Nexus 6P or Note 5 - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Has anyone received the Nexus 6P that already had the Note 5?
I was wondering which one you liked more, and why?

I have them both, just received my 6P. The Note 5 has the edge right now because of its multitasking capabilities. I have to use it more before being more definitive.
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alhadee12 said:
I have them both, just received my 6P. The Note 5 has the edge right now because of its multitasking capabilities. I have to use it more before being more definitive.
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Note 5 has multitasking abilities? It can't even hold more than 4 application in the background...

anglerstock said:
Note 5 has multitasking abilities? It can't even hold more than 4 application in the background...
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Dual window is multitasking. Not having apps waiting on the background.
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I'm getting a note 5 Saturday
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Custom ROM's on the 6p have aosp multitasking option in developer options. It's experimental but it does work on every app (I think you need to root the note 5 to use any app, I did for my s5 and note 4) it works though I'm using it right now for xda app and hangouts
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alhadee12 said:
Dual window is multitasking. Not having apps waiting on the background.
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That is called multiwindow. And nexus 6p has it better because it works with every app. Note 5 has better camera and feels more premium. It is a boring device that will never take full advantage of hardware because of ****ty software code that Samsung puts in it.

anglerstock said:
That is called multiwindow. And nexus 6p has it better because it works with every app. Note 5 has better camera and feels more premium. It is a boring device that will never take full advantage of hardware because of ****ty software code that Samsung puts in it.
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6P you can't use two apps at the same time like the Note 5. Send me a screen shot with running two apps.
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Had a at&t note 5 for 3 weeks before getting my nexus 6p and the nexus 6p is more so the right phone for me ....the front facing speakers are great like my old nexus 6 but even better , the software experience on the nexus is more fluid than the note 5 , the note 5 does have a brighter display , the note 5 does have a slightly better camera but both are great! , battery life so far is better on the nexus 6p, never had ram issues with my note 5 so multitasking is about even even besides the dual window option's on the note , you get more storage on the nexus out of the box 25gb usable on the nexus only had around 20gb usable on the note....i don't seem to miss the s pen much nor do I miss wireless charging....but to sum it up both phones are great

anglerstock said:
That is called multiwindow. And nexus 6p has it better because it works with every app. Note 5 has better camera and feels more premium. It is a boring device that will never take full advantage of hardware because of ****ty software code that Samsung puts in it.
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I wouldn't go as far to say all of that. However, it is true Samsung handicaps what can be done by the device. Hardly any useful apps can be used to multitask I just came from the note 4 and I'll tell you that I'd ditch multitasking and all of tw features in a heartbeat for this phone. Plus I don't like the way Samsung is designing their new phones. Hate the metal design time and time again plastic has been the better material, no removable back or SD port. They killed off the main reason why I would even buy a Samsung flagship over the nexus line. And this is someone who has had every note except the 5 and had the s1 and 2.
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I've never felt the note 5 to be premium. I prefer the note 4 over the 5 build quality and the camera is better on the 6p.

It's just my opinion, multi-window is true multitasking. You don't necessarily have to hide one app to use the next one. That's the same thing the iPhone uses.
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Well, since I just sold my Note 5 for the 6P, I guess my answer would be the 6P.
I just got it today, so my experience with the 6P is somewhat limited but here are my thoughts (I'll leave the price difference out of it, but that's obviously a huge factor as well):
The Note 5 is probably the BEST phone on the market right now, period. Features, power, design, it has everything. Everything except being a Nexus and running stock Android. This means the 6P has a noticeably smoother and, in my opinion, better UI. The Exynos CPU is undoubtedly faster. This is most noticeable when launching apps. The Note 5 will definitely beat the 6P there. That said, would you even notice if you didn't have them side by side? Probably not. The Snapdragon 810 is no slouch and nothing feels slow when you're using the phone. So to me, the Note 5 has an overall negligible edge on power when it comes to actual use. As for the multitasking capabilities mentioned above, unless you mean the split screen which usually seemed like little more than a gimmick to me, the multitasking is pretty bad on the Note 5. It has an extra GB of memory, and yet it still constantly kills apps. Hopefully Samsung tweaks that more with future updates because I feel the 6P probably has the advantage in multitasking at the moment.
The Note 5 also has a slightly better screen. They say they are the same panel, but I suspect either Huawei gets the slightly lower quality screens of the two, or Samsung still has some tricks up their sleeve to optimize their own screen, or probably a little of both. That would explain the number of screen complaints on the 6P while the panel is still relatively new to production. Again, assuming you don't get a pink screen like some, the screen still looks every bit as good for the most part. I can't imagine anyone complaining about a good 6P screen. Samsung has a brightness setting called The Face of the Sun which I don't miss forgetting to turn back to adaptive before looking at the phone in the middle of the night. I haven't really used the phone when it was really bright outside yet, so I can't say for sure if I miss the extra brightness there, but again I have no complaints about the 6P.
The camera is also better in the Note 5, but the 6P's is pretty damn good too, and if you care that much, get a real camera and stop trying to take pictures on your phone. That's pretty much the end of that discussion for me. The main reason I got the Note 5 was because Samsung finally designed a nice phone again, but again, the 6P feels equally premium. In fact, while I respected the design of the Note 5 and wanted to like it, I kind of didn't. Something about the feel of it just never felt quite right to me. I still think a glass back on a phone is stupid, just like it was when Apple did it and learned their lesson. I very much like the look and feel of the 6P, especially the Frost version that I have. The back of the Note 5 is too rounded and it makes the already slippery glass back feel like a bar of soap in your hand. Oh, and one last feature that was actually pretty important to me on the Note 5 was the wireless charging. Too bad it doesn't work half the time.
Now, onto the 6P. Like I said, the 6P has more than enough processing power, a more than good enough camera and screen (again assuming a good one), and a fantastic design and feel. Remember that sinking feeling you got when that first 6P pic leaked? It's light years better in person. I really do like the design of this phone. It reminds me of my One which was one of my favorite phones. Being that we are all here on XDA, the advantage of the 6P is that it DOESN'T have the Exynos processor. I had the Note 5 less than a month and was already getting annoyed that I would never be able to have anything but the stock software or small mods on top of it. Touchwiz was incredibly better since I last saw it, but it's still pretty ugly, in particular the notification drawer in the Note 5 really bugged me compared to stock Android. Because of all this, the smoothness of the 6P makes it feel like a faster device during normal use. You'd never know it was a little slower without having them side by side. And of course, there's always the time difference in receiving updates. Sure you'll get Marshmallow on the Note 5, and probably pretty soon. But every update after that will start getting more questionable and probably slower as other phones become their priority.
So in conclusion/tl;dr, they are both at the very top of the list of best phones on the market. The speed differences aren't something you'd ever even know most of the time without directly comparing them, and you'd be forgiven to think the 6P might even be faster. They both top the list in nearly every category. I can't imagine anyone being disappointed in either phone. If you value any of the Samsung specific bits like the stylus, then the Samsung is for you. If you value the ability to modify the software on your phone and receive updates as soon as they are available, the 6P is for you. If you have either, consider yourself lucky to have one of the best phones on the market. I switched because I wanted to be able to use real ROMs and kernels, not just the tease you get with an Exynos device, and I wanted updates ASAP, even as previews. I suspect most people who are here on XDA probably value this as well, which is fairly evident by the fact that a month newer device has WAY more activity on here.

