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Best XBMC tv box at the moment jan 2014

I'm in the market for a TV-box that can run XBMC without lags and has a good wifi connection.
there so many different tv-boxes out there that i dont know where to start.
if been eyeing a CS968 a RK3188 ChipSet Based TVBoX but dont really think its plug a play with xbmc.
If there better out there i would like to know
so if someone can point me in the right direction if would be gratefull.
thanks in advance
greetz

Odroid U3 seems good.
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delightone said:
I'm in the market for a TV-box that can run XBMC without lags and has a good wifi connection.
there so many different tv-boxes out there that i dont know where to start.
if been eyeing a CS968 a RK3188 ChipSet Based TVBoX but dont really think its plug a play with xbmc.
If there better out there i would like to know
so if someone can point me in the right direction if would be gratefull.
thanks in advance
greetz
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I have got the Tronsmart T428, XBMC runs great on it but unfortunately they are not going to release a 4.3 or 4.4 ROM for it.

there is a new xbmc build that works nearly everywhere, even KitKat. it's called Beyond XBMC and it is based on SBMC, also can co-exist with any XBMC and wont interfere on their configuration.
http://www.freaktab.com/showthread.php?9603-Beyond-XBMC
also, a Launcher version is also available.
Paired with the custom KitKat rom that's being tested publicly, it is quite good (Minix X7)

A box which can run native linux and has HW decoding.
From what I read when I was looking for a box getting hardware decoding with rockchip is not something that's common.
I finally settled on an MX box. G18REF. much like the pivos, sum vision nano slim, but a bit cheaper. Mine was £56 from a UK ebay seller and I got my father one for £47 from hong kong.
croniccorey has put a lot of of work into MX Linux, a linux build that runs only XBMC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418029
You lose a lot, web browsing, netflix, other android things but they don't really work all that well and if you're wanting XBMC you will want a good experience of XBMC, which you don't get on android.
I have tested this build with 55Mbs mkv files - that's higher than BR, and it plays at 1080p perfectly.
Of course there is the odd error with some encodes, but a pure linux experience is so much better than android

delightone said:
I'm in the market for a TV-box that can run XBMC without lags and has a good wifi connection.
there so many different tv-boxes out there that i dont know where to start.
if been eyeing a CS968 a RK3188 ChipSet Based TVBoX but dont really think its plug a play with xbmc.
If there better out there i would like to know
so if someone can point me in the right direction if would be gratefull.
thanks in advance
greetz
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720p videos run out of the box at CS968.
For 1080p you need custom Rom.
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PlutoDelic said:
there is a new xbmc build that works nearly everywhere, even KitKat. it's called Beyond XBMC and it is based on SBMC, also can co-exist with any XBMC and wont interfere on their configuration.
http://www.freaktab.com/showthread.php?9603-Beyond-XBMC
also, a Launcher version is also available.
Paired with the custom KitKat rom that's being tested publicly, it is quite good (Minix X7)
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Haha, that's me. I just put a new version up but it is locked to certain build props. It should play all content far better than beta 2.

the Ouya has dropped to 69.99 on amazon.ca so if your in canada this is a realy good option!
useing SBMC or beyond xbmc on in works well.

Custom Rom
For 1080p you need custom Rom.? What is a custom Rom?

Minix7 with a good custom rom from freaktab and run the beyond xbmc build. My box has never looked/ran so good! I have the mk902 which is great but no body is devving for it yet.
GNote3

one vote for minix x7... it has good development!

Will xbmc run on Dell's HDMI android stick?
Based on the hardware? Specs in link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2636850 Dell HDMI android stick

This looks interesting
I came across his box recently and it looks really good. Xunity Eclipse it is quad core and has a decent looking remote too, I ordered one they are supposed to be shipping around april 10th

vibajajo64 said:
For 1080p you need custom Rom.? What is a custom Rom?
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Now I noticed your question.
A custom Rom is a modified original firmware, usually aiming in deliveringa faster system with extra characteristics like overclocking, kernel tuning etc.
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Hey guys.
I bought the imito qx1 with rk3188 amd external wifi antenna, for 80$. I run stock 4.2.2 and xbmc works flawlessly as well as youtube. I recommend the logitech k400 also.
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delightone said:
I'm in the market for a TV-box that can run XBMC without lags and has a good wifi connection.
there so many different tv-boxes out there that i dont know where to start.
if been eyeing a CS968 a RK3188 ChipSet Based TVBoX but dont really think its plug a play with xbmc.
If there better out there i would like to know
so if someone can point me in the right direction if would be gratefull.
thanks in advance
greetz
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I got a TR-42 which is equivalent to the CS968 from a company called Little Smart Box in the UK, its getting a bit old now so will be looking at getting the next generation of boxes. Im hoping they supply them soon as the support I got was fantastic. Preloaded with everything I could need.

