[Q] Is there a method to increase internal storage (PIT file etc.)?
Hi,
I'm going to buy a Note 4 SM-910F, and I have some concerns about internal storage that runs low with many apps installed, even on relatively new phones like Galaxy S5 (16 GB internal storage). I know that Note 4 has at least 32 GB, but have any of you had a problem with insufficient storage, with let's say 100-150 apps installed? If so, is there a way to increase internal storage, like we could with the old Galaxy S2, for example flashing PIT file to repartition? Or we are just left with installing apps on SD card which will slow down their launch time?
Cheers.
I'm assuming that all Note 4 variants have 32GB internal storage. I have 167 apps installed on my phone, plus all the bloatware from ATT and Samsung.i can easily installanotger 150+ apps. I used to have an S2 and from what I remember, it had a partition set aside for app storage, which was relatively easy to fill up, but once you did, you'd still have room for files like music, etc.
Later Android versions changed how data was partitioned so that your personal files and app storage are now shared. So the Note 4 has plenty of app room, plus there is a built in feature that can transfer apps to external SD... if you ever need to.
Simply put, you have to be concerned about.
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Didn't know about the changes in newer Android versions. Thank you for your comprehensive answer
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I searched and have been trying to move files to external sdcard from the Internal storage on my galaxy Note 10.1. I came across on the google play a file manager called File Manager HD (Tablet ) I have successfuly transferred files from internal to ext sdcard without any issues, reason i have been trying cause i have the 16 gb version and was also concerned about space now i wont have to. Hopefully this will help you if you are:worried about your internal storage. nI prefer the White than the Grey
The 16 gb space limitation really is only a problem for people who want lots of big games on their tablets. I have about 200 or so apps on my tablet and have barely used any space at all. I keep all my media files and backups on the external SDCard.
I have a12 foot HD projection screen at home hooked to my computer. After youve played Dirt 3 Racing on a 12 foot HD screen anything on a tablet just seems silly. Luckily this means 16 gb is more than i'll ever need
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nnjwy said:
I searched and have been trying to move files to external sdcard from the Internal storage on my galaxy Note 10.1. I came across on the google play a file manager called File Manager HD (Tablet ) I have successfuly transferred files from internal to ext sdcard without any issues, reason i have been trying cause i have the 16 gb version and was also concerned about space now i wont have to. Hopefully this will help you if you are:worried about your internal storage. nI prefer the White than the Grey
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I did that with the My Files app that's included...
mitchellvii said:
The 16 gb space limitation really is only a problem for people who want lots of big games on their tablets. I have about 200 or so apps on my tablet and have barely used any space at all. I keep all my media files and backups on the external SDCard.
I have a12 foot HD projection screen at home hooked to my computer. After youve played Dirt 3 Racing on a 12 foot HD screen anything on a tablet just seems silly. Luckily this means 16 gb is more than i'll ever need
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Yep and thd gamers can use App 2 SD and GL to SD to move the massive downloaded portions of the games to external storage. Saved me a ton of space.
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Hi all. I am thinking of moving from my S2 to an S4. Before I do, I want to be sure there is enough space for my apps. I have around 140 apps. At one point, I was getting messages from the S2 saying I was running out of storage space for them. Thanks the the great folks on the XDA S2 forum, I learned how to remap the PIT file and expand my app storage from 2gb to 4gb via Odin and some a custom PIT file one of the members made. So before I take the plunge on the S4, I have a couple of questions: 1) will the stock 2gb be enough for all my apps, plus new ones - in other words, does it handle apps differently than the S2, and 2) if not, are there larger PIT files available for the S4 and instructions here on how to flash them?
236 user installed aps and I still have around 4.3 gb free... on top of that, I have 205 system aps (cleaned bloatware too)... I have performed 4Gb pit repartition on my old S2, but on S4 with 16GB internal storage I don't need pit repartition anymore if such exists (default S4 storage management is doing the job just fine).
