i am just curious what made you choose the moto z force. i am deciding between this and the lg v20. coming from the note 7.
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The battery mostly, plus, to a lesser extent, the mods and reading how fast and smooth it was.
Battery life, Shatter Shield, and Moto's seeming desire to remain as stock android as possible.
The Mods, especially the external battery mod, also played a big part. Being able to add on extra juice... I tend to be a heavy user of my phone and always kinda worry that I'm going to run out of juice.
I got it because I have had motorola in the past and like them. I had the Note 7 which I loved, but couldn't keep due to the fire issue. This phone had good reviews, fast, large battery. It is a very smooth phone. The negative is that I don't think that there are too many out there so development support may be less than with other phones. It is a good phone.
Most because the LG G5. I had 3 generations of Gs but considered the 5 a wrong step and looked for something else.
The Moto Zs are as unique as the Gs were.
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I got it because I have had motorola in the past and like them. I had the Note 7 which I loved, but couldn't keep due to the fire issue. This phone had good reviews, fast, large battery. It is a very smooth phone. The negative is that I don't think that there are too many out there so development support may be less than with other phones. It is a good phone.
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@Smithfolk4 i am so disappointed about the note 7. i can't seem to choose a replacement because nothing compares. how do u like it compared to the note 7?
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@Smithfolk4 i am so disappointed about the note 7. i can't seem to choose a replacement because nothing compares. how do u like it compared to the note 7?
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I agree it is not the Note 7, but the Z Force is a very good phone. Maybe the next best. You might like the S7 Edge, but I am not a fan of the curved screen and the Edge has a more pronounced curve. Maybe the Pixel XL? I haven't seen one of those. I do really like the Z Force. I wish it had an LED indicator, but I am getting used to the notifications on it and they are fine once you get used to them. I certainly recommend this phone as very good.
I had an original Moto X and loved the ecosystem. The battery was a plus, and definitely why I chose the Force over the non-force Z. The mods are cool, but really had nothing to do with the decision.
I did not have a Note, but had the galaxy phones 2-5, I can say it is hard at first to get used to coming from touch wiz, but a million times better when you get used to it. My coworkers who are note owners...or past note owners envy my phone and talk about how much better and more responsive it is.
I guess to better answer this question it would be helpful to understand your typical usage but my overall experience with it is amazing.
The camera is amazing for a non dslr including low light photo and video. I took a video recording at a concert and was blown away by the audio and video quality.
I played minecraft on max settings hosting a multiplayer world and using a bluetooth controller and performance felt on par with the PS4.
I have used it for running a bluetooth scantool for automotive diagnostics and was impressed by the speed at which it could perform a full scan. Rivaled only my high level ($1,000+) scan tools.
I use it for remote desktop use at work while in the field with a bluetooth keyboard for true desktop computing with no issues.
Project cars has apps which run with the video game and the response is great with no noticable latency.
Controlling Chromecast works extremely well as well as screencasting to include emulators.
Runs fPSe, a playstation emulator with not problem at all.
As you can see I use it for a wide range of things, I could go on but dont want to bore you with irrelevant information based on your needs and expectations of a device.
I too am trying to decide between the LG V20 and the Moto Z Force. Anyone regret the Force? think maybe you should have got the regular Z or the Z Play instead?
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I too am trying to decide between the LG V20 and the Moto Z Force. Anyone regret the Force? think maybe you should have got the regular Z or the Z Play instead?
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i ended up goong with the v20. will try it out and if i dont like it, i can restock it for $35 and get thr z force.
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i ended up goong with the v20. will try it out and if i dont like it, i can restock it for $35 and get thr z force.
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No way for me to compare to a V20, but I've had a Z Force since the first week and have been very happy with it. I had a LG G4 before and there's no comparison in terms of build quality. My G4 failed twice under warranty and always felt cheap. The Z Force feels like a slab of steel in your hand, it's awesome.
I had gotten used to the LG style Android., but the Moto's nearly stock approach is really nice. The only thing I really miss is that you can't switch the "back" and "menu" buttons, which I did because I prefer the back button on the right for easier one-handed operation. Can't do that on the force (without root, which isn't possible yet/ever on my Verizon phone) but I got used to it soon enough.
I do not regret the Force and feel I should have gotten the others, and I am on verizon prepaid the only place that would let me pre order was best buy for $800 said the jbl mod was free but just added the price to the phone. I am glad I got that though, I was going to get the incipio mod and dont feel I have the need for it now.
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Most because the LG G5. I had 3 generations of Gs but considered the 5 a wrong step and looked for something else.
The Moto Zs are as unique as the Gs were.
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you and i are on the same boat. I left motorola for the lgg2, then g3, upgrade was coming up and g5 disapointed me then i saw the moto z force and started to love it
I like the Moto take on Android. Shattershield has value to me (I didn't feel the need for insurance). Good battery life. Only have the speaker mod but it's good. Camera may be a tick behind the very best, but quite good. The phone is very fast and fluid.
I'm a Moto fan, using the Z force it's one of the best Moto handsets I ever used, design wise, performance and the Moto mods, really it's unique.
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I have had Motorola since bag phone days, and law enforcement radios prior to that. They know radios, hence phones. Tired of rooting and looking for something for a couple of years. Really like the Z Force.
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I am a very picky phone owner, let me just say that right away. I always have a different phone cause I need to have the latest and greatest. After having the moto x I truly feel as if this is the best overall phone out right now for me.
The s4 was just too damn big and I felt like I always need to use both hands to do anything. Sure the camera was nice but it my daily use its not as big a difference as people make it out too be. Battery was OK, but my x is way better!!
The htc one def has the nicest screen out. But unless your staring at both of these phones side by side the difference is negligible. The camera on the one was absolutely horrible no matter what the conditions! Blurry and over processed colors. Battery life was good but again the x is way better.
I think that overall for what I use the phone for, the x is gonna be with me for a while. I love the size!!! Feel perfect, a good size screen and yet I don't need two hands to always use it. The active notifications are awesome!! Screen is good for me, I'm not one to purposely stare at the screen to try and see if I can see pixels etc. Battery life is awesome, I'm easily getting 4+ hours of screen on time. The camera is not nearly as bad as most reviews report, in my findings. Yes the s4 is better but the moto x holds its own!
I'd like more dev support cause I'm a crackflasher. I'm sure it will come. But if it doesn't happen I'm OK with it because the phone is pretty much the way I'd want a ROM to be anyways.
