Hello to everybody,
I'm looking for a smartwatch that could be paired with a couple of bluetooth earphones, acting as music player and that could works without a phone.
I found a lot of cheap device that has a TF (microsd) slot and that could be paired with bluetooth earphones, and this is good.
But I would like to have also Radio FM and I was unable to find a device that could work with bluetooth earphones because all the devices I found with radio FM needs to have earphones jack inserted because they act as antenna.
So I started looking for a device that could run app without a phone, something like "tune in radio", that streams music via data connection, but I'm not sure if someone has already developed something similar, I've seen that Samsung has created the Gear S that has a 3G and wifi connection but I'm not sure of what are its capabilities, if it could work alone (without a phone) for the task I need.
Does anybody knows if there's something that could fit my needs? (or mp3 stand alone with radio FM via bluetooth or mp3 with undependent streaming radio app)
If I could throw a bone...
I carry an iPod Nano 6G. Relatively cheap, doesn't have Bluetooth, but it has been my goto for music. I paid $10 for a stainless steel band, it has a week battery life typically, and its just a good device overall. If you're willing to compromise Bluetooth, it can't break the bank.
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Thank you, but I can't give up bluetooth, Nano was one of my first choice but it doesn't fit some of my requirements.
Probably some other little device like this small phone could be good. Does anybody knows it?
Basically any MTK6260 based smartwatch will do.
I listen to music at work straight from my GT08. Either via bt heaphones or via the sound system since it has a bluetooth receiver.
Yes but it also works with fm radio ?
All the reseller I contacted told me that in order to listen fm radio I have to plug earphones into the 3.5mm hole because earphones works as antenna.
Did you try to do it without
well, best I can think of is an actual headphone with built-in FM radio, kind of like the Sony MW1 - or if you prefer, there's sport-headphones with all kinds of options (SD card, FM radio, etc.) which don't require any kind of additional device/bluetooth/etc. and are pretty much just headphones with a wire between the two. Example: Sport Wireless+ by Jabra has FM radio.
problem is, that for FM radio you will always require SOME kind of antenna - if I remember correctly it has something to do with the wavelength of FM and needing a certain minimum antenna length to pick up the signal. In cases with no cable (e.g. big headphones (over-ear)), the antenna is built into the frame, while in-ear headphones require some kind of cable/wire (even if it's the one connecting the two headphones) to function as antenna.
I agree with you but I just received a pair of Plantronics beatfit bluetooth earphones, that are superbs in terms of quality, but that lack the embedded radio FM as Jabra ones!
About the antenna, it's strange, because I think that if it's possible to integrate it inside a couple of bluetooth earphones it should be possible to do the same also in an mp3 player or in a smartwatch, don't you think?
Caio said:
I agree with you but I just received a pair of Plantronics beatfit bluetooth earphones, that are superbs in terms of quality, but that lack the embedded radio FM as Jabra ones!
About the antenna, it's strange, because I think that if it's possible to integrate it inside a couple of bluetooth earphones it should be possible to do the same also in an mp3 player or in a smartwatch, don't you think?
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Problem is basically that the shorter the antenna (compared to the actual wavelength) the worse the signal (more or less, google "FM antenna length" - or anything similar - for the specifics involved). And considering that FM has MUCH larger wavelength than any other frequency used in a phone (iirc BT is more or less 12cm, FM is 3m), having an antenna small enough to fit in a watch or phone COULD work, but the signal would be really bad - so you'd have to make the receiver REALLY sensitive and probably use quite a bit of power.
Kinda like the difference between turning on a world clock radio with & without extending the antenna - it'll "work" with the antenna collapsed (and maybe even pick up a station or two if you're lucky), but it'll work much better with the antenna extended.
FYI: The larger the wavelength (and thus lower the frequency), the further the signal travels & less interference from objects in between - reason why in the middle of nowhere between trees and mountains you'll pick up an AM (approx. 1kHz, 100+m wavelength) signal much better than an FM signal (approx. 98kHz, 3m wavelength). Same reason as to why the lower mobile bands (700-800) are more suited for large area coverage than teh higher frequency ones (2100, etc.).
