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FIRST THINGS FIRST. THIS IS DIRECTED TO BRAZIL USERS! It may help some folks from other countries but it is not what I had in mind.
So, I got my new moto X on Brazil retail for a month now. Came from 1st gen gen moto x and, before that I would pretty much root and mess around with every single phone I got my hands on. Never felt the need to do that on the old X. So, I got the new one with very high expectations.
So far I am not disappointed with it but there ARE areas for improvement. So, what I think of it right now:
The good:
- The camera is definetly upgraded from the old model, but that doesnt mean it is a good camera. I would definetly say it is a average in comparison to the poor one from before. Video is very good though.
- It feels so comfortable in the hand. I was a bit worried about the 5.2 screen and the sheer size of it (I do have big hands but I am not a fan on phablets at all) but it has a very comfortable grip and the metal frame gives a very good feel. The bigger dimple is ok.
- This is true flagship performance for for a great price for Brazil standards (I got mine for R$ 1424, (that's around $650 dollars) and I am pretty much on top of every benchmark test and performance test I make with my friends. The stock interface does shine here.
- The new version of moto software is GREAT! The waving hand to glance at the notifications is the greatest thing and we finally get a use for voice commands.
The bad:
- My battery time is far from great. I am a heavy phone user and I do need to charge it around 6 pm (10 hours off charger). I listen to music and game on commute (around 1 hour each way), have email notifications and whatsapp buzzing all day. A friend has pretty much the same use on his GS5 and usually has 20% more battery than me. It really seems like moto gave it such a small battery on purpose to direct peoply to the Nexus 6.
- Software has it's fair share of quirks. Moto screen has a small glitch when you interact with it. It is minor but is does bug me. Voice control has a real hard time getting some of the commands straight. The phone recognizes the commands but moto doesnt catch them. I have to say them 3 or 4 times to get it to work.
- I really wish moto packed a better headphone with it or no headphone at all. It is better than the one before but it really doesnt say much, since it was was total C-R-A-P. Construction is poor, sound is questionable and volume is incredibly low. Just avoid it if you can.
Other than that I really believe this is the best high end fone you can get down here now without having to fork over R$2000 or getting a outdated phone. Let me know if you have any other questions about it
Moto XT1097 for the win
Hello pacobahyba,
Thanks for your report, I'm on the same boat here, Brazilian Retail version, almost 30 days already. My last device was a Galaxy Nexus, over almost 3 years (That's how much a device usually last with me, that's what I expect from the MotoX).
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Good things, i can add a few points:
* Camera: It have a good camera, overall. As a photographer i dont expect a phone to have a very neat camera, so MotoX didn't let me down so far.
* Size/Shape: Good grip on hands (Sometimes it's hard to use it with one hand, but not enought to don't like it), but also very comfortable in pocket, I know it's there but don't make me fell unconfortable.
* Very neat performance, as you said. Not even a lag, freeze, anything like that. Since I came from stock Android (Nexus device) I can say that I'm home here, and that's also awesome.
* Never used Moto softwares before, so I can't say about changes, only about how much i liked it, it's pretty awesome, but fells a little bit awkward on the street, also I can't make it works with the headphone speaker, not a problem, since I don't talk to the device on street.
* Battery: I'm very satisfied with it, last device was very poor on battery specs. I don't play games, but I'm always using GPS and Bluetooth, Spotify and Flacs, playing videos, email and web. You can add Skype and Hangouts with camera there, also Chromecast/Netflix and the Battery last till I get home to recharge it.
* Besides the fact Motorola made heavly saturated colors, screen is amazing.
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Bad Things:
* Moto Voice takes too long to give an answer when it uses Google Now.
* Sometimes Moto Voice just don't work.
* Speakers are loud, LOUD, but not clear, not intense or 'live'. I would exchange the high volume to a more clear sound without a second thought. It's not Stereo (the top speaker only work with calls).
* No leds, not a big problem, but I used to use it a lot on last device, with Light Flow app.
* Power button fells like it will break anytime.
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I really like it. It's far the best phone I got the hands on so far. I know it's only a Phone so most of the 'Bad Things' won't matter. I'm very pleased with the choice I made (I was about to replace my Galaxy Nexus to Nexus 5) and I hope it last for at least 30 months. I really liked the Motorola apps, and I would be very happy with more apps choice in the future.
Best regards (and sorry about the typos).
Just got mine today! Good to see Brazilian folks here.
Do you guys bought a case and a screen protector? I'm having a hard time finding it in Brazil :/
I'm really loving this phone, the active display is what I think it's best on the phone so far. And the camera is really not that good, but I guess they can correct that with some software update. I bought a screen protector for mine, and should have bought a case as well, mine already took his first visit to the floor yesterday no major damage, but it got a little scratched on the corner...
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rafael_lf said:
Just got mine today! Good to see Brazilian folks here.
Do you guys bought a case and a screen protector? I'm having a hard time finding it in Brazil :/
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I got a generic one here but Im trying to get some quality cases. Lookup on artcases. They're quite expensive though [emoji52]
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I really wish moto packed a better headphone with it.
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Headphone? At least you got one.
My US Pure Edition didn't have headphones at all (not that I would use them anyway, but still)
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Headphone? At least you got one.
