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[Q] Convince me to buy the 16GB version

I see everyone saying they'll get the 16GB and even complaining that's not enough for them. Here's the thing. I'm a pretty tidy person when it comes to memory. I only keep in my phone the music that I know I'll be listening, not my whole collection (1GB max). When I take photos, I either delete them whenever I go across them or if I want to keep them I send them to my dropbox. Same for videos. I'm that kind of person that if he sees his gallery is becoming big, will save the few photos and videos that are really important and delete the other 200 without heasisating. I might play one of these big hd games, but I'll install it, play it and uninstall it afterwards. Last but not least, when it comes to movies or series that I plan to see on my phone, I download them on the PC, transfer them to the phone and delete them as soon as I've seen them.
So, right now I'm using a galaxy S with an external 8gb micro sd. That's a total of 16GB, and I'm using 6GB after some time of not cleaning. Normally it's 4-5GB.
My logic is, if I get the 8GB model and use an external pendrive and usb OTG for the movies/series, wouldn't it be enough? 50€ is a big deal for me

You've talked yourself into it and, going from what you've said, I'd agree with you. I'm gonna get the 16GB version cause I can not because I need to

When 8GB prevents you from doing something you really want to do, that $50 won't be as big a deal then. But seriously, I think that the 16GB model will even have better resell when it comes time to upgrade as most people prefer the larger storage as evidenced by this forum. Everybody's needs and wants are different, but as for me, I'm not even hesistating, it's 16GB for me.
Here is my breakdown:
Sygic GPS - 4.5GB storage space (maps stored locally on the device)
Pictures - around 3GB
Nandroid backups - I have usually 1-2 on my phone which usually means 1-2GB
This usually results in about 3-4GB of storage space to play with for me....

See, I do backups but I don't store them on my phone (sounds a bit stupid if you ask me), and I always use the maps navigation for gps. The reselling argument seems like a good point though.

The thing you need to keep in mind is that that 8 or 16GB is your total storage for the device. the 8GB Nexus 7 has 5.92GB of free space with no apps installed (except the system ones that come with it, obviously). And, if I remember correctly, the Galaxy S has 1GB of application storage in addition. With the Nexus 4, every application you install, even if it doesn't have to download additional files to the "sdcard", will be eating into that 5.92GB of storage you have.

^This! Will definitely get 16gb!!

Use the cloud and Google music. If your using Tmo get unlimited data and you will be fine streaming on hspa 42
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hallucynogenyc said:
I see everyone saying they'll get the 16GB and even complaining that's not enough for them. Here's the thing. I'm a pretty tidy person when it comes to memory. I only keep in my phone the music that I know I'll be listening, not my whole collection (1GB max). When I take photos, I either delete them whenever I go across them or if I want to keep them I send them to my dropbox. Same for videos. I'm that kind of person that if he sees his gallery is becoming big, will save the few photos and videos that are really important and delete the other 200 without heasisating. I might play one of these big hd games, but I'll install it, play it and uninstall it afterwards. Last but not least, when it comes to movies or series that I plan to see on my phone, I download them on the PC, transfer them to the phone and delete them as soon as I've seen them.
So, right now I'm using a galaxy S with an external 8gb micro sd. That's a total of 16GB, and I'm using 6GB after some time of not cleaning. Normally it's 4-5GB.
My logic is, if I get the 8GB model and use an external pendrive and usb OTG for the movies/series, wouldn't it be enough? 50€ is a big deal for me
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Buy 8 GB version
And I was thinking that if I do not get memory sometimes can get a USB OTG and resolve. Rather than give so much money, better give one dollar for such a cable.
And who knows? Usually use the most how much memory you have. Those who will buy the 16 GB version I bet from her to him and USB OTG.
So there's no point to invest so for 8 GB.
Now Nexus 7 16GB is $ 200 .. perfect for everyone!
If you want more put something nice to sit wi-fi, 3G and 32 GB!

This about the real space available being around 5.7GB bugs me really hard now. Thinking that the amazing new phone I'm gonna get has less space than I'm using at this very moment doesn't sound right. Guess I'll go for the 16GB. Better regret something I did than something I didn't do.

