My HTC HD2 mod-shortened FM antenna - HD2 General

EDIT: found out if you put in a regular 3.5mm headphone, the FM transmitter should also work guess you can do it any way you want!

so let me get this right, if you get a 3.5mm jack off some headphones, i can plug that in and the radio will work?

jonyid said:
so let me get this right, if you get a 3.5mm jack off some headphones, i can plug that in and the radio will work?
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Yeah, I just tried it on a Sony headset and an ipod headphone set and they both triggered the FM to work. I think the FM can be triggered with software to work but the reception will be crappy without extra wire coming out to catch the signal.

Great experiment ! Easy solution ! Can now uninstall all internet-radio apps and get my local radio station w/o headset.
Tx !

Personally I think it's just a gimmic to buy HTC's headset, don't fall for it guys! Use your own equipment that will sound better and fit more comfortably!

I could only pick up a couple of local stations like this,and we have a huge transmitter only a few miles away.
Went back to a full length set of headphones and did a rescan
and they were all back....
NW UK based.

The whole wire acts like an antenna. There is no dedicated antenna for FM. That's how FM works since it's short range and hig frequency unlike the older AM low freq signals which need a more specialised antenna.
For good FM reception, a good wire will suffice.

Nice i'll give it a try, but first thing i would like to know is how did you get your sound so high, been lookin every ware for a cab file or a hack, any info would be GR8

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broacasting from XDAII

is it possible to broacasting from XDAII
just yesturday i learn that certain MP3 player can broacasting MP3 over FM network, so all you have to do is make sure your radio station and MP3 player is on the same channel. then you can listen to MP3 in your car.
is there any software that can let XDAII do the same thing?
FM is analog signals places typical around 100Mhz
GSM phones are digital signals placed around 900Ghz 1800Ghz and 1900Ghz
so with the GSM part of the xda2 you sure cant transmit FM
Yes it is possible to broadcast from your XDA2, you can do this by plugging in a FM transmitter. Here the one I use
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProd...=&Section_Id=201526&pcount=&Product_Id=140984
I then tune in my car radio to the same frequency as the FM transmitter and i get MP3s on my car radio. It works well and I am quite happy with it.
Jim
hummmm i wonder how that happened?
You also have adapt or buy a connector into the base of the XDA but its easy to do....
you mean a 2.5mm to 3.5mm minijack converter right ?
lol seems you can use them to freak people out
http://channels.lockergnome.com/it/backissues/20040517.phtml#20040517_1
i'm thinking war of the worlds here
hehe now that looks like fun.....hehe, time to go out and mess with peoples radios.....lol :lol:
Yeah 2.5mm to 3.5mm jack
as (hopefully) on the link......
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=113091&asource=XDA_SIMFREE
I can really recommend it it works well, however if my car radio was able to have a aux input i would have preferred that
thanks guys
this is what i looking for
There is a very cheap device called a car baby that will do this also, it is a rechargable device that clips to the top of the xda 2 and covers the speaker output, it works well but you must make sure that the pda volume is very low to begin with, just adjust upwards in small increments until you get loud undistorted audio through your radio. Go to ebay and search car baby. Here is a link to the uk ebay selling device. This will also work as a handsfree for the phone if you arent more than 6-10 feet from the mic input on phone.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42409&item=6353206562&rd=1
i got one of those belkin one on ebay
now i need to know where can i got a adaptor 2.5mm to 3.5mm in Canada or usa?

