This evening I went to the ATT store to get them to swap out my (GoPhone) micro-SIM for a new nano-SIM
Remembering a post over at AP (http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...being-withheld-but-it-doesnt-actually-matter/) I asked the guy:
"I've heard that if I put an ATT SIM in my unlocked phone your netwrok will claim the phone as yours and then it'll be on your update schedule and not on Google's updates"
He said "That doesn't seem right, but let me ask" and goes in back.
Then he comes back out with a colleague, who confirms it.
That seems nuts.
Anyone else have this problem? Anyone encounter it on their Nexus 6?
Thoughts?
edit for email sub. doooh!
We can always flash the OTA ourselves even if that does happen. I didn't notice that behavior on my Nexus 5, was it a Nexus 6 only thing?
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I think that is true only of a phone they they carry.... This phone not being sold through att they would never have an update for it
Your first mistake was believing what a clown working at a cell phone store said.
OTA updates are always released by carriers aren't they? In the case of these nexus phones they just don't mess with them I thought.
I'm sure I'm wrong...lol. It just seems like Sprint, for example, always seems to know ahead of time and releases a document about the OTAs.
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OTA updates are always released by carriers aren't they? In the case of these nexus phones they just don't mess with them I thought.
I'm sure I'm wrong...lol. It just seems like Sprint, for example, always seems to know ahead of time and releases a document about the OTAs.
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Carriers deliver their OTAs for phones that they sell and provide support for. But the Nexus OTAs come from teh Google themselves. Some folks were notified of the OTA on the 5x prior to installing a SIM, just being on wifi.
I had the N6 and bought it through AT&T and I can confirm that I never had to wait for an OTA update through the carrier. Those workers in the stores hardly ever know what they're talking about except their own talking points for each new phone to get you to buy it.
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Your first mistake was believing what a clown working at a cell phone store said.
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This. 99% of them don't even know what a "nexus" is either.
5x / 6p are not carrier phones and have nothing to do with this. You will receive ota's from google directly. Plus its a nexus, most owners are tweaking on their own anyways its why many of us buy this.
The OTA update you receive depends on which SIM card you have in the device. If you don't want a carrier specific OTA, remove your SIM and connect to WiFi when the OTA starts rolling out (assuming you are not on a carrier-specific build already).
Have a look at the Nexus 6 OTA update thread, and you'll see that there were separate builds for T-Mobile, Fi, Sprint, etc. Although unlikely it is possible that Google may not have them for the 5X.
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There are three separate downloads for the Nexus 5X already posted on the Google Dev website. They're not labeled like the Nexus 6.
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There are three separate downloads for the Nexus 5X already posted on the Google Dev website. They're not labeled like the Nexus 6.
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You're right. The first few builds for the 5X are not labeled like the later downloads for the N6. But neither were the first few downloads for the Nexus 6.
OK I'm in for confirmation as well. Currently have this and an MXPE. this will be instantly returned if that ends up being true (but I doubt)
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OK I'm in for confirmation as well. Currently have this and an MXPE. this will be instantly returned if that ends up being true (but I doubt)
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At the end of the day, it makes no difference anyway: all the images are provided and you can choose whichever one you want to flash. There's nothing stopping someone from flashing an AT&T build (if there ends up being one) on a Sprint device or vice-versa.
I found op's post on Google forums. Here's the reply he got
Welcome to the Nexus Help Forum.
Generally if you have a locked phone (i.e. works on a specific carrier like AT&T or Sprint), the AT&T rep is correct. You would be subject to any Android or phone updates from carrier. This is generally the case for recent Nexus locked phones like the Nexus 6 model.
However if you purchased an unlocked phone from the Google Store like the recent Nexus 5X and 6P, you should be able to receive your Android OS OTA updates directly from Google.
Alternatively, you do have the option of flashing a factory image from the Google Developers page directly to your Nexus 6 - thereby skipping the OTA updates from your carrier or Google. Flashing factory images is an option we recommend for users' who've had experience flashing their Android smartphones or tablets before. To find out more about this option, click on the link to the Google Developers website.
