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** DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT A DEVELOPER. I DO THIS AS A HOBBY AND SHARE MY FINDINGS IN CASE SOMEONE ELSE FINDS THEM USEFUL. **
** THIS WORKED ON MY DEVICE BUT IT MAY NOT WORK ON YOURS. APPLY AT YOUR OWN RISK **
Background:
Tablet Z is an amazing device. I have had a number of different Android devices with comparable specs but nothing has come close to this one in overall performance, durability, build, and stability. The question that I did not find an answer for and made me write this info piece is: what is the best stock ROM for this tablet that can offer the best overall stability and power consumption. Note that a lot of what follows are matters of opinion and personal preferences and you should probably tweak based on your specific needs. So first some basics.
Basics:
There is an empirical finding that the best performance is achieved from the ROMs that are available about six months to a year after the release of any given device and here is the justification. The device is initially shipped with the Android version available at the time of the release. This initial version is invariably buggy because the fast design cycles of these things do not allow a comprehensive test drive by the vendor. So the consumers report the bugs, they get patched, and about 6 months later everything is wrapped into the next version of Android and pushed as an update. This second ROM release is much more stable than the first one but still lacking a few things here and there, which brings us to the next major ROM that will fix most everything.
By this time we are 6 months to a year into the life of the product and the market is now seeing other devices with higher processing power and better specs. The Android releases at any given point in time are tweaked towards the expected performance of the devices that are available at that time. So the next update for your now-more-than-a-year-old device will have nicer features but it is geared towards other devices that are faster and better than yours. So now you upgrade to the third release and you will find that while all the initial bugs are gone the device is laggy and the battery goes down faster than it used to. Most devices don't have a straightforward procedure to downgrade to an older version (at least for the common user) and therefore you will just write this off as your device being too old and slow and then you will be likely convinced by a Sony salesperson to buy the next generation tablet and that is the end of that.
The key is to identify that sweet spot where the OS is stable and fast and tweak the performance there and NOT upgrade anymore. Let me say something about software upgrade while I have your attention. I have sadly found that a lot of people upgrade their phone/tablet OS without really knowing why they do it. Sometimes it almost looks like a fashion trend that since my neighbor is running his/her phone on Kitkat I must upgrade from Jellybean too. This often results in a slowdown of your system and sometimes even makes it impossible to do cool stuff such as rooting your device, because new updates close loopholes and vulnerabilities.
Xperia Tablet Z Stock Roms:
Before we get into that, let's mention the non-stock Roms such as AOSP and CM and their derivatives. There may be a compelling argument for certain cases where for example the vendor either heavily loads the device with bloatware that is difficult to remove or a custom Rom is needed to improve power or increase the performance by overclocking and whatnot. This is very true of some Samsung models with great hardware that are actually degenerated to slow devices with over-bloating and a little help from possessive phone operators like AT&T. However, this is not particularly true for Sony, or at least not yet. The Sony bloat is minimal and easy to remove and what Sony packs with the OS, such as multi-window, remote control, and Bravia engine, are in fact quite useful especially if you are using the device in a Sony ecosystem like with a big screen TV. Besides, Sony is very open-source friendly so there are not a whole lot of locked down features that you may need a custom ROM to get around. So I will limit this discussion to Sony's official Rom releases.
XTZ was initially shipped with 10.1.C.0.344 Android 4.1.2 in the US. Within a few months they upgraded it and if you like most people bought your tablet in the summer of 2013 it probably came with 10.1.C.0.370. This was to fix a touch sensitivity problem and improve WiFi. No update however is complete without limiting the ability of the user to root the device so Sony patched a vulnerability that allows the method of rooting you find inside the menus of Flashtool. Soon another vulnerability was discovered and a piece of code was written by Doomslord which would remain the only safe way to root XTZ until Towelroot was born. The update also removed the ability to choose the number of active cores, which was not the end of the world of course.
This release arguably has the best user interface which located the important touch keys on the bottom left and right sides of the screen, which is easy to operate when you grab the tablet with two hands. However, it had a few performance issues. For example, adding a weather widget would introduce a visible lag when swiping the home screen. It didn;t take long before users started nagging on different forums about how they are not running the latest Android version and how Sony should release it ASAP,... and Sony did.
Android 4.2.2 (10.3.1.C.0.136) removed the nice tablet UI. Soft button keys were now at the bottom center of the display with nothing on the left and right sides, which makes it awkward to grab the tablet with two hands and operate these keys at the same time. The notification area that was previously on the bottom right hand side would now be relocated to the top banner which resulted in a loss of screen real estate, and this pissed off a lot of users including yours truly. In all fairness it was not Sony's fault because this was a decision made by Google to unify tablet and phone interfaces beyond 4.2.2. Sony did their best to give something back (Quick Settings option in top notification bar) and mitigate the lost screen area (Semi-transparent bar in lockscreen). Then there were added features like multi-user support, ability to change the length of “preview time” after shooting a snap from camera, widgets on both homescreen and lockscreen,Video Unlimited movie app integration, updated media apps, my Xperia app to track the tablet in case it is lost, and official support 64 GB SD card.
The initial 4.3 release (10.4.B.0.577) changed the UI to a white theme that looks a lot like Xperia Z1 and Z Ultra: new improved smart camera app and new Xperia wallpapers (like Xperia Z1). A cool feature was added that allows the downloading of themes which change the navigation bar and status bar colors, and the soft keys icons as well. New keyboard app was added with one-hand keyboard settings. Also, a Windows Tethering option made it possible to pair the tablet with Windows 8.1. All welcome options which made most of us get over the grudge caused by the removal of the Tablet UI. Screen was calibrated for a brighter display and restricted profiles settings added more control of the multi-user feature.
The best feature which went unnoticed by many was the new version of Battery STAMINA Mode. Not that the older one needed any serious make-over but this one offered even a longer battery life. By now, almost all the lag observed in earlier versions were gone. For example, the weather widget would no longer self-update until the swiping was complete and this provided a significant smoothness in home display transitions. Finally, the 4.3 update 10.4.1.B.0.109 reduced the display flickering, improved battery life, shortened shutdown times, and fixed a problem which made it possible to use Bluetooth without losing WiFi.
