Database Users

Google Partners with Sony Ericsson to guarantee timely Android updates

{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
We're here live at Google I/O, and the folks from Mountain View have just shared something rather sweet -- a coalition of manufacturers and carriers committed to making sure their Android devices receive the very latest updates. All four major US carriers (and Vodafone) as well as HTC, Samsung, Sony Ericsson, LG and Motorola are on board, and all will guarantee you timely upgrades to the latest version of Android for eighteen months after release, provided the hardware's capable. Now that's change we can believe in.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Source: Engadget.com
I believe it's too little too late for our beloved X10's

could be a little too late but seeing how quickly manufacturers tend to do upgrades and considering the fact that the 1 and a half year old X10 IS getting Gingerbread... doesn't seem that bad, could be worse (aka Motodesk...) and, either the costumers feedback or the really awesome work devs do over here, it's nice seeing Sony Ericsson coming to an agreement of having the latest Android version on the devices

Haha. That is awesome. 18 months. Right about the time your 2 year contract is up in most places where there is carrier subsidy. Gives you about 6 months to think about what your next phone will be...otherwise you'll be stuck on an "old" OS version after that.
Still, it is pretty cool that they have an update policy in place now. All things considered, 18 months is actually decent; there could be lots of hardware improvements in addition to the OS improvements in that time, unless phone technology plateaus like computers did a while back before picking up again. But it would be hilarious if the phone companies released an update the day after the 18 months are up...

i belive these will go hand in hand with the new arc play neo and newer xperia minis!
x10 wont recieve any futher updates above 2.3.3

its to late to our x10 , we must trust in our xda dev

Note that this is a policy for this year's phones and beyond, and does not apply to our X10s. Though the fact that we are getting the GB update is awesome.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

18 months is hardly decent in the mobile business... especially in regards to Android.
18 months ago brings us back to the launch of Android Eclair. With this policy, SE would have been totally fine letting us run Android 1.6 until April 26 2011.

Terul said:
18 months is hardly decent in the mobile business... especially in regards to Android.
18 months ago brings us back to the launch of Android Eclair. With this policy, SE would have been totally fine letting us run Android 1.6 until April 26 2011.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What??
Did you read it? It is saying 18 months of getting updates as they roll out from google, meaning we would already be on gingerbread.....
18 months of guaranteed timely updates is awesome, and unparalleled so far in the world of mobile smartphones

Maybe I am confused, but I believe Gingerbread was released in December 2010. 18 months from that takes us to June 2012.
If I'm wrong please let me know.

What a huge joke. 18 months IF the hardware is capable? So what? 1 update and for some stupid reason the hardware cannot handle the next update.
Nothing will change except for later updates because now they have to provide an update within 18 months not even close to the stock release date like some manufacturers do already.
Sent from my X10i using Tapatalk

Terul said:
Maybe I am confused, but I believe Gingerbread was released in December 2010. 18 months from that takes us to June 2012.
If I'm wrong please let me know.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are not understanding what this means....
It isn't saying 18 months between updates, it is saying up until 18 months after the phone is put out you will get every update as it is released, so no waiting around for companies to release their own "custom" versions and getting left behind. Meaning we would have gotten gingerbread immediately.

Just read it over a couple times and saw where I mis-read what it said. I was assuming 18 months after release of the OS not 18 months of the release for the device.
Cheers

Willey1986 said:
What a huge joke. 18 months IF the hardware is capable? So what? 1 update and for some stupid reason the hardware cannot handle the next update.
Nothing will change except for later updates because now they have to provide an update within 18 months not even close to the stock release date like some manufacturers do already.
Sent from my X10i using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well they can't release tablet software on a smartphone that isn't the same resolution, etc.....
I think that is more so what they mean.
Also, some phones released have been released with very outdated specs (i.e.- all of SE's new lineup) so if they release a dual core specific version of android, that would be sony's fault, not googles.

This sounds like a positive move to me.

To bad they couldn't implement this sooner... they could have avoided att eol-ing this device with not one update.
Sent from my X10i TripNMiUI using XDA App

I guess that the las update for ours X10 will be the ice cream sandwich OS, it's a new universal OS designed for all android devices..