Dude I was scared to do the switch. The 6P MURDERS the note 5 (in my opinion).
Don't be scared if you're on the same boat, or at least try it and if you don't like it, just send it back.

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alhadee12 said:
It's just my opinion, multi-window is true multitasking. You don't necessarily have to hide one app to use the next one. That's the same thing the iPhone uses.
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jinx10000 said:
Added screenshot of multi-window.
Edit: Apparently the device will only take a screenshot of the selected application and not both open windows. Don't have another camera.
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I would like to see it or you can send me the details on how to do it. I've never seen multi-window on a Nexus device.
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But a note 5 is worth $0.96 right????
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alhadee12 said:
I would like to see it or you can send me the details on how to do it. I've never seen multi-window on a Nexus device.
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Never mind just posted the wrong picture. Updated in previous post.

jinx10000 said:
Never mind just posted the wrong picture. Updated in previous post.
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Is that the 6P? The pic looks uneven, how do you do it because I can't find the function even under the developer settings?
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Never mind just posted the wrong picture. Updated in previous post.
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Are you rooted?
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any one came from the note 2?

hey guys I have the note 2 and I finally saw the nexus 4 in person and wow I was just wow its brighter then the note 2 going threw menus was just smooth! I can deal with stock andriod also I got a offer nexus 4 8gb for 175 for my note not sure if I should pull the tigger what do you guys think.
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Stock Android. Updates directly from Google as they become available.
Both are good... Depends on what you want. Personally I get bored with the plastic build of Samsung after a while. Only thing you will miss from Note 2 is the awesome camera and bigger battery. Camera is average in Nexus 4. Nexus rules them all with latest software and best xda dev support.
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kirdroid said:
Both are good... Depends on what you want. Personally I get bored with the plastic build of Samsung after a while. Only thing you will miss from Note 2 is the awesome camera and bigger battery. Camera is average in Nexus 4. Nexus rules them all with latest software and best xda dev support.
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There are cool features from Touchwiz which you may miss. The screenshare to Xbox 360 is pretty freakin cool.
What about the screen size change for you? Seems like most Note2 owner swears they can never downsize to anything smaller after using one. Personally, the biggest reason I'd switch from a Note 2 to a Nexus 4 is for cost savings. As stated, the N4's camera and battery life are certainly mediocre in comparison to the Note 2's.
i had the note 2, and my buddy still has it, which helps or else i would probably remember the note a little better than it actually is, that being said i lke my nexus 4 more, a larger screen is nice but for as long as the resolution is the same i dont mind it being on the smaller screen. and yeah its a little washed out and battery and cam lack, BUT after that i enjoy the feel, the onscreen buttons, jb 4.2, the dev community, Google wallet! and keeping track of less features often makes me use my phone in a more efficient manner, i think googles nexus program is perfect for learning to balance total customization and you 4X4 iphone screen, TW gets a little complicated though i understand it well. also coming from the note i didnt find the N4 to be washed out as much as i thought the note was way too vivid, just my 0.02 both are favs to me
The Note 2 is way more expensive... At least get the 16Gb version
Does note 2 use the same size sim card as nexus 4?
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iPhone 6 Plus vs Nexus 6 vs Galaxy Note 4

