Sony's update regularity... - Xperia Z5 Premium General

Basically, I change phones every year. When a new iPhone comes out, I get that but when it's a 'S' year, I get an Android instead. It's an 'S' year and I am considering the Z5 Premium. Before my iPhone 6, I was using the LG G2...
I know it's up to the vendors to release the latest updates and the Nexus line always have the latest Android. My question is, how is Sony in this regard? Do they generally take a long time to push out a new update? Or are they normally quite quick?

They update their products regularly. As i recall after initial release if there's a bug it only takes 2 to 3 mos to update problem after that new version of android released i think bet 3 to 6 mos. But great stability issues if ever theres a bug for new version 1 to 3 mos it will addressed by sony. As of now z series updated up to this date. This is based on experience on sony sony user since xperia s.
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I wanted to try this phone, but updates are so far behind. I sold my Z3 because of the lack of updates.
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Updates to sony is about 2 months late than samsung
But it is very stable.
Sony devices are well supported by custom rom developers.
If we considered branded phones sony is only 2nd to Motorola in terms of custom rom development.
I mean if we consider all sony phones.
Not only Z series

I think that Sony updates quite well. And what is great about them is that they really make sure that the update is stable.
I remember the whole Lollipop fiasco last december when Nexus and Samsung got their latest update and it was just one big mess.

Well i dont know for others but sony update was a very stable update what's the point of updating fast and regularly if there are so many issues and problem if they can do one time fix.
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sacredsoul said:
Basically, I change phones every year. When a new iPhone comes out, I get that but when it's a 'S' year, I get an Android instead. It's an 'S' year and I am considering the Z5 Premium. Before my iPhone 6, I was using the LG G2...
I know it's up to the vendors to release the latest updates and the Nexus line always have the latest Android. My question is, how is Sony in this regard? Do they generally take a long time to push out a new update? Or are they normally quite quick?
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Sony are definitely a growing brand, listening to consumers etc.
They're community testing the marshmallow concept build on the Z3 atm which is a novel approach as only Microsoft have done similar in the past.
I think updates will be more regular.
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Jygar said:
Sony are definitely a growing brand, listening to consumers etc.
They're community testing the marshmallow concept build on the Z3 atm which is a novel approach as only Microsoft have done similar in the past.
I think updates will be more regular.
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Ah a bit late now. Already got the Nexus 6P

sacredsoul said:
Ah a bit late now. Already got the Nexus 6P
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Hope you have better luck than me, I had 3 all of them with screen or build issues.
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Jygar said:
Hope you have better luck than me, I had 3 all of them with screen or build issues.
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Oh mine seems all good. Of course, I didn't go and see every nook and cranny to make sure it's 100% perfect though. But the major parts all look fine to me.

alhadee12 said:
I wanted to try this phone, but updates are so far behind. I sold my Z3 because of the lack of updates.
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I don't own a Z3 but I'm pretty sure it has gotten a LOT of updates and more to come.

itsjustJOH said:
I don't own a Z3 but I'm pretty sure it has gotten a LOT of updates and more to come.
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The phone didn't get many updates and when it did they dealt solely with Sony and not so much Android based updates.
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alhadee12 said:
The phone didn't get many updates and when it did they dealt solely with Sony and not so much Android based updates.
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The phone came out with 4.4, got updated to 5.0 and then 5.1. It's also gonna get 6.0. It has all the Android versions since 4.4. The rest are minor updates. I don't get how much is "many" for you.
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The phone came out with 4.4, got updated to 5.0 and then 5.1. It's also gonna get 6.0. It has all the Android versions since 4.4. The rest are minor updates. I don't get how much is "many" for you.
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Honestly, it doesn't matter at this point I sold the phone. Also, the phone I had through T-Mobile never received the 5.0 update before I sold it. At that point "many" turns out to be a lot based upon your post.
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alhadee12 said:
Honestly, it doesn't matter at this point I sold the phone. Also, the phone I had through T-Mobile never received the 5.0 update before I sold it. At that point "many" turns out to be a lot based upon your post.
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Well you bought the carrier locked phone, don't blame Sony for that.

itsjustJOH said:
Well you bought the carrier locked phone, don't blame Sony for that.
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I'm not blaming anyone and I'm not sure how you concluded I was blaming Sony. I made the conscious choice to purchase the phone and made the same choice to sell it. If I ever decide to purchase on again, I'll get the unlocked version.
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Well you bought the carrier locked phone, don't blame Sony for that.
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This was my original post, "I wanted to try this phone, but updates are so far behind. I sold my Z3 because of the lack of updates."
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This was my original post, "I wanted to try this phone, but updates are so far behind. I sold my Z3 because of the lack of updates."
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You just implied that the updates on Sony phones "are so far behind" because of your experience with one phone that was apparently carrier locked but you did not state it on your original post. Even if you did not mean that, the construction of your sentences does otherwise.