Horayken said:
I guess that the las update for ours X10 will be the ice cream sandwich OS, it's a new universal OS designed for all android devices..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, the last would be Gingerbread.
Since the X10 would not follow this policy (think this policy only applies to new phones).

compumasta said:
To bad they couldn't implement this sooner... they could have avoided att eol-ing this device with not one update.
Sent from my X10i TripNMiUI using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1000000
At&t is already losing my business. Too little way too late. Add that to billing issues and abhorrent home internet and I'll never go back.
Sent from my X10a using XDA App

Now it's just up to handset developers to stay awake & aware.
If they screw around Google will drop them like flies.

This really sound better to me. My next phone will also be Android so at least I will benefit from it then.

Android 2.3.5 coming to Xperia Arc in november?

Hi,
Today, the French telecom company SFR published the update schedule of their Android handsets and guess what? We will get android 2.3.5 very soon.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Source: Club SFR pour android

You'd think they would have thought of a better name than "Comingo".

XperienceD said:
You'd think they would have thought of a better name than "Comingo".
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry or the error! I just post it and I cannot edit the title of the post now
Edit: problem fixed

2.3.4 in the UK now would be nice first!

bigyinn said:
2.3.4 in the UK now would be nice first!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol, hear in south east asia, we already got 2.3.4 since 20 september

oh~~that is good news~~~but is it tested?stable or not?

How should we test an unreleased firmware?
But SE's stock firmwares are stable normally
Sent from my iPad 2 using Tapatalk

SE are really doing great in this area these days. Good on them!

Hope they release the firmware with the kernel sources too. So DoomKernel can work on 2.3.5. later
Hhehehe
Sent from my LT15i using xda premium

If they will release 2.3.5 in November... when will they release ICS ?
now I can see a pattern of a new version update in nearly 3 months... it was 2.3.2 when launched and later in early Q3 updated to 2.3.3, in late Q3 they started the 2.3.4 update... and now in Q4 they're preparing the 2.3.5 update...
I just hope they can bring ICS very soon.. I mean like early Q1, January or February maximum...

Well I think they will release it next year but not sure when..
Well you know SE slow at updates but what they make is a piece of masterpiece.
So I think they r working at their best
Sent from my LT15i using xda premium

chitose_ndy said:
Well you know SE slow at updates but what they make is a piece of masterpiece.
So I think they r working at their best
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1, we are waiting SE cook their ice cream sandwich into a banquet

jason_jiang said:
+1, we are waiting SE cook their ice cream sandwich into a banquet
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hell yeah
I have compared android phones.
And I just like arc the best.
Arc just have the perfection.
Even my friend who bought a samsung galaxy S 2, after he see my arc, he regrets buying samsung.
He said arc just look better and look perfect.
Sent from my LT15i using xda premium

Sure can't wait for Ice Cream Sandwich for Arc

chitose_ndy said:
Hell yeah
I have compared android phones.
And I just like arc the best.
Arc just have the perfection.
Even my friend who bought a samsung galaxy S 2, after he see my arc, he regrets buying samsung.
He said arc just look better and look perfect.
Sent from my LT15i using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lols... cant agree with you more mate.
in term of design SE the best, 90/100 for spec, but with more function compared to others.
i spent almost 2 and a half hour deciding on buying my arc...
tested every hi spec samsung and htc phone in the store, well this is i love the most.
only 1 thing i regret the most,
the new arc s came out just after 2 weeks i bought my arc.
sony did claim mentioned arc the flagship product and the ultimate xperia smartphone.
btw, is there any change log for the upcoming gb 2.3.5?

nujhum said:
lols... cant agree with you more mate.
in term of design SE the best, 90/100 for spec, but with more function compared to others.
i spent almost 2 and a half hour deciding on buying my arc...
tested every hi spec samsung and htc phone in the store, well this is i love the most.
only 1 thing i regret the most,
the new arc s came out just after 2 weeks i bought my arc.
sony did claim mentioned arc the flagship product and the ultimate xperia smartphone.
btw, is there any change log for the upcoming gb 2.3.5?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah that's the thing man,
I bought arc and then few weeks later the arc s came out..
So sad
No change log I think..
Sent from my LT15i using xda premium

nujhum said:
lols... cant agree with you more mate.
in term of design SE the best, 90/100 for spec, but with more function compared to others.
i spent almost 2 and a half hour deciding on buying my arc...
tested every hi spec samsung and htc phone in the store, well this is i love the most.
only 1 thing i regret the most,
the new arc s came out just after 2 weeks i bought my arc.
sony did claim mentioned arc the flagship product and the ultimate xperia smartphone.
btw, is there any change log for the upcoming gb 2.3.5?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
that is not a problem, the only diference between the arc and arc s is a same procesor overclocked