USB Radio Transmitter

Does anyone know of a Kaiser compatable radio transmitter for the Kaiser so I can use it like an itrip and play my tunes from my kaiser in my car over a radio frequency?
anybody have any experience of this thing:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/11-Pin-Mini-U...=item150134591006&_trksid=p3286.c33.m20.l1116
Any old usb/headphone splitter will allow you to do this, as the FM transmitter element simply plugs into the 3.5mm headphone jack - FM transmitters are, notoriously, pants though but if its your only option, I would suggest getting your own splitter and then getting a different FM transmitter that has digital tuning, so you can select any frequency, and not be limited to 4.
Something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/200-Frequency...ryZ48680QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
captainsensible2002 said:
Any old usb/headphone splitter will allow you to do this, as the FM transmitter element simply plugs into the 3.5mm headphone jack - FM transmitters are, notoriously, pants though but if its your only option, I would suggest getting your own splitter and then getting a different FM transmitter that has digital tuning, so you can select any frequency, and not be limited to 4.
Something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/200-Frequency...ryZ48680QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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thanks a lot for your help i will do just that!!
You know what I am looking for... I would love to see a Bluetooth FM Transmitter. Then you can just enter your car, and wirelessly play your music through your phone. Anyone know if these even exist? I did a brief google search but it looked like everything was either a car kit for hands free talking or just people wishing they had one kind of like me.
Universal Belkin adapter.
Personally I use the belkin 3.5 inch universal FM transmitter.
the audio quality isnt grand but its very passable.
http://www.thegadgetlocker.com/product_info.php?cPath=218_169_103_110&products_id=2794
I've been using that for my PSP and zune for a while now and i'll be using it
with my kaiser as soon as I get my miniUSB to 3.5 adapter in the mail.
I recomend it.
Say that again...
Hi...
FAO Captainsensible/JPHCCFC or others with experience on this...
I'm wanting to do the same thing but have absolutely no technical knowledge about this kind of thing.
I have a Mk4 VW Golf with the standard VW fit, quad speakers radio.
What products would I need to buy to get my Kaiser playing through the car speakers, and, how would I need to set it up.
Links to the products and detailed advice in plain English welcomed & much appreciated.
TIA.
Regards,
Mark.
Another option would be this, http://www.techlore.com/article/10247/How-To-Play-an-iPod-or-Other-Portable-MP3-Player-Through-a-Car-Stereo/.
I think the quality is better than the FM transmitter.
godfa7h3r said:
You know what I am looking for... I would love to see a Bluetooth FM Transmitter. Then you can just enter your car, and wirelessly play your music through your phone. Anyone know if these even exist? I did a brief google search but it looked like everything was either a car kit for hands free talking or just people wishing they had one kind of like me.
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I use an iTech-clip connected to a cassete player adapter normally for a walkman. Gives me BT stereo music and when clipped to the sunvisor acts as a hands-free automatically cutting off the music when a call comes in.
godfa7h3r said:
You know what I am looking for... I would love to see a Bluetooth FM Transmitter. Then you can just enter your car, and wirelessly play your music through your phone. Anyone know if these even exist? I did a brief google search but it looked like everything was either a car kit for hands free talking or just people wishing they had one kind of like me.
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Ask and you shall receive, a couple of months L8R
http://www.phonemag.com/verizons-a2dp-venturi-mini-is-hands-free-and-fm-transmitter-01244.php
my solutions:
My current solution is a A2DP to 3.5mm dadpter (which as a mic as well).
http://www.bluetomorrow.com/content/section/410/565
(i primarily use the module without the speakers- which can be used with a PC separatly)
my future solution is this A2DP supporting head unit:
http://www.audiojunkies.com/blog/624/new-parrot-rk8200-bluetooth-headunit-can-hide-your-secret-stash
godfa7h3r said:
You know what I am looking for... I would love to see a Bluetooth FM Transmitter. Then you can just enter your car, and wirelessly play your music through your phone. Anyone know if these even exist? I did a brief google search but it looked like everything was either a car kit for hands free talking or just people wishing they had one kind of like me.
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It took me a while to track one down! But I finally did and I just purchased on off ebay... It is from a brand called Scosche. It sells new for US$90.
It functions as a Bluetooth Reciever (for bluetooth devices with Audio Push, such as the Keiser...) and as a hands free. It plugs into the car power, and I understand it has a built in battery for portability. I should be receiving it later next week, I'll update on how it works
Jimmyy said:
It took me a while to track one down! But I finally did and I just purchased on off ebay... It is from a brand called Scosche. It sells new for US$90.
It functions as a Bluetooth Reciever (for bluetooth devices with Audio Push, such as the Keiser...) and as a hands free. It plugs into the car power, and I understand it has a built in battery for portability. I should be receiving it later next week, I'll update on how it works
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you got a link so we can peek?
Motorola came out with their version ( BT & FM transmitter ..etc )
The MOTOROKR T505
http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/T505/
also available on ebay for under $100
Venturi
Bronx31 said:
Ask and you shall receive, a couple of months L8R
http://www.phonemag.com/verizons-a2dp-venturi-mini-is-hands-free-and-fm-transmitter-01244.php
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I was one of the first in the states to get the venturi and have been using it for several weeks now. The quality is great and it is the only device I know of that transmits caller ID to the FM radio via RBDS. It is not the cheapest, but only thing i know that transmits FM, charges phone, and does bluetooth calling/stereo. (not to mention it works flawlessly with the Tilt/kaiser)
Hi,
Just saw this on google:
http://www.aftermarketcellular.com/ic/UNIJABRAA120S.html
Most new radios have a plug in the back for external CD or other audio, just connect this and you dont need an FM transmitter.
Good luck...
I have a Monster Icarplay for the ipod. I am wondering if there's any way of modding it to use on my kaiser. I know the ipod connecter is just a modified usb connector - so I am wondering there is some sort of adapter that goes from ipod connecter to regular usb. I don't think I can just snip off the end and solder in a reg. usb because there are controles on the ipod connecter plug. Any thoughts?
UnicornKaz said:
Motorola came out with their version ( BT & FM transmitter ..etc )
The MOTOROKR T505
http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/T505/
also available on ebay for under $100
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I'm browsing around trying to decide what unit to purchase. The thing I like about the Motorola is I do not have to plug it into my cigarette lighter (other than for a charge, of course).
But, I had purchased a Motorola speaker phone a couple years ago and the sound quality for the person on the other end was pretty bad. With this sound quality for me as the listener would probably be OK, as it would go through the radio.
Has anyone used one of these yet that can report back?
The positive feedback from Venturi on the Verizon one sounds good.
ewingr said:
I'm browsing around trying to decide what unit to purchase. The thing I like about the Motorola is I do not have to plug it into my cigarette lighter (other than for a charge, of course).
But, I had purchased a Motorola speaker phone a couple years ago and the sound quality for the person on the other end was pretty bad. With this sound quality for me as the listener would probably be OK, as it would go through the radio.
Has anyone used one of these yet that can report back?
The positive feedback from Venturi on the Verizon one sounds good.
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what I want to know is ...
how does it transmit to the FM wirelessly though ???
and if there's another radio nearby happened to be scanning stations ... will it also pick up my private conversation ??
I can understand when this is routed through the cigarette lighter plug ... but wireless ??? and they don't specify the type of FM radio ... so I just assumed any regular car FM stereo ...
anyone for answers ???
Good questions.
It seems to me that it transmits to the FM device via BlueTooth; then the FM device transmits to the radio over FM frequency.
And I assume that if someone in a car nearby (I don't think it will transmit very far) happens to tune the the same FM frequency you are using, that they in fact would pickup your conversations.
I would like to be able to have the bluetooth transmit my stereo to my radio, and if I have on a BT headset, have my conversations go there. But, I'm not sure that is possible.