itsjustJOH said:
You just implied that the updates on Sony phones "are so far behind" because of your experience with one phone that was apparently carrier locked but you did not state it on your original post. Even if you did not mean that, the construction of your sentences does otherwise.
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I didn't imply anything, you assumed nor did I say Sony phones. I referred to the phone I had and my sentence structure if off in your opinion should lead to questions not sweeping characterization of my statement. What's your point and are you taking the position to be the defender of all things Sony? [emoji23]
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alhadee12 said:
I didn't imply anything, you assumed nor did I say Sony phones. I referred to the phone I had and my sentence structure if off in your opinion should lead to questions not sweeping characterization of my statement. What's your point and are you taking the position to be the defender of all things Sony? [emoji23]
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My point is you that wrote something that seemed something negative about Sony's updates because of your experience of one phone (that is again apparently carrier locked) which should not be because of how much they update their phones, I proved it and that's when you said it's from T-Mobile, you defended your original post and I merely pointed out how it's because of your sentence structure that made it seem like you were stereotyping all Sony phones. I reacted because I know how many updates the Z3 has received despite not owning it, and, yes, I'm a Sony fan.

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My point is you that wrote something that seemed something negative about Sony's updates because of your experience of one phone (that is again apparently carrier locked) which should not be because of how much they update their phones, I proved it and that's when you said it's from T-Mobile, you defended your original post and I merely pointed out how it's because of your sentence structure that made it seem like you were stereotyping all Sony phones. I reacted because I know how many updates the Z3 has received despite not owning it, and, yes, I'm a Sony fan.
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It's not a negative post, its simply a fact as it relates to the phone I purchased. Your point is correct when you started, "because of your experience". Your proof is that the carrier version doesn't receive updates like the international version.
So, to that point my position is correct to have sold the phone. It's not that I dislike Sony. You have to stop assuming and start asking questions for clarification before defending a position that needs no defense.
We're all entitled to our opinions based upon the products we purchase. Also, if you don't own one please don't assume all models receive updates. Just a thought. [emoji56]
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Samsung Galaxy S3 to Receive Android 4.1, JellyBean in Q4 2012