slatri said:
I came across his box recently and it looks really good. Xunity Eclipse it is quad core and has a decent looking remote too, I ordered one they are supposed to be shipping around april 10th
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Looks sweet - but does it simply run XBMC with videos it can find on your local LAN? It seems like the "top" boxes never do this... I don't want to have to buy another chinese made one that'll never get updates
What I basically want is an android device that boots up into XBMC. Sure, quad-core 2gbram etc.. .ec.. helps. but the basics!!!!

MitchRapp said:
Looks sweet - but does it simply run XBMC with videos it can find on your local LAN? It seems like the "top" boxes never do this... I don't want to have to buy another chinese made one that'll never get updates
What I basically want is an android device that boots up into XBMC. Sure, quad-core 2gbram etc.. .ec.. helps. but the basics!!!!
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Good and popular tv boxes like CS968, had many custom roms to choose from.
Some of them were offering the XBMC boot that you request.
So I am guessing that other popular boxes might have such custom rom available.
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I want to buy the MK902 II (with Rockchip RK3288) and 2GB of RAM. I Think it's good but not sure if RK3288 is supported yet. Anyway I think it will be.

Top list of Mini PCs

Hello guys, I just saw this list of all the top Mini PCs for May, thought it looked very useful so wanted to share it.
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Full list here (23 models).
CAN has posted a little article on it also.
It's shocking that Measy A2W Chromecast style dongle. Literally peanuts.

I have two of the Measy style dongles. Worthless IMHO.
Ok. so if you ONLY want to stream from your phone then it's great. and for about $20 it is a good value.
I just received one of the Android TV boxes with the Amlogic S802 processors, M8. while it's just over $100, it's far more useful. Basically turns your tv into an android phone minus the touch screen. XBMC plays most videos including DTS audio and also streams cable tv in HD from my silicon dust HDhomerun prime.
Enjoy.

Icyman said:
I have two of the Measy style dongles. Worthless IMHO.
Ok. so if you ONLY want to stream from your phone then it's great. and for about $20 it is a good value.
I just received one of the Android TV boxes with the Amlogic S802 processors, M8. while it's just over $100, it's far more useful. Basically turns your tv into an android phone minus the touch screen. XBMC plays most videos including DTS audio and also streams cable tv in HD from my silicon dust HDhomerun prime.
Enjoy.
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Indeed, the larger boxes (Mini PCs) are worth the extra bucks. The little Chromecast style Ezcast M2 streaming dongles are handy for 20/30 bucks. But the larger units where its at.
Saying that there are two new units recently announced. RK3288 based. Ugoos UM3 dongle, and the mini PC TV box style is the Ugoos UT3.
Supporting 2K and 4K video playback and recording.

BlobLobba said:
Indeed, the larger boxes (Mini PCs) are worth the extra bucks. The little Chromecast style Ezcast M2 streaming dongles are handy for 20/30 bucks. But the larger units where its at.
Saying that there are two new units recently announced. RK3288 based. Ugoos UM3 dongle, and the mini PC TV box style is the Ugoos UT3.
Supporting 2K and 4K video playback and recording.
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I think i may wait for the Ugoos Ut3 as it has RK3288 CPU.
I have the Mk809iv KitKat TV stick and it works fine.

Looks like a screenshot of a web store.

britoso said:
Looks like a screenshot of a web store.
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It's a Newsletter they send out. Sometimes it's Mini PC, sometimes tablets, phones and so on. I find it handy for keeping up with what's released and available. I just entered my email to sign up and then after that you get one around once or twice a week. Normally has around 18 devices.

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It's a Newsletter they send out. Sometimes it's Mini PC, sometimes tablets, phones and so on. I find it handy for keeping up with what's released and available. I just entered my email to sign up and then after that you get one around once or twice a week. Normally has around 18 devices.
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The thread title is misleading, its not a top list of anything.