My US Pure Edition didn't have headphones at all (not that I would use them anyway, but still)
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I saw that but trust me, you're better off without it. It is total crap
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Hi Paco!
I felt the same about the new MotoX.
Bigger screen, better camera, better construction, but the battery does not fit for heavy users.
Moto Voice doesn't work well, but I rarely use it (I think that talk to the phone is strange; people in Brazil see you like a weirdo).
And I still can't find cases for this phone. I got a hard case in my old MotoX. One month has passed and no hard cases for new moto (is it selling fine?!?!)
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Hi Paco!
I felt the same about the new MotoX.
Bigger screen, better camera, better construction, but the battery does not fit for heavy users.
Moto Voice doesn't work well, but I rarely use it (I think that talk to the phone is strange; people in Brazil see you like a weirdo).
And I still can't find cases for this phone. I got a hard case in my old MotoX. One month has passed and no hard cases for new moto (is it selling fine?!?!)
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Cases are stll tricky to find. Lookup on artcases, but beware of the prices though!
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I'm in Brazil too, considering to buy.
root is a must for me... did you guys already root it, the XT1097 brazilian version is bootloader unlocked?
Options I'm considering:
Moto X 2014 (XT1097 BR) - Sounds it will be ok to root, with good dev community, I'm concerned with battery only
Moto Maxx - Huge battery, but looks like dev community will be really small, because the US version is Verizon locked
Nexus 6 - That's the one I really want, but no news so far about launch in Brazil, will it ever come?
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I'm in Brazil too, considering to buy.
root is a must for me... did you guys already root it, the XT1097 brazilian version is bootloader unlocked?
Options I'm considering:
Moto X 2014 (XT1097 BR) - Sounds it will be ok to root, with good dev community, I'm concerned with battery only
Moto Maxx - Huge battery, but looks like dev community will be really small, because the US version is Verizon locked
Nexus 6 - That's the one I really want, but no news so far about launch in Brazil, will it ever come?
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Mine is the XT1097, and I got to unlock the bootloader and root it with no issues whatsoever. As for your options, me personally, I would just trade my Moto X for the nexus 6, that one is the is the real deal, even though I don't like the idea of having a 6 inch display, too big for my taste.
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hey man sorry for the delay... I see what you're saying on your options. The way I see it you gotta be between N6 and moto x. I dont like the maxx design... they remind me of that dreadful razr line
I think it should come down to a few things:
Are you a phablet fan? Otherwise you're in for a hard cause cause that thing is a monster.
Are you ok with the price tag? I liked the price range from nexus devices before. I get that Google changed the philosophy and all that and I am fine with their reasoning, it's just not my thing. I truly see it coming out here on iPhone 6 price range, but it is ultimately your choice.
Can you wait? It just barely came out. We usually have a delayed window. Keep in mind that moto is having a hard time to keep up with the demand. It's not unreasonable to think we'll get it by jan.
All things considered, I like where you're heading anyway! Let menknow what you do!
Thanks for the replies guys.
I will be ok with the screen size and price on Nexus 6. Yeah, I expect it to be expensive, but I will probably not need an upgrade in a few years hopefully.
I'm in a hurry though, because my old Galaxy S2 is almost dead... since there's no target date for Nexus 6 in Brazil, I may have to get a Moto X 2014 instead.
I'm brazilian and was willing to buy this phone. BUT....thanks to this post, i think i 'm gonna wait more.
I think the Nexus 6 will be the best for what i want. It really pisses me a small battery autonomy.
I was a Note 2 user, and i get used to a big battery. Currently i'm with a S5 but not satisfied with the autonomy.
Note 4 is too much expensive, and that TW is too much boring right now.
I really thinking about N6, but there is not even a single mention about if it will be avaliable to us here in BR.
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I'm brazilian and was willing to buy this phone. BUT....thanks to this post, i think i 'm gonna wait more.
I think the Nexus 6 will be the best for what i want. It really pisses me a small battery autonomy.
I was a Note 2 user, and i get used to a big battery. Currently i'm with a S5 but not satisfied with the autonomy.
Note 4 is too much expensive, and that TW is too much boring right now.
I really thinking about N6, but there is not even a single mention about if it will be avaliable to us here in BR.
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Hey rafaelw,
I REALLY believe that the N6 will cost Note 4 money once it hits brazil, so try not to get your hopes up on that department.
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Hey rafaelw,
I REALLY believe that the N6 will cost Note 4 money once it hits brazil, so try not to get your hopes up on that department.
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I believe that at the launching it can be some high cost, but the Nexus line it's not the typically phone for the major BR population, making the price drop after some time. I never bought phones at the launching, I wait to drop it. The Note 4 is too much expensive, and the price drop is too much slow
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I believe that at the launching it can be some high cost, but the Nexus line it's not the typically phone for the major BR population, making the price drop after some time. I never bought phones at the launching, I wait to drop it
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You re right on that, but then again google never did make such a high end nexus phone... but hey, I get your point dude!
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You re right on that, but then again google never did make such a high end nexus phone... but hey, I get your point dude!
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Another question dude, what is the currently situation about Root and custom roms? Do you fell the need of them?
I don't know your historic with smartphones, but I'm at my 4th Android phone and one of the first things that I do in a new phone is to root it and search for custom roms.