The Samsung Galaxy S3 will receive the Android 4.1, JellyBean update in the fourth quarter of 2012.
The software was unveiled by Google during the company's Google I/O keynote earlier this week, according to YouMobile.org.
The first devices to receive the software will be the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, and the Motorola XOOM Wi-Fi tablet with an OTA update coming in the middle of July.
JellyBean brings a number of enhancements to the already impressive Android 4.0 that improve touch responsiveness and the overall smoothness of animations and the UI. The frame rate has also been accelerated to 60 frames per second.
Google displayed demos of the redesigned widgets in the software that scale intelligently around other UI elements along with a new Predictive Keyboard that takes voice commands.
Android 4.1, also features redesigned notifications that Google has now made fully customizable, expandable, and collapsible.
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Google execs also presented a demo during the event that displayed the new notifications expanding to provide more information as they reached the top of the list and how they also can be expanded and collapsed at any time with gestures.
Jelly Bean will also have an improved voice search that is very similar to Apple's Siri voice navigation system featured on the iPhone 4S.
A new feature called "Google Now" also debuted at the event.
"Google Now" functions as a search product that utilizes customizable cards such as "Sports" or "Flights" that will keep users up to date on data that is important to them. It also provides users with personal assistant-like features.
For example, the cards feature gives up to date information based on a user's personal preference and location. It also updates travel information for people running late and give sports scores for teams that the user likes.
http://global.christianpost.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-to-receive-android-4-1-jellybean-in-q4-2012-77422/
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he Samsung Galaxy S3 will receive the Android 4.1, JellyBean update in the fourth quarter of 2012.
The software was unveiled by Google during the company's Google I/O keynote earlier this week, according to YouMobile.org.
The first devices to receive the software will be the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, and the Motorola XOOM Wi-Fi tablet with an OTA update coming in the middle of July.
JellyBean brings a number of enhancements to the already impressive Android 4.0 that improve touch responsiveness and the overall smoothness of animations and the UI. The frame rate has also been accelerated to 60 frames per second.
Google displayed demos of the redesigned widgets in the software that scale intelligently around other UI elements along with a new Predictive Keyboard that takes voice commands.
Android 4.1, also features redesigned notifications that Google has now made fully customizable, expandable, and collapsible.
Follow us
Google execs also presented a demo during the event that displayed the new notifications expanding to provide more information as they reached the top of the list and how they also can be expanded and collapsed at any time with gestures.
Jelly Bean will also have an improved voice search that is very similar to Apple's Siri voice navigation system featured on the iPhone 4S.
A new feature called "Google Now" also debuted at the event.
"Google Now" functions as a search product that utilizes customizable cards such as "Sports" or "Flights" that will keep users up to date on data that is important to them. It also provides users with personal assistant-like features.
For example, the cards feature gives up to date information based on a user's personal preference and location. It also updates travel information for people running late and give sports scores for teams that the user likes.
http://global.christianpost.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-to-receive-android-4-1-jellybean-in-q4-2012-77422/
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Cool, bro.
But you could have posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739204
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Cool, bro.
But you could have posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739204
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Sure dude didnt saw his thread..Anyway cant wait wait for Jelly Bean:cyclops:
Q4? I thought the sources were due in July. Expect 2-3 weeks before the first real AOSP-roms pop up, so in August everyone who cares will be running 4.1
Who cares about Samsung-official stuff anymore?
Where's Q4 coming from?
I know they're in with god and all, but somehow I don't think "The Christian Post" knows better than Samsung's own Twitter.
esist said:
Where's Q4 coming from?
I know they're in with god and all, but somehow I don't think "The Christian Post" knows better than Samsung's own Twitter.
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Sammobile is not Samsung's twitter.
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If they say Q4 then expect it by may 2013
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Sammobile is not Samsung's twitter.