I also think I can manage 8gb (not even coming close to using it up on my current phone, thouh lately I havent been using it that much as a smart phone), but I think I will get the 16gb. One of the main reason why is that I plan on having the phone for a while. I think this is a significant point, since while I'd currently be able to manage with the 6gb (don't count on more than 8) my usage might change (ex. I mihgt have some heavy games installed), and I'd probably want to have at least a gb free (so that'd leave 5 gb) for just in case situations, ex for making a nandroid, or shooting a 30-second-turned-15-minute HD video, or to try out a new very big game, or to download a new distro I want to try out and dd it to a usb (via otg,ofc) using my phone because I'm feeling lazy and dont want to get up and the usb and cable were right next to me (I am joking, but I have done this, though, on a tablet but similar situation).
This brings me to something else that might pop up in the future and that could use up space (though, if it does come, it may be possible to put it onto a usb, or they may immediately ship the software in a dock, psst, don't tell canonical, I want to profit of off this idea ); ubuntu for android (or something similar). Seeing as how canonical ported/is porting (native) ubuntu to the nexus 7 I think there is a chance they might port ubuntu for android to the nexus 4, especially if it sells a lot, which we all know it will. Oh, yeah. Don't mix up Ubuntu on the nexus 7 (if you already heard about it, or google it) with ubuntu for android (the former replaces android, the latter supplements it). While I'm not a fan of Ubuntu, and I probably wouldn't use it that much, the geeky coolness of it would definitely overrule the practical usage of space but thats just me, you might find it useful, or not have it at all.

just buy the 8gb version, that 299 price tag looks damn sexy

From my other post:
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Today I did an excercise with my LG G2x to see if 8Gb will be enough:
Here is my current setup:
1) Internal storage: 1.48GB (788 MB used, it has OS and sys apps)
2) Internal SD card: 5.22GB (4GB used)
3) SDCard: 32GB (12GB used)
The goal of this experiment was to see if I can do without 32GB sd card as I will have about the same storage space as 8gb N4.
1.48 + 5.22 = 6.7Gb
And N4 has 7.45GB (Not 8GB, as 8GB is in decimal system which equates to 7.45GB)
8,000,000,000 / (1024 x 1024 x 1024) = 7.45Gb
Anyways, assuming N4 will be left with 5.92GB after OS and System apps (people from N7 8Gb have this much available).
I deleted all possible crap from the Internal SD card (#2) but the "Android" folder was huge, over a gb. Plus there were tons of other folders created by apps equating to 600 mb.
Mind you I dont have much useful stuff in my 32gb sd card. So I moved my camera pictures and music to Internal SD card and moved backups to 32gb SD card.
So now I could barely fit everything in my Internal SDcard: its 5.11GB full. With no crap: Only has Music, camera taken pics and 700mb of videos and ofcourse "data" from android and app data.
So if I add 788MB from the Internal storage (from #1) which has OS I will be at 5.8 GB
That leaves me with 100 mb in my brand new N4 for taking what 50 pics? Maybe? Or 25 Photosphers?
For those interested: I am running clean lean CM7 with 32 apps, 2 of which are games.
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hallucynogenyc said:
See, I do backups but I don't store them on my phone (sounds a bit stupid if you ask me), and I always use the maps navigation for gps. The reselling argument seems like a good point though.
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Lucky guy to be in an area that lets you use maps over the air. I could not manage on google alone, and use Sygic.

Are 16GB enough for you?

I've a Nexus 7 3G/32GB that I'm selling and I've just ordered a Gt-n5100 but I'm very scared about hdd capacity. Note 8 is only available in my country in 16GB format so I had no choice but since all apps are installed in primary memory and not on SD card now I'm asking to myself if I did a good buy. What can you tell me about this? Are 16gb enough for you? I changed my previous nexus 7 16gb (poor memory) for the 32gb version and it's true that they haven't SD expansion slot.. Do you think SD could solve the problem in any way?
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I came from a Nexus 7 32gb, via a Note 10.1.
Unless you are a hard-core gamer then the 16gb is plenty sui long as you supplement with a micro sd card on which to store your media files etc.
The Note 8.0 is definitely the better device by a good measure, congratulations I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
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Having the microsd slot helps a lot. I have a DROID dna with only 16gb and I wish it had more. Games and media take the most space on a device. Media can easily be store on the microsd.
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16 GB is more than enough for me. I really only use the tablet for the note taking function. But even my 16 GB Galaxy S4 with a large medical library downloaded to the device, still leaves me with like 4 GB free. And I have all of my music stored on the main memory. If you move all of your personal data to SD, I don't see how you can run out of space on the main memory, using it just for apps and app data.