(But the main reason to root is to freeze or uninstall crap softwares that came original installed, I don't think that Moto x have this problem).
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Another question dude, what is the currently situation about Root and custom roms? Do you fell the need of them?
I don't know your historic with smartphones, but I'm at my 4th Android phone and one of the first things that I do in a new phone is to root it and search for custom roms.
(But the main reason to root is to freeze or uninstall crap softwares that came original installed, I don't think that Moto x have this problem).
Thanks
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So, rooting is there but custom roms are not.
I am on my 6 android phone (had the sony x10, moto milestone 2, milestone 3, razr i, the original x and the new x). Before the original x I d root every single phone I had mainly for custom roms and better performance management so I think we are alike on that point
Now with that being said, since the original X I didn t see the need to root it. Performance was snappy from day one and it stayed that all all the way before I sold it. That baby was a beast. The new X feels the same to me. It is pretty much stock android feel and motorola software actually enhances the phone's usability without affecting the performance at all. I see that quite a few people have it rooted but, since most of my backup is done automatically using tasker and I store it on 2 different locations, I have very little to worry about
I couldn't wait anymore, got the XT1097 in FastShop.
Didn't root yet, the only thing I miss most is hibernating bad apps with Greenify... what do you guys do to tame apps that are insistent to start and consume cpu/mem/data all the time?
Just an observation which I'm pretty sure is software related. The same chipset with less ram is in my brother's moto g and there's no perceivable lag on that phone. An occasional stutter here and there is understandable but damn this thing slows way down. My guess is a dirty non optimized Sharp rom. Really, this thing should fly!
Something I noticed when comparing the Moto G with the Crystal on CPU-Z is Motorola has the CPU governor set to "Interactive" whereas the Crystal is set to "Ondemand"
Also you can't use ART on this phone which is a bummer because it definitely would help!
Also I've disabled Clip Now, Clip Now Setting, and Lumen toolbar so they're not running in the background.
I have too noticed some lag. It is most apparent for me when I switch apps quickly and open Hangouts to send a message and Swiftkey will not recognize any taps for about 20 seconds or so, and when I enter my PIN. I see more stuttering on the Crystal while scrolling through my Play apps while installing updates than what I did with my Optimus F3 that has a dual-core. It also was odd that ART is not available since it is with KK.
It looks like there is some kind of update for the Softbank version here http://www.softbank.jp/mobile/info/personal/software/20140917-01/ , so it might be making the rounds in carrier testing in the US. In Chrome's translation of the Japanese on the website it says that the Crystal will be supported for 3 years, so that looks nice.
As useful as Clip Now is, regular screenshots might be more efficient. I saw the app Greenify on the side-bar here on XDA, checked it out, and it works well to save battery life. It essentially "hibernates" apps and stops them from running in the background.
After reading the specs on this device awhile back, what you're describing isn't really a surprise.......which is probably why I won't purchase unless the Japanese version comes to the US.
Crystal Lag? Not on mine!
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After reading the specs on this device awhile back, what you're describing isn't really a surprise.......which is probably why I won't purchase unless the Japanese version comes to the US.
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Guys, I've lost count on how many smartphones & tablets I've had in past 8 years. Prior to getting the 306SH I was carrying a Note 3 from Tmobile which was rooted with a tweaked ROM and that sucker was F A S T! For most tasks I find my Sharp to be just as fast and in some cases FASTER than my former Note 3!
Yes, I uninstalled and disabled some apps I never use, like Drive, Google Play Books and Google Play Newsstand.
Bottom Line: Numbers don't always tell the truth when it comes to real life.
My Sharp Aquos Crystal flies. Sorry if yours doesn't.
Glenn
I think this is really nice phone. Not just the looks, but it performs quite well too.
I have not experienced any lag, so far, installed about 30 apps, took pictures, played music...
The music sounds pretty good coming out of the speakers too! Oh, I did install Apollo Music Player, as I did not see "stock" player there, only g-Music... As with all Androids, I think Greenify is a must-have app; even though we do not have root yet, it kills (user) apps that try to constantly run in background (FB, Skype, etc..).
After the first full charge yesterday when I bought it, right now is down to about 28%, so that's 1 day and 2 hours on battery. Not bad.
The wife loves it, mainly because of the unique design, but like the performance too; it's an upgrade for her aging Epic 4G Touch...
So far so good!
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Guys, I've lost count on how many smartphones & tablets I've had in past 8 years. Prior to getting the 306SH I was carrying a Note 3 from Tmobile which was rooted with a tweaked ROM and that sucker was F A S T! For most tasks I find my Sharp to be just as fast and in some cases FASTER than my former Note 3!
Yes, I uninstalled and disabled some apps I never use, like Drive, Google Play Books and Google Play Newsstand.
Bottom Line: Numbers don't always tell the truth when it comes to real life.
My Sharp Aquos Crystal flies. Sorry if yours doesn't.
Glenn
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No Glenn, your Crystal doesn't fly. It's
just faster than your Note 3, which isn't slightly surprising. Touchwiz ruins Android on many levels. Aside from that the fact remains it should run a near stock version of Android faster and smother than it does. Coming from a Nexus 4 I know what fast is.
I have both the Crystal and a Moto G. They perform exactly the same to me - both are pretty responsive and although I can get both to lag a little bit if I really try, it is pretty good considering the hardware.. I wonder if you might have some apps that are slowing things down for you?