PS4 Remote Play With Sony Xperia Z3

Hey Guys and Gals
So we know the Sony Xperia Z3 features PS4 Remote play, anybody going to be grabbing one for this purpose?
It would be great to get the PS4 Remote play feature ported to other devices, lets see what our great developers can do
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It's a nice feature and I do plan to pick up a PS4 in the future so it works for me.
Realistically, I probably won't use it much.... perhaps only if I really want to play my game and watch TV/streams at the same time.

I'd honestly love remote play for non games. Eg watching blu ray extras (or even just listening to commentaries). Stuff I can't really be bothered using the full home theatre for. I mean I used to use my PSP for remote playing PlayTV recordings on my ps3

Really interested in this. Hopefully someone can bring it to non Sony devices if Sony doesn't or takes it sweet time doing so.

It's pretty much the only reason I'm considering this phone. Otherwise I'd get a Vita and keep my GS4. Already have a Nyko mount on my PS4 controller (IGN/SMS, no streaming) the GS4

canestim said:
Really interested in this. Hopefully someone can bring it to non Sony devices if Sony doesn't or takes it sweet time doing so.
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Let's hope Dev's help out owners of other phones so they can enjoy this feature... Sony have stated though that this is exclusive to Sony phones, the newer ones in particular and they won't be making it compatible with other handsets. You can never say never though I guess, personally I can't wait to get a Z3 when I get paid, even though I've only recently bought a Nexus 5 lol

This is the thing I own.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FLLFGO8

I own the PS4 (Destiny pack) and now the Z3. I don't know how to use remote play? Same Wi-Fi access?
By the way, someone at Sony told me that the official DualShock 4/Z3 smart clip will be released in November.

bel57 said:
I own the PS4 (Destiny pack) and now the Z3. I don't know how to use remote play? Same Wi-Fi access?
By the way, someone at Sony told me that the official DualShock 4/Z3 smart clip will be released in November.
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I have both the Z3 and PS4 destiny too
Unfortunately the proper PS4 remote play app has not been released yet. Yes you can use the Playstation App for second screen etc in the meantime like other smartphones but the remote play feature isn't due until november.

I see, they announced this feature but it's not available yet. Too bad :silly:

This appears to be a neutered version of Remote Play in comparison to what is offered through the Vita. I say this because it sounds as if Remote Play will only work at home on the same WiFi network as your PS4, not over the internet like the Vita's Remote Play offers? Is this true? If so, has the genius Android user base found a way to work around this yet? To me the feature is completely useless if it only works at home, if I am at home I will use my PS4 on a TV.

mgftp said:
This appears to be a neutered version of Remote Play in comparison to what is offered through the Vita. I say this because it sounds as if Remote Play will only work at home on the same WiFi network as your PS4, not over the internet like the Vita's Remote Play offers? Is this true? If so, has the genius Android user base found a way to work around this yet? To me the feature is completely useless if it only works at home, if I am at home I will use my PS4 on a TV.
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Why would you even think about serious gaming over 3G or 4G? - The latency will be so high it will just be too much of a lag-fest for it to be playable (I've tried with my Vita and its pants even over Wifi with my PS4 being on fibre optic internet).
The main difference here is that you can use a Dualshock 4 pad with remote play - its the main thing that put me off vita for remote play - them stupid touch buttons underneath had to be used.
As long as Sony make it work properly it will be more than worth the wait - Destiny in bed lol

zoomee said:
Why would you even think about serious gaming over 3G or 4G? - The latency will be so high it will just be too much of a lag-fest for it to be playable (I've tried with my Vita and its pants even over Wifi with my PS4 being on fibre optic internet).
The main difference here is that you can use a Dualshock 4 pad with remote play - its the main thing that put me off vita for remote play - them stupid touch buttons underneath had to be used.
As long as Sony make it work properly it will be more than worth the wait - Destiny in bed lol
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Oh I am not wanting to play games online with it, just offline stuff.

@zoomee
Dont try to describe lagging, most of them dont understand.
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Im afraid we can only use this remote feature when our bootloader is locked with all drm features.
PS Vita has to less power for remote play, it lags a little, using L2 and R2 buttons suck and the screen quality is bad.
The remote play feature was my reason to buy a Z3.

As far as I know, they said the same thing about remote play on the vita. It isn't officially supported, but it works fine. No reason to think it won't be the same on the Z3.

So anybody any idea when it will become available? Just read this morning that firmware update 2.0 for the PS4 will come out on the 28th of October. Hopefully the remote play app will be released as well.