sputnik767 said:
16 GB is more than enough for me. I really only use the tablet for the note taking function. But even my 16 GB Galaxy S4 with a large medical library downloaded to the device, still leaves me with like 4 GB free. And I have all of my music stored on the main memory. If you move all of your personal data to SD, I don't see how you can run out of space on the main memory, using it just for apps and app data.
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16 gb is to little for me to store my music and movies. But hey this is Samsung you have sd card slot

I hope that you are aware The advertised 16 GB is not the actual available capacity.
The fact is that on Galaxy Note 8 you will get around 9 GB for personal storage only on internal SD card as factory default (rest consumed by the default apps etc).
I had to add a 64GB MicroSd card (almost full already) and that gives me some room for stuff.
All depends on your usage but if you need space frequently , you cannot go wrong with an additional 32 GB micro SD card.
btw this tablet should also support the MicroUSB flash drives. so I would not worry much as this has room for expansion if need ever comes to that.

intelliriffer said:
I hope that you are aware The advertised 16 GB is not the actual available capacity.
The fact is that on Galaxy Note 8 you will get around 9 GB for personal storage only on internal SD card as factory default (rest consumed by the default apps etc).
I had to add a 64GB MicroSd card (almost full already) and that gives me some room for stuff.
All depends on your usage but if you need space frequently , you cannot go wrong with an additional 32 GB micro SD card.
btw this tablet should also support the MicroUSB flash drives. so I would not worry much as this has room for expansion if need ever comes to that.
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On my AT&T LTE Note 8 with 16GB internal memory I find that after loading all of my apps (76) and with the Samsung and AT&T apps and the operating system and TouchWiz I have 9.2GB free internal memory. This agrees with your findings.

No. 16g is not enough. Real dopey amount of storage for a tablet like this.
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You cannot just say 16 gbs isn't enough. it's very subjective. On both my phone and tablet, even 8 gbs would've been enough for me. I don't play games or store moves/music. I use Slacker, Netflix and read news/magazines.

aerok said:
You cannot just say 16 gbs isn't enough. it's very subjective. On both my phone and tablet, even 8 gbs would've been enough for me. I don't play games or store moves/music. I use Slacker, Netflix and read news/magazines.
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agree completely; I put a 32 gig external sd card to store music, movies, and pix...I have over 100 apps on here, and still have 4.5 gigs of main memory space available..
plenty of room IMO...

The issue here is games. Clearly Samsung aren't factoring in gamers to their target market for this tablet. The gpu - the Mali 400 is evidence of that. The minimal amount of internal storage also shows Samsung don't expect N8.0 users to install more than 2 or 3 triple A titles at most.
'The Bard's Tale' alone is 3.5GB. 'Horn' is 2.7GB. 'Max Payne Mobile' is 1.4GB.
Bam, there's all your space gone, with hardly anything left for productivity apps.

no offense, but I doubt that any tablet is marketed specifically for gamers; they are more for business professionals/email/magazine/web surfers...
Hard core gamers use consoles or gaming pc's generally, and those folks dont think of tablets as effective hardware for them..

If we actually had 16GB it might be enough. On first power up you only have like 9GB to use...kind of false advertising.
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the OS and cache have to go somewhere, dont they?

wase4711 said:
the OS and cache have to go somewhere, dont they?
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So factor that into the design so that when you advertise a 16GB storage device people actually GET 16GB off storage. I think there is already a class action lawsuit against Samsung for the S4 due to this issue.
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as you well know, EVERY device/tablet/laptop/pc maker pretty much says the same kind of thing when it comes to advertising the "size" of their machine; you know that a 2 TB computer never really has 2TB of "available space" on it, since the os/swapfile etc has to go somewhere, and this is how electronics have been sold for a long long time.
I'm not saying I dont agree with you, but I dont see this kind of "unrealistic" advertising od device space/capacity changing any time soon..