Hopefully this answers your question completely.
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JP
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I work at a tmobile store and two of my coworkers are also nexus users and on xda.
So although this may be common, there are exceptions such as my store
OP here. Called Google. They said these guys are mistaken and there's no way they are locking the phone to the network. Even if ATT were delaying the OTA updates for unlocked non-ATT phones, you could still get it over wifi.
As we thought.
Nexus phones receive OTA's from Google directly, not from the carrier.
I don't know if that can be said if you bought your Nexus from the carrier though. I've bought all my Nexus devices directly from Google.
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Nexus phones receive OTA's from Google directly, not from the carrier.
I don't know if that can be said if you bought your Nexus from the carrier though. I've bought all my Nexus devices directly from Google.
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OTA updates for Nexus devices used on Wi-Fi (i.e., used without a SIM card) come from Google. If you have any SIM card in your device, it comes from Google, but via the carrier. So, even if you bought your device from Google's website, your update will come via AT&T if you are using an AT&T SIM. This was figured out with the Nexus 6: those that had bought their device from Google and were using it with a T-Mobile SIM card received a different OTA update than those that bought their device from Google and were using it with an AT&T SIM card, and likewise with those that bought it from Google, but were using it with a Sprint SIM card.
The bottom line is that you will receive the OTA update which updates you to the "best" build for that carrier, if the builds are going to be indeed optimized on the 5X.
In any case though, it does not matter one bit, as the factory images are posted on Google's website, so, if you wish to flash a T-Mobile ROM while you are using a Sprint SIM, by all means, fill your boots.
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Ok i just ordered a nexus one unlocked and i was wondering, Will i receive updates OTA from Google? I live in the middle east.
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I don't see why you wouldn't.
Most people say that the carrier T-mobile or others have released a update..they never say google has released an update
With it being an unlocked phone, I don't think it's going to matter which carrier you're on, it'll just be pushed directly to the phone.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Or should i root the nexus one and stick with custom ROMs, i did it with my G1 but i'm afraid it will get bricked! and then i have to spend 528$ on it again.
I believe it will matter which carrier youre on, just as it does for the G1, when you get your update depends on when your carrier pushes it out. However if you root it you can always apply the new roms, which usually come out earlier anyways. Other than that im not sure. It also may be that google will put the updates out for download like htc does.
We didn't buy from a carrier we bought an unlocked phone from google. This is why google made their own phone - because carriers are months late in pushing updates.. if they ever do. It's not analagous to the G1, which had to be sourced via a carrier.
I guess ill just wait until there is a new update and see if my nexus one gets updated, if not then i'm going to root thanks!
Hello - Just spoke to one of the local ATT stores...he said the nationwide Nexus 6 shipment has a software bug and they were all sent back. He did not know when the new shipment will be sent out. SUCKS
The stock firmware is the same between AT&T stock and the rest of the stock. Maybe AT&T is recalling the phones because they forgot to lock down the bootloaders also? :laugh:
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The stock firmware is the same between AT&T stock and the rest of the stock. Maybe AT&T is recalling the phones because they forgot to lock down the bootloaders also? :laugh:
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haha good one.
I'd love to know what this "bug" is. I'm sure we can fix it ourselves rather than go through the hassle of sending it in.
Also, does it affect only in-store purchases, pre-orders, or all AT&T Nexus 6 units?
I was thinking the same too. I visited some 3 at&t stores this morning and they all had the same story. The guy at the last store was very cool and honestly told me the recall is most likely because at&t forgot to lock down some things.
I suspect the bootloader.
He told me if i am looking to pay the full price, i shouldnt get it from at&t. He does make sense.
Lol recalled for bug is bs.
i saw some vids yesterday of people who got their phone from at&t, and the accessibility option for blind people was set on first boot, making him unable to get out of the locksceen or power off the phone easily.
could be it
If its hardware related fine..but software can easily be fixed since the factory images are out. No reason to recall with factory images available. I guess it's cause they don't want ppl claiming they still defective devices.