^^^^ i agree
^^^^^^ I agree x2
As someone who was a hardcore flashaholic this is the first phone I've had that I don't feel the need to immediately load a new ROM onto.
Agreed - I've had tons of android phones (G1, G2, evo and evo 3d, moto backflip, droid and droid 3, galaxy S2, nexus 1, nexus S, gnex, and even the kyocera echo), but once I went to an iphone 5, I swore I'd never go back.
Once ios7 was out though, android started looking more appealing to me again. Moto X is the phone that brought me back! I've gone to the store multiple times to play with the GS4 and the HTC one, but I could never pull the trigger.
The Moto X is the phone that brought me back to android. I love it
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I am a very picky phone owner, let me just say that right away. I always have a different phone cause I need to have the latest and greatest. After having the moto x I truly feel as if this is the best overall phone out right now for me.
The s4 was just too damn big and I felt like I always need to use both hands to do anything. Sure the camera was nice but it my daily use its not as big a difference as people make it out too be. Battery was OK, but my x is way better!!
The htc one def has the nicest screen out. But unless your staring at both of these phones side by side the difference is negligible. The camera on the one was absolutely horrible no matter what the conditions! Blurry and over processed colors. Battery life was good but again the x is way better.
I think that overall for what I use the phone for, the x is gonna be with me for a while. I love the size!!! Feel perfect, a good size screen and yet I don't need two hands to always use it. The active notifications are awesome!! Screen is good for me, I'm not one to purposely stare at the screen to try and see if I can see pixels etc. Battery life is awesome, I'm easily getting 4+ hours of screen on time. The camera is not nearly as bad as most reviews report, in my findings. Yes the s4 is better but the moto x holds its own!
I'd like more dev support cause I'm a crackflasher. I'm sure it will come. But if it doesn't happen I'm OK with it because the phone is pretty much the way I'd want a ROM to be anyways.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one. MOTO X is nice.
This phone with a few tweaks with Xposed is really really great. Battery is stellar. The camera is not the best however once the software is fixed it will be fine. The only thing I'm missing is t9 dialer. I'll find a way to push the CM apk.
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I am a very picky phone owner, let me just say that right away. I always have a different phone cause I need to have the latest and greatest. After having the moto x I truly feel as if this is the best overall phone out right now for me.
The s4 was just too damn big and I felt like I always need to use both hands to do anything. Sure the camera was nice but it my daily use its not as big a difference as people make it out too be. Battery was OK, but my x is way better!!
The htc one def has the nicest screen out. But unless your staring at both of these phones side by side the difference is negligible. The camera on the one was absolutely horrible no matter what the conditions! Blurry and over processed colors. Battery life was good but again the x is way better.
I think that overall for what I use the phone for, the x is gonna be with me for a while. I love the size!!! Feel perfect, a good size screen and yet I don't need two hands to always use it. The active notifications are awesome!! Screen is good for me, I'm not one to purposely stare at the screen to try and see if I can see pixels etc. Battery life is awesome, I'm easily getting 4+ hours of screen on time. The camera is not nearly as bad as most reviews report, in my findings. Yes the s4 is better but the moto x holds its own!
I'd like more dev support cause I'm a crackflasher. I'm sure it will come. But if it doesn't happen I'm OK with it because the phone is pretty much the way I'd want a ROM to be anyways.
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How is the video recording? Have you used it to record any concerts with bass? I'm about to get the X in November. How does it record in comparison to the HTC One? I heard the One has really good speakers and recording.. Thanks!
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I agree. I also tend to always have the latest and greatest and waffle between ios and android. Most recently I came from the HTC One Developer Edition and although I really liked that phone the Moto X is much better for me. The ergonomics are just great, not much bigger than an iphone 5, and the battery is very good. The active notifications are just brilliant and with them I rarely need to use the power button, just a quick swipe and I'm were I need to be. Killer phone.
Agreed. I had the HTC One and then the GS4 Active shortly after that and now I have the Moto X. This thing runs circles around both those phones in every regard. Don't miss a single thing about either of them.
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Yeah same here. Best phone I've ever owned. I got over 5 hrs screen on today with 25% left. Came from the HTC one and no regrets. Haven't rooted Yet, probably won't. Exposed framework looks interesting though.
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Im also very picky in how I like my phone look and function both hardware/software. im still waiting for my moto x to get unlocked But so far I still need a new ROM.
Need to remove att garbage
Need quick toggles to be customizable. Add WiFi tethering/ flashlight etc. Also don't like how single click takes you to the menu on a specific toggle instead holding it toggles the feature.
Would like paranoid ROM, halo is a nice feature I got used to on my nexus 4
Id settle for quick toggles fix and halo (not that I have a choice) STOP SAYING YOU DONT NEED ROMS!!
That being said I like how minimalistic (ROM) Motorola is now and see myself buying more of their devices. Personally hate Samsung galaxy series. There is no need for a physical buttons on screen is the way to go.
Hope the moto x gets some good people working on Roms. I love the size of this phone and really want to stop jumping from phone to phone chasing that perfect combination. But my guess is the grass will always seems to be greener on the other side......nexus 5.
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Elsnake, I never said that I don't need ROMs. I said that I would like Dev support, once some issues get worked out. But I also said that I'm OK if we stay with the level of mods we have now.
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According to cnn it is the best android phone
http://money.cnn.com/2013/10/08/technology/moto-x/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
Still getting used to the smaller screen from my S4 GPe. Just got the moto x on Tuesday so gonna stick with it for a few weeks.
If I HAD to decide today I would go back to my S4. Which is why I committed to at least two weeks. We'll see.
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Still getting used to the smaller screen from my S4 GPe. Just got the moto x on Tuesday so gonna stick with it for a few weeks.
If I HAD to decide today I would go back to my S4. Which is why I committed to at least two weeks. We'll see.
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Would you mind elaborating as to why. Thx
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Would you mind elaborating as to why. Thx
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The icons and fonts are much smaller than a s4 screen. Especially when you factor in the on screen buttons the actual usable screen is much less than than I was expecting. In fact I am not to sure if it is much bigger than my iPhone 5.
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After soft bricking my GS4, I had to get a new phone while i work on that. I had been eyeing the Moto X and it was cheap. But now that i have been playing with it for a few days, its great. For me the Software is great, I love the voice commands, coming from an iphone i sorely missed siri and I feel that Moto X realy handles this better then the GS4.