I've had the Sprint prepaid and Boost versions of this phone. Texting becomes annoying with any keyboard I am using because touch and response doesn't always match up for some reason. Just can't get it right on this phone. This lag you speak of I definitely experienced. It happens most often when the battery is low under 15%. Try it out for yourself. You'll notice that's when the lag comes out to play. I mean its still operatable so can't complain too much but it's definitely noticeable. Must be a hidden power save feature. With that being said I've noticed the lag other times when too many apps are open in recents or the phone's been being used to long. Memory problem? Idk.
I have absolutely no lag on this phone what so ever. Sorry to those that are experiencing that, return it for a warranty replacement. I use this phone a lot, and it never slows down. I have been playing asphalt 8 with the graphics settings cranked up and no lag. You guys just got bad models, it happens with every manufacturer. My last phone was the lg optimus f7, I had to return it 4 times before I got one that was good.
i meet the same problem
Guys plz tell me which fone should i buy?
my requirements are
1)screen size should not be greater than 5.5 inches (not even 5.6)
2)price should be equal to or less than Rs.25000( about $380)
3) decent battery backup
4) should not lag at all and should be smooth to use
5) i should be able to use the phone for about 2 years without any problems
i was crazy about oneplus 2 initially but i see a lot of negative reviews . i saw a video of speedtest between oneplus 2 vs moto x play in which moto x play beats oneplus 2 easily (i am shocked and confused after watching this)
please help and guide me.
Most of the problems with oneplus 2 are software related and can be fixed. If oneplus wants to, we can have a beast phone. I would personally go for op2 again because of the looks and ability to flash ROMs without losing warranty but I don't blame you if you go for moto x.
Good answer. Went for one plus 2 just because of the development aspect and the great camera, mixed reviews, but I've loved it so far. Feels like bit of a gamble waiting for one plus to get the software optimised with the hardware, will they get there? If they don't someone else will though and I think, if you like things a bit rough round the edges with lots of potential for tweaking etc. Go 4 opt
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The play is on a completely different level than the oneplus 2. Even though the oneplus 2 is currently buggy due to poorly optimized software and a flaky cpu, it'll run circles around the moto x play. The play is using a modified version of the CPU in the galaxy s4 and HTC one M7. It's old, it's slow, the GPU is trash, and apparently has the same overheating issues the snapdragon 810 and 808 have. Now, the pure, on the other hand, can definitely keep up with the oneplus 2. I owned both the Moto x pure and the oneplus 2 at the same time and ended up returning the moto x, despite the fact that it was better in every measurable way than the oneplus 2 because it was uncomfortable to hold. The screen was a bit too big and the phone was a bit too wide and too thin and too slippery for my tastes. I dropped it several times during my time with it and just really was not a comfortable phone to hold. But to each their own, totally could have gone the other way, too, both good phones! (Well, ok, the oneplus 2 isn't good yet, but there's potential).
Honestly, if you want the best phone for that kind of money, get the oneplus one and don't even think twice about it. It's far better than the moto x play and the oneplus 2.
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The play is on a completely different level than the oneplus 2. Even though the oneplus 2 is currently buggy due to poorly optimized software and a flaky cpu, it'll run circles around the moto x play. The play is using a modified version of the CPU in the galaxy s4 and HTC one M7. It's old, it's slow, the GPU is trash, and apparently has the same overheating issues the snapdragon 810 and 808 have. Now, the pure, on the other hand, can definitely keep up with the oneplus 2. I owned both the Moto x pure and the oneplus 2 at the same time and ended up returning the moto x, despite the fact that it was better in every measurable way than the oneplus 2 because it was uncomfortable to hold. The screen was a bit too big and the phone was a bit too wide and too thin and too slippery for my tastes. I dropped it several times during my time with it and just really was not a comfortable phone to hold. But to each their own, totally could have gone the other way, too, both good phones! (Well, ok, the oneplus 2 isn't good yet, but there's potential).
Honestly, if you want the best phone for that kind of money, get the oneplus one and don't even think twice about it. It's far better than the moto x play and the oneplus 2.
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But i heard the complete opposite that if you dont have oneplus one then go for OP2 not oneplus one. Another question - If i buy OP2 and root it with other roms/Add kernels then will it void the warranty?
I like my OPT more and more every day. I'm a huge Motorola X guy but opted with OPT. I still own the Motorola X 2014 and Nexus 6.
One Plus 2 has huge potential but it may take a bit of time to get there.
The last update (2.1) has improved things and Android M hopefully will help too.
To be fair, I haven't had any issues with my phone. Screen is nice, fingerprint scanner works flawlessly (better than my Note 5), battery life has been good and overheating a non-issue for me. The camera is great.
Honestly, you can't go wrong with either phone.
I'm curious about this too.
I currently have a Moto X Pure and I LOVE it.... I've had it for about 3 weeks - but I just received my OP2 invite last week and went ahead and pulled the trigger and it should be here Monday or Tuesday.....But now, I'm not sure which one I want to keep?!?!
I can refuse the OP2 and get a refund, or sell it to my local/popular "used cell phone" re-seller for probably what I paid for it (or CL for a little more). Or I can keep it and sell the Moto X Pure for probably a little less than what I paid since it's been used for a few weeks.