Edit: S4 does not have 2GB of internal storage, but 16GB total - around 12-13GB user free if I recall well, it has 2GB of RAM though.
Hope this helps.
Fevves said:
236 user installed aps and I still have around 4.3 gb free... on top of that, I have 205 system aps (cleaned bloatware too)... I have performed 4Gb pit repartition on my old S2, but on S4 with 16GB internal storage I don't need pit repartition anymore if such exists (default S4 storage management is doing the job just fine).
Edit: S4 does not have 2GB of internal storage, but 16GB total - around 12-13GB user free if I recall well, it has 2GB of RAM though.
Hope this helps.
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That's the kind of answer I was looking for. :good::good:
It seems, then, that the S4 is organized better than the S2.
corvus.corax said:
That's the kind of answer I was looking for. :good::good:
It seems, then, that the S4 is organized better than the S2.
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Sure it is, S2 was having an old partition system and a way to handle things which was limiting the user. It's all gone for better afterwards and S4 is no exception from this benefit Just flood yours with apps/games, do occasional trimming and you're good. 16GB version can handle great quantities of apps/games.
Edit: I pulled some backups for few other apps, and I'm still having much internal space left.
Have fun!
When I had a Samsung 10.1 tablet I was able to modify vfstab via init.d to allow me to swap internal memory with the sdcard. This allowed me to realise more available memory than the default 16Gb, albeit with a slight but acceptable performance hit. Try as I might I cannot achieve the same time on my S5.
Can I ask if anyone has looked into this or at best achieved a memory to SD card swap?
Thx
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Also looking to swap internal to external SD... Anyone tried it?
It is true? Google said that right? Nexus devices, Moto X & G has'nt slots, well, some people says that is due to Google wanting to sell Google Drive storage, but Moto X & G comes with free 50GB storage(i never owned a Nexus and dont know if they give free storage for Nexus) , and i guess that 66GB is pretty good for a phone. What do you think about it?
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Sort of true, if only in that if you compared two otherwise identical phones, one with 32GB internal and one with 16GB internal plus 16GB microSD, the second would be fractionally slower in booting up, and fractionally slower in accessing files stored on the external SD.
Access to files in the cloud will be slower than either of the above.
I have experience with 3 devices:
1. LG Optimus One, which had 170MB internal memory, so everything was on SD Card. It booted fast, but then I had to wait 2 minutes for SD apps to appear and then a few more seconds for the SD to be fully usable.
2. Galaxy S3 mini, which had 8 GB internal storage + 8GB SD card. It booted fast, all apps useful, but it lagged until the SD was mounted and any apps loaded before had horrible crashes, or redraws, you just had to wait like 30 seconds for the SD to mount and 10 more to be usable.
3. Moto G. No SD, it boots, it works.
Depending on the device and memory used, the SD might be boosting (it did on the P500), but it slowed down my S3 mini, and I only had my music on it.
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Self explanatory title (note I'm asking "sufficient", not "enough")
How are you guys finding the onboard storage situation w/ your 32GB models? I'm unclear how much use the SDcard would be. Sure, you can point your camera + Spotify cache to the SDcard instead but just looking at my iphone 6, I would still have need another 17-18GB to cover other apps and their data (this is w/o a silly amount of games). I know you can move some apps from onboard storage to your SDcard, how do you find the performance difference?
A bit bummed over SG's seemingly shortsighted decision to limit most global markets to the 32GB variant. From what I've seen online and with a few demo units, actual free usable storage comes in around 14-16GB, which is fairly pitiful. If Android "only" uses 8GB, where's the extra? Is TW and other add in that large?
I ordered a microsd card with high read/write speed. And the phone is pushing pretty near the card's theoretical limit. Benchmark have it at around 94MB/S read, and 47MB/S write, with a theoretical limit of 97 read 57 write on the card.
Key here is not to order a microsd card with extremely slow write, some of the popular sandisk models out there have 80 read, but only around 16-18 write, and that can be painful sometimes.