Sometime in May of 2014 Sony released the long-awaited 4.4.2 Kitkat update (10.5.A.0.230) and this was when things started to go south. Sure, there where enhancements in camera app, ability to add emojis to messages, screenshots via the power menu, updates to Email, Calendar, and other apps, and good looking live wallpapers. But nothing could hide the fact that the tablet was now visibly slower and the battery would drain much faster. Sony admitted that the battery drain is a real problem and traced it to a buggy version of the Google services, which the user could uninstall or disable but that didn't make the update any faster.
The fact is, Xperia Tablet Z has a snapdragon S4 running at 1.5GHz, which from an antutu score perspective sets it at around the 20-21k mark. For comparison consider the Tablet Z2 with a 2.3GHz Snapdragon 801 with an antutu score in the 35000 range and that is really the type of system that the Sony Kitkat update should run on. That's why the tablet becomes so sluggish after the kitkat upgrade. The transitions are visibly slow and even if you disable live wallpapers and other things the settings menus will remain slow. In fact the antutu score after this upgrade drops sharply to around 18000.
Sony eventually released Kitkat 4.4.4 with 10.5.1.A.0.283 in late summer of 2014 and updated that a month or two later with a limited release of 10.5.1.A.0.292 in Nordic countries. These update are more fluid than 4.4.2 with much less lag in different programs. All Kitkat releases have been plagued by a sever battery drain due to a malfunctioning of Google Play services, which is resolved if you update this app to 5.2.08 after the firmware installation. 4.4.4 is still slower in Antutu scores compared to 4.3.
And the winner is...
4.4.4, followed by 4.3.
With the latest Kitkat update (4.4.4) I found that after patching the Google services and minimal debloating the tablet will last 78 days (more than two and half months) in standby. That is pretty impressive. See the screenshots (under Attached Thumbnails). So if you decide to go with 4.4.4, to get the most out of your battery:
1- Upgrade Google Play services to 5.2.08.
2- Go to settings:
Wifi -> Advanced -> Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep -> Never
Wifi -> Advanced -> Scanning always available -> off
Wifi -> Advanced -> Wifi optimization -> on
Power management -> Stamina Mode on and queue background data
3- Disable Google+ and Hangouts (and play store, if you don't use it). I suggest turning off both "Remotely locate" and "allow remote lock" options under Android device manager in Google settings.
4- Uninstall (via Titanium backup) or remove from /system/app and priv-app SonyEntrance.apk and UpdateCenter.apk. If your tablet is wifi only do the same for SemcTelephonyProvider.apk, Stk.apk, phone-usage.apk, and SemcPhone.apk.
The 4.3 update 10.4.1.B.0.109 provides a good battery life too. In standby it can last about 55 days without a recharge (see 1.jpg and 2.jpg). In camparision, the 4.4.2 release lasts about 40-45 days under similar testing conditions. To install 4.3 you can either use this long procedure: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2772943 which gives you a pre-rooted 4.3, with the added benefit of a nice recovery image, or flash a stock ftf and root it with towelroot. Either way you need to learn and use flashtool because this update is no longer available through Sony's update channels. If you decide to go with 4.4.4, to get the most out of your battery:
1- Root and disable non essential programs either using Titanium backup or other methods that require a knowledge of the terminal emulator. On an SGP311 For 4.3 what you typically disable is the following (the list is different for the LTE version!):
B2bCustInstaller, com.sonyericsson.startupflagservice, Crackle, Facebook, FBiX Post Viewer, Gmail (and use the stock Email client if you have want to check your gmail), Google Play Books/Games/Magazines/Movies/Music, Google+ and Hangout, Let's start PSM, McAfee Security, Mobile Data, Mobile Network, Configuration, Netflix, POBox Touch (unless you use Japanese keyboard), Reader, Sim Lock, Sim Toolkit, Social Engine, Socialife, Twitter, Video Unlimited, Wisepilot (which doesn't work anyway!), Xperia AppShare, Xperia Calendar Sync, Xperia Friends' music, Xperia Music Likes, Xperia Social Engine Photos/Sharing (all of them), Xperia Chinese keyboard, Xperia with Facebook and Twitter.
2- Then go to settings:
Wifi -> Advanced -> Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep -> Never
Power management -> Stamina Mode on.
I tried programs like Juice Defender but it seemed that in the presence of Sony's Stamina mode none of that is necessary.
One last detail. As you can see in the picture mobile data is still burning 3% although I froze/disabled it in Titanium. The reason is that while freezing an app prevents it from starting at boot-up, the binary is still in the storage and other apps can still invoke it. If you want that portion to go down to zero you will need to uninstall the app in Titanium (or delete/rename the app to disable it, which requires knowledge of the terminal emulator.)
Update: Sony released 5.0.2 with 10.6.A.0.454 in late spring of 2015 and 5.1.1 in September. The standby battery life is nowhere near the latest 4.4.4 or 4.3.
So that is it folks. Give it a try and see it for yourself. At the end of the day, regardless of the firmware, this is an awesome tablet which will still be around after all of its peers are gone and forgotten.
Thanks for your reply. In general i agree with you that the most stable and responsive (fluid) was 10.4.1.B.0.109 on SGP311/312 and 10.4.1.B.0.101 on SGP321. However you can perform fresh install of 10.5.A.0.230 KitKat, make some performance-wise adjustments/remove-freeze bloatware and you will have practically the same performance. As i did it, i can't distinguish between 4.4 and 4.3 in performance at least visually, however it shows a little bit less score in Antutu, 21500 for JB, 20800 for my adjusted KK, but it doesn't really matter.
This is a great post. Thank you. I noticed the performance since installing KitKat has been sluggish too. I haven't tried optimizing it much, haven't had time, but I'm going to try that before downgrading to 4.3. The animations and transitions are so sluggish its annoying. Makes me want a new tablet to be honest heheh.
Great post! Although I'm still loving 4.4. I really missed immersive mode since I've had Nexus phones.. Anyway after fixing the settings app the other 'glitches' in kitkat weren't noticeable. Battery life's awesome since most of the not needed things are disabled/uninstalled.
I get 3-4 days with moderate to heavy use with about 9-10 hours of screen on time. It's really an indoor tablet for me so the brightness can be as low as minimum with no impact on visibility.
I bought my tablet without thinking 6 months ago but I honestly have 0 regrets. It's a truly amazing multimedia device.
Too bad Cyanogenmod 11 is in a poor state with still buggy nightlies and no proper milestone releases...