The ONLY thing that has been the constant deal breaker is the front speakers on the Moto X Pure. I play in a band and watch a lot of YouTube videos to learn new songs and watch movies when I'm "on the road". The front facing speakers is, and has been since my HTC One M7, a big deal for me. How is the OP2 speaker? Is it better than the Galalxy S6?
Also, since owning the MXP, I've really become accustomed to the motion and sensors the MXP offers.... Just wave your hand over the phone to see any notifications or just touch the notification to see more detail (much more than just active display).
Things I REALLY miss... Notification lights. I'm constantly waving my hand over my phone to see if I've missed any calls or text. I had a Galaxy S6 for a little while and really liked the finger print scanner.
Things that seem close and don't sway me either way
OS - both seem nice
Camera - I need a good camera and both seem pretty "on par" with each other.
Custom ROMs - I'm sure the MXP will have plenty soon and the OP2 already has several
A few other concerns.. The MXP's battery life is just OK, not as good as my M8 was but about the same as my M9 (which isn't the best). It is better than the S6..... But I wish it was better. How is the OP2's battery?
USB C - I currently have about 6 or 7 actually active micro USB cables between home, my car, work and my computer bag that get used regularly... Plus my son and I share these chargers when on trips. USB C is the way we're all headed, but i'm not sure I'm ready to shell out $10-15 per cable just yet.
So.....Any input from someone that has owed both would be very helpful.
I have both.
On my Play i run ressurection remix with no problems. On my OPT i run stock with AK kernel.
Best with each phone:
Oneplus:
Camera (OIS and manual controls is awesome)
Fingerprint sensor
Double tap to wake
4gb ram
No lag
USB-c (expensive cables but soooo nice to press in the cable and dont have to think about upside down ;p
Community, more custom Roms and kernels. I think it's one guy cooking Roms for the Play, Only one....
Moto X Play:
Battery (this is the best with this phone, easy 6-7h SoT) With the oneplus i get 4h SoT with the same use.
Quick charge
Camera in daylight. Inside in poor light it's pretty bad.
Well, thats it... The oneplus is heavier but i like it, it feels more premium. I love the feeling with my kevlar back.
The Play lags alot, but it's software probs so it will most likely be fixed soon.
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Day 3 with my OP2 after sending back my Moto X Pure.....
What I miss about the Moto X Pure:
The great front facing speakers....Biggest complaint on the OP2 is thin sounding speakers
The Moto Gestures and always on listening (even with screen off)
Fast charging of the Moto X Pure....I'd come home from work at 60%, plug it in while I took a shower and change clothes.... 25 minutes later 100%
Daylight picture taking
The speakers (I had to say that one twice, it sounds so good).
What I like better about OnePlus2:
Battery life.... The OP2 gets 3.5 to 4 hrs of SOT... Moto X Pure (not the play), got 3 on a good day and never seen more.
Double tap to wake
Off-screen buttons (like on Samsung)
Notification lights! Probably my biggest complaint with my Moto, I missed the notifications LED.
Feels like a more premium build
Over-all picture taking - Not quite as good in nice light, but better in every other situation.
Fingerprint scanner, even though I don't use it, is quick....
More accessories that actually FIT.
A few more ROM's available.
FYI: I sent my Moto X Pure back because it has a few QC issues and I pre-ordered a Nexus 6P. If the OP2 had front speakers, I'd just keep it instead.... Really wish it did.
Imo, both phones are different takes on the same goal. For me it came down to the cpu/screen tradeoff as its clear both phones will have thriving dev communities (cm is really coming along for the pure now in month 1 of release).
The 810 in the OPT was just too hot and the screen just too bland. The 808 and qhd screen of the MXP have been a much more enjoyable experience for me.
Hey there!
I've recently been looking for a new smartphone. I found two smartphones I like: the Motorola X Play and the LG G3. Problem is, I just can't decide which one to pick. Can somebody please help me out? Thank you in advance!
What phone are you moving on from?
gekkeman said:
Hey there!
I've recently been looking for a new smartphone. I found two smartphones I like: the Motorola X Play and the LG G3. Problem is, I just can't decide which one to pick. Can somebody please help me out? Thank you in advance!
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LG G3 - A yesteryear "FLAGSHIP"
MOTO X PLAY - A newer "MIDRANGER"
Hope you know what to expect from these respective devices.
Hi had 2 g3 superb phone specially the 4k screen but battery poor
Moto x play superb battery and performance
However the G3 let's you choose which apps go full screen no soft keys at the bottom without the needs of root or apps
Something I really miss going to x play
Plus the firmware upgrade are pants still waiting for marshmallow to come out officially here
Hope it helps
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What phone are you moving on from?
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I'm currently using a Microsoft Lumia 640.
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Hi had 2 g3 superb phone specially the 4k screen but battery poor
Moto x play superb battery and performance
However the G3 let's you choose which apps go full screen no soft keys at the bottom without the needs of root or apps
Something I really miss going to x play
Plus the firmware upgrade are pants still waiting for marshmallow to come out officially here
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I thought G3 had 2K screen?
Anyway, thanks for your comment! I'll take it into consideration.
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I thought G3 had 2K screen?
Anyway, thanks for your comment! I'll take it into consideration.