wase4711 said:
as you well know, EVERY device/tablet/laptop/pc maker pretty much says the same kind of thing when it comes to advertising the "size" of their machine; you know that a 2 TB computer never really has 2TB of "available space" on it, since the os/swapfile etc has to go somewhere, and this is how electronics have been sold for a long long time.
I'm not saying I dont agree with you, but I dont see this kind of "unrealistic" advertising od device space/capacity changing any time soon..
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Well, if the class action lawsuit does enough damage and more start being held to task, it might change. I also get what you are saying, but the criticism of Samsung right now is that it's not just 1-2GB out of 16GB...it's almost half. In other words, it is unreasonable and excessive in it's advertising. So as much as I've been a Samsung supporter over the years, I hope they get beat pretty bad and start to change this negative pattern.

wase4711 said:
the OS and cache have to go somewhere, dont they?
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if it's like the s4 then it's got a reserved 6GB partition (at least i read that somewhere). so they should advertise the useable space and the amount of memory shared for the video.
why they don't let you do a fresh install like any pc is beyond me. tablets have come too far to be still treated as less than a computer.
i'm still on the fence about getting the 8. i keep adding it to cart at amazon and then closing the tab. i almost got it at walmart after seeing the box and falling in love!

there's alot to love with this tablet..nobody who has seen one or bought one has anything bad to say about it...

I would like to see the Apps2SD stuff come from the Galaxy S4 or a setting to use the card in place of the internal data mounted as the sd card but yes, it is enough for me.
I would have bought a 64GB or 32GB model if possible but as games are the only big local data I have - I could use the card or a usb drive if I needed to have offline access to movies and music and such. Everything but games lives on my local server or in a cloud service; often both. So I can live with the storage.
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SD Card Slot speeds

With black friday coming up, I'm looking for a large micro SD card. My main debate is through speed. I want the 128GB Sandisk microSD card, but it's capped to 30MB/s sequential reads, while the 64GB extreme goes up to 80MB/s. Can the tablet take advantage of those higher speeds? I want as little a difference between the internal memory and the external memory as possible. My only concern is 64GB may not be enough, as I download a metric ton of games, and I'm blowing through the internal memory. Basically, I'm asking for buying advice, and this is all very specific to the shield tablet. I have no other intended uses for the SD card.

I have a Samsung 64gb PRO up to 90mb/s and this is the result

Is that what the shield tablet is actually able to write at? If so, then it's worth it for the increased data loading in my games. That's my main concern. Also, how efficient is app2SD type transferring? I want to know if my SD card will be used effectively, or if I will still end up running out of storage space.

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With black friday coming up, I'm looking for a large micro SD card. My main debate is through speed. I want the 128GB Sandisk microSD card, but it's capped to 30MB/s sequential reads, while the 64GB extreme goes up to 80MB/s. Can the tablet take advantage of those higher speeds? I want as little a difference between the internal memory and the external memory as possible. My only concern is 64GB may not be enough, as I download a metric ton of games, and I'm blowing through the internal memory. Basically, I'm asking for buying advice, and this is all very specific to the shield tablet. I have no other intended uses for the SD card.
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There's a new version of the 128gb that rated 48mb/s. But if you want faster card you can only get them in 64gb. Like the Samsung pro at 90mb/s.

aznmode said:
There's a new version of the 128gb that rated 48mb/s. But if you want faster card you can only get them in 64gb. Like the Samsung pro at 90mb/s.
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I'm afraid to ask how much this new 128GB model is. I can't justify spending $200 on a micro SD solely for tablet storage.