Came across this comparison, Nexus 6 is superior in every way except the camera.
Nexus 6 was found to have superior:
Display (qHD)
Battery (3220mAh)
RAM (3GB)
OS (Stock Lollipop, the best!)
Price,
Other features (water resistant, wireless charging, dual speakers)
I really think Nexus 6 will sell better than previous nexus devices. While the camera is still not as good as Note 4 or iPhone 6 Plus, it is still better than most of the devices out there.
Check it out.
Source
They stated the Note 4 and Nexus 6 are a tie when it comes to the display and battery life.
Nexus 6! Game over!!
yeah im not sure about the display..in other comparisons they have stated that the note 4 panel is subtly better, with slightly crisper text and sharper image quality and i even tried to do the comparison myself and the note 4 indeed has a better display
Well I got bored waiting for my December 2 delivery so I got a note 4 to try out. I came from a note 3. It's. Nice ut frankly not that different...
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ekerbuddyeker said:
Well I got bored waiting for my December 2 delivery so I got a note 4 to try out. I came from a note 3. It's. Nice ut frankly not that different...
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How is TW? Is it really laggy and buggy or is it a bit improved?
Day 2 and I have to say that it's really not that different to the 3. The home key has real lag. I set up both devices exactly the same and ran side by side comparisons of app running time... And most times the Note 3 was faster. Weird. Will keep it for 13 days then return it and wait a week for my nexus 64gb to arrive!
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^^The home key has real lag?
I don't have any lag with the home key. Have you turned off Svoice double tap to activate feature?
These 3 phone plus the note edge are my choices for January when I get my upgrade. I have the note 3 now and I don't feel like the note 4 is worthy of the upgrade. I finally got my hands on the edge at the at&t store. I was so excited to check it out. I left the store thinking it was pretty cool but I was still underwhelmed. So now I am down to the nexus 6 and iPhone 6 plus. At this point I'm really leaning towards the 6 plus (please don't hate). It's a personal preference type of thing.
I used to love the iPhone up to the 4s. Then I couldn't stand small screen size anymore. Fortunately for me they fixed that problem now.
I can't take touchwiz any longer and all the crap Samsung has added into the phones. That's sad to say because I have had the galaxy s, s2, s3, s4 and now the note 3.
I can't wait to check out a nexus 6 to make my final decision. I feel like it is going to be a tough one
Display is a tie? What a great joke. There is a thick chance the author doesn't even own a nexus 6. I wanted to like nexus 6 sooo much, it could've been my dream phone but unfortunately, the screen can only go as bright as 278 nits vs note 4 400+ nits and upto 700 nits in extreme bright light.
So far, note 4 NAND performance is faster. Eg better read and writes. Note 4 battery lasts longer. I think we all should be realistic. How can you call it superior ?
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np231 said:
Came across this comparison, Nexus 6 is superior in every way except the camera.
Nexus 6 was found to have superior:
Display (qHD)
Battery (3220mAh)
RAM (3GB)
OS (Stock Lollipop, the best!)
Price,
Other features (water resistant, wireless charging, dual speakers)
I really think Nexus 6 will sell better than previous nexus devices. While the camera is still not as good as Note 4 or iPhone 6 Plus, it is still better than most of the devices out there.
Check it out.
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Note 4 display is better.
Battery is the same.
RAM is the same.
OS is irrelevant.
Price is also too close to call.
Front speakers and water resistance is it. Wireless charging is possible on the Note 4.
Do some research before spreading crap.
plasmastate said:
Display is a tie? What a great joke. There is a thick chance the author doesn't even own a nexus 6. I wanted to like nexus 6 sooo much, it could've been my dream phone but unfortunately, the screen can only go as bright as 278 nits vs note 4 400+ nits and upto 700 nits in extreme bright light.
So far, note 4 NAND performance is faster. Eg better read and writes. Note 4 battery lasts longer. I think we all should be realistic. How can you call it superior ?
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That's on manual brightness nits don't mean everything there are other factors. All the reviewers say the screen is excellent and easy to read in day light. Gsm arena review display
The note only has faster read times because it is not fully encrypted on Lollipop. Just wait until it gets it. Also the nexus 6 is smoother than the note all around through the operating system and within apps. The battery life is similar.
dont be saying around that the nexus 6 has a very display because thats not true
ekerbuddyeker said:
Well I got bored waiting for my December 2 delivery so I got a note 4 to try out. I came from a note 3. It's. Nice ut frankly not that different...
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Really curious about how you went about "trying out the note 4". Because I am really wanting to do this exact thing with both the iPhone 6 Plus and the Note 4 to decide if I'd want to switch to iOS or continue my crapwiz adventure, or try out the N6. I am on verizon and I see they have a $35 restocking fee if you return a product within 14 days. Is their a way around this? How'd you do it? What's your carrier?