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If its hardware related fine..but software can easily be fixed since the factory images are out. No reason to recall with factory images available. I guess it's cause they don't want ppl claiming they still defective devices.
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Most of the public has no idea what a factory image is.
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Most of the public has no idea what a factory image is.
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Most of the public isn't buying nexus device.
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Most of the public isn't buying nexus device.
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They might start. Big beautiful phone available at the retail store like all the others. Well eventually.
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Most of the public isn't buying nexus device.
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I dunno. At a carrier store I bet most buyers are general public who has no idea what a factory image is.
My local at&t is still selling them today. Maybe they didn't get the memo. Tempted to go get one before they decide to lock the bootloader
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I got mine in yesterday. Since I had to get the shipped sim changed over to my number, instead of the wife's, I booted up, without a sim and loved not seeing any ATT bloat on the phone. Once I got the sim activated, and confirmed it was working, I immediately:
- OEM Unlock check
- unlocked with kit
- rooted with kit
- removed the emblem on back
- inserted activated sim
No bloatware, no issues whatsoever. I think I'll keep mine, and not return it to ATT.
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i saw some vids yesterday of people who got their phone from at&t, and the accessibility option for blind people was set on first boot, making him unable to get out of the locksceen or power off the phone easily.
could be it
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The report at http://www.droid-life.com/2014/11/2...p-nexus-6-inventory-back-due-to-software-bug/ describes the issue similarly; i.e., the display not turning on at first boot.
What I'm wondering is how that could happen if the ROM is the same as other Nexi, and the only AT&T customizations are supposedly the boot animations/ringtones on a special oem partition, and something plugged into the carrier init sequence (when you put in your SIM and select your carrier) that's downloading a couple apps from the play store.
I also wonder what the capabilities of the carrier init plugin are -- can it update radios or other parts of the ROM? Enable/disable things like VoLTE support?
Was reading on gplus some att users turned on their n6 and there was kitkat. Quality control issues.
They realized the death star logo can can be scratched off with a credit card... Had to take them back to reprint with permanent ink.
Is this something I should be concerned with? I got one of the first shipments but my phone is running fine so whats up? Why can't they just tell us?
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They realized the death star logo can can be scratched off with a credit card... Had to take them back to reprint with permanent ink.
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Actually it was because they had VZW logo's instead of AT&T. :laugh:
First they decide to throw their retarded branding on their crop oft he Nexus 6 devices, then they send the units back because they either 1) failed to lock it down or 2) screwed up something usability related when they decided to throw their bloatware bull**** on the phones.
Either way, s#*t like this makes me happy I'm not an ATT customer anymore. F*@k that company.
obviously take this with a huge grain of salt, but just had a live chat with VZW rep to ask about the N6. I do this randomly just to see what kind of (non) answers I get.
However, this dude fired back with an exact date of February 26th. That date is on a Thursday, which is traditionally the day that Verizon launches new phones. Just struck me odd that he had such a specific answer, and went on to say that he had just recently been given the information.
Of course I've tried to live chat again three times since then, and each one of the reps said that they have no information about the N6 lol.
Take it for what it's worth.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ck2umbvxavggzk/PicsArt_1420293163355.jpg?dl=0
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Lol only 4 months after every other provider. Just enough time to load it up with bloat and bugs.
on a sidenote, anyone know why I can't upload an image?
very frustrating.
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I was also informed today and "assured" by a verizon rep (via chat) that they would be getting the Nexus 6 on February 26. They also said that the Samsung Note Edge would be coming out January 8th. I guess that will be the first test of this reps information.
My money is on April 1st.
Verizon sales
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I was also informed today and "assured" by a verizon rep (via chat) that they would be getting the Nexus 6 on February 26. They also said that the Samsung Note Edge would be coming out January 8th. I guess that will be the first test of this reps information.