Important

Hi all Xperia 2011 users we will some lose cm support. We maybe won't get update to 4.2 eaven.
So all good developer buying new phones. I think it time to make own team of developers to make cm roms for 4.2 plus...
What you think?
Sent from my LT15i using xda app-developers app

So true n1kolaa. I've seen your request on Twitter for porting cm roms by nAa, whose work is actually incredible. I came from x10 mini pro community and I was one of the testers of minicm roms. We have two options as of now.
1) request devs like nobodyatall to start supporting our devices as they are pretty similar. Correct me if I'm wrong. (Arc, arcS, pro)
2) form a new team for ourselves and start developing with help from recognized devs.
Our forms lack recognized developers and I dont understand why. The community I came from which is x10 mini pro is still getting huge support and it might even get a fully working 4.2 where as 2011 Xperia's are struggling to get it. No offense to anyone.
On otherside lets hope we get 4.2 port by fxp :thumbup:
Cheers.
Sent from my MK16i using xda app-developers app

We should get XDA mods to merge Xperia Ray, Arc, Arc S, Neo and Neo V forums. Those devices are very similar, and it will be much easier to swap ideas and new features.

sdk16420 said:
We should get XDA mods to merge Xperia Ray, Arc, Arc S, Neo and Neo V forums. Those devices are very similar, and it will be much easier to swap ideas and new features.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good idea

{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
*accessories

sdk16420 said:
We should get XDA mods to merge Xperia Ray, Arc, Arc S, Neo and Neo V forums. Those devices are very similar, and it will be much easier to swap ideas and new features.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree. It's working out well with the NXT phones so I wouldn't see why it wouldn't work here.
Sent from my LT15a using xda-developers app

Nothing is endless. Don't expect all the developers to provide lifetime support for some old device.

Someguyfromhell said:
Nothing is endless. Don't expect all the developers to provide lifetime support for some old device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Very true. I've pointed this out in the thread with the jelly bean petition. Nothing lasts forever as you said. Everyone wants to upgrade to newer phones with newer technologies and whatnot. There's a reason why the X10 didn't get ICS. Other than probably a couple hardware limitations, Sony wants people to move onto bigger and better devices. It's also a marketing strategy. If they weren't releasing phones every year then they would have the time to upgrade older devices as that would be their focus.
Sent from my LT15a using xda-developers app

DdcCabuslay said:
Very true. I've pointed this out in the thread with the jelly bean petition. Nothing lasts forever as you said. Everyone wants to upgrade to newer phones with newer technologies and whatnot. There's a reason why the X10 didn't get ICS. Other than probably a couple hardware limitations, Sony wants people to move onto bigger and better devices. It's also a marketing strategy. If they weren't releasing phones every year then they would have the time to upgrade older devices as that would be their focus.
Sent from my LT15a using xda-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's totally unrelated. FXP doesn't earn money if Sony sells more 2012 phones...
Developer support ends because there aren't enough users to justify the time spent working on ROM's. As the FXP team pointed out elsewhere, they would probably have to create an 3.x kernel from scratch, which will take 6 months. In 6 months, the number of people using their 2011 Xperia daily will probably be half or less of that today. I notice activity on the forum declining rapidly since this summer.

sdk16420 said:
That's totally unrelated. FXP doesn't earn money if Sony sells more 2012 phones...
Developer support ends because there aren't enough users to justify the time spent working on ROM's. As the FXP team pointed out elsewhere, they would probably have to create an 3.x kernel from scratch, which will take 6 months. In 6 months, the number of people using their 2011 Xperia daily will probably be half or less of that today. I notice activity on the forum declining rapidly since this summer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
:$
Well I thought I would put my opinion there. I wasn't talking about FXP and devs but more about Sony in general
Sorry
Sent from my LT15a using xda-developers app

Sorry, nothing against that, in fact I agree with you, but Ithought you were talking about FXP, it seemed a bit unrelated

sdk16420 said:
*accessories
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you put this forward to the relevant People?, if not come support it HERE
EDIT: Has you may have already seen...
NotATreoFan said:
We are working on a redesign of all Sony forums currently, and anticipate being done within a few weeks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
...so will be interesting to see what they come up with.