From AnandTech who does very thorough objective testing. Traditionally they're pretty rough in their Samsung reviews and fairly "pro" Nexus with value taken in to account in their findings. With pricing similar to other high-end devices the Nexus 6 and 9 can't play the value card anymore.
Battery
The first test is our WiFi web browsing test which loads a set of web pages in a loop with pauses to avoid penalizing phones with faster SoCs than others. In this test we see that the Nexus 6 does perform somewhat poorly. Compared to Samsung's Galaxy Note 4 which has essentially the same specifications on paper, the Nexus 6 lasts 4.27 hours shorter. It is likely that this can be attributed to the display, which may not be as efficient as the latest and greatest AMOLED panel used in the Note 4.
Display
Overall, the Nexus 6 display is quite poor relative to the displays on other smartphones like the Galaxy Note 4, iPhone 6, and HTC One (M7). It's also a definite regression from the display on the Nexus 5, which is concerning given the fact that the Nexus 6 is $300 more expensive. It has been speculated that Motorola is unable to source the latest generation of panels from Samsung Display, which would explain why many of the panel characteristics are similar to previous generation AMOLED panels in the Note 3 and Galaxy S4. Although the efficiency of AMOLED displays when displaying black helps to reduce power usage with features like Ambient Display which wakes up the phone when notifications arrive or it is picked up, I don't believe it's worth the trade-off if it involves such heavy sacrifices in color accuracy and brightness.
Camera
I'm very happy with the improvements Google has made to their camera on the Nexus 6. I no longer feel like Nexus devices will always be a generation behind the competition when it comes to camera quality. Google and Motorola should also congratulate themselves on their white balance algorithm which helped the Nexus 6 to take photos that better reflected how the scenes actually looked in real life. I hope Google will continue to improve their camera software to make the user interface less menu driven, and to improve capture times for photos which is the one area that the Nexus 6 really falls behind its competition.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8687/the-nexus-6-review
Baurblades43 said:
Really curious about how you went about "trying out the note 4". Because I am really wanting to do this exact thing with both the iPhone 6 Plus and the Note 4 to decide if I'd want to switch to iOS or continue my crapwiz adventure, or try out the N6. I am on verizon and I see they have a $35 restocking fee if you return a product within 14 days. Is their a way around this? How'd you do it? What's your carrier?
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I went from the 6 Plus to the Note 4 then back to the 6 Plus. Bought the 6 Plus at the Apple Store and the Note 4 at Best Buy. Neither have restocking fees. Even got to keep my $200 Best Buy gift card when I returned the Note. I also have the Nexus on preorder through Motorola with a December 2nd delivery date. This is the first iPhone I've had since the 4. I'm really liking it, but also excited to try the Nexus. [emoji2]
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I currently have the 6 Plus. Not bad but Apple was not ready for the big screen. So many apps are big and clunky. I've had a lot of random reboots and the screen isn't all that special.
yellowman82 said:
How is TW? Is it really laggy and buggy or is it a bit improved?
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I went from Note 3 to 4 and the lag and fluidity improvements are quite noticeable. Here's why...
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Qualcomm ROMs also have major issues mostly regarding camera - I'm not up to date with it.
They have fixed any discernible delay and lag as far as I can see in the Note 4 (and Alpha). The lag in previous versions were due to the userspace DVFS hooks, and that got totally rewritten in the Alpha and Note 4.
And btw you can just turn off those services and replace the stock keyguard - there goes your lag.
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americasteam said:
I went from the 6 Plus to the Note 4 then back to the 6 Plus. Bought the 6 Plus at the Apple Store and the Note 4 at Best Buy. Neither have restocking fees. Even got to keep my $200 Best Buy gift card when I returned the Note. I also have the Nexus on preorder through Motorola with a December 2nd delivery date. This is the first iPhone I've had since the 4. I'm really liking it, but also excited to try the Nexus. [emoji2]
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So you're recommending me I go through a retailer to try out these phones, and then just return before the typical 14 day policy? Did you bring it to your carrier to use it? Or did you just use it with wifi? I feel like if you went through your carrier for the service it'd cause more problems.
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So you're recommending me I go through a retailer to try out these phones, and then just return before the typical 14 day policy? Did you bring it to your carrier to use it? Or did you just use it with wifi? I feel like if you went through your carrier for the service it'd cause more problems.
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I was on the Next program with the first iPhone and a 2 year contract with the Note. Both signed through AT&T. Yes, neither retailer have restocking fees. If I would have went through AT&T they would have charged me $35 for the first one and blocked me from returning the Note. I would have been stuck. Went back to the Apple Store for my current 6 Plus.
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Lollipop is the only reason

