use. Snappy and smooth all the time that I don't see any stutters or slowdowns. A real beast of 2018.
Settings/Developer Options/ tick on "Force GPU Rendering" & "Disable HW Overlays" makes the beast smoother, snappier. If there's a custom kernel, we can play with the CPU Governors, the performance smoothness can be taken the next level.
LG, if you are quick to release unlock bootloader after the launch of the LM-G710ULM (US Unlocked) atleast the devs can start working on the LG G7. 12th July to present. i.e 2 months why no bootloader unlock?
LG's implementation of the dual sim calling is bery primitive ..every time you want to call from either of the sim you have to remember to toggle the sim switcher..it deosnt have any options to set default calling options or prompt to ask which sim to use..its really frustrating for people who uses dual sims to make calls all tne time...
I installed Nova immediately, as I'm used to it. The other parts, which Nova doesn't fill with it's own functionality, all works fine.
I have found all the functionality that's needed for me without any particular effort.
Everything is smooth. So far very happy with this purchase.
Solid hw and I can't really fault the software for anything, if Android Pie shows up in a timely manner all will be perfect.
I've had this phone for about a month now and still have not got a case for it. Does anyone know of a good case that I can get that doesn't make the phone bulky and at least protects the phone?
Spigen neo hybrid is my go to.
DROID_4_UsEr said:
I've had this phone for about a month now and still have not got a case for it. Does anyone know of a good case that I can get that doesn't make the phone bulky and at least protects the phone?
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LG Q7 has oreo 8.1 and better features than G7. It has fingerprint scanner 's additional functionality enabled...Hope they get the same to G7 as well..
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Biggest plus for me are the "double tap" features the launcher offers and the way they have allowed the always-on-display to be used as a small settings app.
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I know I'm late to the party but I just got this phone yesterday -- in early 2019, it's a solid value even though it's nearing its first birthday. I've seen a lot of the other features mentioned but I don't know about these two. Anybody know what the above is referring to?