And I agree Kitkat feels a bit sluggish on the tablet, especially when you compare it to a Snapdragon 801 phone.
Dzhedaj said:
Too bad Cyanogenmod 11 is in a poor state with still buggy nightlies and no proper milestone releases...
And I agree Kitkat feels a bit sluggish on the tablet, especially when you compare it to a Snapdragon 801 phone.
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Snapdragon itself it a way way more faster chip. Also Sony don't really bother with OS optimizations for old devices.
As per my opinion since i updated .233 update via flashtool that Lag and sluggishness is gone perfectly
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-tablet-z/general/ftf-4-4-10-5-0-233-sgp321-3at-t2789187
Alongwith a little mod with beats audio improves the internal speakers upto 100dbi more who feels tab internal speaker volume is low.
Update to .233 and enjoy the tab to its full capacity
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Thanks for the write-up.
I'm a noob that's researched this to death, and this adds some clarity to whats becoming more murky as I read.
Will probably try to optimize 4.4.2 1st before attempting your link (I'm hoping a couple of other posters on this thread can point me in the right direction - question forthcoming but could you clarify 'or flash a stock ftf and root it with towelroot'? Sorry for the noob question, but 'root after flash' and 'what specific stock ftf' has me lost. Thanks
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Rootk1t said:
Thanks for your reply. In general i agree with you that the most stable and responsive (fluid) was 10.4.1.B.0.109 on SGP311/312 and 10.4.1.B.0.101 on SGP321. However you can perform fresh install of 10.5.A.0.230 KitKat, make some performance-wise adjustments/remove-freeze bloatware and you will have practically the same performance. As i did it, i can't distinguish between 4.4 and 4.3 in performance at least visually, however it shows a little bit less score in Antutu, 21500 for JB, 20800 for my adjusted KK, but it doesn't really matter.
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Do you have a link to the method by which you optimize?
Thanks
gmore1 said:
Thanks for the write-up.
I'm a noob that's researched this to death, and this adds some clarity to whats becoming more murky as I read.
Will probably try to optimize 4.4.2 1st before attempting your link (I'm hoping a couple of other posters on this thread can point me in the right direction - question forthcoming but could you clarify 'or flash a stock ftf and root it with towelroot'? Sorry for the noob question, but 'root after flash' and 'what specific stock ftf' has me lost. Thanks
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Do you have a link to the method by which you optimize?
Thanks
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i installed 4.4.4 which is already optimized by sony. Antutu benchmark +2000 scores comparing to 4.4.2:victory:
Rootk1t said:
i installed 4.4.4 which is already optimized by sony. Antutu benchmark +2000 scores comparing to 4.4.2:victory:
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You've given me even more homework, but I greatly appreciate the response
I currently have a stock (unlocked/unrooted) Tab Z and if I understood the 4.4.4 posts I've read, the best method to keep root(towelroot for 4.4.2+older) and files is install via OTA which requires an unlocked bootloader, which requires a code from Sony so.... a brief summary of steps to keep my unit as 'open/versatile' as possible here would be....
1:Get code from Sony
2:Unlock bootloader
3:Install Flashtool and root via towelroot (the order here is not important?)
4:Back up files
5:Install 4.4.4 via OTA
Done?
And then I'm left to be able to move back and/or install older firmware?
If this is a PITA to answer, I understand - appreciate any help
gmore1 said:
You've given me even more homework, but I greatly appreciate the response
I currently have a stock (unlocked/unrooted) Tab Z and if I understood the 4.4.4 posts I've read, the best method to keep root(towelroot for 4.4.2+older) and files is install via OTA which requires an unlocked bootloader, which requires a code from Sony so.... a brief summary of steps to keep my unit as 'open/versatile' as possible here would be....
1:Get code from Sony
2:Unlock bootloader
3:Install Flashtool and root via towelroot (the order here is not important?)
4:Back up files
5:Install 4.4.4 via OTA
Done?
And then I'm left to be able to move back and/or install older firmware?
If this is a PITA to answer, I understand - appreciate any help
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Be AWARE !
Before unlocking bootloader BE SURE TO BACK UP YOUR TA PARTITION OR YOU WILL LOOSE DRM LICENCE KEYS FOREVER !!!
Google "Sony DRM TA backup" to find more information.
gmore1 said:
You've given me even more homework, but I greatly appreciate the response
I currently have a stock (unlocked/unrooted) Tab Z and if I understood the 4.4.4 posts I've read, the best method to keep root(towelroot for 4.4.2+older) and files is install via OTA which requires an unlocked bootloader, which requires a code from Sony so.... a brief summary of steps to keep my unit as 'open/versatile' as possible here would be....
1:Get code from Sony
2:Unlock bootloader
3:Install Flashtool and root via towelroot (the order here is not important?)
4:Back up files
5:Install 4.4.4 via OTA
Done?
And then I'm left to be able to move back and/or install older firmware?
If this is a PITA to answer, I understand - appreciate any help
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no! no need to unlock bootloader to root device and get OTA.
Rootk1t said:
no! no need to unlock bootloader to root device and get OTA.
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GretaLewd said:
Be AWARE !
Before unlocking bootloader BE SURE TO BACK UP YOUR TA PARTITION OR YOU WILL LOOSE DRM LICENCE KEYS FOREVER !!!
Google "Sony DRM TA backup" to find more information.
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OK.
I won't be 'developing' anytime soon, so no need to unlock. I just thought in order to access anything newer than 4.4.2 OTA from Sony would require it.
Thank you both and sorry again for the ?'s, but this has been WAY more involved than the days of rooting my Photon
Will continue my research on OTA 4.4.4.
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OK,
No 4.4.4 for SGP312 yet so I guess just be patient and make sure I'm rooted and backed up?
Any link for optimizing in the meantime still appreciated - many searches and I can't find anything.
gmore1 said:
No 4.4.4 for SGP312 yet so I guess just be patient and make sure I'm rooted and backed up?
Any link for optimizing in the meantime still appreciated - many searches and I can't find anything.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...oot-4-4-4-kitkat-sgp311-10-5-1-0-283-t2875885
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-tablet-z/development/root-sp321-ftf-10-5-1-0-283-t2873377
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...oot-4-4-4-kitkat-sgp311-10-5-1-0-283-t2875885
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-tablet-z/development/root-sp321-ftf-10-5-1-0-283-t2873377
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OK
I was aware of 4.4.4 via FT and PC, but based on a post I had read in another thread, thought only OTA would allow one to maintain root after 4.4.2...