I was wondering How many people are buying nexus 6 because of lollipop? I for one am.
Imagine for a moment if Note 4 also came with pure lollipop with no crappy touchwiz which would you buy? I didn't think i would say this but i would buy note 4 and I hate samsung because of plastic and touchwiz.
Galaxy Note 4 hardware wise is far superior in almost every dept, better camera, LED notification, S Pen, better and brighter screen, better design, finger print, sd card.
Speakers would definetly go to Nexus 6 and bigger screen butnot better screen.
Biggest let down on note 4 TOUCHWIZ which is a complete put off.
I've been waiting for nexus 6 for a little while now and have bought Note 4 recently which actually is better then i expected and does look premium and if i was to remove the dreaded TOUCHWIZ it's a very appealing phone. Now i'm considering waiting for custom roms rather then buy nexus 6!!! Or can someone convince me otherwise, perhaps i've missed some nexus pro's.
Aosp roms on the note 3 were not reliable. I expect the same for the note 4.
I've never liked the samsung cameras... my s4 and note 3 had TERRIBLE autofocus. I also didn't like the way it processed pictures. For the most part, I want a decent camera but I dont need an amazing camera.
If software were the same, (no touchwiz), I still think the nexus 6 looks better, has dual front facing speakers, and a larger screen.
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Aosp roms on the note 3 were not reliable. I expect the same for the note 4.
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hmm..that's a good point But surely lollipop would be fine.
I'm getting one because of the development potential. Also it will be my first nexus (2nd Motorola). Currently am on LG G3. That will now go to the wife, since she loves the camera.
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I've never liked the samsung cameras... my s4 and note 3 had TERRIBLE autofocus. I also didn't like the way it processed pictures. For the most part, I want a decent camera but I dont need an amazing camera.
If software were the same, (no touchwiz), I still think the nexus 6 looks better, has dual front facing speakers, and a larger screen.
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The camera autofocus works brilliantly on the note 4 much improved, it's probably the best phone camera out there. Better then iphone and xperia z3.
I would definitely buy a Note 4 if it didn't have TouchWiz. IMO, TouchWiz is very ugly, cluttered, and drags the performance down to an unacceptable level. I have used every Galaxy S and Note extensively, but I have not bought a phone from Samsung since the S2.
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I'm getting one because of the development potential. Also it will be my first nexus (2nd Motorola). Currently am on LG G3. That will now go to the wife, since she loves the camera.
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Fair point, LG G3 was one of the most fustrating phones i've had in recent years. Never say never but i won't be buying LG for sometime until the get rid of the ui. Smart move passing it on to your wife.:fingers-crossed:
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The camera autofocus works brilliantly on the note 4 much improved, it's probably the best phone camera out there. Better then iphone and xperia z3.
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interesting... maybe im just not a fan of the way samsung processes images but I understand the tech behind the AF system it uses so it should be reallly good. As much as it pains me to say, I have yet to see an android take better pictures than the equivalent iphone of the time.
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I would definitely buy a Note 4 if it didn't have TouchWiz. IMO, TouchWiz is very ugly, cluttered, and drags the performance down to an unacceptable level. I have used every Galaxy S and Note extensively, but I have not bought a phone from Samsung since the S2.
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I know how you feel and i couldnt agree more TW is ugly and slooooww.
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interesting... maybe im just not a fan of the way samsung processes images but I understand the tech behind the AF system it uses so it should be reallly good. As much as it pains me to say, I have yet to see an android take better pictures than the equivalent iphone of the time.
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Having owned iphone 6 plus inmho the camera on Note 4 is superior in most conditions.
I would've definitely bought a Note 4 if Samsung found a way to implement some of their features into Stock Android. They've done a great job with hardware now they need to focus on optimizing software. Samsung is supposedly starting over next year & I look forward to see what the Galaxy S 6 & Note 5 will bring
If you're on VZW there is a Dev edition note 4. I'm sure there will be AOSP Roms available for it soon.
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I've never liked the samsung cameras... my s4 and note 3 had TERRIBLE autofocus. I also didn't like the way it processed pictures. For the most part, I want a decent camera but I dont need an amazing camera.
If software were the same, (no touchwiz), I still think the nexus 6 looks better, has dual front facing speakers, and a larger screen.
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Yes got to give the larger screen and better speakers to Nexus, however most reviewers are saying note 4 screen is sharper and brighter.
Lollipop is definitely the only reason not the phone hardware itself.
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I would've definitely bought a Note 4 if Samsung found a way to implement some of their features into Stock Android. They've done a great job with hardware now they need to focus on optimizing software. Samsung is supposedly starting over next year & I look forward to see what the Galaxy S 6 & Note 5 will bring
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I hear you man, i think samsung need to otherwise they risk losing more customers.
Similar hw specs leave me hopeful for increased development and AOSP stability on Note 4.
I would get the N4 solely because the screen quality. It blew me away first time I saw it. Nothing, nothing comes close.
But can't do TW, no no no. That's how much I hate it.
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I would get the N4 solely because the screen quality. It blew me away first time I saw it. Nothing, nothing comes close.
But can't do TW, no no no. That's how much I hate it.
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The screen on the note 4 is in another dimension. The best display ever seen on a phone by far.
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Similar hw specs leave me hopeful for increased development and AOSP stability on Note 4.
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I was thinking the same thing.
I like some features of TW. But it is overbearing and slows down the device. I was really torn between the two phones. I have always liked the bigger phones. When I heard the new Nexus device was going to be a phablet I was already sold. Love the support the nexus devices get from devs. That's what makes it worth it for me.
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Is the Note 4 the right phone for me? (last minute advice before I purchase)