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I can tell you with 100% certainty that the note edge will be released on january 8th for verizon...no word on the nexus 6 for sure but i have also heard february 26th
Eh, i am not going to believe any rep. As far as this goes, i worked for Tmobile and ATT customer support and we where never really told anything ahead of time from everyone else. We where told to keep customers either happy or holding on with the company. It has been a few years ago from that though, so i dont know if that policy has changed. :good:
I got tired of waiting for Verizon and bought directly from Motorola using their finance program. Received my phone in 3 days Cut down my Sim card and I'm good to go.
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jett2314 said:
I got tired of waiting for Verizon and bought directly from Motorola using their finance program. Received my phone in 3 days Cut down my Sim card and I'm good to go.
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Same here. Works like a champ
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obviously take this with a huge grain of salt, but just had a live chat with VZW rep to ask about the N6. I do this randomly just to see what kind of (non) answers I get.
However, this dude fired back with an exact date of February 26th. That date is on a Thursday, which is traditionally the day that Verizon launches new phones. Just struck me odd that he had such a specific answer, and went on to say that he had just recently been given the information.
Of course I've tried to live chat again three times since then, and each one of the reps said that they have no information about the N6 lol.
Take it for what it's worth.
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A poster on Reddit said he was told at a corporate store the same thing. The rep, after looking it up, said the computer was showing February 26th availability.
and i just asked and was told there is no scheduled release. thats pretty far ahead for a release date anyway.
i just asked two reps and i got nothing out of either one of them
I just want VoLTE already on my Nexus. No voice and data simultaneously is a bit annoying and per usual is probably because of Waiting for Verizon release their version.
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I recently bought the Nexus 6 and is currently running on the Verizon Network. Originally, the local Verizon dealer refused to add the Nexus 6 phone to the network since it was not a "Verizon Phone". My philosophy is, "Never let a multi multi multi billion dollar tech company tell what they cant do". By saying this, I called the Verizon Tier 2 support and they were able to activate the phone from their location bought using the same simcard number that was used from my Note 2 phone. Now, after two days, I was booted off the Verizon network and was told via message that I need to sign back on the Verizon network. After a few days corresponding with tier 2 tech support, the reason for the booting off the system was i was using a new "nano simcard" which resulted in a new simcard number. Originally, they recommended that i find someone with a new Motorola phone and activate my simcard through their phone ( long story) and then re-transfer back to the new simcard for the Nexus 6 to work but that greatly avoided. As a result, my Nexus 6 is currently working without any problems . Lastly, they will have to submit a "DMD Form" to "register" your non-Verizon phone. Hope this helps.
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I recently bought the Nexus 6 and is currently running on the Verizon Network. Originally, the local Verizon dealer refused to add the Nexus 6 phone to the network since it was not a "Verizon Phone". My philosophy is, "Never let a multi multi multi billion dollar tech company tell what they cant do". By saying this, I called the Verizon Tier 2 support and they were able to activate the phone from their location bought using the same simcard number that was used from my Note 2 phone. Now, after two days, I was booted off the Verizon network and was told via message that I need to sign back on the Verizon network. After a few days corresponding with tier 2 tech support, the reason for the booting off the system was i was using a new "nano simcard" which resulted in a new simcard number. Originally, they recommended that i find someone with a new Motorola phone and activate my simcard through their phone ( long story) and then re-transfer back to the new simcard for the Nexus 6 to work but that greatly avoided. As a result, my Nexus 6 is currently working without any problems . Lastly, they will have to submit a "DMD Form" to "register" your non-Verizon phone. Hope this helps.
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That sounds like too much work and a big hassle just to stay with a carrier. Its reminiscent of when I had Verizon a few year ago.
I wonder if VZW will try to lock down the Nexus and if Google will let them.
Sorry for the newbie question.
When you said you cut the (VZW) Sim card and inserted it, the phone booted up and you started using it as simple as that?
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I think China may get the phone before Verizon.
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/01/0...he-moto-x-pro-like-the-nexus-6-but-for-china/
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Sorry for the newbie question.
When you said you cut the (VZW) Sim card and inserted it, the phone booted up and you started using it as simple as that?
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Yes, that simple. I am with VZW. I had a Galaxy S3 with a Micro SIM. I picked up a punch on Amazon (I didn't trust trying to use scissors but many people have success with them) ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FW70ZF6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ).