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After using a Nexus 5 for a couple years I was ready to move on to something with a larger screen. I initially went with the LG G3 and I liked the experience. The phone was snappy and did better than the Nexus 5 in benchmarks. However, I had what seemed to be a not so rare yet not so common issue. The phone would randomly shut off by itself and require a battery pull and reseat before it would turn back on. I had to pull the battery, hold the power button for 15 seconds and then reseat the battery. Happened every day, some days twice. Now I may have just gotten unlucky but I've read reports on various forums about this issue. Turns out on some of the G3s the molding of the battery compartment isn't fitted to the size of the battery properly, so the battery can shift to the side losing contact with the phone.
I took it back to the store and they didn't have any more G3s in stock to swap it out for so I opted for the Moto X Play. Under Lollipop the X Play has some performance issues, specifically when it comes to scrollable apps like Chrome. They tend to micro stutter and freeze while scrolling. Under Marshmallow the issue is largely resolved. It still happens but not nearly as often. There also seems to be an issue with performance drop over time. I have to factory reset every few weeks otherwise the phone slows right down to a crawl. The X Play is a mid range device with a SoC that is known to be lackluster (SnapDragon 615). It's priced accordingly. Theoretically it should be better than the G3 by a little bit since that SoC is technically a 64bit chip, however Motorola has stuck to only releasing 32bit builds for it so that theoretical performance advantage is not there. The G3 performs better in benchmarks.
It comes down to a simple choice.
LG G3 - Better performance with worse battery life.
Moto X Play - Much better battery life with worse performance.
Both devices should cost about the same.
After my experience with both devices I plan on buying either a Nexus 5X or Nexus 6P outright. I love the battery life in the X Play however having to factory reset every few weeks is a pain and Motorola just isn't as fast with updates anymore. They used to be, but with this phone there is no official communication so there is no telling when updates are being released, its hard to find fastboot flashable factory images (Only in a thread here on XDA and its filefactory so downloads are really slow) and updates are only marginally faster than other manufacturers.
ToYeD said:
After using a Nexus 5 for a couple years I was ready to move on to something with a larger screen. I initially went with the LG G3 and I liked the experience. The phone was snappy and did better than the Nexus 5 in benchmarks. However, I had what seemed to be a not so rare yet not so common issue. The phone would randomly shut off by itself and require a battery pull and reseat before it would turn back on. I had to pull the battery, hold the power button for 15 seconds and then reseat the battery. Happened every day, some days twice. Now I may have just gotten unlucky but I've read reports on various forums about this issue. Turns out on some of the G3s the molding of the battery compartment isn't fitted to the size of the battery properly, so the battery can shift to the side losing contact with the phone.
I took it back to the store and they didn't have any more G3s in stock to swap it out for so I opted for the Moto X Play. Under Lollipop the X Play has some performance issues, specifically when it comes to scrollable apps like Chrome. They tend to micro stutter and freeze while scrolling. Under Marshmallow the issue is largely resolved. It still happens but not nearly as often. There also seems to be an issue with performance drop over time. I have to factory reset every few weeks otherwise the phone slows right down to a crawl. The X Play is a mid range device with a SoC that is known to be lackluster (SnapDragon 615). It's priced accordingly. Theoretically it should be better than the G3 by a little bit since that SoC is technically a 64bit chip, however Motorola has stuck to only releasing 32bit builds for it so that theoretical performance advantage is not there. The G3 performs better in benchmarks.
It comes down to a simple choice.
LG G3 - Better performance with worse battery life.
Moto X Play - Much better battery life with worse performance.
Both devices should cost about the same.
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Okey, clear! Thanks for this information! Greatly aprreciated! I think I'll go with the Moto. You said you reset the phone regularly, because if you don't it will eventually become very slow. Do you have any knowledge whether this is a common problem?
gekkeman said:
Okey, clear! Thanks for this information! Greatly aprreciated! I think I'll go with the Moto. You said you reset the phone regularly, because if you don't it will eventually become very slow. Do you have any knowledge whether this is a common problem?
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Nothing concrete. Just a couple of others on these forums reporting the same, but a couple people doesn't mean it's an across the board issue. It's probably just an issue with a small fraction of the X plays produced. All I know is it was a hard decision going from a Nexus to a non Nexus device and my experience made it easy to decide to go back. You may not have any of these issues with either the g3 or the X Play.
Motorola build quality is better than LG's, and the X Play is a nicer object to hold, look at, and use than the G3.
I have both phones right in front of me right now..... and I prefer the LG G3.
Out of the box... the G3 has a nicer firmware with a LOT more options.
On the other hand, Motorolla has Marshmallow updates.
Pros LG G3
- much better camera, even if less pixels, the image quality is a lot clearer and less grainy. The laser focus helps a lot.
-better screen resolution (quad HD)
- more RAM (3Gb)
- removable battery
- 32gb of space
- to me, i feel the LG g3 feels less cheap than the motorolla, specially the buttons on the side of the motorolla feels cheap. Also dont like the fake leather back cover.
- phone speaker is louder. (not the loudspeaker)
-more cases and accessories atm. Lots of custom roms, easy to root and stuff.