Radio without headphones?

Is it possible to get the radio to run without having to plug in the headphones?
I know they act as an antenna but I'd still like to be able to demo the device and try for local radio in strong signal areas without having to carry round a set of headphones.
is this possible?
No, must have earphones plugged in.
...actually, FM radio switches off automatically 30 seconds after you disconnect the cable....very handy....
Hi,
I'm considering to buy a seperate antenna.. But I'm not sure this will work.
Any suggestions?
http://cgi.ebay.nl/TMC-Kurzstab-Ant...9523848QQcmdZViewItemQQptZNavigations_Zubehör
if you use HD tweak you van set the audio booster on, if thats on, you wont get the message that your headset must be plugged in, but i hardly get a reception then
Trying to plug a dummy (just a socket?)?
your antenna is in the earplug-wire, so you need it.
BSmart said:
Hi,
I'm considering to buy a seperate antenna.. But I'm not sure this will work.
Any suggestions?
http://cgi.ebay.nl/TMC-Kurzstab-Ant...9523848QQcmdZViewItemQQptZNavigations_Zubehör
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It should work, it seems to be using the same pinout as HD headphone, assuming the Mic still doubles as antenna, like before on ExtUSB
Just tried it with a 3.5 mini-extension cable (about 10cm long with a 3.5 plug on one end and a 3.5 socket on the other).
Works fine ! Reception is perhaps a little weaker.
A 3.5mm plug with some thin black insulated wire connected to it should make a nice unobtrusive antenna.
but why bother, some earbuds are just as easy to bring
Thanks for this idea! I cut an old (bad and low-cost) earphone, plugged-in the 3.5-connector (with a cable of about 45 cm), activated audio booster with HD Tweak and - voila!: I'm able to hear FM Radio!
I think it's useful when you want to hear news for a short time; to hear music earphones are better of course!
And can the radio be switched to bluetooth A2DP in this case?
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And can the radio be switched to bluetooth A2DP in this case?
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No - bluetooth does not seem to work here. I tried this with a 3.5 extension. I could get sound out of the speaker no problem but no chance on diverting it to bluetooth.
We probably need some app to make that work.
Not sure if it will work in this case, but these apps are similar: BTArouter or BT Audio
stylus=antenna
You can use stylus as antenna!
Just have to hold it in place and make sure headphone symbol appear on top fo the screen.
jjow said:
You can use stylus as antenna!
Just have to hold it in place and make sure headphone symbol appear on top fo the screen.
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Actually, I was just about to check if anyone had ever metioned this before. I noticed it tooday when I was playing around with the phone
cybermaus said:
Not sure if it will work in this case, but these apps are similar: BTArouter or BT Audio
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Could somebody try this apps? To play radio through bluetooth is quite imoprtant feature for me, I use to listen to radio on bicycle on my sporty bt headset. Thank you.