As for hardware, I miss my GS4. The bigger screen was nice, and I loved the IR blaster.
If I could get the Moto X Rom on to the GS4 ( after I unbrick it) that would be ideal.
I've been looking at this phone but the fact is Nexus 5 will be a better device in terms of hardware, software and future updates.
Also I love the people here saying this is the best phone they've ever used. I think they copy paste that from their post on their prior phones.
I'm sure moto x is a great phone but its momentary. When you get your next phone that'll be the best one yet.
Prove me wrong, keep your moto x for 1 year and I'll be impressed. Doubt many of you in this forum will do that.
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Coming from the Note 2 (and about every phone before that) I'm happy with my decision.
Something definitely feels off the first two days transitioning from the Note 2. Then I realized what it is: I'm not holding a mini-tablet anymore.
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I've been looking at this phone but the fact is Nexus 5 will be a better device in terms of hardware, software and future updates.
Also I love the people here saying this is the best phone they've ever used. I think they copy paste that from their post on their prior phones.
I'm sure moto x is a great phone but its momentary. When you get your next phone that'll be the best one yet.
Prove me wrong, keep your moto x for 1 year and I'll be impressed. Doubt many of you in this forum will do that.
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Man, what an asshole comment!!!
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I have an Samsung S5 right now and have been tempted to pick up a Moto X. I would prefer the 32GB but you can't even order them online at this time so was thinking of 16GB at AT&T store. I can freeze the bloatware so not worried about that.
My main hesitation is I can't figure out what I'm really gaining from my S5. Screen is about the same, same CPU, same RAM, camera on S5 is better, bigger battery on S5, software is better on X, build quality is better...
So it sort of comes down to better build quality and software. Everything else would be the same or not much different.
Has anyone gone from S5 to X and what's been your experience?>
I'm on the same boat. I have an unlocked S5 16gb version. I got it in hopes that the S5 google edition would be released and I would simply convert it. Totally bummed because that never happened and I'm used to Google edition or Nexus phones. The S5 is riddled with constant lag across the UI and popups everywhere. Also the bloat on the S5 is amazing. I turned off most of the apps and found that this caused errors on other apps I couldn't disable, must be due to some dependencies. So I decided to go with Moto X, which is still currently being built and I'm expecting to receive on 10/8.
Some things I'll probably miss include the bigger battery (S5 easily lasts me all day with heavy use), SD card slot (had an extra 64GB for music and pics), and the IR blaster which I used to control my TVs or simply prank people :laugh:
But I'm willing to overlook all of the above since I'll be getting a better software experience, something I miss from all of my previous nexus phones and my S4 GPE.
I just came from a Galaxy Note 3 Developer Edition (running CM11) to the Verizon Moto X.
When you consider the unlockable bootloader, 3gb of RAM, and screen size, and S pen, the N3 DE has some advantages on paper vs the X.
I'm not trying to justify anything, nor convince anyone else to change.
My needs changed, somewhat, in terms of size, and I needed something just a little smaller. At 5.2", the new Moto X was about right for me. I would have not even considered changing if the X did not have stock AOSP, and such outstanding reviews.
So far, I am not disappointed with the X. But it is definitely not a competitor of the Note Series.
It is an outstanding device, though for someone who wants stock AOSP, and a very fast, smooth responsive OS.
I made this exact switch this past weekend. The S5 is a great phone, but I simply can't resist the combination of stock android and Motorola's enhancements. I love the look, feel, and fluidity of the Moto X, and the front facing speakers are wonderful (I stream a lot of radio at work). I really did enjoy the S5, and I will miss the screen and camera there, but overall I'm really enjoying the Moto X and am happy with my decision to switch.
The 32 GB is available again. If you want a white front those are delayed. I just built one (just for fun, pure edition) a little while ago.
I'll be getting the Verizon version tomorrow and I have the S5. I'll see if its worth the switch, if not I'll send it back.
I got an update yesterday night, and my new customized Moto X arrives tomorrow morning! Good thing I work from home tomorrow so I'll have it up and running in no time! Pretty excited!
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I got an update yesterday night, and my new customized Moto X arrives tomorrow morning! Good thing I work from home tomorrow so I'll have it up and running in no time! Pretty excited!
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I got mine today and I'm not sure if I like it.
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I got mine today and I'm not sure if I like it.
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Can you elaborate?
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Can you elaborate?
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It just doesn't have that wow factor. For me it's just a bigger screen. They're both snappy and fluid. I'm not seeing anything yet that says I'm a keeper. Is there something that you or others have seen or read that makes it stand out?
I disagree (just my opinion). I'm a phone hopper. I get the latest and greatest as soon as they come out (tablets included) and besides the battery life, which isn't the worst in the world by any means, this is hands down my favorite phone to date. My last 5 phones were the One Plus One 64g, Oppo N1 CM edition, Galaxy S5, Nexus 5, M8 and Note 3 (that's 7). I personally wouldn't go back to ANY of them from this years Moto X. It's really all about preference. I like stock android with a few bells and whistles. And the bells and whistles that Motorola has sprinkled in work flawlessly and I actually use. I'm not dogging Samsung, but the first thing I do when I get one of their devices is turn every single useless gimmicky crap off and put a Google Now launcher and Google Keyboard on it. I also have the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 LTE with phone capabilities (to troll some people when making phone calls lol) and did all of what I said above to it before I installed anything. I hate to compare Motorola to Apple because the iphone and iPad bores the hell out of me, but Motorola paired their hardware and software as well as Apple does for the user experience. I prefer this phone over the red Nexus 5 and I'm a Nexus head. Just my two cents and my preference. If you're looking for a phone with zero lag, a beautiful screen, nice looking build, front facing firing speaker (which is dam loud BTW) and just an all around dam near perfect experience using it, then get the Moto X. If you're more concerned with battery life, removable battery, better camera and ALL the bells and whistles Samsung pours in then stick with the S5. The S5 is a great phone! And SD card support and IR blaster. Samsung's awesome.. I just prefer this Moto X.