Can anybody give me any last-minute advice before I sell my iPhone 6 Plus for a Galaxy Note 4?
I'm not looking for any iOS vs Android arguments, but after switching between iOS and Android, I seem to prefer Android much more.
However, I want an Android phone with a top-notch camera and it seems like the Note 4 has the best (?) camera available. I have two little kids and often don't take my camera with me, so I want a phone with a very good camera and excellent video capability as well. (I probably take slightly more videos than I do pictures)
I also want something at least 5" or larger. I'm mostly used to the "large" iPhone 6 Plus size, so I don't think the Note 4 will be a problem.
My top phones I'm deciding between are: Note 4, OnePlus One, LG G3, Sony Xperia Z3, Galaxy S5, Moto X.
Price isn't a concern because I'll be selling my iPhone 6 Plus to recoup the costs.
EDIT: I am a little concerned about the higher resolution on the Note 4 slowing down some light gaming, or having scaling issues with games, etc...
I actually just switched from a 6 Plus to a Note 4 in the past two weeks and I havent really regretted doing so. I have also owned the OPO, G3, and S5 and to my liking the Note 4 overpowers all. Note 4 takes wonderful pictures as you already with OIS as well as great videos. Since I have had the device I haven't snapped a lot of videos but I know there wouldn't be an issue in that category when it comes down to it.
As for slowing down when you are gaming, idk much about that since I do zero gaming on my device. You going from the 6 Plus to the Note 4 will be a breeze since the Note 4 is easier to hold in hands, despite people saying that the edges are sharp on the Note but that doesnt affect me since I run a case on my Note 4.
If you are taking lots of videos and pictures then having that external memory is a plus already. I am running an 128GB sd card in my device which I know is overkill but its there if I need it. I can also store a few 4k videos up there if I really wanted to. I don't think you will be dissapointed with the switch to the Note 4. Yeah it was a stretch coming from how smooth iOS is and then going back to bloaty Touchwiz but TW has been optimized a little more and with a few tweaks it can be very smooth, I say hit some comparison videos up on YouTube and then make the decision.
Thanks so much for the information!
I'm still doing research, and is it true that the AT&T version has it's bootloader unlocked, but the T-Mobile is unlocked?
I'd like to stay with AT&T, so would there be a problem purchasing the T-Mobile version and activating it on AT&T?
Unfortunately one of the applications I use (ARUnchained) requires root access so I do want an Android phone that can be rooted...
I am also on the edge of buying note 4. I am actually using z3 right now and the reason I would be switching is the camera. It is not so good as it looks on the paper and the only reason why I would be changing.
Everything else I like a lot and I actually don't like Samsung as a brand and almost hate touchwiz so the change is not easy..
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Yes! Just go for the note 4 mate that is a top notch android phone.. With a good built quality, camera are also good specially on outdoors but comparing in low light shot iphone camera is still on the top. Battery are great now with fast charging and ultrapower saving mode.. A lot of features and customization (cuz android) also the spen!
And those beautifully 2k display man you can never go wrong
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sofakng said:
Thanks so much for the information!
I'm still doing research, and is it true that the AT&T version has it's bootloader unlocked, but the T-Mobile is unlocked?
I'd like to stay with AT&T, so would there be a problem purchasing the T-Mobile version and activating it on AT&T?
Unfortunately one of the applications I use (ARUnchained) requires root access so I do want an Android phone that can be rooted...
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Yeah the AT&T version right not cant be rooted but I have been following a few threads where people are working on it now but there is not ETA as to where the AT&T version will be rooted, I am also desperately needing root. I think there is also a thread where people are using AT&T service on a T-Mobile phone but there are some disadvantages I think, There should be a thread in the AT&T Note 4 section with all those concerns. But the T-Mobile version can be rooted. If you want a rooted phone and also great quality all around, I would say my next option would be the G3. Very easy to root and also has a great camera. I just couldn't get with LG interface over Android.
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I am also on the edge of buying note 4. I am actually using z3 right now and the reason I would be switching is the camera. It is not so good as it looks on the paper and the only reason why I would be changing.
Everything else I like a lot and I actually don't like Samsung as a brand and almost hate touchwiz so the change is not easy..
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Yeah Touchwiz is what it is at this point. I also hate it with a passion but like I said with a few tweaks and I run Nova Launcher, it can be very smooth and right now I have no complaints. I cant speak of the Sony Z series as that is one series I have not yet played with or owned yet.
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Markpuge said:
Yes! Just go for the note 4 mate that is a top notch android phone.. With a good built quality, camera are also good specially on outdoors but comparing in low light shot iphone camera is still on the top. Battery are great now with fast charging and ultrapower saving mode.. A lot of features and customization (cuz android) also the spen!
And those beautifully 2k display man you can never go wrong
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You are correct my friend, Even though in the beginning I was leery to switch away from the 6 Plus that was a great phone for me, The Note 4 just has too many features to pass up!
Gaming is good for me using my exynos variant
I switched to the Note 4 (Exynos) coming from an OPO. I wouldn't recommend the OPO since it has serious QA issues. My unit had this awful touchscreen issue which rendered the screen unusable when it got too hot. And it's a PITA to RMA it AFAIK.
I'm really liking the Note 4 a lot. Coming from stock or close to stock Android (I owned a Nexus 4 and 5 before the OPO), TouchWiz doesn't feel nearly as bloated as before. Everything is smooth and performance in games is top notch.
It feels great in the hand, the S Pen is quite handy, the screen is absolutely fantastic, the camera is great... My only complaint would be the rear facing speaker.
Samsung really won me over with the Note 4. Glad I picked this one up instead of the Nexus 6.
sofakng said:
Can anybody give me any last-minute advice before I sell my iPhone 6 Plus for a Galaxy Note 4?
I'm not looking for any iOS vs Android arguments, but after switching between iOS and Android, I seem to prefer Android much more.
However, I want an Android phone with a top-notch camera and it seems like the Note 4 has the best (?) camera available. I have two little kids and often don't take my camera with me, so I want a phone with a very good camera and excellent video capability as well. (I probably take slightly more videos than I do pictures)
I also want something at least 5" or larger. I'm mostly used to the "large" iPhone 6 Plus size, so I don't think the Note 4 will be a problem.
My top phones I'm deciding between are: Note 4, OnePlus One, LG G3, Sony Xperia Z3, Galaxy S5, Moto X.
Price isn't a concern because I'll be selling my iPhone 6 Plus to recoup the costs.
EDIT: I am a little concerned about the higher resolution on the Note 4 slowing down some light gaming, or having scaling issues with games, etc...
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Simply put it's just the best device on the market right now. Nothing comes close to it. Go for it, you won't regret it like you did the iPhone
after deciding that the note series is the best phablet, you still have to choose between
Exynos Note4, Snapdragon Note4 or Note Edge
after using exynos note4 for sometime, I am considering switching to note edge for the cool curved screen. The feeling of curved glass on thumb is amazing.
I would suggest a in store hands on with the Note Edge first, than go read the exynos vs snapdragon thread on the note 4 if you dont like the Edge.
good luck
I bought The note 4 after long times of researching and I absloutely love it. I own The 6 plus as Well but I like The Note 4 more. I like carrying both operating systems in my pocket. I use the Note for work and taking pics and use 6 plus For chatting and connecting with friends
If you want to use the Gear VR - only Snapdragon runs smooth because of the better GPU