I've sent a PM to diestarbucks 2 days ago, he has forwarded it to the relevant mods. Awaiting reply.

I'm up for it, anything to make it last just a little longer

BTW, maybe it would be better to add Neo L development to Xperia Play forums. Neo L is kind of a weird add-on now, as ROM's for Neo are not simply compatible with it.
New version.

sdk16420 said:
New version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's better. :good:

Sony's update regularity...

Basically, I change phones every year. When a new iPhone comes out, I get that but when it's a 'S' year, I get an Android instead. It's an 'S' year and I am considering the Z5 Premium. Before my iPhone 6, I was using the LG G2...
I know it's up to the vendors to release the latest updates and the Nexus line always have the latest Android. My question is, how is Sony in this regard? Do they generally take a long time to push out a new update? Or are they normally quite quick?

They update their products regularly. As i recall after initial release if there's a bug it only takes 2 to 3 mos to update problem after that new version of android released i think bet 3 to 6 mos. But great stability issues if ever theres a bug for new version 1 to 3 mos it will addressed by sony. As of now z series updated up to this date. This is based on experience on sony sony user since xperia s.
Sent from my D6503 using XDA Free mobile app

I wanted to try this phone, but updates are so far behind. I sold my Z3 because of the lack of updates.
Sent from my ONE A2005 using Tapatalk

Updates to sony is about 2 months late than samsung
But it is very stable.
Sony devices are well supported by custom rom developers.
If we considered branded phones sony is only 2nd to Motorola in terms of custom rom development.
I mean if we consider all sony phones.
Not only Z series

I think that Sony updates quite well. And what is great about them is that they really make sure that the update is stable.
I remember the whole Lollipop fiasco last december when Nexus and Samsung got their latest update and it was just one big mess.

Well i dont know for others but sony update was a very stable update what's the point of updating fast and regularly if there are so many issues and problem if they can do one time fix.
Sent from my D6503 using XDA Free mobile app

sacredsoul said:
Basically, I change phones every year. When a new iPhone comes out, I get that but when it's a 'S' year, I get an Android instead. It's an 'S' year and I am considering the Z5 Premium. Before my iPhone 6, I was using the LG G2...
I know it's up to the vendors to release the latest updates and the Nexus line always have the latest Android. My question is, how is Sony in this regard? Do they generally take a long time to push out a new update? Or are they normally quite quick?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sony are definitely a growing brand, listening to consumers etc.
They're community testing the marshmallow concept build on the Z3 atm which is a novel approach as only Microsoft have done similar in the past.
I think updates will be more regular.
Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk

Jygar said:
Sony are definitely a growing brand, listening to consumers etc.
They're community testing the marshmallow concept build on the Z3 atm which is a novel approach as only Microsoft have done similar in the past.
I think updates will be more regular.
Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ah a bit late now. Already got the Nexus 6P

sacredsoul said:
Ah a bit late now. Already got the Nexus 6P
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hope you have better luck than me, I had 3 all of them with screen or build issues.
Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk

Jygar said:
Hope you have better luck than me, I had 3 all of them with screen or build issues.
Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh mine seems all good. Of course, I didn't go and see every nook and cranny to make sure it's 100% perfect though. But the major parts all look fine to me.

alhadee12 said:
I wanted to try this phone, but updates are so far behind. I sold my Z3 because of the lack of updates.
Sent from my ONE A2005 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't own a Z3 but I'm pretty sure it has gotten a LOT of updates and more to come.

itsjustJOH said:
I don't own a Z3 but I'm pretty sure it has gotten a LOT of updates and more to come.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The phone didn't get many updates and when it did they dealt solely with Sony and not so much Android based updates.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

alhadee12 said:
The phone didn't get many updates and when it did they dealt solely with Sony and not so much Android based updates.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The phone came out with 4.4, got updated to 5.0 and then 5.1. It's also gonna get 6.0. It has all the Android versions since 4.4. The rest are minor updates. I don't get how much is "many" for you.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

itsjustJOH said:
The phone came out with 4.4, got updated to 5.0 and then 5.1. It's also gonna get 6.0. It has all the Android versions since 4.4. The rest are minor updates. I don't get how much is "many" for you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Honestly, it doesn't matter at this point I sold the phone. Also, the phone I had through T-Mobile never received the 5.0 update before I sold it. At that point "many" turns out to be a lot based upon your post.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

alhadee12 said:
Honestly, it doesn't matter at this point I sold the phone. Also, the phone I had through T-Mobile never received the 5.0 update before I sold it. At that point "many" turns out to be a lot based upon your post.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well you bought the carrier locked phone, don't blame Sony for that.