I got my N6, unlocked it, decrypted it, rooted it, transferred apps via Titanium Backup, and then punched the SIM and moved it from the GS3 to the N6. Booted up and it worked. Have not had any problems at all. *knock* *knock*
A Verizon nexus is NOT a nexus. Is just another fully OEM Verizon locked device.
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That sounds like too much work and a big hassle just to stay with a carrier. Its reminiscent of when I had Verizon a few year ago.
I wonder if VZW will try to lock down the Nexus and if Google will let them.
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If bought directly from Verizon.. Yes locked boot loader with modified software/firmware tampered trip counter and of course Verizon proprietary bloatware.
The online chat reps are the worst... If it is really true that VZW will carry it on 2/26 add another one to two months cause of supply issues + VZW tramp stamp time.
Just found this article and I thought I'd share it with y'all. Hopefully it won't get pushed back again.
http://phandroid.com/2015/02/25/exclusive-verizon-nexus-6-launch-march-12th/
This should put its release right around the release of the Galaxy S6 and maybe HTC one M9. What do y'all think of this?
I think what could they POSSIBLY be doing that requires them to release it this long after other carriers? Does it take that long to test if bloatware works on it? Are they just trolling? Or are they fighting back and forth with Google trying to get permission to lock down the bootloader like a chastity belt?
i am pissed at vzw .. i waited patiently for this day. and no release.
i may wait till march 12th. but if they don't release it then i am off to tmobile
I'm trying to decide if I want to wait. I unfortunately am stuck on the edge up program. I really want the nexus 6 though but not if VZW has ruined (like they usually do). And I fear that they are ruining it right now.
quick question guys
i have 2 lines. mine is a galaxy s3 that has been out of the 2 year contract since september. i have been waiting for verizon to release the nexus but i am sick of getting jerked around besides i live out in the sticks so i am forced to use a network extender because i have no signal at my home and i just found out t-mobile has wifi calling and texting.
my other line is my brothers lg g3 that he got in september of last year. so he is still paying it off.
question 1.. will t mobile pay my early termination fees if i decide to switch.
question 2.. will my brother be forced to pay off the remaining balance of his phone? or does t mobile pay that too if he transfers his phone to t-mobile?
thanks guys for any input
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quick question guys
i have 2 lines. mine is a galaxy s3 that has been out of the 2 year contract since september. i have been waiting for verizon to release the nexus but i am sick of getting jerked around besides i live out in the sticks so i am forced to use a network extender because i have no signal at my home and i just found out t-mobile has wifi calling and texting.
my other line is my brothers lg g3 that he got in september of last year. so he is still paying it off.
question 1.. will t mobile pay my early termination fees if i decide to switch.
question 2.. will my brother be forced to pay off the remaining balance of his phone? or does t mobile pay that too if he transfers his phone to t-mobile?
thanks guys for any input
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Wouldn't it be easier to ask T-Mobile directly?
Try their free test run first before you switch. I tried them and while their corporate customer service was flat out amazing, the signal was terrible anywhere but large cities and the WiFi calling was a joke, literally had the 56k dial tone pop up during conversations...
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Try their free test run first before you switch. I tried them and while their corporate customer service was flat out amazing, the signal was terrible anywhere but large cities and the WiFi calling was a joke, literally had the 56k dial tone pop up during conversations...
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thanks that is a great idea. i live in central NJ so far i am seeing good things about the coverage in my area. and towards NY.
i will try the free test drive thing and see if it is a good fit for me.
it looks like they will pay the termination fees. and according to their site they will give my bro 130 dollars for his phone as a trade in.
maybe he would have better luck on swappa or ebay.
but it will cut my bill from 700 minutes of phone (old plan i never updated) and 2 gb of data each for 180 a month from verzon to unlimited phone text and data from t-mobile for 129 a month which includes the financing for the nexus 6.
thanks guys for the info
I hear this may be due to VoLTE implementation for the N6. Does that mean that if I bought the Motorola/Google Play version that I'm out of luck with VoLTE?
http://phandroid.com/2015/02/26/exclusive-verizon-nexus-6-march-12-android-5-1-volte-support/
If this is true, it make the lateness of the release almost null.