Nintonito said:
I'm afraid to ask how much this new 128GB model is. I can't justify spending $200 on a micro SD solely for tablet storage.
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I got one for my note 4 at $109. Might find good deals on black Friday
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Memor...416866651&sr=1-1&keywords=128gb+micro+sd+card

Unfortunately this isn't available yet in canada

Mine is a Samsung 64gb UHS-1 pro, formatted with NTFS and 64gb cluster size:

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Unfortunately this isn't available yet in canada
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I see. But I think even at 48mp/s, it's not gonna be the same as internal. If you want something close then the Samsung Pro 64gb with 90mb/s is your best bet. But you are only going to match the read speed. The internal memory's write speed is still faster by 2x. But I really doubt you're going to care about that much if you're just transferring 1-2gb of data to the sdcard. And I'm assuming these are game data? Once those are transferred, it's pretty much done with. Even with my 64gb card now with 11.73 mb/s write speed is plenty fast when I move files to the card. If there are game saves that needs to write to the card, they are gonna be small data. I have about 20 game data on the SD card using Folder Mount and I don't find any issue launching them. The only one that I noticed takes longer is Half Life.

Yeah that definitely sounds good. Faster the better. I want a seamless experience.

Does anyone have experience with PNY sd cards? I saw one for $110 that's a 128GB card with 40MB/s sequential read speeds. How would the card perform, ans would it be enough?

Personally I don't think the extra speed will make that big of a difference. Those benchmarks provide controlled and consistent circumstances which are not realistic. Almost nothing you do on the tablet in normal use will push the read speeds. Tbh write speeds could be more important, as they are typically much slower then write speeds. I'm not saying read speed doesn't matter, but that there is certainly a diminishing return on speeds.
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http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-High-Pe...id=1417018420&sr=8-6&keywords=128+gb+micro+sd
Currently that's the fastest 128 GB card I've found, but you're going to pay for it out the nose. I'd vote to wait a bit and see if you can swing it with at 64 GB UHS card first, like the Samsung Pro series. The faster the card the more seamless the experience will be, and even though use will not mimic the benchmark situation it's still going to take less time to write and read to a very fast card in daily use so it will make a difference for sure.

livinonnoslp said:
http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-High-Pe...id=1417018420&sr=8-6&keywords=128+gb+micro+sd
Currently that's the fastest 128 GB card I've found, but you're going to pay for it out the nose. I'd vote to wait a bit and see if you can swing it with at 64 GB UHS card first, like the Samsung Pro series. The faster the card the more seamless the experience will be, and even though use will not mimic the benchmark situation it's still going to take less time to write and read to a very fast card in daily use so it will make a difference for sure.
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What about if I simply want to use it to load up and watch videos? No gaming nothing else. Is a SanDisk 128GB microSDXC @ 30MB good enough for that? Like say, this one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SanDisk-128...05&prg=11353&rk=3&rkt=6&sd=151483862076&rt=nc

Yes that should be fine I just wouldn't put any apps on it at all only media

Thanks for your help guys. Ended up buying a Sandisk UHS-3 64GB card for $100. So far so good. Although android's sd card support for apps is SO BAD.

Adoptable storage problems

I was just wondering how many of you have had problems/success with the adoptable storage. I have had two Moto x pures and both have messed up memory cards. I have lost 3 cards total that I could not access even when I tried from my PC. If you have had success I would love to know what card you are using. I've used a SanDisk ultra 64gb. A Samsung Evo 32gb and a lexar 32gb. The blue and gray ones. I'm not sure what the model was. All three of those are dead now pretty much because I can't access them.

What have you done to kill them? Are you rooted and flashing Roms or is this with the stock rom and no root? If the later do they just fail randomly or is there a specific trigger?

Running completely stock. No root. No Roms. I've never flashed anything on these particular phones. I never saw anything in common when the memory cards stopped working. It would just say the memory card was removed and then I would not be able to access it or anything stored on. When I would insert it into the computer it would say I needed to format the card.

Adopted storage puts a lot of stress on SD cards, unofficially even Motorola recommends against it (look in the Lenovo Support forums, several Motorola representatives recommend not to use adopted storage if you can get away with it). The problem is consumer microSD cards are not intended for constant read/write use that adopted storage puts the card though, thus they fail much earlier than "typical" usage situations. Again, this varies by card and it's quality, some will go a very long time, others not so much.
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-X...ard-Portable-or-Internal-storage/td-p/3536596

Did you then format the card and test it? Either the card failed due to read write degrading it or it really lost connection and that damaged the file structure.