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I disagree (just my opinion). I'm a phone hopper. I get the latest and greatest as soon as they come out (tablets included) and besides the battery life, which isn't the worst in the world by any means, this is hands down my favorite phone to date. My last 5 phones were the One Plus One 64g, Oppo N1 CM edition, Galaxy S5, Nexus 5, M8 and Note 3 (that's 7). I personally wouldn't go back to ANY of them from this years Moto X. It's really all about preference. I like stock android with a few bells and whistles. And the bells and whistles that Motorola has sprinkled in work flawlessly and I actually use. I'm not dogging Samsung, but the first thing I do when I get one of their devices is turn every single useless gimmicky crap off and put a Google Now launcher and Google Keyboard on it. I also have the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 LTE with phone capabilities (to troll some people when making phone calls lol) and did all of what I said above to it before I installed anything. I hate to compare Motorola to Apple because the iphone and iPad bores the hell out of me, but Motorola paired their hardware and software as well as Apple does for the user experience. I prefer this phone over the red Nexus 5 and I'm a Nexus head. Just my two cents and my preference. If you're looking for a phone with zero lag, a beautiful screen, nice looking build, front facing firing speaker (which is dam loud BTW) and just an all around dam near perfect experience using it, then get the Moto X. If you're more concerned with battery life, removable battery, better camera and ALL the bells and whistles Samsung pours in then stick with the S5. The S5 is a great phone! And SD card support and IR blaster. Samsung's awesome.. I just prefer this Moto X.
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Since you have had so many phones could you please compare the one-handed usage experience between the M8, S5, and the Moto X (2014)? How would you rank them in that aspect?
I made the switch and while I am overall happy, I am very disappointed in the way that the Moto X handles drops. The GS5 is a beast and can handle abuse butI had a small spill last night that would've left the GS5 with nothing more than a scratch, however my X got a quadruple crack at the top left corner that extended all the way across the screen. And then magically a new crack formed this morning at the bottom COMPLETELY out of nowhere. This phone is great but it's SUPER FRAGILE.
i think the best way to say it is if you use the few features that moto has put on their phone, then you will have a much better experience over the gs5. other than that... its just a phone. there is something to be said for the beauty of the leather backs also.
I have used but not owned an S phone since the first generation (Epic with keyboard, great for its day). I use a Galaxy Note 10.1 tablet and a Moto G phone at the moment. Everything about the Samsung experience is some window dressing hanging off of android. I really like the note, but all of the touchwiz junk added to the device is irritating. With Motorola, it is all clean. Where they add, they do so through apps, so there is better control. On my G, I changed to the Nexus experience launcher, and the difference from the one packaged with the phone is almost imperceptible - I just gained a swipe to a screen of cards. The S5 and 2014 X are so technically similar, it will come down to if you like the Samsung experience or want closer to Nexus.
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So far, I am not disappointed with the X. But it is definitely not a competitor of the Note Series.
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It's not supposed to be imo, they are two different class of device. I think the Shamu will be more comparable, even then it's not designed with stylus in mind I think. The note is pretty much on it's own until a real stylus phone competitor come along.
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I disagree (just my opinion). I'm a phone hopper. I get the latest and greatest as soon as they come out (tablets included) and besides the battery life, which isn't the worst in the world by any means, this is hands down my favorite phone to date. My last 5 phones were the One Plus One 64g, Oppo N1 CM edition, Galaxy S5, Nexus 5, M8 and Note 3 (that's 7). I personally wouldn't go back to ANY of them from this years Moto X. It's really all about preference. I like stock android with a few bells and whistles. And the bells and whistles that Motorola has sprinkled in work flawlessly and I actually use. I'm not dogging Samsung, but the first thing I do when I get one of their devices is turn every single useless gimmicky crap off and put a Google Now launcher and Google Keyboard on it. I also have the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 LTE with phone capabilities (to troll some people when making phone calls lol) and did all of what I said above to it before I installed anything. I hate to compare Motorola to Apple because the iphone and iPad bores the hell out of me, but Motorola paired their hardware and software as well as Apple does for the user experience. I prefer this phone over the red Nexus 5 and I'm a Nexus head. Just my two cents and my preference. If you're looking for a phone with zero lag, a beautiful screen, nice looking build, front facing firing speaker (which is dam loud BTW) and just an all around dam near perfect experience using it, then get the Moto X. If you're more concerned with battery life, removable battery, better camera and ALL the bells and whistles Samsung pours in then stick with the S5. The S5 is a great phone! And SD card support and IR blaster. Samsung's awesome.. I just prefer this Moto X.
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I have two questions for you, because you have used other phones, so you will be able to tell better, firstly, is the camera really improved from last year's X? And secondly how much Screen On time are you getting with normal usage?
I personally am looking for a phone to upgrade from my 2013 X, and I just can't find anything worthy!
S5: Great hardware, bearable design, brilliant display, very good camera, but TouchWiz, so no way.
M8: Camera. And I hate all aluminium build too.
Z2: Self crackling body! Also screen to body ratio isn't really great!
G3: LG's UI is no better than TouchWiz, maybe slightly better but it's still awful. But fantastic design, and OIS!
And then there's the X 2014: Extremely over saturated display. Leather back has questionable durability I suppose (and when leather is available it's impossible to choose something else, for me at least). I am highly doubtful about the camera quality. 32 GB variant is still not available in my country and 16 GB without an SD card slot is unbelievable in 2014. But polished UI, and the overall UI experience is near Nexus level.
I played with the Moto X in a store for a while and came away unimpressed. Camera seems so so unless you force HDR on. Screen seems over saturated and no way to adjust like on Samsung. Build quality is nice for sure and software seems nice and stock. I really wanted to get this phone but the smaller battery, lesser camera makes it hard to switch. I also have a wireless charging back on my S5 so I'd loose that and I have wireless chargers everywhere around my house. I don't think I'd honestly use most of the Moto software either especially since my Moto 360 gives me glance able notifications already and remote voice when phone is off.
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Since you have had so many phones could you please compare the one-handed usage experience between the M8, S5, and the Moto X (2014)? How would you rank them in that aspect?
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The ergonomics of the Moto X 2014 for one handed use smoke the M8 and S5. Motorola spent some time holding this sucker because it's VERY natural one handed for me. I would put the M8 in second place because of the curved back, but the aluminum is slippery as hell and then the S5. The S5 doesn't slip in your hand, but doesn't feel as natural as the Moto X does. This is just my experience though. Everyone holds their phones differently. My wife texts on her Note 2 with her left thumb and right pointer finger and it makes me mental lol.
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devilsdouble said:
I have two questions for you, because you have used other phones, so you will be able to tell better, firstly, is the camera really improved from last year's X? And secondly how much Screen On time are you getting with normal usage?
I personally am looking for a phone to upgrade from my 2013 X, and I just can't find anything worthy!