I got mine from t-mobile I hope I get VOLTE because I really miss my web and phone at the same time.
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Google no longer allows carriers to preinstall their own apps on Nexus phones. Lollipop has a new feature that checks to see which carrier's sim card is in the phone. Then it downloads the so-called bloatware to the phone during initial setup just like Nokia's carrier branded Windows Phones do. I am curious though. Google previously said that Nexus 6 phones bought from the Google Play store would work on any of the big four USA carriers. Is this still true? Can I take an unlocked Sprint Nexus 6 phone (if unlocking is even required) and pop in a Verizon sim card?
One note of interest no one has mentioned. I read that it will be 5.1 out of the box. Could this possibly mean that we will see 5.1 before the March Verizon release date?
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Google no longer allows carriers to preinstall their own apps on Nexus phones. Lollipop has a new feature that checks to see which carrier's sim card is in the phone. Then it downloads the so-called bloatware to the phone during initial setup just like Nokia's carrier branded Windows Phones do. I am curious though. Google previously said that Nexus 6 phones bought from the Google Play store would work on any of the big four USA carriers. Is this still true? Can I take an unlocked Sprint Nexus 6 phone (if unlocking is even required) and pop in a Verizon sim card?
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Thats incorrect google is allowing carriers to install apps but need to be able to be removed. Check the att thread out.
If u buy a carrier branded device like the nexus 6 from att unless that is paid off the phone is sim locked. Also depends on if the devices are sim locked. As of right now i know that the att is sim locked till the device is paid out of contract or bought paid in full. then u can request a key. All nexus 6 OS firmware are the same. Its a universal software. Just added bloat per company will be added for updates.
Edit: Also google even stated that now updates wont come as fast for carrier devices pending partners.
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One note of interest no one has mentioned. I read that it will be 5.1 out of the box. Could this possibly mean that we will see 5.1 before the March Verizon release date?
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I honestly dont think it will be released out of the box. I think the phones will come with 5.0 and then you can update to 5.1. Also there is rumors verizon may not allow these devices on edge.
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I honestly dont think it will be released out of the box. I think the phones will come with 5.0 and then you can update to 5.1. Also there is rumors verizon may not allow these devices on edge.
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Source of this rumor? I'm not aware of any device they carry that isn't available on Edge. Not sure why this would be any exception.
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Source of this rumor? I'm not aware of any device they carry that isn't available on Edge. Not sure why this would be any exception.
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its all he said she said on xda. Check in this thread or a few other verizon threads for the nexus. Some think verizon wont and some say verizon will. We actually wont know till the 12th.
Edit: I had a few verizon reps straight out tell me they look down at the rooting/flashing community because they claim it hurts their network. Thats why tmobile is so popular. If they do not allow nexus 6 on edge that would force customers to either pay full or sign a contract. I am not saying its true or not. Just from observation on here.
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its all he said she said on xda. Check in this thread or a few other verizon threads for the nexus. Some think verizon wont and some say verizon will. We actually wont know till the 12th.
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LOL randoms on XDA are hardly a reliable source of info. There's been everything from "Verizon will never get the device" to "Verizon will lock it down, put 50 logos on it, and rename it something else". It's people guessing, making things up, and hating on Verizon because that's the cool thing to do.
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LOL randoms on XDA are hardly a reliable source of info. There's been everything from "Verizon will never get the device" to "Verizon will lock it down, put 50 logos on it, and rename it something else". It's people guessing, making things up, and hating on Verizon because that's the cool thing to do.
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There is still a big chance and possibility since verizon looks down to the community here that they could do that. Verizon doesnt like google. They like samsung and apple. They careless about everything else and what the customers want. Makes you think that how come verizon allows the use of developer devices on their network for limited phones. Mostly samsung. Verizon is always out to make more money. I again am not saying they will not allow it on edge, but it still can be a possibility coming from the fact that its unlockable and cant be altered too much by them.