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Hadn't noticed that. Well in that case, it remains to be seen as far as I'm concerned.
Only something coming directly from a Samsung source is reliable. Samsung don't announce these things privately in press conferences, they just tweet it.
Have they confirmed a timeframe themselves? (In China + On Twitter = I can't check easily)
I thought that the PDK support that comes with JB would make it easier for the OEM's to release faster updates. Q4 is too late
leftheodo said:
I thought that the PDK support that comes with JB would make it easier for the OEM's to release faster updates. Q4 is too late
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No it isn't.
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No it isn't.
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Lol!
For Samsung, Q4 is super fast!!!
Let's just wait and see and keep the speculation to a minimum for now because it only leads to "wtf, I don't has jellybeenz yet, why iz Samsung mean to me!!!11" Threads.
It'll come when it comes.
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nodstuff said:
Lol!
For Samsung, Q4 is super fast!!!
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Why does everyone say this? I don't get it. I don't see any manufacturer that get updates out faster.
Samsung should be faster. They all should. But everyone always seems to say that Samsung are very bad for getting updates out fast. Relatively speaking, they seem quite fast.
esist said:
Why does everyone say this? I don't get it. I don't see any manufacturer that get updates out faster.
Samsung should be faster. They all should. But everyone always seems to say that Samsung are very bad for getting updates out fast. Relatively speaking, they seem quite fast.
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That's everyone's response due to what happen to the sgs1,which still got gingerbread at a reasonable time just not the us carrier versions.
SGS2 was faster, but still the us SGS2 suffered due to carrier request and delays.
Really it's the US carriers fault. US won't see jelly bean for 6 to 9 months.
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SlimJ87D said:
That's everyone's response due to what happen to the sgs1,which still got gingerbread at a reasonable time just not the us carrier versions.
SGS2 was faster, but still the us SGS2 suffered due to carrier request and delays.
Really it's the US carriers fault. US won't see jelly bean for 6 to 9 months.
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Ironically the US Galaxy Nexus gets jellybean first.
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SlimJ87D said:
That's everyone's response due to what happen to the sgs1,which still got gingerbread at a reasonable time just not the us carrier versions.
SGS2 was faster, but still the us SGS2 suffered due to carrier request and delays.
Really it's the US carriers fault. US won't see jelly bean for 6 to 9 months.
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My sentiments exactly. I remember waiting for Gingerbread on my S1. But I don't remember envying every other manufacturers update speed. I (possibly) remember HTC shipping one slightly faster but nothing long enough to warrant the "Samsung updates are **** slow" mentality that everyone seems to have.
The post I quoted was from someone in Ireland though. You can't blame the US networks for that.
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My sentiments exactly. I remember waiting for Gingerbread on my S1. But I don't remember envying every other manufacturers update speed. I (possibly) remember HTC shipping one slightly faster but nothing long enough to warrant the "Samsung updates are **** slow" mentality that everyone seems to have.
The post I quoted was from someone in Ireland though. You can't blame the US networks for that.
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Well seeing that Ireland is GSM we get our updates first along with all GSM ppls.
I'm just used to nexuses for updates and in comparison Samsung are slower. (obviously, nexuses are the reference device)
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Ironically the US Galaxy Nexus gets jellybean first.
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US galaxy nexuses and my Irish one.....
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To be fair, sources come out one day and we should recieve it OTA the next but all these companies are too damn busy tripping over each other and themselves to actually do anything for anyone about anything.
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nodstuff said:
US galaxy nexuses and my Irish one.....
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Sorry my friend, play store nexuses get it before European GSM ones I have heard
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Sorry my friend, play store nexuses get it before European GSM ones I have heard
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Well I have it now! "Preview" version or not, it looks pretty damn finished to me!
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Final 4.3 Sense 3.14.8888.1 en-route?