External small FM radio antena

Is there such a thing? I dont use my wired headset since I am on bluetooth (Jabra BT8040) most of the time. Is there a small device that I can plug to USB to enable radio signal?
Thanks!
You can use any extUSB - 3.5mm adapter to make the FM work.
that's incorrect...
you need something plugged into the 3.5mm jack that acts as the antenna; however, i believe doing so will cause the touch pro to try to output sound to it.
so even if you did mod an antenna type thing to have a 3.5mm plug on it, i still doubt there's a way to get audio to the bluetooth headset.
i'd try it with the wired headphones plugged in, and if you can get audio over bluetooth, you can just make an antenna w/a 3.5mm plug.
i'd be very interested to know if/how that works if anyone has any experience.
well..
I actually did this as a test. If you stick the stylus into the 3.5mm jack, you can then use the FM radio through the loud speaker. I however don't recommend this as you could possibly damage the jack, just saying that it will work.
Correct me if I am wrong, but not all 'versions' of the Touch Pro have the FM radio hardware I thought. I have yet to find a list of which ones have it and which don't, if anyone has that info, it would be worth checking
chrialex said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but not all 'versions' of the Touch Pro have the FM radio hardware I thought. I have yet to find a list of which ones have it and which don't, if anyone has that info, it would be worth checking
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I think the hardware is there on all Touch Pro's but not all ROMs include the software. My Fuze had missing FM software with the stock AT&T ROM... flashed Energy and FM works like a charm.
I dont know about the bluetooth part, but I just took an old pair of headphones and ripped the rubber piece and wires down to just the plug, and it works great.
Here are a few pics.
qtipextra said:
I dont know about the bluetooth part, but I just took an old pair of headphones and ripped the rubber piece and wires down to just the plug, and it works great.
Here are a few pics.
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This works if you want to use the speaker-phone speaker but it does not work with bluetooth as far as I can figure out. Anyone get FM to work over bluetooth???
download the cab btaudio.cab . works perfect for bt stereo
huh????
so let me get this straight and please forgive me iam new when it comes to the fuze. so there is a fm tuner then why is there not a cab or something for those of us whom are not that savy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427040
cab file for fm tuner software. google are your friend.
rastlin said:
so let me get this straight and please forgive me iam new when it comes to the fuze. so there is a fm tuner then why is there not a cab or something for those of us whom are not that savy
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In the update of the Fuze rom via HTC the FM tuner was included.
Anonymitee said:
I actually did this as a test. If you stick the stylus into the 3.5mm jack, you can then use the FM radio through the loud speaker. I however don't recommend this as you could possibly damage the jack, just saying that it will work.
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Sounds like a 3.5mm stereo plug and maybe 6-12 inches of soft wire soldered to one of the contacts (there are three of them; tip, ring and base) would do it. Wish my TP had a radio.
willr001 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427040
cab file for fm tuner software. google are your friend.
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If this works on my Sprint Touch Pro I will drink a beer in your name!