Nexus 6p vs note 5

I currently have a 32gb black sapphire note 5 from tmobile which I love a lot.. If I had to be honest with myself I'd have to say my battery heats up from time to time and all the Knox bs drives me crazy.. I have been considering getting the 6p and giving my mom my note 5 so it stays in house and I can always switch back to it and give my mom the 6p.. I'm wondering for those who have it if the jump is truly worth it..
I've read about the 6p bending and the sound quality not being so great and sounds muffled etc.. Also someone mentioned it heats up as well.. Can anyone help with any feedback before I make the plunge??...
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Yes, do some searching. Plenty of threads open about same topic. Check your Note 5 in a dark room, dark wallpaper, does it have this issue?
m.imgur.com/a/LgEM5
anglerstock said:
Yes, do some searching. Plenty of threads open about same topic. Check your Note 5 in a dark room, dark wallpaper, does it have this issue?
m.imgur.com/a/LgEM5
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I looked around but nothing that compared the 2 phones.. I don't have that issue with my note 5 but people were saying some notes came with that affect that yours has.. Maybe since its a Sammy screen would explain both phones having that issue
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KINGDROID25 said:
I currently have a 32gb black sapphire note 5 from tmobile which I love a lot.. If I had to be honest with myself I'd have to say my battery heats up from time to time and all the Knox bs drives me crazy.. I have been considering getting the 6p and giving my mom my note 5 so it stays in house and I can always switch back to it and give my mom the 6p.. I'm wondering for those who have it if the jump is truly worth it..
I've read about the 6p bending and the sound quality not being so great and sounds muffled etc.. Also someone mentioned it heats up as well.. Can anyone help with any feedback before I make the plunge??...
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I have a 128gb Frost 6P. I have had a lot of the best flagship devices over the years and this is the best Android device I have ever used. Have not experienced heating issues, stutters, lag...its really just a great device. Of your worried about bending (which I think has been over blown) use a case.
Highly recommended.
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I have a 128gb Frost 6P. I have had a lot of the best flagship devices over the years and this is the best Android device I have ever used. Have not experienced heating issues, stutters, lag...its really just a great device. Of your worried about bending (which I think has been over blown) use a case.
Highly recommended.
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Thanks, have you had the note 5 or s6??.. I had opo and that made me not like aosp and prefer tw.. As of now once I sell my moms s6 I'll be getting the 6p.. I have a 64gb otg that I'm sure I can use on a 32gb 6p so I'll be fine in memory lol.. How's the frost looking??..
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The only time I have experienced a heating issue was while using the phone and charging at the same time. I ran antutu twice... Both times after using the phone for a while and other apps open.. Once with the microfiber case on and once naked. With case I got 50k, without 59.5. The phone is excellent and I have not run into issues that others have reported.
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I looked around but nothing that compared the 2 phones.. I don't have that issue with my note 5 but people were saying some notes came with that affect that yours has.. Maybe since its a Sammy screen would explain both phones having that issue
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forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/nexus-6p-vs-note-5-t3212443
forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/nexus-6p-note-5-t3247763
If you ask here people say get the Nexus 6P. If you ask Note 5 forum, people say get the Note 5. End of the day it is up to you what you give more priority to. Both phones are great.
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Thanks, have you had the note 5 or s6??.. I had opo and that made me not like aosp and prefer tw.. As of now once I sell my moms s6 I'll be getting the 6p.. I have a 64gb otg that I'm sure I can use on a 32gb 6p so I'll be fine in memory lol.. How's the frost looking??..
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No have not owned a Note 5 but do own a 64gb S6. Don't like TW and the S6 is starting to stutter and lag. The battery life as well has been awful from the start. I have an OPO as well and it was a decent device (good battery life).
Frost looks great, those chamfered edges really pop and its not nearly as slippery as a glass device. I'm a Nexus guy though....I like using the UI the way Google intended and being first in line for updates.
Good luck man, I have heard good things about the Note 5 so I'm sure you can't go wrong either way.
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forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/nexus-6p-vs-note-5-t3212443
forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/nexus-6p-note-5-t3247763
If you ask here people say get the Nexus 6P. If you ask Note 5 forum, people say get the Note 5. End of the day it is up to you what you give more priority to. Both phones are great.
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Lmfao.. Search is my friend... LmFao.. Honestly I went straight to the 6p section checked in q & a didn't see anything so that's why I posted it.. I am using the tapatalk app so not sure if it's different from Web or xda app..