I saw this leaked pic on GSM Arena from IFA. Rumor has it that it was one of the demo phones.. I dont think they would put a pre-production build on a demo device. I hope it fixes the little issues such as the SIM read issue and improves battery life. It wasnt terrible but it isnt quite what 4.2.2 was.
Being said it looks like Sense 5.5 WONT be released (initially) with 4.3, but it is great to see fast updates from OEM's while running skins.
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Updated with tweets from LlabTooFeR:
@LlabTooFeR About 4.3 update for HTC One. It will have 2 waves,first wave 3.1x.xxx.x builds will be released in US with Sense 5.0 on board
@LlabTooFeR Second wave is for international HTC One with 4.3 and Sense 5.5 (not confirmed yet). So anyway first update 4.3 + 5.0 and second 4.3 + 5.5..
@LlabTooFeR Anyway all current devices (HTC One, One mini, Butterfly S) will get 5.5 at some point after release of HTC T6.
@LlabTooFeR I don't have any details about Sense 5.5.. HTC is really strict about Sense, see what happened with those designer guys...
Pocketnow has it in a video on a red one as well
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It's been stated that the update will be by the end of September so this does make sense, I can't remember the leak build number to see if it's newer or older. What I want is multiple lock screen widgets.
Is the next sense version going to be 5.5 or 6. I read about htc Designers Leaving HTC For New Company Interrogated For Expense Fraud and Stealing Sense 6.0 Trade Secrets. Either way i think that the new sense update will come with the One Max on release then to our One.
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I saw this leaked pic on GSM Arena from IFA. Rumor has it that it was one of the demo phones.. I dont think they would put a pre-production build on a demo device. I hope it fixes the little issues such as the SIM read issue and improves battery life. It wasnt terrible but it isnt quite what 4.2.2 was.
Being said it looks like Sense 5.5 WONT be released with 4.3, but it is great to see fast updates from OEM's while running skins.
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You have to take into consideration the carriers who will slow things down and over bloat it.
Mackenzie says he hopes to have ALL ones updated by end of September so it might have gotten sent to the carriers already or real soon so they can overbloat it and send it out by the end of the month, t-mobile might take the longest as they didn't have faith in the phone when it was launched that's why only the silver one is available through t-mobile, it's selling well but they favor Samsung
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Mackenzie says he hopes to have ALL ones updated by end of September so it might have gotten sent to the carriers already or real soon so they can overbloat it and send it out by the end of the month, t-mobile might take the longest as they didn't have faith in the phone when it was launched that's why only the silver one is available through t-mobile, it's selling well but they favor Samsung
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Tmo only got the silver because black was AT&T only. Just like the 64gb non development one.
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Tmo only got the silver because black was AT&T only. Just like the 64gb non development one.
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Sprint also has black
Prod1702 said:
Tmo only got the silver because black was AT&T only. Just like the 64gb non development one.
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Sprint has black too, I spoke to someone from an htc kiosk who also worked at tmobile and he told me straight up tmobile didn't think the phone would be a top seller so there were stores that didn't order a large quantity but were wiped out once it was released, and this is true because that was the case in my area when I was in a tmobile store I over heard workers telling customers that it was sold out in 15 mins of release and that they had ordered a small quantity, fast forward a month later when I exchanged the iphone 5 for the one and that was still the case for some stores I called asking if it was in stock and the worker's at a couple different stores told me it was sold out and they order small quantities, they have special sections for the iphone and a big Samsung section but they lump the one next to phones like the cheap Nokia lumia model or the ghetto mytouch lol so there's my point
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The same software version also appeared on the RED HTC One from Pocketnow's video.
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I saw this leaked pic on GSM Arena from IFA. Rumor has it that it was one of the demo phones.. I dont think they would put a pre-production build on a demo device. I hope it fixes the little issues such as the SIM read issue and improves battery life. It wasnt terrible but it isnt quite what 4.2.2 was.
Being said it looks like Sense 5.5 WONT be released with 4.3, but it is great to see fast updates from OEM's while running skins.
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iirc 8888 are perfomance test builds, we saw one for 422 too a while back but the final build was higher still (2.19.8888.1 final release 2.24.401.1 iirc)
Interesting.....
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we will see a final build soon
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Interesting.....
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Yeah I saw those when I woke up this morning, I updated the OP with it!
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8888 is performance test build. Consider it the last few builds before OTA.
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It doesn't matter when HTC drops the update, even if they did it today if your on AT&T or Verizon you will be lucky to see it by the end of the year. AT&T is horrific about updates, took them almost a year to put jellybean on the Note. If AT&T gets the one max before the end of the year you won't see official 4.3 for a very long time if ever.
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It doesn't matter when HTC drops the update, even if they did it today if your on AT&T or Verizon you will be lucky to see it by the end of the year. AT&T is horrific about updates, took them almost a year to put jellybean on the Note. If AT&T gets the one max before the end of the year you won't see official 4.3 for a very long time if ever.
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All us carriers are horrible with this, I will be suprised if that's not the case this time and we do get the update soon, but I do think we will finally get our way this time, they can't mess this up for current and future one owners all eyes is on htc now
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All us carriers are horrible with this, I will be suprised if that's not the case this time and we do get the update soon, but I do think we will finally get our way this time, they can't mess this up for current and future one owners all eyes is on htc now
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I understand what your saying but AT&T could care less about the end users, the 5s and note3 are dropping any time now and if the max hits soon after that's all she wrote as far as official builds, will we see official 4.3 yes but not till end of year or first of next year. It's not HTC it's the carriers.
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I understand what your saying but AT&T could care less about the end users, the 5s and note3 are dropping any time now and if the max hits soon after that's all she wrote as far as official builds, will we see official 4.3 yes but not till end of year or first of next year. It's not HTC it's the carriers.
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In that latest tweet from labtoofer doesn't he say the first wave will begin in us first?
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In that latest tweet from labtoofer doesn't he say the first wave will begin in us first?
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Still doesn't matter, att has to hold it and put there crap on it

¿Android 4.4.4 Update for Sony Xperia Z in middle of August?