Just in case you have doubts about latency, low frame rate, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV5OfrBi2GU

smalovic said:
As far as I know, they said the same thing about remote play on the vita. It isn't officially supported, but it works fine. No reason to think it won't be the same on the Z3.
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That would be great, hopefully someone can confirm this soon.

Does anyone have the game control mount thingy? I ordered it from amazon on the 8th October and it's still out of stock to this day.....

I ordered one from Petra a few weeks ago when they had some in Stock. It works well
http://www.petra.com/nyko-83201-playstation-4-smart-clip.html
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Is nvidia shield android tv worth buying at this point?

My knockoff android tv set-top box is crap so I am considering to buy nvidia shield android TV. Considering it was released just under a year ago, I am worried that there will be a better version released soon and I would spend my money on obsolete version. Will there be a newer version soon?

A year goes by, and nothing has been able to beat it thusfar.
Nvidia are quite good with long term support, so expect this device to last atleast another three to five years.
This is a box aimed at the livingroom. They aren't going to bring one out every year. That's the whole reason they made it 13 times more powerful than anything else out there.
You just have to compare the latest flagship Galaxy S7 with the Shield TV to see that.
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Yup. Just a pity its let down by the latest v3.0 upgrade.

Better off getting an Amazon Fire TV 4K if your not interested in the gaming side.

silverblack said:
Better off getting an Amazon Fire TV 4K if your not interested in the gaming side.
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No no no. It doesn't even have close to the future standard of 4k video will be. It is 30hz, not hdmi 2.0, doesn't support 10 bit color, etc, etc. The shield is the only thing that wll still work with 4k netflx in a couple years everything else will be deemed "outdated".

nate56567 said:
No no no. It doesn't even have close to the future standard of 4k video will be. It is 30hz, not hdmi 2.0, doesn't support 10 bit color, etc, etc. The shield is the only thing that wll still work with 4k netflx in a couple years everything else will be deemed "outdated".
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Well seeing as i dont have a 4K TV those setting are irrelevent at the moment.
Also the Fire TV is £85 cheaper than the Shield just now so yes,yes yes :good:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00UH2O6T2/ref=fs_aftv

silverblack said:
Well seeing as i dont have a 4K TV those setting are irrelevent at the moment.
Also the Fire TV is £85 cheaper than the Shield just now so yes,yes yes :good:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00UH2O6T2/ref=fs_aftv
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If you don't have a 4k tv then yes I guess don't get the shield. Without 4k it's just a big toy to be honest.

nate56567 said:
If you don't have a 4k tv then yes I guess don't get the shield. Without 4k it's just a big toy to be honest.
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Thats why i have one love gadgets :good:

nate56567 said:
If you don't have a 4k tv then yes I guess don't get the shield. Without 4k it's just a big toy to be honest.
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Nice. Got the item delivered today. It's upgrading it to 3.0 on its own.
Considering that I do have a 4K TV, good investment.
Thanks guys.

To be honest, yes it's the best buy you can make. There are some issuies with 3.0, but they are fixing it. Also keep in mind that you can bevefit from allot of feautres of the shield tv like if you have a GTX GPU

Price on the hardware is going down, more and more reasons to own one over time, and the AnTutu benchmark app listed my shield android tv (with tons of apps running in the background) as being nearly twice the total performance overall of the 2nd place result. It's not the best of everything, but where it shines ... it shines a lot , where it's not the best, it's still able to compete with some of the best out there. It's been out about a year, and yet it's still the highest performing device. It plays everything you throw at it... and there's so much it does right that I can't suggest against owning one unless the person can't afford it.

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Better off getting an Amazon Fire TV 4K if your not interested in the gaming side.
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Please don't listen to this guy. The Shield can do HDMI 2.0, 4K output, 4:4:4 chroma, bitstream audio,etc, etc. Basically the newest most current technology.

Gasaraki- said:
Please don't listen to this guy. The Shield can do HDMI 2.0, 4K output, 4:4:4 chroma, bitstream audio,etc, etc. Basically the newest most current technology.
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Thats great if your interested in all that crap but im not !
Oh and BTW i have a Shield. !

Shield 2?