NOTE: You'll have to forgive me for any (probable) errors in specific numbers - it's been a LOT of years since I last used/checked them
addendum...
Ok, apparently a full-length set of headphones (to some extent) isn't even needed nowadays - basically phone makers being lazy. Check this thread over @ androidcentral.com about someone getting the radio (not through BT though) working by sticking a cut-off 3.5mm jack stub (of an old pair of headphones).
No test on how WELL it receives various stations, but at least something is picked up... now all you need to do is modify the ROM so it'll allow BT broadcast even with a 3.5mm jack plugged in :silly:
Or maybe (as suggested in the thread), plugging in a standalone BT transmitter into teh 3.5mm jack?
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is it possible to broacasting from XDAII
just yesturday i learn that certain MP3 player can broacasting MP3 over FM network, so all you have to do is make sure your radio station and MP3 player is on the same channel. then you can listen to MP3 in your car.
is there any software that can let XDAII do the same thing?
FM is analog signals places typical around 100Mhz
GSM phones are digital signals placed around 900Ghz 1800Ghz and 1900Ghz
so with the GSM part of the xda2 you sure cant transmit FM
Yes it is possible to broadcast from your XDA2, you can do this by plugging in a FM transmitter. Here the one I use
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProd...=&Section_Id=201526&pcount=&Product_Id=140984
I then tune in my car radio to the same frequency as the FM transmitter and i get MP3s on my car radio. It works well and I am quite happy with it.
Jim
hummmm i wonder how that happened?
You also have adapt or buy a connector into the base of the XDA but its easy to do....
you mean a 2.5mm to 3.5mm minijack converter right ?
lol seems you can use them to freak people out
http://channels.lockergnome.com/it/backissues/20040517.phtml#20040517_1
i'm thinking war of the worlds here
hehe now that looks like fun.....hehe, time to go out and mess with peoples radios.....lol :lol:
Yeah 2.5mm to 3.5mm jack
as (hopefully) on the link......
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=113091&asource=XDA_SIMFREE
I can really recommend it it works well, however if my car radio was able to have a aux input i would have preferred that
thanks guys
this is what i looking for
There is a very cheap device called a car baby that will do this also, it is a rechargable device that clips to the top of the xda 2 and covers the speaker output, it works well but you must make sure that the pda volume is very low to begin with, just adjust upwards in small increments until you get loud undistorted audio through your radio. Go to ebay and search car baby. Here is a link to the uk ebay selling device. This will also work as a handsfree for the phone if you arent more than 6-10 feet from the mic input on phone.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42409&item=6353206562&rd=1
i got one of those belkin one on ebay
now i need to know where can i got a adaptor 2.5mm to 3.5mm in Canada or usa?
Does anyone know of a Kaiser compatable radio transmitter for the Kaiser so I can use it like an itrip and play my tunes from my kaiser in my car over a radio frequency?
anybody have any experience of this thing:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/11-Pin-Mini-U...=item150134591006&_trksid=p3286.c33.m20.l1116
Any old usb/headphone splitter will allow you to do this, as the FM transmitter element simply plugs into the 3.5mm headphone jack - FM transmitters are, notoriously, pants though but if its your only option, I would suggest getting your own splitter and then getting a different FM transmitter that has digital tuning, so you can select any frequency, and not be limited to 4.
Something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/200-Frequency...ryZ48680QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Any old usb/headphone splitter will allow you to do this, as the FM transmitter element simply plugs into the 3.5mm headphone jack - FM transmitters are, notoriously, pants though but if its your only option, I would suggest getting your own splitter and then getting a different FM transmitter that has digital tuning, so you can select any frequency, and not be limited to 4.
Something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/200-Frequency...ryZ48680QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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thanks a lot for your help i will do just that!!
You know what I am looking for... I would love to see a Bluetooth FM Transmitter. Then you can just enter your car, and wirelessly play your music through your phone. Anyone know if these even exist? I did a brief google search but it looked like everything was either a car kit for hands free talking or just people wishing they had one kind of like me.
Universal Belkin adapter.