itsjustJOH said:
Well you bought the carrier locked phone, don't blame Sony for that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not blaming anyone and I'm not sure how you concluded I was blaming Sony. I made the conscious choice to purchase the phone and made the same choice to sell it. If I ever decide to purchase on again, I'll get the unlocked version.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
---------- Post added at 05:53 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:51 AM ----------
itsjustJOH said:
Well you bought the carrier locked phone, don't blame Sony for that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This was my original post, "I wanted to try this phone, but updates are so far behind. I sold my Z3 because of the lack of updates."
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

alhadee12 said:
This was my original post, "I wanted to try this phone, but updates are so far behind. I sold my Z3 because of the lack of updates."
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You just implied that the updates on Sony phones "are so far behind" because of your experience with one phone that was apparently carrier locked but you did not state it on your original post. Even if you did not mean that, the construction of your sentences does otherwise.

itsjustJOH said:
You just implied that the updates on Sony phones "are so far behind" because of your experience with one phone that was apparently carrier locked but you did not state it on your original post. Even if you did not mean that, the construction of your sentences does otherwise.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I didn't imply anything, you assumed nor did I say Sony phones. I referred to the phone I had and my sentence structure if off in your opinion should lead to questions not sweeping characterization of my statement. What's your point and are you taking the position to be the defender of all things Sony? [emoji23]
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

alhadee12 said:
I didn't imply anything, you assumed nor did I say Sony phones. I referred to the phone I had and my sentence structure if off in your opinion should lead to questions not sweeping characterization of my statement. What's your point and are you taking the position to be the defender of all things Sony? [emoji23]
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My point is you that wrote something that seemed something negative about Sony's updates because of your experience of one phone (that is again apparently carrier locked) which should not be because of how much they update their phones, I proved it and that's when you said it's from T-Mobile, you defended your original post and I merely pointed out how it's because of your sentence structure that made it seem like you were stereotyping all Sony phones. I reacted because I know how many updates the Z3 has received despite not owning it, and, yes, I'm a Sony fan.

itsjustJOH said:
My point is you that wrote something that seemed something negative about Sony's updates because of your experience of one phone (that is again apparently carrier locked) which should not be because of how much they update their phones, I proved it and that's when you said it's from T-Mobile, you defended your original post and I merely pointed out how it's because of your sentence structure that made it seem like you were stereotyping all Sony phones. I reacted because I know how many updates the Z3 has received despite not owning it, and, yes, I'm a Sony fan.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not a negative post, its simply a fact as it relates to the phone I purchased. Your point is correct when you started, "because of your experience". Your proof is that the carrier version doesn't receive updates like the international version.
So, to that point my position is correct to have sold the phone. It's not that I dislike Sony. You have to stop assuming and start asking questions for clarification before defending a position that needs no defense.
We're all entitled to our opinions based upon the products we purchase. Also, if you don't own one please don't assume all models receive updates. Just a thought. [emoji56]
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

Confirmed!! 7.0 update by Sony

It didn't need an announcement probably, but Sony has confirmed its plans to release (no date given though) Android 7.0 update for Xperia Z5, among other devices.
-- Source

I hope for a new UI from Xperia X family and some new feautres from 7.0 like notification direct reply and multi-window view.

All i want is new status bar and multiscreen.
Sent from my E6653 using Tapatalk

Oh God, I don't think I'm ready to get on the hype-train just yet. Just like it's too early to get excited about Christmas

wouldn't expect to see it till at least April next year going by previous updates by Sony

No z3? Thats interesting.. Then why did they release the previews on it?.. It's f***ing stupid. Just like last year with the z,z1 series -.-

Honestly? I'd like to receive early updates following the Google patch cycle. Constantly.