Pros Moto X play
- brighter screen, more vibrant colors
- better battery life, but its also a bigger battery (but its non removable)
- 21mp camera in 4:3 mode..... but its very grainy. It has better low light performances than the G3 a little... but again... the result is VERY grainy.
- loudspeaker is louder than G3 but not as nice sounding
- good front camera
- bigger 8 core CPU
- faster in some apps, but not in everything.
So yeah.... I made my choice on the LG for the more customizable interface out of the box and the much better camera.
Other than that..... really similar phone. Performance are both nice and fast. they both have some apps they perform better than the other but cant really give a winner there.
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After using a Nexus 5 for a couple years I was ready to move on to something with a larger screen. I initially went with the LG G3 and I liked the experience. The phone was snappy and did better than the Nexus 5 in benchmarks. However, I had what seemed to be a not so rare yet not so common issue. The phone would randomly shut off by itself and require a battery pull and reseat before it would turn back on. I had to pull the battery, hold the power button for 15 seconds and then reseat the battery. Happened every day, some days twice. Now I may have just gotten unlucky but I've read reports on various forums about this issue. Turns out on some of the G3s the molding of the battery compartment isn't fitted to the size of the battery properly, so the battery can shift to the side losing contact with the phone.
I took it back to the store and they didn't have any more G3s in stock to swap it out for so I opted for the Moto X Play. Under Lollipop the X Play has some performance issues, specifically when it comes to scrollable apps like Chrome. They tend to micro stutter and freeze while scrolling. Under Marshmallow the issue is largely resolved. It still happens but not nearly as often. There also seems to be an issue with performance drop over time. I have to factory reset every few weeks otherwise the phone slows right down to a crawl. The X Play is a mid range device with a SoC that is known to be lackluster (SnapDragon 615). It's priced accordingly. Theoretically it should be better than the G3 by a little bit since that SoC is technically a 64bit chip, however Motorola has stuck to only releasing 32bit builds for it so that theoretical performance advantage is not there. The G3 performs better in benchmarks.
It comes down to a simple choice.
LG G3 - Better performance with worse battery life.
Moto X Play - Much better battery life with worse performance.
Both devices should cost about the same.
After my experience with both devices I plan on buying either a Nexus 5X or Nexus 6P outright. I love the battery life in the X Play however having to factory reset every few weeks is a pain and Motorola just isn't as fast with updates anymore. They used to be, but with this phone there is no official communication so there is no telling when updates are being released, its hard to find fastboot flashable factory images (Only in a thread here on XDA and its filefactory so downloads are really slow) and updates are only marginally faster than other manufacturers.
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I had to reset only once after updating to 6.0. Since then it's working fine. The lags are no more in 6.0.
Also sd615 has newer architecture so doesnt mean, it's better. It's still a mid range chip (615) and Motorola did the right thing by not providing the 64 but software. G3's maybe an old chip but that was a flagship chip and still is which has better performance than this newer chip.
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ToYeD said:
Nothing concrete. Just a couple of others on these forums reporting the same, but a couple people doesn't mean it's an across the board issue. It's probably just an issue with a small fraction of the X plays produced. All I know is it was a hard decision going from a Nexus to a non Nexus device and my experience made it easy to decide to go back. You may not have any of these issues with either the g3 or the X Play.
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Okey, thanks a lot!
I also had the same dilema. Went with the Moto X Play and a month later I know I made the right choice. Amazing design, great screen, amazing battery life and stock android is WAY WAY WAY better then LG`s nasty UI. Oh am I am getting updates haha.
obviously MXP , how many phones out there give 10hours of SOT and that's with dual sim ??
I will gladly trade a few cores for extra SOT.
gekkeman said:
Okey, clear! Thanks for this information! Greatly aprreciated! I think I'll go with the Moto. You said you reset the phone regularly, because if you don't it will eventually become very slow. Do you have any knowledge whether this is a common problem?
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Hey I thought I'd give my thoughts. I've owned both and I gotta say although I loved the G3, after having the battery life of the x play I could not go back. As far as the slowing down if you are in XDA and flashing roms then that's not something I would be too concerned with in the near future (say 2 years). I also found no matter which rom I used on the G3 it seemed to want to overheat a lot. Just my thoughts, hope it helps.
joeanca said:
Hey I thought I'd give my thoughts. I've owned both and I gotta say although I loved the G3, after having the battery life of the x play I could not go back. As far as the slowing down if you are in XDA and flashing roms then that's not something I would be too concerned with in the near future (say 2 years). I also found no matter which rom I used on the G3 it seemed to want to overheat a lot. Just my thoughts, hope it helps.
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Could you tell me something about what roms exactly are?
I see them as operating systems for the phone, think of the equivalent of different versions of Windows for your phone (XP, Windows 7, or 10) they key here is that they are somewhat personalized and give you different looks and functions that perhaps your stock experience wouldn't. An example of this is better battery life, or options such as changing the look of the whole user experience. They also, and for the most part, enhance your phones capabilities(responsiveness and security) and give you quicker updates than lg or Motorola would. Hope this helps.
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obviously MXP , how many phones out there give 10hours of SOT and that's with dual sim ??
I will gladly trade a few cores for extra SOT.
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You're absolutely right. I've made up my mind and decided to go with the Moto. All I have to do now is find a carrier that meets my needs, order the phone and enjoy it;s great features, one of which is the great SOT!
i am just curious what made you choose the moto z force. i am deciding between this and the lg v20. coming from the note 7.