I should have read further into that thread.
This should do it -Thanks again Rootk1t
Can I just clarify... in the first post, it says "On an SGP311 what you typically enable is the following..." Do I take it that should say disable, not enable?
I also noticed that I don't have B2bCustInstaller, but I do have B2bCertInstaller and B2bCustomSetupWizard. Are either of those two, the same as you mentioned?
This latest update (10.5.1.A.0.283) has introduced some annoyances with video playback, so I am trying to get rid of useless apps etc... in the hope that one of them clears things up.
LeeC22 said:
Can I just clarify... in the first post, it says "On an SGP311 what you typically enable is the following..." Do I take it that should say disable, not enable?
I also noticed that I don't have B2bCustInstaller, but I do have B2bCertInstaller and B2bCustomSetupWizard. Are either of those two, the same as you mentioned?
This latest update (10.5.1.A.0.283) has introduced some annoyances with video playback, so I am trying to get rid of useless apps etc... in the hope that one of them clears things up.
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1- Thanks for pointing out the typo. I fixed it in the text.
2- You don't see B2bCustInstaller because Sony disables it by default, but it is still in your system. Leave the other two apps be. They will be dormant.
3- What annoyances are you referring to? I may be able to help if you are more specific.
najoor said:
1- Thanks for pointing out the typo. I fixed it in the text.
2- You don't see B2bCustInstaller because Sony disables it by default, but it is still in your system. Leave the other two apps be. They will be dormant.
3- What annoyances are you referring to? I may be able to help if you are more specific.
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My tablet is primarily a video playback device for the music videos I collect. Before this update, video playback was smooth, after this update, it's just not quite right. What makes me think it's the update, is that I use MX Player Pro, and the video playback isn't smooth in that either. The Sony Movies app is all over the place with playback. One update it's fine, next update it's bad, then it might be okay again, but this update it's just not quite right. It was during a bad period that I decided to get MX Player Pro, which seemed much better... but now it's suffering the same problem.
To most people, it would probably look fine, but as a graphic artist, I find I'm very susceptible to the slightest irregularity in playback. As it affected two players, I presumed that it was a background service or something that was affecting resources enough to affect video decoding.
I would also just like to say thanks for providing that list. My tablet used to take just over an hour to recharge 10% of the battery life back. In just over 6 hours last night, it recharged 80%. So that's a major plus point in my book, so thank you for your efforts. :good:
LeeC22 said:
My tablet is primarily a video playback device for the music videos I collect. Before this update, video playback was smooth, after this update, it's just not quite right. What makes me think it's the update, is that I use MX Player Pro, and the video playback isn't smooth in that either. The Sony Movies app is all over the place with playback. One update it's fine, next update it's bad, then it might be okay again, but this update it's just not quite right. It was during a bad period that I decided to get MX Player Pro, which seemed much better... but now it's suffering the same problem.
To most people, it would probably look fine, but as a graphic artist, I find I'm very susceptible to the slightest irregularity in playback. As it affected two players, I presumed that it was a background service or something that was affecting resources enough to affect video decoding.
I would also just like to say thanks for providing that list. My tablet used to take just over an hour to recharge 10% of the battery life back. In just over 6 hours last night, it recharged 80%. So that's a major plus point in my book, so thank you for your efforts. :good:
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I'm not sure you can fix this by just disabling background processes. Sony's Kitkat release is slower at its core than 4.3 and that can be seen and quantified in an Antutu benchmark. Give it your best shot but your best bet is to downgrade to 4.3.
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I'm not sure you can fix this by just disabling background processes. Sony's Kitkat release is slower at its core than 4.3 and that can be seen and quantified in an Antutu benchmark. Give it your best shot but your best bet is to downgrade to 4.3.
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You're right, I disabled loads of stuff last night, and the problem frustratingly remains.
I'd ideally downgrade to 4.2, because I think 4.3 is where Sony removed the screenshot option (before cunningly adding it back in 4.4 as a "new feature"), isn't it? I use that a lot, because my eyes aren't that good, and when you hit a website that blocks pinch-zooming, or you get an app that has text that is too small, like Google Earth, I frequently need to capture the screen and zoom in.
Of course, the problem with this solution is that downgrading to a specific rom version, for a specific version of the tablet, in a specific territory, is not that simple. I'll have to spend some time collecting the required files and instructions, then wait for a good day (mentally), to give it a go.
Sup, i'm using this phone for 4 years! So, im curious about your camera and battery life? Are you using auto mode, if not can you share some wisdom about manual settings and etc? How is your battery life, are you using any "hacks" or something? I'm using CustomiZed Sony 5.1.1 (https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/development/rom-official-sony-lollipop-5-1-1-t3196237), so its basically a stock version... So if there is anyone with stock and daily using this phone, can you share camera and battery? Thanks!
My wife is still using this phone daily. Stock version. Camera is not great because it's 4 years old. She used to get about 3 hours of screen on time every day. She uses essentially messenger, WhatsApp, and SMS (a lot). She still likes the phone and don't want to change it by now.
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My wife is still using this phone daily. Stock version. Camera is not great because it's 4 years old. She used to get about 3 hours of screen on time every day. She uses essentially messenger, WhatsApp, and SMS (a lot). She still likes the phone and don't want to change it by now.
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i would recommend to flash clean stock, bcs that battery life is really bad. Mine can last for about half day with not that much usage...
I am using Resurrection Remix v5.8 battery life is amazing. Not using camera though. Been using Xperia Z since its released.
I've had mine since 2013 and only switched to the Z5 last year after the battery died. I've recently ordered a new battery and having it put in this week just because I want a backup (hopefully a new battery fixes it anyway - it's been used as a permanently charged up alarm clock since it won't hold a charge).
Still using since 2015.Especially need to say durability is perfect <3 i've done great things with it. Still i don't have get any issue. I'm using this for my better photo quality https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony-themes-apps/mod-xperia-camera-unlocked-t3071161
It's still my daily driver. I just replaced the screen. Battery is poor camera has a lot of bad pixels but i use it only for taking pictures of books/notebooks so I don't care. Im running PureX Z v3 from about a year and a half and it's going well. I have plans to unlock bootloader and try lineage but, don't know when.