Personally I use the belkin 3.5 inch universal FM transmitter.
the audio quality isnt grand but its very passable.
http://www.thegadgetlocker.com/product_info.php?cPath=218_169_103_110&products_id=2794
I've been using that for my PSP and zune for a while now and i'll be using it
with my kaiser as soon as I get my miniUSB to 3.5 adapter in the mail.
I recomend it.
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Hi...
FAO Captainsensible/JPHCCFC or others with experience on this...
I'm wanting to do the same thing but have absolutely no technical knowledge about this kind of thing.
I have a Mk4 VW Golf with the standard VW fit, quad speakers radio.
What products would I need to buy to get my Kaiser playing through the car speakers, and, how would I need to set it up.
Links to the products and detailed advice in plain English welcomed & much appreciated.
TIA.
Regards,
Mark.
Another option would be this, http://www.techlore.com/article/10247/How-To-Play-an-iPod-or-Other-Portable-MP3-Player-Through-a-Car-Stereo/.
I think the quality is better than the FM transmitter.
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You know what I am looking for... I would love to see a Bluetooth FM Transmitter. Then you can just enter your car, and wirelessly play your music through your phone. Anyone know if these even exist? I did a brief google search but it looked like everything was either a car kit for hands free talking or just people wishing they had one kind of like me.
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I use an iTech-clip connected to a cassete player adapter normally for a walkman. Gives me BT stereo music and when clipped to the sunvisor acts as a hands-free automatically cutting off the music when a call comes in.
godfa7h3r said:
You know what I am looking for... I would love to see a Bluetooth FM Transmitter. Then you can just enter your car, and wirelessly play your music through your phone. Anyone know if these even exist? I did a brief google search but it looked like everything was either a car kit for hands free talking or just people wishing they had one kind of like me.
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Ask and you shall receive, a couple of months L8R
http://www.phonemag.com/verizons-a2dp-venturi-mini-is-hands-free-and-fm-transmitter-01244.php
my solutions:
My current solution is a A2DP to 3.5mm dadpter (which as a mic as well).
http://www.bluetomorrow.com/content/section/410/565
(i primarily use the module without the speakers- which can be used with a PC separatly)
my future solution is this A2DP supporting head unit:
http://www.audiojunkies.com/blog/624/new-parrot-rk8200-bluetooth-headunit-can-hide-your-secret-stash
godfa7h3r said:
You know what I am looking for... I would love to see a Bluetooth FM Transmitter. Then you can just enter your car, and wirelessly play your music through your phone. Anyone know if these even exist? I did a brief google search but it looked like everything was either a car kit for hands free talking or just people wishing they had one kind of like me.
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It took me a while to track one down! But I finally did and I just purchased on off ebay... It is from a brand called Scosche. It sells new for US$90.
It functions as a Bluetooth Reciever (for bluetooth devices with Audio Push, such as the Keiser...) and as a hands free. It plugs into the car power, and I understand it has a built in battery for portability. I should be receiving it later next week, I'll update on how it works
Jimmyy said:
It took me a while to track one down! But I finally did and I just purchased on off ebay... It is from a brand called Scosche. It sells new for US$90.
It functions as a Bluetooth Reciever (for bluetooth devices with Audio Push, such as the Keiser...) and as a hands free. It plugs into the car power, and I understand it has a built in battery for portability. I should be receiving it later next week, I'll update on how it works
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you got a link so we can peek?
Motorola came out with their version ( BT & FM transmitter ..etc )
The MOTOROKR T505
http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/T505/
also available on ebay for under $100
Venturi
Bronx31 said:
Ask and you shall receive, a couple of months L8R
http://www.phonemag.com/verizons-a2dp-venturi-mini-is-hands-free-and-fm-transmitter-01244.php
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I was one of the first in the states to get the venturi and have been using it for several weeks now. The quality is great and it is the only device I know of that transmits caller ID to the FM radio via RBDS. It is not the cheapest, but only thing i know that transmits FM, charges phone, and does bluetooth calling/stereo. (not to mention it works flawlessly with the Tilt/kaiser)
Hi,
Just saw this on google:
http://www.aftermarketcellular.com/ic/UNIJABRAA120S.html
Most new radios have a plug in the back for external CD or other audio, just connect this and you dont need an FM transmitter.