It may just be the file system not recognised by Windows. Use a low level SD card formatting tool and check after doing a full format.
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An SDcard formatted for adoptable storage is encrypted and won't be readable on your computer.
Also, there are a bunch of counterfeit cards for sale these days. They work, sort-of. They're 4-gig cards modified to report a higher capacity. Once you put too much data on them, the filesystem can get corrupted.
Even if the cards are good, I've had nothing but issues with adoptable storage. I've only used it on a Moto E with 4 gigs of storage. My Moto X uses portable storage, and I've had no issues.

Adoptable storage for the most part had been a failure in my opinion. Some OEMs disable the function, such as Samsung. If you read around, you see many bad stories about the storage as well. Granted some people like it, but it is just not worth it all things considered. Personally, I think the original concept of saving select apps to the sd card worked better. If the app performance was poor, you could move it to internal. Would love to see that option come back.
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I used apptosd for years and it worked well.

So I guess next time I should just get a phone with more internal memory. I figured since I already had memory cards and adoptable storage was an option I could just save some cash and get the 16gb phone. I'm still hoping someone shares a positive story and what memory card they are using with success.

Me and my wife both had our 1st cards ruined in the Moto x pure. I don't remember the brand but since off eBay they could have easily been knockoffs. Wasn't using them as addoptive storage. I am now. PC would not recognize them. There are programs that I have had success with for free on PC to retrieve your photos from the cards even though the PC doesn't read them

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Me and my wife both had our 1st cards ruined in the Moto x pure. I don't remember the brand but since off eBay they could have easily been knockoffs. Wasn't using them as addoptive storage. I am now. PC would not recognize them. There are programs that I have had success with for free on PC to retrieve your photos from the cards even though the PC doesn't read them
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In my personal preference, I back up my photos to a PC monthly. But just to be sure I lose very little should my card go south, I use Google photos to backup while charging and on wifi. The unlimited option for photos means a slight reduction in size, but I also have peace of mind that I will still have them.

I was using adoptable storage for about a year in my old moto e lte without issues (sandisk 16gb), it was working great although I wasn't moving any apps to card. One time when I messed something up (definitely it was my fault) I couldn't acces my card but all I had to do was to put card into sd card reader and format it using partition wizard (you have to delete partitions that windows can't acces on it's own).

I have noticed my phone seems a bit slower launching some apps since I started adopted storage. Maybe an extra second to launch so it doesn't bother me. I am using am emtec u1 class 10 gold card. I don't know anything about the brand and am almost embarrassed to admit that I bought it at the hardware store lol

I have been using a SanDisk Ultra 32gb for 6 months without issue on stock non- rooted ROM. I don't take many pictures so no big deal for me if it gets corrupted. Amazon has the SanDisk 64gb Ultra for $16.00. Sadly I have the 16gb Pure.

I have the 16gb version with a Sandisk UHC-1 64gb as adoptable storage for about 2 months. Haven't had any issues so far and I moved the majority of my apps to the sd. Also haven't noticed any significant delay or performance impact either. I'm a casual user, no games or heavy demanding apps installed.

[No Root] Sdcard as internal storage.

You can use your Sdcard as internal storage on all 6.0+ devices.
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one thing to keep in mind: you'll want a fast card if you're planning on doing this. my sandisk UHS-1 cards has a speed of 30MB/s and I find it almost unusably slow for internal memory. simple reading apps took 10-15 seconds to load, and operating within the app was equally frustrating. formatted it and i just use it as storage, so everyone is happy

No cards are fast enough yet to make it worth the hassles, for me anyway

aviwdoowks said:
No cards are fast enough yet to make it worth the hassles, for me anyway
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I'm using a combination card, 30gb adopted, 90gb external. It's a Samsung uhs1 card. Definitely slower response from heavier apps stored there, but it's nice to offload stuff that I use less frequently or that doesn't need a lot of speed (utilities, eBook readers, etc) to maximize onboard storage for the apps that need it. I dump media to the external portion so it is usable on other devices should I need to do so.

if you're interested in seamless performance, check out the new A1 series that SanDisk is producing. It conforms to the new standard that states it should be as fast as internal memory when used as adoptable storage. http://www.droid-life.com/2017/01/05/sandisks-new-256gb-a1-microsd-card-wants-apps/