I'm looking at picking up a Shield TV in the next few months, but wanted to see if there might be a newer version coming out. I know the Roku releases new models every year or so, and it's been about a year since the release of the Shield. Is there any buzz about a new/upcoming version out there?
Thanks

If a new version were to come out in the near future it would most likely be another mobile device & not a set top box

I would agree on this. SATV still offers the best hardware, and next software update will continue to add features (youtube 4k 60fps for example).
I don't really see what a Shield 2 could offer more right now, I mean besides more perfs but as of today nothing trumps the SATV 1.
A new Shield tablet would benefit on the contrary from a SOC pascal-based for example, since the SOC it's using now is older than the one in SATV

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I would agree on this. SATV still offers the best hardware, and next software update will continue to add features (youtube 4k 60fps for example).
I don't really see what a Shield 2 could offer more right now, I mean besides more perfs but as of today nothing trumps the SATV 1.
A new Shield tablet would benefit on the contrary from a SOC pascal-based for example, since the SOC it's using now is older than the one in SATV
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The next software update hit a pop-fly right outta left field with the Shield TV being a full Plex Media Server now with transcoding too.

Its out of stock everywhere even on the Nvidia website so something is happening.

There is an FCC filing for a new one, which is a pretty good indicator.
http://www.aftvnews.com/new-nvidia-shield-tv-passes-through-the-fcc/
Also I saw something on reddit, when someone asked why it was out of stock everywhere, but this was mostly speculation.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidTV/comments/50nzud/nvidia_shield_tv_discontinued/
I would say chances are pretty good that a new SATV is on the way. Timing and release date would be hard to pin down.

just to temper things there was an fcc filing for a new tablet and that didnt happen , admittedly the lack of stock does usually hint at a new release but who knows if its just a rev of the same setup
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As for the discontinued Tablet 2, that was considered due to nVidia providing the SoC for Nintendo's NX (to not compete). So I guess, it's a good sign that the SATV refresh is really coming soon (until holiday season?) as the form factor is quite different. Too bad they close it down so much.

I would assume the new one would maybe be designed to be cheaper. Or maybe a removable HD would be awesome.

Let's hope nvidia don't axe it completely. They have been known to do more professional and ODM stuff then consumer, and the switch is comming.

Surprised nobody has mentioned this.
https://www.nvidia.co.uk/shield/

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Surprised nobody has mentioned this.
https://www.nvidia.co.uk/shield/
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not sure its a shield 2, just appears slightly smaller with a different gamepad. hardware spec seems to be the same
the new rear layout
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/nvidia-shield-tv-pro-media-streamer-500gb-tegra-x1-processor-3gb-ram-4k-hdr-ready-hdmi-gbe-2xusb-30-
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the old layout
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/nvidia-shield-pro-500gb-including-controller-android-tv-4k-video-and-cloud-gaming

It's definitely the new Shield or as good as it going to get.
Lost the Sd card slot now.
Same innards and a re-design,mostly extra software features that the original Shield will get too.

Mid gen console refresh, loosing sdcard and a better gamepad you can buy to use in old model too. That's all.
"Old" model will get Nougat as an OS upgrade and will have the same functionality.

Why on earth would they take the sd card out?

HDMI port is now 2.0b
And it looks like it also lost the IR receiver.

does the original not have 2.0b

Sub-Negro said:
Why on earth would they take the sd card out?
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it's still there, look a the amazon picture of the back of it, it's better quality.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61OJ4TODznL._SL1500_.jpg
i'm curious if this will support side loading apps without root and how easy it is to root before i fork up the cash for this thing.
going to wait a bit for customer feedback first before i buy imo.

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HDMI port is now 2.0b
And it looks like it also lost the IR receiver.
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HUYI said:
it's still there, look a the amazon picture of the back of it, it's better quality.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61OJ4TODznL._SL1500_.jpg
i'm curious if this will support side loading apps without root and how easy it is to root before i fork up the cash for this thing.
going to wait a bit for customer feedback first before i buy imo.
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Looking at the spec sheet on nVidias website, it looks like only the pro version has the ir receiver, micro sd, and micro usb connection. Semi-confirmed by amazon closeups.

Is this really worth calling it a Sheild TV2? It seems to me it's more like a Shield TV Slim. As to the IR Port, until we start seeing the first YouTube reviews crop up. I'll continue to trust the released Spec Sheet that states that it'll have one.
On that same topic, both the Gamepad, and Remote on the 2017 Models should also come with an IR Blaster. nNot for the Shield, which uses either Bluetooth 4.1 BLE, or WiFi Direct. But to control other AVrs, and TVs.