S5: Great hardware, bearable design, brilliant display, very good camera, but TouchWiz, so no way.
M8: Camera. And I hate all aluminium build too.
Z2: Self crackling body! Also screen to body ratio isn't really great!
G3: LG's UI is no better than TouchWiz, maybe slightly better but it's still awful. But fantastic design, and OIS!
And then there's the X 2014: Extremely over saturated display. Leather back has questionable durability I suppose (and when leather is available it's impossible to choose something else, for me at least). I am highly doubtful about the camera quality. 32 GB variant is still not available in my country and 16 GB without an SD card slot is unbelievable in 2014. But polished UI, and the overall UI experience is near Nexus level.
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The camera is without a doubt better than last years Moto X and is fine for a pull out of your pocket shooter. It's perfectly fine for what I need it for and I own a restaurant and take a lot of pics of food for our social media. And I'm a bad person to ask about screen on time because I keep my screen on 100% 24/7 (I'm always near a charger). I haven't tested it consistently, but with heavy use I would say 3-4 hours screen on time and that's power using it.
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The ergonomics of the Moto X 2014 for one handed use smoke the M8 and S5. Motorola spent some time holding this sucker because it's VERY natural one handed for me. I would put the M8 in second place because of the curved back, but the aluminum is slippery as hell and then the S5. The S5 doesn't slip in your hand, but doesn't feel as natural as the Moto X does. This is just my experience though. Everyone holds their phones differently. My wife texts on her Note 2 with her left thumb and right pointer finger and it makes me mental lol.
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So if I could just barely reach the top left corner with my right hand on the S5, will it be easier to reach the same corner on the HTC One and even easier on the Moto X?
So through a whole of problems with the GS4, and a little stroke of luck, I happened upon a Moto X 2014. I must say, the phone is smooth as butter. But I still feel like something is missing. My battery isn't a great feet, my camera is poor at best. The phone however is the fastest and smoothest I've ever seen an android phone. It makes me melt. But after using the LG G2 which I had for 2 days before this....I miss it comparatively to this. Just as fast, much larger battery, beautiful screen. The Moto X doesn't even have a "power save" feature, and that would at lest be helpful. I almost want to wait for the Droid Turbo, but by then my 14 days would be up. I'm just not sure what to do. So my question to others.....Are you happy with this device? or would you switch, given the opportunity? If so, to what?
In happy, if the camera was better, I would be happier, but I'll hold out for L in hopes of improved camera performance. If not, I have another upgrade in April, maybe grab a turbo if it doesn't look as bad as it has in the leaked photos.
I'm think off going back the LG G2. The camera may be the breaking point for me.
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I don't take many pictures, but the ones I have taken have been fine. On par with a majority of the smart phones I have owned except a few that were above average. Most of them are just "meh" and any difference is still not great so I just don't let it get to me. If pictures were priority I would still be on the Lumia 930 hands down, or maybe the iPhone 6 plus, but not most of the Android handsets available that's for sure.
Overall I love the phone though. It just a great phone to use and really when it comes down to it that is what matters. There are things that could use improvement (screen brightness, camera, battery life). But none of those factors are BAD, just not exceptional. I get through a day with ease and the screen is fine except in bright sunlight. The phone makes up for it with a great feel and ease of use. Its super fast and fluid, and little things like ActiveDisplay just make it all that much better of an experience. Of all the phones I have owned in the last year (a lot) it is the first one I feel content with and not pining for a new phone (which is rare for me). I am excited for Android L .
I love my Moto X. I too came from a Galaxy S4 running CyanogenMOD and this is so smooth without having to do any tweaking whatsoever. I've had this phone for 11 days and I already try to wave my hand over other people's phones and expect it to just turn on when I pick it up. These may be new features I can't live without.
Short answer....best phone I have ever owned
I came from the HTC One, HTC One M8, and LG G3. Also had the Nexus 5 as my daily driver before leaving it for LG G3. ... This phone trumps them all (still use m8 for low light photos)
The bad......nothing really. The camera and battery are decent enough.....just nothing to brag on.
As far as performance....nothing is close. So smooth...so fast.....so fluid.
The phone screen looks amazing and the stereo headphone jack is provides the best sound I have heard outside of the HTCOne.
No phone is perfect.....but this phone came very close
I think it's too top heavy and not comfortable to hold. Maybe cuz I got leather and have a subconscious fear of scratching it or something. Ultimately, its fate w/me is doomed due to no root on verizon.
I'll give up the X if nexus comes out on verizon.
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I think it's too top heavy and not comfortable to hold. Maybe cuz I got leather and have a subconscious fear of scratching it or something. Ultimately, its fate w/me is doomed due to no root on verizon.
I'll give up the X if nexus comes out on verizon.
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This is the only downfall for me as well. I want gravitybox so bad. Just for the PIE controls so I can hide the nav bar. That extra screen real estate along with the one handed reachability would make this phone perfect for me.
I don't care about the camera quality, not a big deal for me. And the battery life is sufficient for me.
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So through a whole of problems with the GS4, and a little stroke of luck, I happened upon a Moto X 2014. I must say, the phone is smooth as butter. But I still feel like something is missing. My battery isn't a great feet, my camera is poor at best. The phone however is the fastest and smoothest I've ever seen an android phone. It makes me melt. But after using the LG G2 which I had for 2 days before this....I miss it comparatively to this. Just as fast, much larger battery, beautiful screen. The Moto X doesn't even have a "power save" feature, and that would at lest be helpful. I almost want to wait for the Droid Turbo, but by then my 14 days would be up. I'm just not sure what to do. So my question to others.....Are you happy with this device? or would you switch, given the opportunity? If so, to what?
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you'll be happy that L will bring this:
1. power saver built in
2. native code for camera stuff
3. project volt, which is supposed to help in battery
4. ...and much more
right now, there is nothing on the market that I want. so no, i would not switch. next year, maybe
after a week or so of using its okay. battery life sucks, i dont care about the camera, not sure why but many apps crash on it more than my nexus 5, and i can barely just barely see some hiccups/lag when navigating through the homescreen and some apps ill wait for android L tho
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after a week or so of using its okay. battery life sucks, i dont care about the camera, not sure why but many apps crash on it more than my nexus 5, and i can barely just barely see some hiccups/lag when navigating through the homescreen and some apps ill wait for android L tho
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Do you have ART enabled?
This phone is not top heavy, the center of its mass is right in the middle of the phone.