I could see why note 5 section says stay with note 5 and 6p say the same.. I'm a big Sammy fan boy but my heating issues and some tw limitations have me curious.. I've also never owned a nexus.. The lack of mp and iso, but I've read great reviews about this device
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Haha is okay. If you are a big Sammy fanboy and have used tw most of the time then chances are you won't like the Nexus 6P. But tell us more, how do you use your device? What is important to you when purchasing a phone?
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Well I've had the s2 s3 s4 s5 s6 now note 5..i did have an opo which the screen was crap compared to Sammy..
Personally I dont use very many tw apps.. My launcher is usually nova I use solid explorer and chrome.. When purchasing a phone external SD and battery are important as is the camera.. Nowadays extSdCard and battery seem to be a thing of the past so a great camera is good cause I have a soon to be 3 yr old and capturing moments are important..
I like sms time stamps for each message no matter how close or far apart the times are in between.. I love to root and theme my phone with center clock and 3minit... I use to be a huge aosp supporter but honestly Sammy screens is what make me a fan boy..
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Lmfao.. Search is my friend... LmFao.. Honestly I went straight to the 6p section checked in q & a didn't see anything so that's why I posted it.. I am using the tapatalk app so not sure if it's different from Web or xda app..
I could see why note 5 section says stay with note 5 and 6p say the same.. I'm a big Sammy fan boy but my heating issues and some tw limitations have me curious.. I've also never owned a nexus.. The lack of mp and iso, but I've read great reviews about this device
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Honestly, the 6p is a fantastic phone. My favorite phone to date, but I've grown to prefer pure Android over TW, Sense, etc. If you really like TW then I say try to figure out your heating issue and stick with the note 5. Try turning the display to basic, the other settings seem to be pretty taxing on the phone. The note has 2 huge advantages over the 6p imo: the camera software and one handed mode.
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KINGDROID25 said:
Well I've had the s2 s3 s4 s5 s6 now note 5..i did have an opo which the screen was crap compared to Sammy..
Personally I dont use very many tw apps.. My launcher is usually nova I use solid explorer and chrome.. When purchasing a phone external SD and battery are important as is the camera.. Nowadays extSdCard and battery seem to be a thing of the past so a great camera is good cause I have a soon to be 3 yr old and capturing moments are important..
I like sms time stamps for each message no matter how close or far apart the times are in between.. I love to root and theme my phone with center clock and 3minit... I use to be a huge aosp supporter but honestly Sammy screens is what make me a fan boy..
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Video recording is nothing special on the Nexus 6p. Also screen is awesome but if you hold it side by side against the Note 5 you will want the Note 5. Eye gets used though, so if you already use nova on your Note 5 and apps from the Playstore to substitute Samsung's own apps you might like the phone. I say try it, you have 15 days to return it. Usually Nexus devices are for those people that know how to tweak their phone and prefer minimalistic style.
KINGDROID25 said:
I currently have a 32gb black sapphire note 5 from tmobile which I love a lot.. If I had to be honest with myself I'd have to say my battery heats up from time to time and all the Knox bs drives me crazy.. I have been considering getting the 6p and giving my mom my note 5 so it stays in house and I can always switch back to it and give my mom the 6p.. I'm wondering for those who have it if the jump is truly worth it..
I've read about the 6p bending and the sound quality not being so great and sounds muffled etc.. Also someone mentioned it heats up as well.. Can anyone help with any feedback before I make the plunge??...
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Shaddup idiot.
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Shaddup idiot.
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Yes sir Mr Sammy fan boy #1... I'll never get 6p it's boring ? I hate the ui blah blah blah..
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I Have both phones and they are both beasts. I find that thanks to the lighter touchwiz and the combination of exynos and 4gb of RAM the note 5 is as snappy and lag free as the Nexus 6P. I give the Note 5 the edge on the camera side and the N6P for the battery. It all comes down to what you need. If you absolutely love the note 5 camera you're going to miss it. If you are familiar and appreciate the stock android experience of the nexus line then by all means get it. Best nexus phone by far you will not regret it.
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dhaugru said:
No have not owned a Note 5 but do own a 64gb S6. Don't like TW and the S6 is starting to stutter and lag. The battery life as well has been awful from the start. I have an OPO as well and it was a decent device (good battery life).
Frost looks great, those chamfered edges really pop and its not nearly as slippery as a glass device. I'm a Nexus guy though....I like using the UI the way Google intended and being first in line for updates.
Good luck man, I have heard good things about the Note 5 so I'm sure you can't go wrong either way.
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I agree the N6P has the best battery life since my OPO definitely a plus.

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