I've just replaced the battery this morning and reset the phone. In the process, I have lost the waterproofing as the glue is a little loose in one corner. An easy fix I guess, the gasket and glue is only a few bucks off eBay, and its not that hard to take off the back now that it is loose. Heat is still an issue but I will let it settle and observe.
I don't intend to take it with me to the shower or pool though, and it will now live the remainder of its life in a case as my car nav and Play Music client.
i use it daily , having it with me since 2013 (Did root n all this year) Currently on RR Latest 5.8.2.
i have put kernel auditor set max freq to 1.7k and min to 0.3k
overall it get me thru my day
heat is less compare to other rom or previous version
battery i get screen on time of 220-250 mins depend on use but 3.5 hrs is minimum i get...
camera i have minor scratch so rear camera ok but front good. use Google Camera in this rom.
3 years now, on lineage 14.1 unofficial, ditch stock and it's alright, very smooth still. Still upgrading to the Snapdragon 835 though ?
I have sony xperia z and samsung galaxy s7. Still prefer to use xperia z for my daily usage. S7 have better photo but xperia z is for everything else. S7 is like English people love to say "not my cup of tea".
Xperia z is still on stock kernel. Unable to unlock bootloader.
Best regards
I am still using it, it is still running really great. Running on "Resurrection Remix N for Xperia Z". But my old Sony Xperia S still makes better photos, with alot less noise!
Using this phone since 4 years now! I like the little things about this phone, like the small apps it's literally a life saver!
Battery life is poor.. i have to charge it two times a day.
I have over 100 apps installed and it still holds up pretty well during peak performance periods, although some apps like snapchat do lag, not many system lags tho.
Also it's literally impossible to play demanding games on it.
Camera was decent... Until when, one day i unlocked the bootloader and the drm's got deleted, it's a patato cam now.
Although i noticed the Instagram stories camera app takes slightly better pictures than stock camera app.
The display is the best part of this phone, i put it up against the iPhone 6 and Samsung Galaxy A5 and Xperia Z's display comes out better than both with accurate colors (With Bravia engine disabled).
I am on stock rom with bootloader unlocked. I have a couple of xposed module's that elevate the experience to a whole new level like the Android N-ify, ad blocker, custom status and nav bars, etc
I must say after rooting, I've done a lot of experiments that just make my phone stand out amongst other phones!
I am planning on buying a new phone this year (Galaxy Note 8 or LG V30) but I'll definitely miss this wonderful phone!
My Z is my daily since March 2014.
Replaced Stock once, then went to CM13. Yesterday I had installed LineageOS 14.1-UNOFFICIAL.
My battery is like the first day right now, the new LineageOS made my old phone more recent than my friends XZ
I just got one. Love the phone so much I decided to use it as my daily and put away my M8 !! Not as good quality as the M8 but I love the feel of the phone.
Only problem is I have a locked bootloader and it would appear that all I can put on it is lollipop. Anyone know of at least a marshmellow rom I could install on a locked bootloader ?
My Z was taken out of a cupboard about a month ago having sat idle for most of its life as I was given a company phone (first a Galaxy S4 and then a Note 4). The phone was unlocked and rooted soon after I first got it, but I 'refreshed' it a few weeks back with ExistenZ Ultimate 3.5 (I managed to download the older copy without spotting the more recent ones - my bad!) and it was working fine, with good battery life, but I then noticed I could not get a VPN connection working and this seemed to be a known problem with some 4.x stock ROMs, so yesterday I reflashed with CustomiZed 5.1.1 and now the VPN functionality works! I did somehow manage to kill wifi with one tweak and I had to factory reset the phone this morning and start over (I have a separate post on that), but things are now up and running again. With the older ROM, audio used to stutter too, but not with the new one.
The Z is an 'OK' phone with a good screen, but I never really liked the waterproof port covers, nor the location of the power button (causes issues in car cradles) and the speaker (you can cover it with your hand too easily), but right now it is working fine and I am impressed that the battery is still pretty healthy after several years sitting discharged. It'll do until I decide what make/model to get next.
I'm almost reaching 4th year using this phone. Bought at around June 2013, and this is my primary phone for it's entire lifetime. Still loving this phone.
Maybe I'll change to X Performance someday
Battery is still so good, still got 2100mAh (original 2370mAh) - tested using my LiPo charger, directly to the battery cell terminal.
I do this "insane" battery testing because I want to know about the sony battery quality over 4 years, and want to test if it's the battery, software, or network problem that draining my battery.
Also, battery replacement are quite easy to obtain here...
i used to use it until yesterday...
i bricked it trying to downgrade it for the second time (i did it right the first time a year ago and i got it right...).
did it happen to anybody and would you have any idea to where i should try to find informations to reinstall my xperia z C6603 and "unbrick" it?
Thanks
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I'm a Chinese. I was considering change my daily phone from XZ until I found RR rom. its the best rom I have ever used, even better than CM mod. Now XZ will be being my daily phone and I like it more than before.
I am using it for a week now as backup for the time the battery of my Z5 is replaced. Using the unofficial Lineage OS 14.1. Very stable Rom.
I just bought a Sprint V20 and so far I have been looking through the roms and non are without bugs or problems. Which rom would you guys use and is it really that much better to root the phone over stock ?
Mine was lagging horribly and the battery was draining really fast.
I rooted and it has been so much better.
DevDigital's Sprint roms have been flawless for me. Not a single hiccup.
Just don't factory reset within twrp or you'll end up in a bootloop. Not bricked but aggravating.
I've had mine since Black Friday and still haven't rooted. I'm enjoying the phone despite the lack of data tethering. Is there a way to set the wide angle camera as the default camera so that 3rd party apps use the wide angle rear camera instead of the current primary? I'd enjoy the phone that much more if that were possible.
For me it's worth it just for adaway.
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Yushawan said:
Is there a way to set the wide angle camera as the default camera so that 3rd party apps use the wide angle rear camera instead of the current primary?
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There is no way. At least for Tmobile's variant. However, it only take a second to either zoom out or just click the icon and it will both take you to widescreen. I find zooming out easier for me. I dont know why
I personally only root to control programs that we should be able to control anyway (aka facebook), I get annoyed at how programs continually relaunch themselves without my knowledge.