Just balance it on the index finger and you will see.
Best phone I used so far as well. But I never had any flagship devices before. Just a last years moto x, moto g, galaxy i9070... and an HTC one m8 as a phone for work, that's it.
But I saw many friends struggling with flagships while I was enjoying my moto x 2013.
I gave the HTC one m8 back to my boss and use the mx2013 now for my work and the mx2014 for private uses.
The mx2013 gave me an excellent experience, so I had no other choice than buying its successor.
BTW I hated the m8 even compared to the mx2013.
If Motorola doesn't **** it up, I'll buy their devices for a long time.
I could not be happier
Battery life could be bettet but ive yet to run out of it after a full day of work
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How do you enable ART and what does it change? I assume this is the ART vs dalvik thing?
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It's in developer options. Don't enable it. Several users have reported an increase in force closes.
It's a bigger, faster, smoother moto x. If you liked the 2013 x but wanted something bigger, this will make you happy.
I like it, originally I let all the negative reviews get to me and even went back to my nexus 5 for a day. Then I realized how much nicer the moto x is. Its a great well rounded device. Unlocked bootloader with full warranty in tact, good camera, decent battery life, fast updates, near aosp and other great specs. Oh, and every time I'm on the phone I can smell wonderful leather lol.
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I like it, originally I let all the negative reviews get to me and even went back to my nexus 5 for a day. Then I realized how much nicer the moto x is. Its a great well rounded device. Unlocked bootloader with full warranty in tact, good camera, decent battery life, fast updates, near aosp and other great specs. Oh, and every time I'm on the phone I can smell wonderful leather lol.
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Unlocking the boot loader on the pure edition does not void the warranty? I have heard it does not but not sure.
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Unlocking the boot loader on the pure edition does not void the warranty? I have heard it does not but not sure.
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That's what I read from the Motorola feedback network administrator, he said they are "treating the pure edition like the 2013 Dev edition."
I love it, but I am interested in seeing what the Turbo and Nexus 6 bring to table, especially since it'll be on VZW. That being said, jumping to 5.2" from 4.7" was noticeable, can't really imagine carrying around 5.96"...
Let the debate begin. Obviously these 3 devices will be the highest end you can buy.
As for me, I am completely torn between the 3 devices.
I am really upset that the Droid Turbo/Moto X Play will have better specs than the Nexus 6. (21mp camera, HUGE Battery)
Here are my thoughts.
Nexus 6
- Always will have latest version of Android
- 6 inch display is too damn big. (But will look very nice with 2k )
- Camera is nowhere near top of the line by today's standards.
- No removable battery or expandable storage
- Wireless charging!
- No IR blaster. (Sorry, this feature is awesome. Have you ever turned off a TV at the bar in the middle of the game?? )
- It's gorgeous
Moto X Play/Droid Turbo
- I would rather take 5.2 in display over 6 in
- Tablet sized batterry
- 21MP Camera!
- No guarantee it will always have latest version of Android
- Moto X Play will probably will take forever to come out after Droid Turbo because of Verizon exclusive. I want my new phone NOW
Note 4
- Great camera (Better than nexus 6)
- Replaceable battery and expandable storage
- IR Blaster
- It is also gorgeous
- Touchwiz has always, and will always suck.
- Flashing any AOSP/CM based rom will break a lot of the features. It will also degrade camera performance because of the new kernel
What y'all think?
I am only torn between 2. The moto x and the Nexus 6....I just can't stand touch wiz.
Really my only doubt is the size of the Nexus but it is a Nexus. Love my N5 and i still feel it has a lot of longevity but man oh man do I want that new hardware....
I'm torn with note 4 and nexus. I'm on verizon now and plan to move to t mobile. My fear with the turbo is major bloat and the inability to root and use recovery.
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I'm torn with note 4 and nexus. I'm on verizon now and plan to move to t mobile. My fear with the turbo is major bloat and the inability to root and use recovery.
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I am on Tmo. There should be a GSM variant of the Turbo coming out called the Moto X Play per an FCC filing.
I think it is safe to say that from a pure specs perspective, this phone is at the top.
Hmmm intriguing. Now I'm more confused and sad I have to wait. Haha
Its also worth noting that all of these moto phones coming out are still operating under Google ownership. This should be good thing with keeping the bloat to a minimum.
What is this Moto X Play thing, I never heard of that. As far as I understand the official name is Droid Turbo.
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Where did you even make this conclusion from? Have you actually used it or are you just basing it on Megapixel counts?
I have used the OnePlus before which use the Sony Exmor214 sensor, which is actually pretty high end. A lot of it will come down to post processing software. So we have to wait and see. Here is a 4K DCI example of the video recording using the same sensor as in the Nexus 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y4GvxAHFxU
I got some pretty high quality images from the OnePlus camera myself, even though it doesn't have the best post processing technology.
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What is this Moto X Play thing, I never heard of that. As far as I understand the official name is Droid Turbo.
Where did you even make this conclusion from? Have you actually used it or are you just basing it on Megapixel counts?
I have used the OnePlus before which use the Sony Exmor214 sensor, which is actually pretty high end. A lot of it will come down to post processing software. So we have to wait and see. Here is a 4K DCI example of the video recording using the same sensor as in the Nexus 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y4GvxAHFxU
I got some pretty high quality images from the OnePlus camera myself, even though it doesn't have the best post processing technology.
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Hey. Here is some info on the Moto X Play FCC filing.
I was under the impression that the Moto X and the Nexus 6 would have the same camera. From what I have seen in the review videos of the Moto X is that the camera is not good at all.
I will check out the sample you sent... should be interesting.
I'm torn between the nexus 6 and the moto x play. On the one hand the play (or whatever it will be called on Att and tmobile) has that awesome battery, super camera, more usable size. However it appears to lack LTE band 12 for the non vzw variant. That's a bummer because 700 mhz is awesome for building penetration and T-Mobile has bought a lot of it this year.
Nexus 6 has it plus a reasonable battery. I love my nexus 5 except for the battery could be 25% better.
One the size issue, I held an iPhone 6 plus the other day and it wasn't that bad. I could see myself getting used to it.
Note 4 is right out. Can't stand Samsung devices except for my galaxy nexus (still have).