Good luck...
I have a Monster Icarplay for the ipod. I am wondering if there's any way of modding it to use on my kaiser. I know the ipod connecter is just a modified usb connector - so I am wondering there is some sort of adapter that goes from ipod connecter to regular usb. I don't think I can just snip off the end and solder in a reg. usb because there are controles on the ipod connecter plug. Any thoughts?
UnicornKaz said:
Motorola came out with their version ( BT & FM transmitter ..etc )
The MOTOROKR T505
http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/T505/
also available on ebay for under $100
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I'm browsing around trying to decide what unit to purchase. The thing I like about the Motorola is I do not have to plug it into my cigarette lighter (other than for a charge, of course).
But, I had purchased a Motorola speaker phone a couple years ago and the sound quality for the person on the other end was pretty bad. With this sound quality for me as the listener would probably be OK, as it would go through the radio.
Has anyone used one of these yet that can report back?
The positive feedback from Venturi on the Verizon one sounds good.
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I'm browsing around trying to decide what unit to purchase. The thing I like about the Motorola is I do not have to plug it into my cigarette lighter (other than for a charge, of course).
But, I had purchased a Motorola speaker phone a couple years ago and the sound quality for the person on the other end was pretty bad. With this sound quality for me as the listener would probably be OK, as it would go through the radio.
Has anyone used one of these yet that can report back?
The positive feedback from Venturi on the Verizon one sounds good.
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what I want to know is ...
how does it transmit to the FM wirelessly though ???
and if there's another radio nearby happened to be scanning stations ... will it also pick up my private conversation ??
I can understand when this is routed through the cigarette lighter plug ... but wireless ??? and they don't specify the type of FM radio ... so I just assumed any regular car FM stereo ...
anyone for answers ???
Good questions.
It seems to me that it transmits to the FM device via BlueTooth; then the FM device transmits to the radio over FM frequency.
And I assume that if someone in a car nearby (I don't think it will transmit very far) happens to tune the the same FM frequency you are using, that they in fact would pickup your conversations.
I would like to be able to have the bluetooth transmit my stereo to my radio, and if I have on a BT headset, have my conversations go there. But, I'm not sure that is possible.
Found this on feabay today, think it is a very nice idea, and very cheap
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CAR-FM-TRANSM...14&_trkparms=72:1300|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
Regards
Rich
Ever Tried it??
I Read the page and it kind of looks weird.. it says the charger does not charge the phone just the transmitter.. Also it lacks a picture of the appropriate connector..
Just wondering if anybody else has tried it?
I have ordered one, and will let you know when it arrives
I would say it does power the handset too, and the connector is Mini USB.
I have one and with the Pro it has a bug to activate the voicelabel when i play my MP3's
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It seems that you could get it caught in a feeback loop if you have the FM radio set to listen to the station that you are trying to transmit on.
Wonder what it would do?...hmmm.
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It seems that you could get it caught in a feeback loop if you have the FM radio set to listen to the station that you are trying to transmit on.
Wonder what it would do?...hmmm.
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Well since you need headphones plugged in or the FM radio won't work, I don't think you could find out!
The Motorola T505 is really nice, though a little pricey. Its basically a bluetooth speakerphone with an FM transmitter.
So your music and calls use BT A2DP, then the T505 broadcasts that over an FM station. It'll even pick the best station and tell you to tune to it. If you're listening to music and a call comes in, it'll pause the music announce the number, and if you answer it, it'll play the call over your car speakers (like OnStar).
I've used it on a 5+ hour trip and never had to charge it, I forgot how long the battery is rated for.
In my car i´ve a CD Changer Radio without a cd changer connected. Those radios have a connection possibility (the normal connector to the changer) at the rear, where you can connect a cable which ends in a 2,5 mm (we call it "klinkenstecker", i dont know the english word). So you can buy an adapter from USB to 2,5 mm "klinke", and your TP gives great sound, in my opinion its better than the car radio ... The manufactor of the connector is called HAMA
Greetz
Boris
P.S.: sorry for my bad english
Phone music through car stereo plus a lot more using iTech Stereo clip
I wrote a similar post a few montsh back (almost a year) in the Tilt section.
a very nifty way is getting a A2DP stereo BT headset connected to the car.