That being said at this time I haven't rooted mainly because I've only had the phone for a month and I want to make sure that the phone works properly for at least 6 months.
Right now I am running greenify to attempt to control apps that think my personal phone is their playground to do whatever they want.
If I was younger and not dependent on my phone for a lot of things (business and organization) I would try other builds people have made but since I need reliability above all I personally tend to stick to stock builds.
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midmadn said:
Mine was lagging horribly and the battery was draining really fast.
I rooted and it has been so much better.
DevDigital's Sprint roms have been flawless for me. Not a single hiccup.
Just don't factory reset within twrp or you'll end up in a bootloop. Not bricked but aggravating.
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I may try this soon. I just hope DevDigitals Sprint roms are stable. I use Black Player as my music player for the gym and the camera is awesome for my Cruise I'm taking in April.
It still looks like people are having issues with DevDigitals rom. The data and texting issues. Are all these issues solved in V6.5 ? I use my phone for work and cant take the chance of it not answering a call or a text. Is the new V6.5 working as a daily driver for Sprint users ?
no issues at all on 6.5 for most.....
people sometimes don't read/search anymore
I did post once that I was having data issues but it was no fault of DevDigitl's great rom.
It was my wifi wasn't shutting off and I had previously signed into xfinity wifi. Every time I got anywhere near an xfinity wireless connection, (which is every other house in Boston) it would try to connect.
I'm still learning LG. Been on Samsung for a long time.
I firmly believe the rare connection issues are user error. Once the rom is installed you just need to click update profile and then update prl once.
It's worth rooting
Settings/Developer Options/Tick on "Force GPU Rendering" this should make this beast smoother/snappier" If root available try L Speed/Entropy/fstrim apps found on Play Store! LG V20 & LG G5 are snappy beasts, well optimised with Snapdragon 820 and is better than Samsung.
my LG-V20 was also laggy and draining battery quickly. i finally rooted my phone and it is 100% better i am currently using Maximum OvrDriVE Rom. its extremely nice. so if anyone else has the lag/battery drain quicker i suggest rooting your phone should fix. its been about 2 weeks and still doing great also so.
If you want a stable amazing ROM the NotSoStock ROM is the only option....
Don't hesitate just do it. You won't regret it.
My XA Ultra has been upgraded to Nougat version about two weeks ago, everything's all right but its brightness is too bright at low level (mean 0% brighness level bar + Adaptive Brighness disabled). At first, for fix that issue, I used Lux but I quickly discovered that Lux can't fix brightness because It actually just creates a filter on the screen and sometimes Lux freezes the screen. And of course, the battery still drains very fast and my eyes get tired of using it
Therefore, I have built a new kernel with some modifications for fix this issue. I have been working on it for 2 days, and nothing happen, everything seems to work fine. So, I'm happy for sharing this kernel to anyone who meet this issue. Please, protect your angel eyes (if you dont want to wear the thick glasses like me)
Link download: https://mega.nz/#!ZuxXRLQY!5nzb6mclJuCvrg8ZPusWB0gZqoQKQ6kWLgzu5mgrYdk
P/S: Sorry for my poor english, I just switched to it for half a year.
Main concern
My main concern lately is that going forward onto nougat, makes it so i'm not able to flash the DRM fix, Granted i never really noticed a difference without it. But im glad this kernel exists now cause dang that sucker is bright on low!
lonewolfbtown said:
My main concern lately is that going forward onto nougat, makes it so i'm not able to flash the DRM fix, Granted i never really noticed a difference without it. But im glad this kernel exists now cause dang that sucker is bright on low!
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I think you shouldn't have to bother about DRM fix with XAU, I'm not really realize the difference before and after loss DRM with it (Display, camera and sound same quality) . In my other Sony phone, Z3+, it is easy to recognize the big difference after loss DRM. The reason may come from the cpu of devices. For example, XAU used a stupid cpu - so taking and saving one photo from camera is very slow. With Z3+, I can shot of multiple photos in a second.
Their product is no longer really good and their price is not competitive. That's why Sony is losing a lot of customers in my country. If anyone bought a new Sony smartphone which costs about $300 today, next day that smartphone would lose value in half whether it's still in warranty or redeemable. But that won't happen to the Iphone or Samsung smartphone ...
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I think you shouldn't have to bother about DRM fix with XAU, I'm not really realize the difference before and after loss DRM with it (Display, camera and sound same quality) . In my other Sony phone, Z3+, it is easy to recognize the big difference after loss DRM. The reason may come from the cpu of devices. For example, XAU used a stupid cpu - so taking and saving one photo from camera is very slow. With Z3+, I can shot of multiple photos in a second.
Their product is no longer really good and their price is not competitive. That's why Sony is losing a lot of customers in my country. If anyone bought a new Sony smartphone which costs about $300 today, next day that smartphone would lose value in half whether it's still in warranty or redeemable. But that won't happen to the Iphone or Samsung smartphone ...
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Yeah thats a shame. Sony had a good run. I'v boughten the X-P, XZ and the xa ultra, the only one i find usefull now days is the xa ultra. Kinda seems like no matter what sony does, they just cant seem to climb out of their hole they are in. I remeber the days when i got my tmobile z3. Fanciest phone I'v ever had. Since then nothing has really come close. The XA is good but having to rely on split adoptable storage gets old. Marshmellow liked to randomly corrupt the SD card. But nougat is behaving fairly well!
I am really happy that this brightness issue have taken noticed and is fixed. :good:
But I am really sad that i could not make any modifications to my XAU because of my Locked bootloader and at Rooting status "NO"
I was lately browsing up some searches and sites for me to be able to flash this fix even with a Locked Bootloader /Status at "NO" like unpack repack sin files..
I was hoping for someone could care to help that may repack this boot. img to
.sin file hehe
and anyway ill continue to search some more and try to find a way to flash this fix.. :cyclops:
Gineer roji said:
I am really happy that this brightness issue have taken noticed and is fixed. :good:
But I am really sad that i could not make any modifications to my XAU because of my Locked bootloader and at Rooting status "NO"
I was lately browsing up some searches and sites for me to be able to flash this fix even with a Locked Bootloader /Status at "NO" like unpack repack sin files..