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I have the note 3 and its tits, I'm getting the nexus 6. If I ever get annoyed, I can always go back to my note 3. Nexus 4 and 5 were a bore to me. I'm actually very boob excited for this nexus 6
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I'm torn between the nexus 6 and the moto x play. On the one hand the play (or whatever it will be called on Att and tmobile) has that awesome battery, super camera, more usable size. However it appears to lack LTE band 12 for the non vzw variant. That's a bummer because 700 mhz is awesome for building penetration and T-Mobile has bought a lot of it this year.
Nexus 6 has it plus a reasonable battery. I love my nexus 5 except for the battery could be 25% better.
One the size issue, I held an iPhone 6 plus the other day and it wasn't that bad. I could see myself getting used to it.
Note 4 is right out. Can't stand Samsung devices except for my galaxy nexus (still have).
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The Moto X Play seems badass in theory, but it's pretty much just vapor right now. If it is an AT&T exclusive, it will be locked down incredibly tight and there likely won't be much development going on for it. I'm sure it will get rooted, but Motorola's bootloaders are notoriously difficult to crack. If ROMing is your thing, then the Moto X Play probably won't be. I don't know if you've considered the regular Moto X but I would give it an honest shot too. You can pick up the Pure edition which is free of carrier bloat and has an unlockable bootloader essentially making it a 5.2" Nexus phone. It is hands down the nicest feeling Android phone I've ever held in my hands, and its performance is top notch.
As far as the iPhone 6 is concerned, it's a seriously awesome piece of hardware. I always have at least one Android device as well as an iPhone since I love multiple things about both platforms and can honestly say that with the 6, there is less of an itch to pick up my Android phone than ever before. I think Apple knocked it out of the park with this one and can recommend it wholeheartedly. If I was stuck on a deserted island and had to choose either Android or iOS to keep with me I'd still choose Android, but it would be a tougher decision to make and live with now that I have the 6.
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I'm on verizon. Sold my note 3 because I could not stand touchwiz. Bought the moto x it is a fantastic phone but I miss being able to play with phones like my galaxy nexus. Im buying the nexus 6 the instant it is available.
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The Moto X Play seems badass in theory, but it's pretty much just vapor right now. If it is an AT&T exclusive, it will be locked down incredibly tight and there likely won't be much development going on for it. I'm sure it will get rooted, but Motorola's bootloader safe notoriously difficult to crack.
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Agree with you there. I was hoping for a play edition of the x play.... Maybe it's a unicorn though.
I'll probably preorder the nexus 6 and see how it goes and if the battery isn't good enough and the magical moto comes out with pure android I'll grab that and try it.
Hopefully Motorola will do it like the did with the g and the new x.
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Agree with you there. I was hoping for a play edition of the x play.... Maybe it's a unicorn though.
I'll probably preorder the nexus 6 and see how it goes and if the battery isn't good enough and the magical moto comes out with pure android I'll grab that and try it.
Hopefully Motorola will do it like the did with the g and the new x.
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If and when it does come out, its software will be as close to stock as you can get without it being an official "pure android" device. Ditching Blur was the smartest thing Motorola did- they went from having the worst software to having the best software overnight. The additional software features that Motorola includes in their phones now actually make stock android better. Active display is the greatest thing in the world since man first discovered that oysters are edible.
Guys how would this compare to the Galaxy S5?
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Guys how would this compare to the Galaxy S5?
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It's not an essential upgrade of course, but this is XDA and usually most people upgrading here aren't doing it because they need to. From the Carphone Warehouse video, the camera is apparently almost as good as the Note 4's in daytime shots and slightly better in lowlight shots. So it should be comparable, if not a bit better, than the S5's. The Nexus 6 will certainly be a great deal bigger, so assess whether or not a big phone is for you (I'd test out an iPhone 6 Plus and a Note 4 and see if you think you can adjust). It's subjective, but I and many others vastly prefer stock Android over TouchWiz and that's always been a reason to buy a Nexus device for me. Take in mind you'll be giving up expandable storage and removable batteries. I'm not sure if that's important to you or not, though.
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Guys how would this compare to the Galaxy S5?
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As far as the iPhone 6 is concerned, it's a seriously awesome piece of hardware. I always have at least one Android device as well as an iPhone since I love multiple things about both platforms and can honestly say that with the 6, there is less of an itch to pick up my Android phone than ever before. I think Apple knocked it out of the park with this one and can recommend it wholeheartedly. If I was stuck on a deserted island and had to choose either Android or iOS to keep with me I'd still choose Android, but it would be a tougher decision to make and live with now that I have the 6.
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I'm specifically replying to agree with what you're saying about the iPhone 6. I've been using mine since launch (4.7", 128gb), and I almost hate how much I love it. The last time I tried out an iPhone was with the iPhone 5 and after three weeks I felt like I was being held back in functionality over Android and switched back to my original HTC One, sold the iPhone, and didn't look back. This time, though, I don't see myself doing that. I'm past the honeymoon phase and am still finding very few things to dislike. The screen, the camera, the battery life, the smoothness. It's all on point. I've been annoyed by a lack of customizability a couple times, but my lack of complaints in other areas allow it. This is the first device I've ever had that I don't believe has an Achilles heel. It's almost a shame that it's an iPhone, though. I'm hoping the Nexus 6 will be the Android equivalent.
I was torn between the Nexus 6 and the Xperia Z3, but after actually seeing the N6, that's what I'm going with!
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My opinion
Samsung is pleasing to the eye when it's not randomly rebooting/overheating and the biggest negative is TOUCHWIZ
Everything else other than Samsung is a plus
gregk232 said:
Hey. Here is some info on the Moto X Play FCC filing.
I was under the impression that the Moto X and the Nexus 6 would have the same camera. From what I have seen in the review videos of the Moto X is that the camera is not good at all.
I will check out the sample you sent... should be interesting.
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No the Nexus 6 has a newer/better camera hardware than the Moto X.
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@gregk232
My opinion
Samsung is pleasing to the eye when it's not randomly rebooting/overheating and the biggest negative is TOUCHWIZ
Everything else other than Samsung is a plus
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The only thing I like about Touchwiz, is the Messaging App and the Photo Gallery/Editing Options. Everything else is just way over the top.
The debate is pretty simply...do you wish to get an OS update before you sell the device?
If so...then Samsung is right off the list.
What's going to be the better phone?