Edit: Also never stated they were reliable. Just stating from how verizon is and what people think. Anything can be possible with how verizon will take this phone.
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Thats incorrect google is allowing carriers to install apps but need to be able to be removed. Check the att thread out.
If u buy a carrier branded device like the nexus 6 from att unless that is paid off the phone is sim locked. Also depends on if the devices are sim locked. As of right now i know that the att is sim locked till the device is paid out of contract or bought paid in full. then u can request a key. All nexus 6 OS firmware are the same. Its a universal software. Just added bloat per company will be added for updates.
Edit: Also google even stated that now updates wont come as fast for carrier devices pending partners.
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I honestly dont think it will be released out of the box. I think the phones will come with 5.0 and then you can update to 5.1. Also there is rumors verizon may not allow these devices on edge.
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Google has never made such a comment publicly regarding carrier bloatware and software updates. There's nothing to prevent someone from flashing a factory image designed for Google Play store devices to a Verizon Nexus 6 either, for example. They have, however, stated that Nexus 6 phones always come with no bloatware installed. The bloatware is downloaded during initial setup depending on which carrier's sim card is installed. The main question I have though is if I buy a Nexus 6 from the Google Play store can I pop in a Verizon sim card and have it work on Verizon's network?
Hurts their network? doubt that, because they allow dev editions to function on said network.
If it truly hurt, then none of them would be allowed, it's a $$$ thing.
I've had my Nexus 6p for 1 week and I have not received any OTA update notifications. I'm still running MDA89D (latest is MDB08M??)
I'm on Verizon (with a sim from my Note 4) and have not done any modifications to the phone yet (bootloader, root, etc)
Am I being too impatient? According to the factory images page, (https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?hl=en) I'm already 3 releases behind??
Same for me, however I had to go get a new nano Sim from the Verizon store. I'm also not rooted/unlocked and have not received one update.
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2 phones here (one for me, one for my wife). Mine received an update but hers did not. Interestingly enough, however, mine was up and running without the sim card in it for a while prior to putting it in...I just don't understand how Verizon could be blocking anything...I mean the update comes through Google, not Verizon.
Maybe if there's continued reports of it I'll try stealing my wife's phone and removing the sim card to see if it immediately then gets an update. Sure is odd...
ohlin5 said:
2 phones here (one for me, one for my wife). Mine received an update but hers did not. Interestingly enough, however, mine was up and running without the sim card in it for a while prior to putting it in...I just don't understand how Verizon could be blocking anything...I mean the update comes through Google, not Verizon.
Maybe if there's continued reports of it I'll try stealing my wife's phone and removing the sim card to see if it immediately then gets an update. Sure is odd...
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Interesting. My nephew got his update the day he got the phone. He was running only on wireless because he did not have his Verizon sim card yet. I'm going to try pulling my sim and leaving it on wireless a while. I'll report back if I find anything interesting. Thanks!!
I completely set up my 6p on wifi for a day before getting my nano Sim installed, so no update for me in that respect either.
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Definitely some interesting results here. However, the nexus' updates are different in that OEM's and carriers are kind of "cut out" of the loop....the updates come from Google unless I'm completely missing something. So, my guess would be that maybe, like most updates in general, Google releases them in waves based off SN or IMEI numbers or whatever. I would say chances are good that in the next week or 2 it's hit a lot more devices. Time will tell!
I've been on wifi only since I've gotten my 6p two days ago and no update here. @ohlin5 might be right.
I haven't inserted vz sim yet at all. I received K update at first boot and then M update next day.
I am a bit confused because the help page from Google about system updates mentions that updates should come within 2 weeks of release, but could take longer depending on your carrier.
Not sure if my screenshot image is uploading or not. The quote from the help page is,
"Android updates: Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Nexus 6, Nexus 7, Nexus 9, and Nexus 10 devices get the latest version of Android directly from Google. These devices will receive Android version updates for at least two years from when the device first became available on the Google Store.
Once an update is available, it can take up to two weeks for it to reach your device. Based on your carrier, it may take longer than two weeks after release to get an update."