I saw somewhere (forget where it was) that considering how fast (or slow) Sony update their devices, roll-out will probably start by February 2017. It also says Samsung will do by January-February of the same year.
Sad. I want it now. Lol

ricodredd said:
Oh God, I don't think I'm ready to get on the hype-train just yet. Just like it's too early to get excited about Christmas
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol, that is about when we should expect it
---------- Post added at 03:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:08 PM ----------
G4B33 said:
No z3? Thats interesting.. Then why did they release the previews on it?.. It's f***ing stupid. Just like last year with the z,z1 series -.-
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Welcome to Sony, one of the reasons my next phone will not be Sony unless they wake up an provide an updated phone that is up to specs or better thn it's competitors at the same/similar price point
---------- Post added at 03:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:11 PM ----------
iain26 said:
wouldn't expect to see it till at least April next year going by previous updates by Sony
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually you are probably closer

All I want is a fast camera with no shutter lag or whatsoever.

mugglearchitect said:
I saw somewhere (forget where it was) that considering how fast (or slow) Sony update their devices, roll-out will probably start by February 2017. It also says Samsung will do by January-February of the same year.
Sad. I want it now. Lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is one of the main reasons I'm planning on ditching Sony when I get my next phone, this and increasingly poor build quality.

expect 7.0 upodate for Sony around late november. Since this yearly android update is released earlier and OEMs had acces to the code much sooner thus we'll get the update sooner. You guys are way too pessimistic about this

we're pessimistic because we know what Sony are like with updates and doubt there going to change now

Guess what guys, they get ready for it...
Xperia Home just rolled an update. Read the log.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Xperia Z5 E6653 w/ Tapatalk

ciprianmp said:
Guess what guys, they get ready for it...
Xperia Home just rolled an update. Read the log.
Xperia Z5 E6653 w/ Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Considering the number of devices to get this update is really small, I assume we should get is very soon and definitely BEFORE the christmas.
Otherwise it will be another shame for Sony...

Wasted1300RPEU said:
expect 7.0 upodate for Sony around late november. Since this yearly android update is released earlier and OEMs had acces to the code much sooner thus we'll get the update sooner. You guys are way too pessimistic about this
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
decomposed said:
Considering the number of devices to get this update is really small, I assume we should get is very soon and definitely BEFORE the christmas.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hang on a sec...we're not pessimistic - we're not delusional either. It's almost September now. What's the latest Z5 security patch level? Oh yeah, 1st April. So "wee little" security patches are 5 months behind but you guys reckon the entire Operating System, Android Nougat will drop within the next 4 months?!?
Dream on guys. Wish you were right but...

I preferible stability over speed. I didnt have a single crash or reboot with z5 sibce i bought las year
Enviado desde mi Sony Xperia Z5 utilizando Tapatalk

ricodredd said:
Hang on a sec...we're not pessimistic - we're not delusional either. It's almost September now. What's the latest Z5 security patch level? Oh yeah, 1st April. So "wee little" security patches are 5 months behind but you guys reckon the entire Operating System, Android Nougat will drop within the next 4 months?!?
Dream on guys. Wish you were right but...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Admittedly, Sony update is not keeping up with Security patches from Google, unless they include it in a bigger bugfix/major upgrade release. So I wouldn't take that as a reference.
We were all disappointed for the late MM release by Sony, but I don't think N will bring so many dramatic changes from M, as M brought from L.
Also, I don't think they have a flagship series replacement on their agenda until February, a it happened during MM preparation.
Let's just stay optimistic.
Xperia Z5 E6653 w/ Tapatalk

After the time it took for Marshmallow I hope Sony can get it out by Christmas, there is no excuse anymore to not release an update when Google release previews themselves. This isn't ICS which was more or less a complete overhaul of Android.
This is a minor update in comparison to ICS, Marshmallow was minor but took half a year for Sony to roll out. Hope Sony can get 7.0 out by November, I expect perhaps one more update after that before support is ended, but by then I will probably get a new phone.

G4B33 said:
No z3? Thats interesting.. Then why did they release the previews on it?.. It's f***ing stupid. Just like last year with the z,z1 series -.-
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LLabtoofer said HTC M8 and other Snapdragon 800/801 devices won't get 7.0 as Qualcomm will no longer support their drivers. I think it is likely Sony will bring features from the previews to the Z3, but it won't be the true 7.0, just the developer build - the same goes for other devices like the Nexus 5 and OnePlus One.