I was hoping for someone could care to help that may repack this boot. img to
.sin file hehe
and anyway ill continue to search some more and try to find a way to flash this fix.. :cyclops:
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As far as I know, there is no way to convert Img to Sin now. Unfortunately when you can't unlock bootloader, you shouldn't try to flash a kernel ... your device can be bricked. :highfive:
Also a fix for stamina mode would be great. You know, after enabling and disabling stamina, touch goes crazy and you have to touch the same spot 5 times otherwise phone doesn't recognise it.
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Also a fix for stamina mode would be great. You know, after enabling and disabling stamina, touch goes crazy and you have to touch the same spot 5 times otherwise phone doesn't recognise it.
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Yes , Sony XaU has a good display screen but the touch panel is not good.
We will probably have to wait Sony fix your issue, it seems to come from Synaptic Firmware, that thing is very difficult to fix.
speaking of display fix did anyone notice that touch seemed to be slowed or delayed. Especially Notices this after adoptable storage. I love the XA ultra but with my XZ laughing at the xa's speed it's a pain not being able t o use it. Love the XZ but tends to over saturate photos and the XAU is pretty dang good. What do you guys do for storage? Pick and choose apps, or adoptable stoarge?
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speaking of display fix did anyone notice that touch seemed to be slowed or delayed. Especially Notices this after adoptable storage. I love the XA ultra but with my XZ laughing at the xa's speed it's a pain not being able t o use it. Love the XZ but tends to over saturate photos and the XAU is pretty dang good. What do you guys do for storage? Pick and choose apps, or adoptable stoarge?
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adoptable stoarge with 64gb class 10 sd
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speaking of display fix did anyone notice that touch seemed to be slowed or delayed. Especially Notices this after adoptable storage. I love the XA ultra but with my XZ laughing at the xa's speed it's a pain not being able t o use it. Love the XZ but tends to over saturate photos and the XAU is pretty dang good. What do you guys do for storage? Pick and choose apps, or adoptable stoarge?
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With my XAu, the touch is pretty smooth even thought couldn't be better on an iphone. Yes, unfortunately this only happends before adoptable storage or using a fastest SD Card. So, the best solution that I can think of is buying a MicroSDHC class 10 , voted for Samsung Pro Plus 32GB because my Xau is using it
How do you flash this kernel?
With flashtool or with twrp?
any particular procedure i should be aware of?
Thanks in advance.
sr.bond said:
How do you flash this kernel?
With flashtool or with twrp?
any particular procedure i should be aware of?
Thanks in advance.
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Flash in either fastboot or TWRP.
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Lenonard Do said:
My XA Ultra has been upgraded to Nougat version about two weeks ago, everything's all right but its brightness is too bright at low level (mean 0% brighness level bar + Adaptive Brighness disabled). At first, for fix that issue, I used Lux but I quickly discovered that Lux can't fix brightness because It actually just creates a filter on the screen and sometimes Lux freezes the screen. And of course, the battery still drains very fast and my eyes get tired of using it
Therefore, I have built a new kernel with some modifications for fix this issue. I have been working on it for 2 days, and nothing happen, everything seems to work fine. So, I'm happy for sharing this kernel to anyone who meet this issue. Please, protect your angel eyes (if you dont want to wear the thick glasses like me)
Link download: https://mega.nz/#!ZuxXRLQY!5nzb6mclJuCvrg8ZPusWB0gZqoQKQ6kWLgzu5mgrYdk
P/S: Sorry for my poor english, I just switched to it for half a year.
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May you guide how to modify the kernel?
Hello,
When i flash this je Enel it avoid / cancel root with magisk, or make bootloop
Any fix ???
Anyone can help ? please
I'm laso facing the same issues on my F3216 can't tried multiple app on play store but couldn't find any solution it's very irritating can't use my phone more than 10min.
well, was using magisk v14, flashed as you said with twrp, my whole data is corrupted. thank you
Resultes in format, flashed stock ftf, and flashed ur boot from cmd, it works now but all my games and data are gone due to adoptable storage
Can i flash it for my F3216 Nougat?
##Update:
I flash this kernel to my F3216 by fastboot on PC and it's work!!
thick glasses mode initiated!
since it's too risky to unlock bootloader on this device
but anyway.. great job mate!
Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.
Factory reset or full wipe after updating to a new firmware. Also, do not restore Google apps, just start from a scratch.
I also have serious lag, it feels like a budget phone. I've had this phone since it launched, and installed every update without precaution. This is the first time experiencing these issues.
Frame rate is terrible, especially while scrolling. Delays in pressing buttons or launching apps have grown from milliseconds to sometimes two or three seconds. No other problems(aside from poor design choices). It feels like aggressive power throttling, not memory issues.
As soon as I saw that so much manual power management has been replaced by a "learning" system, I'm skeptical that the usual fixes will do anything for my problems, especially considering there is no other malfunction. Anyone else?
G950U
bigalbklyn said:
Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.
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Samsung Galaxy s8 SM-G950W. Yes. Ever since the update, my Samsung is losing files., running slow and unable to use previously used apps. Substranum, fonts etc.
It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.
Hansoliv said:
It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.
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Well, that's what I was waiting to hear. If ppl aren't universally having the issue, then a factory reset may cure the problem. I'll give it a try soon.
Yes i just got bad performance after installing pie (custom rom, so i always factory reset or it wont work) but yeah after 14 days my phone start to slowing down like old smartphone and the apps is not starting correctly (e.g i must start magisk manually or the root wont work (the app cant detect if phone is rooted even when magisk hide is off)).
I try the LightROM and ALEXIS and both have this problem (performance way worse on lightrom). I know this isnt their fault but the samsung fault (maybe because its early relase? Or...).
Note : performance is normal in the first day, but after 14-30 days the phone start to acting weirdly (the apps behave weirdly) dunno why.
Btw i use SM-G950FD
After restarting about 5 times, then manually clearing cache partition, I was able to get smooth performance. Unfortunately, I still have to restart at least once a day to prevent lagging animation. This is with light usage: streaming, facebook, email.
I turned on "reduce animations" in advanced features, and set the animation scales to 1.5 with dev options. This seems to help prolong smooth operation, but I still have to restart daily. Next step is factory reset, I have a lot to backup...
fresh install thru odin and start all over again is really good solution. at the beginning i also experiencing lag
Mine has an issue of having the fingerprint not working after it was changed. I have to do one of the following:
1. Restart and boot via safe mode then if it works, reboot again
2. Restore Settings from synced backup
3. Reset Settings
So much of a hassle.... I am thinking of rooting this soon.