Android 4.4.4 Update for Sony Xperia Z
Sony has recently started rolling out Android 4.4.4 update for three of its smartphones; Xperia Z1, Xperia Z1 Compact and Xperia Z Ultra.
Though Android 4.4.4 is not a major update and is only minor one with few bug fixes but still Sony fans from all over the world are anxiously waiting for this update.
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Especially the users of Sony Xperia Z are curious to know if Sony will roll out Android 4.4.4 update for Sony Xperia Z or not.
Wel, for all the Xperia Z users we have a great news. Sony has planned to roll out Android 4.4.4 update for Sony Xperia Z as well. However, the exact date is not known as of yet.
According to the inside sources, Sony believes that its last year flagship should get the latest Android 4.4.4 as it fixes few major bugs.
This new update will most probably be available to download by the mid of August. Android 4.4.4 update for Sony Xperia Z will not only improve the overall performance of the device but will also ensure that the battery drain issue is resolved.
With the roll out of Android 4.4.4 update for Sony Xperia Z we might witness an end to future updates for the last year flagship.
However, it’s still too early to say.​
Source:
http://smartphonetechie.com/android-4-4-4-update-sony-xperia-z/
true or not?
Lol the text is nice copied xD
We shall see but sure we all hope we get 4.4.4 ^^
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We deserve it...
4.4.2 was an odd job, full of mistakes, lags and battery drains. So I expect further updates if Sony wants to make happy it's customers. We spent a lot of money in a flagship which is not even 2 years old.
Anyway, we have great developers here in XDA and outside, I hope they stay long time with this device because it is fantastic and has nothing to envy for newer phones. Indeed I'm using CM11 by thomas and except the camera, all is working better than stock.
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jpacho89 said:
We deserve it...
4.4.2 was an odd job, full of mistakes, lags and battery drains. So I expect further updates if Sony wants to make happy it's customers. We spent a lot of money in a flagship which is not even 2 years old.
Anyway, we have great developers here in XDA and outside, I hope they stay long time with this device because it is fantastic and has nothing to envy for newer phones. Indeed I'm using CM11 by thomas and except the camera, all is working better than stock.
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Sorry to say that 2 years is a long time, even for flagships like the XZ. All manufacturers rely on selling phones to get an income. Aftermarket support have been somewhat an bonus from the most popular devices as that don't render any money.
Looking to Samsung 2 years ago you have the SIII and the last update it will get is the last 4.3 (if you don't have the LTE version but that is another stry ).
I just keep my fingers crossed and hope for update but wouldn't be suprised if it's not released.
jpacho89 said:
We deserve it...
4.4.2 was an odd job, full of mistakes, lags and battery drains. So I expect further updates if Sony wants to make happy it's customers. We spent a lot of money in a flagship which is not even 2 years old.
Anyway, we have great developers here in XDA and outside, I hope they stay long time with this device because it is fantastic and has nothing to envy for newer phones. Indeed I'm using CM11 by thomas and except the camera, all is working better than stock.
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There arent much mistakes by Sony if u ask me.. To be fair, the actual 4.4.2 from Google itself was too buggy.. All bugs on XZ is from the actual OS.. Except for tiny glitches(Lags as u say) has been due to the patches Sony apply on the fw.. But to be fair, XZ 230 fw has been way better than Z2's 402 fw.. I have seen lot of users in Z2 saying 402 fw crashes a lot, very buggy.. And FYI, there are battery drains due to Google Play Services problem, which is Google's fault.. Not Sony's.. With the workarounds, i see a big improvement in battery life from 4.3.. If u want proof, u can check in battery stats thread last page..
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Sorry to say that 2 years is a long time, even for flagships like the XZ. All manufacturers rely on selling phones to get an income. Aftermarket support have been somewhat an bonus from the most popular devices as that don't render any money.
Looking to Samsung 2 years ago you have the SIII and the last update it will get is the last 4.3 (if you don't have the LTE version but that is another stry ).
I just keep my fingers crossed and hope for update but wouldn't be suprised if it's not released.
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Oviously manufacturers are looking for an income. But 600€ phone deserves at least 2 years software support or more, and there is not that period from the launch of the device to the launch of android 4.4.4.
And it's not very difficult for a company to make an update, even some developers here have made more contributions than sony... The money will render when we need to update our device because it is broken (not very difficult in our case if it drops lol) or because there have been big improvements in the phones, not because they don't update the software or they had made a buggy version. A happy customer is very significant for future sales. Otherwise he will buy in another company.
And refering to SIII, we all know samsung update policies: not enough RAM, bla bla bla...
Never more policarbonate and lagwiz.
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That will be nice.. http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/558675/20140710/android-4-kitkat-live-sony-xperia-z1.htm#.U769HqD8Im8
https://optus.intelliresponse.com/?...question=Mobile phone/tablet's OS updates#4.0
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/07/1...-hints-at-android-4-4-4-release-for-xperia-z/
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https://optus.intelliresponse.com/?...question=Mobile phone/tablet's OS updates#4.0
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/07/1...-hints-at-android-4-4-4-release-for-xperia-z/
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you should ask sony instead of olivia
Pablosch23 said:
you should ask sony instead of olivia
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Wow! Really?
Olivia is Optus (An Australian carrier). Read
RyomaEchizen said:
Wow! Really?
Olivia is Optus (An Australian carrier). Read
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damn u can't take a joke ? I know is a carrier, is what the pic says
android l is more ... to wait
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you should ask sony instead of olivia
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Hi Mate,
So does this mean we get a direct update to 4.4.4 without first upgrading to 4.4.3...?!
Thats cool..,
Cheers,
Max
Source
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I'm sure that website just has someone faking those "leaked" update schedules.
The last time they posted one, it wasn't accurate.
kingvortex said:
I'm sure that website just has someone faking those "leaked" update schedules.
The last time they posted one, it wasn't accurate.
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Who knows, let's all hope its true and see what SONY do.
¿Good News?
http://community.vodafone.com.au/t5...date-Weekly-Wrap-21st-August-2014/ba-p/357053
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¿Good News?
http://community.vodafone.com.au/t5...date-Weekly-Wrap-21st-August-2014/ba-p/357053
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These update schedules from Vodafone AU are usually pretty accurate and the source is reliable so it seems like good news but doesn't list 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 so there's no real way to be sure which version it is. Gave thanks to the post though!
wright_ac said:
These update schedules from Vodafone AU are usually pretty accurate and the source is reliable so it seems like good news but doesn't list 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 so there's no real way to be sure which version it is. Gave thanks to the post though!
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We have already 4.4.2 on our XZ, and i think its 4.4.4 so far i know !