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The battery mostly, plus, to a lesser extent, the mods and reading how fast and smooth it was.
Battery life, Shatter Shield, and Moto's seeming desire to remain as stock android as possible.
The Mods, especially the external battery mod, also played a big part. Being able to add on extra juice... I tend to be a heavy user of my phone and always kinda worry that I'm going to run out of juice.
I got it because I have had motorola in the past and like them. I had the Note 7 which I loved, but couldn't keep due to the fire issue. This phone had good reviews, fast, large battery. It is a very smooth phone. The negative is that I don't think that there are too many out there so development support may be less than with other phones. It is a good phone.
Most because the LG G5. I had 3 generations of Gs but considered the 5 a wrong step and looked for something else.
The Moto Zs are as unique as the Gs were.
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I got it because I have had motorola in the past and like them. I had the Note 7 which I loved, but couldn't keep due to the fire issue. This phone had good reviews, fast, large battery. It is a very smooth phone. The negative is that I don't think that there are too many out there so development support may be less than with other phones. It is a good phone.
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@Smithfolk4 i am so disappointed about the note 7. i can't seem to choose a replacement because nothing compares. how do u like it compared to the note 7?
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@Smithfolk4 i am so disappointed about the note 7. i can't seem to choose a replacement because nothing compares. how do u like it compared to the note 7?
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I agree it is not the Note 7, but the Z Force is a very good phone. Maybe the next best. You might like the S7 Edge, but I am not a fan of the curved screen and the Edge has a more pronounced curve. Maybe the Pixel XL? I haven't seen one of those. I do really like the Z Force. I wish it had an LED indicator, but I am getting used to the notifications on it and they are fine once you get used to them. I certainly recommend this phone as very good.
I had an original Moto X and loved the ecosystem. The battery was a plus, and definitely why I chose the Force over the non-force Z. The mods are cool, but really had nothing to do with the decision.
I did not have a Note, but had the galaxy phones 2-5, I can say it is hard at first to get used to coming from touch wiz, but a million times better when you get used to it. My coworkers who are note owners...or past note owners envy my phone and talk about how much better and more responsive it is.
I guess to better answer this question it would be helpful to understand your typical usage but my overall experience with it is amazing.
The camera is amazing for a non dslr including low light photo and video. I took a video recording at a concert and was blown away by the audio and video quality.
I played minecraft on max settings hosting a multiplayer world and using a bluetooth controller and performance felt on par with the PS4.
I have used it for running a bluetooth scantool for automotive diagnostics and was impressed by the speed at which it could perform a full scan. Rivaled only my high level ($1,000+) scan tools.
I use it for remote desktop use at work while in the field with a bluetooth keyboard for true desktop computing with no issues.
Project cars has apps which run with the video game and the response is great with no noticable latency.
Controlling Chromecast works extremely well as well as screencasting to include emulators.
Runs fPSe, a playstation emulator with not problem at all.
As you can see I use it for a wide range of things, I could go on but dont want to bore you with irrelevant information based on your needs and expectations of a device.
I too am trying to decide between the LG V20 and the Moto Z Force. Anyone regret the Force? think maybe you should have got the regular Z or the Z Play instead?
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I too am trying to decide between the LG V20 and the Moto Z Force. Anyone regret the Force? think maybe you should have got the regular Z or the Z Play instead?
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i ended up goong with the v20. will try it out and if i dont like it, i can restock it for $35 and get thr z force.
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i ended up goong with the v20. will try it out and if i dont like it, i can restock it for $35 and get thr z force.
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No way for me to compare to a V20, but I've had a Z Force since the first week and have been very happy with it. I had a LG G4 before and there's no comparison in terms of build quality. My G4 failed twice under warranty and always felt cheap. The Z Force feels like a slab of steel in your hand, it's awesome.
I had gotten used to the LG style Android., but the Moto's nearly stock approach is really nice. The only thing I really miss is that you can't switch the "back" and "menu" buttons, which I did because I prefer the back button on the right for easier one-handed operation. Can't do that on the force (without root, which isn't possible yet/ever on my Verizon phone) but I got used to it soon enough.
I do not regret the Force and feel I should have gotten the others, and I am on verizon prepaid the only place that would let me pre order was best buy for $800 said the jbl mod was free but just added the price to the phone. I am glad I got that though, I was going to get the incipio mod and dont feel I have the need for it now.
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Most because the LG G5. I had 3 generations of Gs but considered the 5 a wrong step and looked for something else.
The Moto Zs are as unique as the Gs were.
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you and i are on the same boat. I left motorola for the lgg2, then g3, upgrade was coming up and g5 disapointed me then i saw the moto z force and started to love it
I like the Moto take on Android. Shattershield has value to me (I didn't feel the need for insurance). Good battery life. Only have the speaker mod but it's good. Camera may be a tick behind the very best, but quite good. The phone is very fast and fluid.
I'm a Moto fan, using the Z force it's one of the best Moto handsets I ever used, design wise, performance and the Moto mods, really it's unique.
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I have had Motorola since bag phone days, and law enforcement radios prior to that. They know radios, hence phones. Tired of rooting and looking for something for a couple of years. Really like the Z Force.
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