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I was actually waiting for the N7, but grabbed this to test out for a little bit. If you compare the 2 devices, they are very similar. N7 is a touch bigger at 5.7, has the stylus and is waterproof. Obviously the Z has mods and is thinner. I really like the Z. It's built very well and I like the vanilla android experience much more than TouchWiz. Also, if the N7 has same OS battery drain as the S7e, I will shoot someone!! This battery is fantastic!! I think the N7 shooter will probably be a little better, but the Zs camera is pretty darn good. I may just keep the Z over the N7. But I need to see a ton more mods if that's the case.
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Can you comment more on battery? I had note 5 and s7 and I couldn't stand the random battery drain
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I would say Force. I have the s7 edge seems s7 will be a larger one. It really is personal taste. Grab one and see when it comes out. I found so. E lag still on my edge so far no lag and beautiful screen.
For me the Force is just SOLID.
I have been using Samsungs for the past few years and was going to wait for the Note 7 but the Z Force got me. Battery drain on Samsungs are a joke...and even Samsung couldn't tell me why. My wife's Note 4 would get twice the SOT as me and we got ours at the same time.
I like the big screen of the Note but never really used the SPEN.
Don't get a Samsung Note.
As an owner of two Samsung Galaxy Note 5 devices - they are of suspect quality. Not to mention an exploding battery on my prior Galaxy S4 and a max of 3 metres wifi on my S3... The Note 5 has terrible battery life, even once debloated and rooted with custom kernels - in comparison to my old LG G2. (not to mention it's laggy compared to than that phone)
After having my 2nd N5 in my pocket while traveling to the states, two purple dots appeared and have almost entirely consumed the screen after a couple of days. The terrible customer support in the states won't even fix it as it was not purchased in the US - no **** I'm on holiday Samsung. >_>" These Samsung devices have caused me nothing but grief.
LG and Motorola on the other hand sell much better devices in my opinion.
I have a N7 and a Z Force and short story. N7 is for sale on craigslist.
N7 is slower. Noticeably slower. I get better battery life on the z force and it charges faster.
All and all Moto z is a superior phone. Now the nay Sayers will chime in with this on how its better.
S pen. Screw the s pen
Retina scanner. It sucks and it is a gimmick. Its not secure you can trick it with a proper image. And it takes longer
to unlock. Its a step back from a fingerprint.
Better Camera. Z's camera is just as good you just need to have a steady hand and know how to use the manual controls.
Feels good in the hand. And it does. But that glass scratches almost as easy as the plastic screen on the z. Same goes with the back. It will need a case and a screen protector on it from day one or it will be scratched to high hell.
Water proof. Well i dont use my phone as a fishing lure. And moto's have the water repelling nano coating so im guess it will do just as good when you get the accidental dunk in water.
The N7 is a nice phone. But it fails to bring anything new and exciting. It fails in holding up under normal use. The coating on the screen is very thin and scratches way to easy. Battery life is bad and if you want to use the always on display well my N7 will suck up around 8% of the battery on that. They should of did it like moto's
The note is what it is now. And thats basically an iphone. Its hip and trendy but is stale and has no real innovation. Nothing to wow anyone. Fan boys will defend it to the end saying its so smooth. No its a laggy turd that requires nova launcher and settings changed just to make it smooth. And my N7 was not installing any apps either its touchwiz. Not as bad as before but still laggy and it will never not be laggy.
Want a phone that people will know what it is and say uhhhhh ahhhh he has a note 7. Then go note 7. Want a s pen go note 7. Want a phone thats a improvement over a s7 edge go note 7. Its a s7 edge refinement. But if you want a phone that has a future go Moto z. You want a phone with shock and aww go moto z and slap on a projector mod. Want a phone that you can change to your needs go moto z. Want a phone that gets great battery life and charges at 6amps. go moto z.
Moto z has a future with moto mods. The note 7 what you buy now is what you get. It will never be better. But in a year who knows. With your moto z you might be able to pick up a mod that offers 2 more sd card slots that raids them. Or pick up a mod that allows you to use a m.2 or msata ssd. Maybe a rear eink display. With the z out of the box you get the smoothest fastest android phone out. But you also get a future for your phone with mods. Who knows what can come out but there can be some amazing mods that can transform the z. Maybe a solar panel mod that offers a thin mod that gives you a little trickle charge for the days you do not need a battery mod. Need better wifi? How about a high gain wifi adapter. Thats what makes the z exciting you have something to look forward to.
I had a mod dev kit here. Im working on a mod right now. "i work with electronics" Still getting a feeling for it. But The mod im working on will house a SD or Micro SD card. Have a usb type c port and battery. This will let me transfer files from my phone to my pc using the mod like a portable harddrive. It will also let me toss in another 250gig sd in it and get some battery life. After i finish this then i will see about putting in some stand alone wifi for wireless transfers that will use the mods battery to power it. I can see why people are not really excited about the mods. They just see what are already made. But working with electronics i see the dev kit and i flip out at having phone with a perforated board so i can start prototyping circuits.
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Actually it's not.
I did some testing and the Z Force has better saturation and marginally better detail zoomed in. Seeing all the the S7 vs Moto Z comparisons I thought the N7 would blow the Z Force away.
The choice in phones comes down to preference. I dislike Samsung but the N7 is a pretty good phone. Every feature they could cram in there is in there too. That makes is slightly slower than the Z Force.
This is actually the first time I've had a device beat my wife's in benchmark testing. The Note 3 actually tested better than my LG G4!
I was going to check out the Samsung phones, but I had the original Moto X and I just love the Moto software.. close to stock but with the nice touches like the Moto Display and the gestures (with young-ish kids, the twist to get to the camera is a godsend). I've heard mixed reviews on the Samsung flavor of Android and in the end, I just decided that I just needed to get the Z Force in my hand to make sure I didn't totally hate the feel, and I didn't.
bignazpwns said:
Water proof. Well i dont use my phone as a fishing lure. And moto's have the water repelling nano coating so im guess it will do just as good when you get the accidental dunk in water.
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My daughter killed her 1st gen moto x with the nano coating with a dunk in the toilet. I would say the motos are light rain resistant, probably.
Based on everything I've read, I made the jump from Samsung Fan Boy to the Moto Z Force TODAY! I believe I'll be happy.... after I make the necessary adjustments!
beejmeister said:
Based on everything I've read, I made the jump from Samsung Fan Boy to the Moto Z Force TODAY! I believe I'll be happy.... after I make the necessary adjustments!
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Love my z,.The projector is the shizznit..Speaker is good..Great to know all the mods can get software updates too..Hope for more mods other than a camera mod...Just don't use camera at all..I've gotta get used to no root and Roms ,
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