So is Verizon involved or not? It's very confusing. And a bit disappointing to be so far behind on releases for a new Nexus. I've had my 6P for 5 days now on Verizon, but no update for me either. Still on MDA89D.
kappadappa said:
I am a bit confused because the help page from Google about system updates mentions that updates should come within 2 weeks of release, but could take longer depending on your carrier.
Not sure if my screenshot image is uploading or not. The quote from the help page is,
"Android updates: Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Nexus 6, Nexus 7, Nexus 9, and Nexus 10 devices get the latest version of Android directly from Google. These devices will receive Android version updates for at least two years from when the device first became available on the Google Store.
Once an update is available, it can take up to two weeks for it to reach your device. Based on your carrier, it may take longer than two weeks after release to get an update."
So is Verizon involved or not? It's very confusing. And a bit disappointing to be so far behind on releases for a new Nexus. I've had my 6P for 5 days now on Verizon, but no update for me either. Still on MDA89D.
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That's interesting....I wonder if it maybe has something to do with an update needing to be approved by a carrier, first? I honestly don't know that much about the process...I'm not sure if it just comes straight from Google, goes from Google to carriers for carrier certification and THEN Google ships it to those phones on that carrier, or if it just gets passed to the carrier and on to the phones on that carrier from the carrier themselves. Long story short it once again confirms that no wireless company sucks worse than Verizon. I suppose I should be happy that I even have a nexus with them but I can't bring myself to be grateful for them. Has anyone who hasn't gotten an update tried pulling your sim card and booting the phone up after that to see if it triggers any updates to come through? I feel like that information might help in troubleshooting.
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... Has anyone who hasn't gotten an update tried pulling your sim card and booting the phone up after that to see if it triggers any updates to come through? I feel like that information might help in troubleshooting.
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I tried pulling the sim and rebooting but still no update.
So ive had mine on Verizon for a week now from the moment i turned it on. I didn't know there was any updated available and i have been waiting for Wug NRT to update his toolkit for the N6P. i just noticed he did about an hour ago unlocked my bootloader and when it powered back up it had an update so i accepted it and when it rebooted im now running MDB08L ?! I haven't seen this version and on the Wug toolkit there is no option for it. Is this maybe an official build for Verizon? Has anyone else see this version or are running it on there device?
I had my 64 gb for a few days only on wifi and never had an update either
Never had an update either after two weeks with both the 5x and the 6p on Verizon. Ended up flashing the factory images myself since it is a nexus after all ☺
I've had mine for a few days now with no update...on Fi! I'm sure it's just Google staggering the deployment. For some reason, I always seem to be at the tail end of the staggering.
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You could always flash if you are impatient.
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1barlog17 said:
So ive had mine on Verizon for a week now from the moment i turned it on. I didn't know there was any updated available and i have been waiting for Wug NRT to update his toolkit for the N6P. i just noticed he did about an hour ago unlocked my bootloader and when it powered back up it had an update so i accepted it and when it rebooted im now running MDB08L ?! I haven't seen this version and on the Wug toolkit there is no option for it. Is this maybe an official build for Verizon? Has anyone else see this version or are running it on there device?
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No Verizon doesn't build it's all Google. I believe the current complete build is K.
OTA Updates L & M I believe are the new Monthly Security Updates. (Update site doesen't include info on update content)
As L & M were released on same day expect to got from D to K to M.
That's what I think I know anyway. lol
It's an algorithm based on IMEI. You'll get it eventually. The carrier doesn't have anything to do with it.
I will agree it seems to be taking longer this time than usual and I usually got them late on my N5. I'm still on old build as well.
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Mine updated this afternoon!
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It's an algorithm based on IMEI. You'll get it eventually. The carrier doesn't have anything to do with it.
I will agree it seems to be taking longer this time than usual and I usually got them late on my N5. I'm still on old build as well.
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Actually the carrier does have something to do with it. They have to approve updates for phones on their networks, even if there is nothing for them to do with it. Better off just flashing them through twrp.