Android nougat for mate series

Just read news today
That huawei mate series will be getting android nougat update at the end of this year
Source : http://www.gizguide.com/2016/07/android-nougat-is-coming-to-nexus.html?m=1
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Might be mate 8 and mate S , there is no proof for our 7 ,lets wait official announcement
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I highly doubt that it's going to happen, but if they really give us another update then I know what brand my next device will be for sure
On another site i read, mate 8 & other phones in mate series will get this update, p series still not confirmed
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Marshmallow was sent to all devices in huawei , from low end to high end
We have a med high device
it will recieve nougat for sure
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I wish, if they do that my next device could be huawei again.
Extremely limited XDA support. I won't be buying another Huawei phone, but that doesn't mean they are bad phones. They're great devices if you want an "as" is phone.
sbeaber4 said:
Extremely limited XDA support. I won't be buying another Huawei phone, but that doesn't mean they are bad phones. They're great devices if you want an "as" is phone.
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Which phone you have?
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Ascend Mate 7. TL-09
sbeaber4 said:
Ascend Mate 7. TL-09
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For this phone we have support thread with more than 100 pages, how you can say limited support?
What you want to do?
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Perhaps if I said "in comparison"?
A look through the troubleshooting section we can see the lack of activity. Questions often go unanswered. The lack of custom Roms. Etc
If this is satisfactory to you, then I'm pleased for you. The community has done an excellent job with this phone for what is actually possible. I didn't mean to imply otherwise.
However I'm used to other devices such as Nexus, Motorola, HTC which have phones that are quite old but with
(what i would consider) excellent support.
sbeaber4 said:
Perhaps if I said "in comparison"?
A look through the troubleshooting section we can see the lack of activity. Questions often go unanswered. The lack of custom Roms. Etc
If this is satisfactory to you, then I'm pleased for you. The community has done an excellent job with this phone for what is actually possible. I didn't mean to imply otherwise.
However I'm used to other devices such as Nexus, Motorola, HTC which have phones that are quite old but with
(what i would consider) excellent support.
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Well this board is not ran by companies,
People doing it for free.
And if someone posts questions without reading / searching forum, then its his mistake, we are individuals can not read each an every single question specially if it has already been resolved in old thread.
2nd thing is not all issues can be resolved.
Instead of complaining we should be thankful to all developers here providing support without charges.
Other than this buying a phone is your own choice. But don't blame people who serve without money.
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Correct. It is my choice. And I'm unsatisfied with it for the reasons I outlined.
There seems to be some confusion on your end. As I said the community has done a good job for whatever Huawei allows. I try to help as well in my own limited way. I'm not blaming anyone. I'm surprised and sorry you got that from reading my post. But I stand by what I said and further clarified: XDA support is extremely limited when compared to other phones. Which is why I will not be purchasing another Huawei phone that is not a Nexus.
I was thinking of buying the Mate 8 but there forum over there is the proverbial ghost town.
All this said, (as I said earlier) Huawei makes good phones. But they are not as designed for tinkering and modding as other models and such the modding scene suffers for it.
Again, this is not an attack on you or anyone else that has contributed their time and effort into improving our experiences with this phone.
Lastly, I hope understand that all of what I said I'd opinionated and mean no disrespect.
sbeaber4 said:
Correct. It is my choice. And I'm unsatisfied with it for the reasons I outlined.
There seems to be some confusion on your end. As I said the community has done a good job for whatever Huawei allows. I try to help as well in my own limited way. I'm not blaming anyone. I'm surprised and sorry you got that from reading my post. But I stand by what I said and further clarified: XDA support is extremely limited when compared to other phones. Which is why I will not be purchasing another Huawei phone that is not a Nexus.
I was thinking of buying the Mate 8 but there forum over there is the proverbial ghost town.
All this said, (as I said earlier) Huawei makes good phones. But they are not as designed for tinkering and modding as other models and such the modding scene suffers for it.
Again, this is not an attack on you or anyone else that has contributed their time and effort into improving our experiences with this phone.
Lastly, I hope understand that all of what I said I'd opinionated and mean no disrespect.
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Yes you are right
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sbeaber4 said:
Extremely limited XDA support. I won't be buying another Huawei phone, but that doesn't mean they are bad phones. They're great devices if you want an "as" is phone.
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i agree with you. the hardware is great, but that damn software though!! i might buy a honor 5x just because it has custom roms but that that will be the last huawei i evert buy. there lack of source sharing is just horrible. its sad that their are very little choices in large phones.
mutahharbashir said:
For this phone we have support thread with more than 100 pages, how you can say limited support?
What you want to do?
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100 questions, not roms or kernels or these stuff
it's more tham very limited support
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Same here. The last Huawei phone I will buy. Appalling software (EMUI = Below standard), the hardest phone I have ever had to contend with and the most frustrating. That said it is my choice to mess about with it
Some people seem to have success, others not.
if custom roms is what people are after, there are Huawei phones with Snapdragon processors now... i think the new Novas both have Snapdragon.
On the other hand, i would go crazy for Huawei if they released Nougat for our Mate 7. I think the phone has had a good support in relation to software upgrades (i've updated like 3 times more since the first Marshmallow). If not, well the damn thing had a good run. It's a great phone and i would buy another Huawei without hesitation.
I came to Huawei after a serious of Samsung devices where uploading a new ROM every single day was the norm.
Trying new ROMs, installing the latest nightly CM ROM or maybe some new features knicked from a subsequent model, gives a completely different experience with a device.
I kind of missed that when I switched to Huawei, but after a while I started to appreciate more the out of the box experience these devices have to offer, stable performance is probably the main one. Of course Samsung forums are more active, look at the issue lists of some of those ROMS ☺
All in all, comparing Huawei to Samsung, I would choose Samsung hands down if tampering around is what I'm after. For a stock experience I would go for Huawei again, they support their phones with official upgrades for longer, and EMUI is by far cleaner than Touchwiz.
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Absolutely Right.
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[Updated - Petition] voLTE for OnePlus One (OPX users also with us)