Easy as 1-2-3 if you have a car stereo with either AUX or so called iPod input (eeek). Most of these inputs are either in the center console or armrest storage compartment.
How to Step-1 (Music and Navi):
Get a cheap but good working BT headset with std. headphone out (3.5mm). I use an iTech clip 35 for example.
Get a 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable, if you want to have handsfree at the same time get a LONG cable.
Connect iTech with AUX through cable
Start BT and activate A2DP profile (also known as stereo headset in some devices).
Start BT and AudioManager at phone and enjoy music through your car stereo.
Since A2DP will route ALL output to the BT device and therefore AUX input of your car you may listen to your voice navigation as well. Cool thing Tilt and Raphael will play music while Navi is active and mute music for Navi directions and come back...to music.
How to Step-2 (Music, Navi, Handsfree):
If you use a long 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable you can route the cable and iTech clip somewhere near your head (visor) or even behind the little grid MOST cars have meanwhile regardless if they are equipped with a handsfree BT option or not (take a look at the overhead light and consult with a good shop manual in most cases there is enough space).
Mount the clip and - voila - here is your handsfree.
Hint, if you permanently install the iTech clip extend the charging cable and use a cigarette lighter with USB port to charge.
why not use the cab bt to head phones. and mount the ptt funtion to turn on the app to forward the audio to your bt car system then no wires
Agreed but BTAudio and BTToggle messes with the phone, so how do you pick up a call?
FMTalk unit suffers from alternator whine interference
Jimllfixit said:
Found this on feabay today, think it is a very nice idea, and very cheap
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CAR-FM-TRANSM...14&_trkparms=72:1300|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318
Regards
Rich
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I had my PURE Highway In-Car DAB Digital Radio FM Transmitter stolen which I mainly used to transmit my TP MP3's to the car radio and needed a replacement.
So I bought a FMTalk unit for use in my 3 year old Renault Laguna but it picks up alternator whine interference and crackles too.
I tried these too but had the same whine
Belkin TuneCast II
Sendai XM800 FM Transmitter
In the end I got a Griffin iTrip Auto Universal Plus which works a treat at a reasonable price although it doesn't have the phone talk function like the more pricey Motorola T505 or Parrot MK6100.
The main point was that the FMTalk unit suffers from alternator whine interference
So noticed it won't let you use the included FM radio without headphones plugged in as they act as an aerial. Was wondering from people who use headphones more often, do you find it improves data rrcrption az well?
No, completely unconnected aerial. The data/phone aerial(s) are inside, there is no FM aerial, the wire of the phones becomes the aerial.
Adding to that - not all headphones will just work as FM aerial. You will need to use the default HTC headset as far as I know to get a signal.
EDIT: found out if you put in a regular 3.5mm headphone, the FM transmitter should also work guess you can do it any way you want!
so let me get this right, if you get a 3.5mm jack off some headphones, i can plug that in and the radio will work?
jonyid said:
so let me get this right, if you get a 3.5mm jack off some headphones, i can plug that in and the radio will work?
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Yeah, I just tried it on a Sony headset and an ipod headphone set and they both triggered the FM to work. I think the FM can be triggered with software to work but the reception will be crappy without extra wire coming out to catch the signal.
Great experiment ! Easy solution ! Can now uninstall all internet-radio apps and get my local radio station w/o headset.
Tx !
Personally I think it's just a gimmic to buy HTC's headset, don't fall for it guys! Use your own equipment that will sound better and fit more comfortably!
I could only pick up a couple of local stations like this,and we have a huge transmitter only a few miles away.
Went back to a full length set of headphones and did a rescan
and they were all back....
NW UK based.
The whole wire acts like an antenna. There is no dedicated antenna for FM. That's how FM works since it's short range and hig frequency unlike the older AM low freq signals which need a more specialised antenna.
For good FM reception, a good wire will suffice.
Nice i'll give it a try, but first thing i would like to know is how did you get your sound so high, been lookin every ware for a cab file or a hack, any info would be GR8