Is microsd slower than the new generation samsung internal storage? Yes, because the new samsung internal storage is reading at around 300MB/S. However, if you came from any phone that's not a samsung S6, S6 edge, or note 5, the microsd card read/write speed is probably similar enough to what you are used to as your old device's internal storage speed, and I honestly can't tell the difference since most apps stay loaded in the RAM anyways. I'm also surprised to find that I can move most of my installed apps to my microsd, the only one I have issue with right now is Grand Theft Auto Sand Andreas which is taking up over 2.2GB of internal space.
I had a note 5 before this, and with the 32GB internal on that, I was only left with around 2GB free. Right now I'm at 15GB free on the S7E with the exact same amount of photo/music/apps installed, granted I might have a smaller cache as of now but you get the idea.
To be honest, it's borderline for me. I'm 13.4gb free. I'm OCD about being anywhere below 10gb free. 64gb or enabling adoptable storage would have been better.
With the Gear VR ........ The Oculus app and the apps within Oculus can't be moved to the external SD storage. No option. And if you load any 360, 3D, or regular videos, they must be placed on internal storage for the app to locate them. I keep my 360 VR videos on my SD card, then from the file manager I copy what I want into the phone's storage, then delete the copies after I'm done using the Gear VR. Repeat and Rinse.
Not all games transfer data properly. I don't know if it's a Marshmallow, TouchWiz, or Developer Issue. Basically Need For Speed games (Most Wanted & No Limits) and Asphalt 8 Airborne are the ones I had problems with. It would allow the option to move to external storage and would state that it moved all the data too. But it didn't. It creates a replica data folder on the external storage, but without any data in it. The original folder on the internal storage is still there with all the data. I tried many things like moving the data manually to the correct folder, and deleting the original, but the games just ask to download data again which appears back in the internal storage. Those are the only games I tried to move so far, and I'm thinking maybe the games that download extra data after initially starting up are the issue. I doubt any issue would arise from smaller games like Minion Rush or Subway Surfers, but those are the games you don't need to move.
EDIT: So I found out the Milk VR app can see video on my SD Card. So far it's the only app in the Gear VR that seems to do so.
Yes. 32gb is extremely sufficient. Especially when you have SD card support.
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not sure why this topic always comes up and people are asking other people if they have enough space, it depends on your usage, not of others i'm coming from a nexus 5 with 16GB (~12GB usable) without sdcard option that i've used for the past 2,5 years and it was enough for me. although i must admit that i had to shuffle things around sometimes (e.g. move older pictures to my NAS), hence looking forward to the 32GB
im1knight said:
I ordered a microsd card with high read/write speed. And the phone is pushing pretty near the card's theoretical limit. Benchmark have it at around 94MB/S read, and 47MB/S write, with a theoretical limit of 97 read 57 write on the card.
Key here is not to order a microsd card with extremely slow write, some of the popular sandisk models out there have 80 read, but only around 16-18 write, and that can be painful sometimes.
Is microsd slower than the new generation samsung internal storage? Yes, because the new samsung internal storage is reading at around 300MB/S. However, if you came from any phone that's not a samsung S6, S6 edge, or note 5, the microsd card read/write speed is probably similar enough to what you are used to as your old device's internal storage speed, and I honestly can't tell the difference since most apps stay loaded in the RAM anyways. I'm also surprised to find that I can move most of my installed apps to my microsd, the only one I have issue with right now is Grand Theft Auto Sand Andreas which is taking up over 2.2GB of internal space.
I had a note 5 before this, and with the 32GB internal on that, I was only left with around 2GB free. Right now I'm at 15GB free on the S7E with the exact same amount of photo/music/apps installed, granted I might have a smaller cache as of now but you get the idea.
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what SDcard are you using?
Quite pleased it has come up not being able to use gear vr with the SD card is very bad
ngmic said:
what SDcard are you using?
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PNY turbo, 64GB