OPO was the device that made oneplus what it is today, don't we deserve a small update that would complete our phone from the software perspective?
We are always given the argument that our hardware isn't voLTE capable, each one of us knows that voLTE is a software feature.
Let's tweet to Carl Pei (link below) with hashtag voLTE4OPO requesting voLTE update for OnePlus One, I've already done so. Let's also tell him we know voLTE is a software feature. It's your turn now. Tell your friends owning OPO about this initiative.
Also sign this petition -
https://www.change.org/p/oneplus-release-update-of-volte-for-all-oneplus-devices
Don't forget, 5 fingers make a fist, support of everyone reading this is needed. I'm quite sure we're still quite large in number together & our dream might come true if we work together ?
Thanks
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Carl Pei's twitter account link -
https://twitter.com/getpeid
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Great!
Awesome campaign. Tweeted!
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Tweated but i think its of no use.......... But best luck to OPO
pankspoo said:
Tweated but i think its of no use.......... But best luck to OPO
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We should get, even $45 phones today come with voLTE, and OPO is the first flagship which established the company, it is not acceptable if the ditch support to OPO. And it's not even 5 years since it was launched, how can you ditch your flagship product in 2 years?
Success or failure is another thing, atleast we can give a last shot. Who knows maybe they become kind for us ✌?
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impulsar said:
We should get, even $45 phones today come with voLTE, and OPO is the first flagship which established the company, it is not acceptable if the ditch support to OPO. And it's not even 5 years since it was launched, how can you ditch your flagship product in 2 years?
Success or failure is another thing, atleast we can give a last shot. Who knows maybe they become kind for us
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The 45$ phone you are talking about has launched in 2016. OnePlus one was launched in April, 2014.
Do you know how long that has been? 2 yrs, 9 months.
Tell me ONE phone, ANY ONE phone from ANY MANUFACTURER that has received support THIS late into its life. Not Samsung S series, not HTC One series, not Sony Xperia Z series, heck even the best manufacturer in update scenario, Motorola, abandons it's smartphones in 2 yrs. Don't fall into the misunderstanding that your so called tweets will get OnePlus onto its toes to give out an update to you. Do you see a phone called OnePlus X into its portfolio? It was launched in October, 2015 - 1y 6 months AFTER the launch of the One. That phone hasn't received a VoLTE update, and won't EVER. Come back from your dreamland, be a sport, either change your phone or live with the fact that One is a dead product.
Oh, and Carl is having a laugh at you right now for your efforts ?
rshbhghelani said:
The 45$ phone you are talking about has launched in 2016. OnePlus one was launched in April, 2014.
Do you know how long that has been? 2 yrs, 9 months.
Tell me ONE phone, ANY ONE phone from ANY MANUFACTURER that has received support THIS late into its life. Not Samsung S series, not HTC One series, not Sony Xperia Z series, heck even the best manufacturer in update scenario, Motorola, abandons it's smartphones in 2 yrs. Don't fall into the misunderstanding that your so called tweets will get OnePlus onto its toes to give out an update to you. Do you see a phone called OnePlus X into its portfolio? It was launched in October, 2015 - 1y 6 months AFTER the launch of the One. That phone hasn't received a VoLTE update, and won't EVER. Come back from your dreamland, be a sport, either change your phone or live with the fact that One is a dead product.
Oh, and Carl is having a laugh at you right now for your efforts ?
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I might not be precise with numbers, but what's wrong in an effort? It's not gonna take one's life making a tweet ? I'm sure OPO is also special for oneplus guys and our effort might make a change in their heart ?
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impulsar said:
I might not be precise with numbers, but what's wrong in an effort? It's not gonna take one's life making a tweet I'm sure OPO is also special for oneplus guys and our effort might make a change in their heart
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I have no problems with that, but the thing is if the One had been that special, they would have shown it, like say, Oxygen OS might have been updated for it which never went past Android 5.1.1. In the end we have to respect Carl and his decision, OnePlus is after all a rational company with profit as its motive, whether they say it or not. And at this point, they have no point giving out an update to a phone that has a lot less number of users or that won't rake in even one cent for the company!
tweeted!
This discussed lots of time before
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...53#post70108853?_e_pi_=7,PAGE_ID10,2279808605
Yeah the opo reached its EOL. I dont think we will receive any more updates.
rshbhghelani said:
The 45$ phone you are talking about has launched in 2016. OnePlus one was launched in April, 2014.
Do you know how long that has been? 2 yrs, 9 months.
Tell me ONE phone, ANY ONE phone from ANY MANUFACTURER that has received support THIS late into its life. Not Samsung S series, not HTC One series, not Sony Xperia Z series, heck even the best manufacturer in update scenario, Motorola, abandons it's smartphones in 2 yrs. Don't fall into the misunderstanding that your so called tweets will get OnePlus onto its toes to give out an update to you. Do you see a phone called OnePlus X into its portfolio? It was launched in October, 2015 - 1y 6 months AFTER the launch of the One. That phone hasn't received a VoLTE update, and won't EVER. Come back from your dreamland, be a sport, either change your phone or live with the fact that One is a dead product.
Oh, and Carl is having a laugh at you right now for your efforts
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iPhone 4 got supported for more or less than 4 years? But it's apple, so yeah. lol
rshbhghelani said:
The 45$ phone you are talking about has launched in 2016. OnePlus one was launched in April, 2014.
Do you know how long that has been? 2 yrs, 9 months.
Tell me ONE phone, ANY ONE phone from ANY MANUFACTURER that has received support THIS late into its life. Not Samsung S series, not HTC One series, not Sony Xperia Z series, heck even the best manufacturer in update scenario, Motorola, abandons it's smartphones in 2 yrs. Don't fall into the misunderstanding that your so called tweets will get OnePlus onto its toes to give out an update to you. Do you see a phone called OnePlus X into its portfolio? It was launched in October, 2015 - 1y 6 months AFTER the launch of the One. That phone hasn't received a VoLTE update, and won't EVER. Come back from your dreamland, be a sport, either change your phone or live with the fact that One is a dead product.
Oh, and Carl is having a laugh at you right now for your efforts
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A little harsh but you are correct. No company apart from Apple supports their phones for 4 years, heck even Google stopped support for Nexus 5!
RazerSharp said:
A little harsh but you are correct. No company apart from Apple supports their phones for 4 years, heck even Google stopped support for Nexus 5!
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That's the point! Apple doesn't manufacture Android phones, had they been manufacturing androids, even they would have fallen in the same category as others!
Part of this update stopping is due to Google, they have given an official license to the OEMs to update phones for 2 years. Granted they mention 'at least 2 years', but the OEMs hardly care about at least, 2 year seems a reasonable time and hence they do not go beyond it. Due to the immense competition in Android world, there is very low margin on the android phones and OEMs hardly earn anything. So they expect you to bring business to them by buying a new smartphone, and not updating phones might motivate you to get a new one! If you compare the same with Apple, it is no secret that they have exorbitant profit margins on their iPhones and hence they can easily afford to support your phones for 4 years, because the support costs are already added to your iPhone's cost! So we should stop whining, and understand how businesses work!
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So?
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So?
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S5 was released in 2014,thus answering the question someone raised earlier about support

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