Looking for a smartwatch that works as music player (via bluetooth)

Hello to everybody,
I'm looking for a smartwatch that could be paired with a couple of bluetooth earphones, acting as music player and that could works without a phone.
I found a lot of cheap device that has a TF (microsd) slot and that could be paired with bluetooth earphones, and this is good.
But I would like to have also Radio FM and I was unable to find a device that could work with bluetooth earphones because all the devices I found with radio FM needs to have earphones jack inserted because they act as antenna.
So I started looking for a device that could run app without a phone, something like "tune in radio", that streams music via data connection, but I'm not sure if someone has already developed something similar, I've seen that Samsung has created the Gear S that has a 3G and wifi connection but I'm not sure of what are its capabilities, if it could work alone (without a phone) for the task I need.
Does anybody knows if there's something that could fit my needs? (or mp3 stand alone with radio FM via bluetooth or mp3 with undependent streaming radio app)
If I could throw a bone...
I carry an iPod Nano 6G. Relatively cheap, doesn't have Bluetooth, but it has been my goto for music. I paid $10 for a stainless steel band, it has a week battery life typically, and its just a good device overall. If you're willing to compromise Bluetooth, it can't break the bank.
Sent from my 306SH using Tapatalk
Thank you, but I can't give up bluetooth, Nano was one of my first choice but it doesn't fit some of my requirements.
Probably some other little device like this small phone could be good. Does anybody knows it?
Basically any MTK6260 based smartwatch will do.
I listen to music at work straight from my GT08. Either via bt heaphones or via the sound system since it has a bluetooth receiver.
Yes but it also works with fm radio ?
All the reseller I contacted told me that in order to listen fm radio I have to plug earphones into the 3.5mm hole because earphones works as antenna.
Did you try to do it without
well, best I can think of is an actual headphone with built-in FM radio, kind of like the Sony MW1 - or if you prefer, there's sport-headphones with all kinds of options (SD card, FM radio, etc.) which don't require any kind of additional device/bluetooth/etc. and are pretty much just headphones with a wire between the two. Example: Sport Wireless+ by Jabra has FM radio.
problem is, that for FM radio you will always require SOME kind of antenna - if I remember correctly it has something to do with the wavelength of FM and needing a certain minimum antenna length to pick up the signal. In cases with no cable (e.g. big headphones (over-ear)), the antenna is built into the frame, while in-ear headphones require some kind of cable/wire (even if it's the one connecting the two headphones) to function as antenna.
I agree with you but I just received a pair of Plantronics beatfit bluetooth earphones, that are superbs in terms of quality, but that lack the embedded radio FM as Jabra ones!
About the antenna, it's strange, because I think that if it's possible to integrate it inside a couple of bluetooth earphones it should be possible to do the same also in an mp3 player or in a smartwatch, don't you think?
Caio said:
I agree with you but I just received a pair of Plantronics beatfit bluetooth earphones, that are superbs in terms of quality, but that lack the embedded radio FM as Jabra ones!
About the antenna, it's strange, because I think that if it's possible to integrate it inside a couple of bluetooth earphones it should be possible to do the same also in an mp3 player or in a smartwatch, don't you think?
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Problem is basically that the shorter the antenna (compared to the actual wavelength) the worse the signal (more or less, google "FM antenna length" - or anything similar - for the specifics involved). And considering that FM has MUCH larger wavelength than any other frequency used in a phone (iirc BT is more or less 12cm, FM is 3m), having an antenna small enough to fit in a watch or phone COULD work, but the signal would be really bad - so you'd have to make the receiver REALLY sensitive and probably use quite a bit of power.
Kinda like the difference between turning on a world clock radio with & without extending the antenna - it'll "work" with the antenna collapsed (and maybe even pick up a station or two if you're lucky), but it'll work much better with the antenna extended.
FYI: The larger the wavelength (and thus lower the frequency), the further the signal travels & less interference from objects in between - reason why in the middle of nowhere between trees and mountains you'll pick up an AM (approx. 1kHz, 100+m wavelength) signal much better than an FM signal (approx. 98kHz, 3m wavelength). Same reason as to why the lower mobile bands (700-800) are more suited for large area coverage than teh higher frequency ones (2100, etc.).
NOTE: You'll have to forgive me for any (probable) errors in specific numbers - it's been a LOT of years since I last used/checked them
addendum...
Ok, apparently a full-length set of headphones (to some extent) isn't even needed nowadays - basically phone makers being lazy. Check this thread over @ androidcentral.com about someone getting the radio (not through BT though) working by sticking a cut-off 3.5mm jack stub (of an old pair of headphones).
No test on how WELL it receives various stations, but at least something is picked up... now all you need to do is modify the ROM so it'll allow BT broadcast even with a 3.5mm jack plugged in :silly:
Or maybe (as suggested in the thread), plugging in a standalone BT transmitter into teh 3.5mm jack?

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