Hansoliv said:
It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.
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My company bought Samsung J4plus on good deal from Three, has super sensitive reception, my own S8 only get EDGE or worse, J4 has 4G all over!!
anyone know if s9/S10 that good??
bigalbklyn said:
Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.
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Had the same problem so flashed official firmware (for my carrier, downloaded from sammobile) with Odin. This part can be done without of rooting your phone.
Do this first (back up your data before as clear flash will delete everything), and test after if it works well. If not, root it (https://forum.xda-developers.com/sa...w-to/guide-root-install-twrp-samsung-t3747535) and install adaway from xda labs.
If you root the phone or install TWRP, e-fuse will break and you cannot go back after that. Warranty will be void and the Samsung fit app won't work anymore.
Fortunately, there are workarounds on a rooted phone (https://tinyurl.com/yy37gnwv) so that is not a big deal, at least for me.
Not sure when you root it if wave pay services will work so do some research first.
an-_-dro said:
fresh install thru odin and start all over again is really good solution. at the beginning i also experiencing lag
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Has your lag subsided after time? Mine appears after a night's sleep. It never fails: Restart in the morning, smooth scrolling all day. Next morning, laggy, stuttering scrolling until I restart again. I've uninstalled all unused apps and left power mode on high performance. No change. As soon as I wake up, animation lags like a budget phone. Everything else is reliable, just not the animation.
Of course, I don't actually know what's going on, but I'm willing to bet that this new power management system that we can't control is to blame. If I have to go through all the odin, etc steps, I may just roll back to oreo. Pie is prettier, but I want my smooth operation back.
comnut said:
My company bought Samsung J4plus on good deal from Three, has super sensitive reception, my own S8 only get EDGE or worse, J4 has 4G all over!!
anyone know if s9/S10 that good??
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S10e gets similar reception to my A8(2018). When I got the A8 I had a S8 before that, and i don't remember there being any difference in signal. I live in poor signal area, so if a phone had bad signal, I'd probably remember because I owuldn't have any signal at all.
This is really quite unacceptable. I took the OTA update and the lagging began. I've never had an issue with an OTA update. I've never done a factory reset after an OTA update either. Flashing custom ROM is different but this is from Samsung...
Does anyone have a solution that doesn't involve daily reboots or a factory reset? I just find that really inconvenient.
J450N79 said:
This is really quite unacceptable. I took the OTA update and the lagging began. I've never had an issue with an OTA update. I've never done a factory reset after an OTA update either. Flashing custom ROM is different but this is from Samsung...
Does anyone have a solution that doesn't involve daily reboots or a factory reset? I just find that really inconvenient.
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Yes, I agree. It's hard to know at whom who to point the finger. Google, Samsung, or both. Regardless, it's very disappointing, and hurts my impression of both companies.
I'm currently allowing the phone to run for 7 days to see if the root method listed above by robyos may be feasible for my tmo s8.
If manually restarting is the only hurdle for you, it can now be set to restart automatically (I guess they anticipated this?) Settings > device care > three dots > auto restart.
It feels like a duct-tape band-aid, but it's there. After my 7 day test, I'll probably give this auto-restart a try. However, I'm concerned about the terribly annoying tmo jingle at each restart.
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Yes, I agree. It's hard to know at whom who to point the finger. Google, Samsung, or both. Regardless, it's very disappointing, and hurts my impression of both companies.
I'm currently allowing the phone to run for 7 days to see if the root method listed above by robyos may be feasible for my tmo s8.
If manually restarting is the only hurdle for you, it can now be set to restart automatically (I guess they anticipated this?) Settings > device care > three dots > auto restart.
It feels like a duct-tape band-aid, but it's there. After my 7 day test, I'll probably give this auto-restart a try. However, I'm concerned about the terribly annoying tmo jingle at each restart.
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I'm thinking the problem may be googles not Samsung's...I had a OnePlus 5 for almost 2 years. At some point after the pie update it would stutter while scrolling or during animations intermittently. Even a factory reset didn't fix it. The phone was still fast but it was aesthetically annoying seeing the stuttering.
I drown the phone in the ocean on vacation this month and had to replace it so I got a used s8. I haven't had the same issue with scrolling but I've only had it for a couple weeks so far on a fresh wipe. It had some "normal" Samsung lag that the OnePlus didn't have while opening apps and it doesn't keep nearly as much in memory (4gb vs 8 GB RAM). But I'm still thinking the problem may be with pie itself since people were complaining about stuttering on both Samsung and OnePlus phones.
Hopefully my s8 is not affected and it's only certain ones experience it.
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totally not satisfied with the Pie update, I wish I did not upgrade my fast S8.....
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350Rocket said:
I'm thinking the problem may be googles not Samsung's...I had a OnePlus 5 for almost 2 years. At some point after the pie update it would stutter while scrolling or during animations intermittently. Even a factory reset didn't fix it. The phone was still fast but it was aesthetically annoying seeing the stuttering.
I drown the phone in the ocean on vacation this month and had to replace it so I got a used s8. I haven't had the same issue with scrolling but I've only had it for a couple weeks so far on a fresh wipe. It had some "normal" Samsung lag that the OnePlus didn't have while opening apps and it doesn't keep nearly as much in memory (4gb vs 8 GB RAM). But I'm still thinking the problem may be with pie itself since people were complaining about stuttering on both Samsung and OnePlus phones.
Hopefully my s8 is not affected and it's only certain ones experience it.
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Wow! It's sad to hear an 8gb phone would still have the same issue. I wonder if this has to do with power management. Perhaps it's squeezing a tiny percentage of battery life out of saving some frames. It drives me crazy and gives me a headache. I wish they'd provide a simple switch for whatever this is.
This os feels like they ventured into breaking what works in an endless quest to fix what wasn't broken. Perhaps some team of programmers is celebrating minute improvements, but it's coming at the expense of the consumer, who never signed up to be the guinea pig. Each update seems to remove or break basic reliability and functionality that we paid for. I feel like I paid a premium price to become a software tester.
So reboots don't seem to fix the lag I'm experiencing when opening and closing certain apps. This phone was plenty fast before for me. Other issues are present now too. Auto adaptive display brightness doesn't work as well. I also really think it's sheet that you can't disable GPS and have the battery saving mode anymore! WTF Samsung.