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My brother in law recently switched over to SPRINT and gave me his pretty new DX. I can't activate the phone until next week (because he made the mistake of porting the phone number BEFORE he gave me the phone) so according to VZW i have to wait until that process is completed and the billing cycle is finished before I can use the phone. (I don't think he plans on paying them )
My question is...can I root the DX before I actually get it linked to my VZW phone number? (like remove google apps and just use the phones capabilities like camera etc. without having to call and activate it) I'm coming from HTC Droid eris so I don't know much about rooting the DX yet.
Can someone help me please.
I believe you can, I think theirs a way to bypass the activation screen. You might be able to find it on the forums or if not just Google it I'm sure you can find it.
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Yes you can root it without being on a network. all you need to do is go back out of this thread and read the first sticky and go to the wiki. I would post link but since this is my first actual post i cant
And after your phone reboots you can get passed the little android man by touching each corner in a circular motion.
I hope for your sake that your brother in law pays Verizon. If he doesn't in they most likely blacklist the phones esn.
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But keep in mind if the phone doesn't have OTA 2.2 you might want to keep all apps because the update might fail because missing files.
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You don't even need to do the 4 corner trick.
Touch the android, hit next until you have the options of "create google login, sign in, or skip" and just choose skip. That easy.
That's assuming he's at the "touch to begin screen" which he probably isn't being that he's the second owner.
...but yeah, check the sticky and root away.
Thanks for the information guys. Yeah I really hope that they allow him to give me his phone. I kept verifying with the rep that it would be okay to transfer the phone, he said it should be okay since it's HIS property. But i never know with those guys...
I don't plan on removing any apps at all I just want get the root access and ready so when I do hook it up, it'll be ready to go.
I'm excited to see what you guys have in store for this phone...especially coming from the Eris.
Just connect with wifi and use as normal. That easy. You can even setup a google account and use market and have all the sweet and chewies of using the X less the ability of calls and texts.
As stated above, if he doesn't pay the bill VzDubya will (normally) put the phone on the do not activate list. Again though this wont effect use while connected to wifi.
Will I have to set the phone to USB debugging mode if I try and root?
If so, I dont think I'll be able to root since I can't even get passed the "Activation Screen"
Also, how can I check to see what android version he is on (2.1 or 2.2) How do I look at the bootloader info...can I do that w/o Root? Is that dangerous? I don't want to brick the phone...
sorry for all the questions guys appreciate your patience.
Anyone?
Press menu then setting scroll to the bottom of the list to about phone click it and your info will be there. Just a thought if you don't know how to find something that simple are you sure you want to be playing with root.
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Press menu then setting scroll to the bottom of the list to about phone click it and your info will be there. Just a thought if you don't know how to find something that simple are you sure you want to be playing with root.
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Actually if you read the first post. The phone is not activated yet, so I don't have the option to "menu>settings".
And Yes, I rooted my Eris. Thanks.
Whenever I've clicked on a phone number to call via Google Maps, it would always show up that defaulted apps and ask me what i wanted to use.
Everytime it pops up, i keep clicking "Always" for the default dialer. I thought it would set it as default, but when i had to look up a business to call their place, that "Default Apps" keep popping up. Is this in any way connected to Samsung Hubs like how screen Rotations was related to samsung hubs removal?
Is there a way to fix this? I don't want to have to click it again while driving.
Dude, don't use your phone while driving.
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Dude, don't use your phone while driving.
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I don't. and what does that have to do with helping me?
Ziken said:
Whenever I've clicked on a phone number to call via Google Maps, it would always show up that defaulted apps and ask me what i wanted to use.
Everytime it pops up, i keep clicking "Always" for the default dialer. I thought it would set it as default, but when i had to look up a business to call their place, that "Default Apps" keep popping up. Is this in any way connected to Samsung Hubs like how screen Rotations was related to samsung hubs removal?
Is there a way to fix this? I don't want to have to click it again while driving.
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I tried it myself and it went right to the dialer without a pop up. What apps is it asking you to choose from? More of a work around than a fix, but... If you do not use the other apps, can you delete them? That way you shouldn't see the pop up?
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I tried it myself and it went right to the dialer without a pop up. What apps is it asking you to choose from? More of a work around than a fix, but... If you do not use the other apps, can you delete them? That way you shouldn't see the pop up?
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There were two, one a dialer and the other one is the Lookout. The one with the Lookout always ask to scan before dialing out. Don't get why it keep asking that.
EDIT: i think the same thing happen to the IE (Chrome) when it asked til i removed Chrome and it doesn't ask anymore. haven't tried it with the youtube yet.
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There were two, one a dialer and the other one is the Lookout. The one with the Lookout always ask to scan before dialing out. Don't get why it keep asking that.
EDIT: i think the same thing happen to the IE (Chrome) when it asked til i removed Chrome and it doesn't ask anymore. haven't tried it with the youtube yet.
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Well. You are probably aware, but lookout is your security/antivirus app, so it makes sense that it scans.
Unfortunately I do not have it installed so I cannot comment on how it is suppose to act.
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Well. You are probably aware, but lookout is your security/antivirus app, so it makes sense that it scans.
Unfortunately I do not have it installed so I cannot comment on how it is suppose to act.
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That not the problem. What i meant is that the default doesn't work. It always ask, even when i select "Always use as Default". I had assumed that from that, it'll always use the apps i selected as a default, but for some reasons, it isn't working.
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That not the problem. What i meant is that the default doesn't work. It always ask, even when i select "Always use as Default". I had assumed that from that, it'll always use the apps i selected as a default, but for some reasons, it isn't working.
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I installed Lookout and was able to reproduce your experience. That might be the way lookout works. As a security app, it gives you the chance to scan everything before executing. OR It could just be a bug.
One thing is for sure... Lookout is the cause of your grief. You can play around with the Lookout settings, but in the end, you may have to choose what is more important to you.
One of the big features in the new Galaxy was the addition of Whitepages built into the dialer.
Did Verizon force Samsung to remove that as well?
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Looks like Verizon removed this feature. If enough people tell them they are upset about it they may bring it back, but probably not
It's Verizon. Since when do they listen.
They want you to pay for their ID program
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Spoke with Samsung. Verizon forced them to remove it due to the paid for ID program.
Hopefully enough people bother them that they end up bringing it back.
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I found this feature by downloading "Any cut" from the play store and then scrolling through the list and finding "identify unsaved numbers" you can then turn it on from there.
Very similar In Nova Launcher... Create a new activities widget... Scroll down to the third phone choice (it has the most choices)... Then select "identify unsaved numbers"... That will create a shortcut.. Open it and flip the switch.
Yeah there are numerous programs out there.
True Caller, Whitepages ID, etc.
I would have liked not to download an extra program when it's built into the dialer.
I started a forum in the Verizon Community.
Hopefully if we get enough people to annoy them, they will bring it back.
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Very similar In Nova Launcher... Create a new activities widget... Scroll down to the third phone choice (it has the most choices)... Then select "identify unsaved numbers"... That will create a shortcut.. Open it and flip the switch.
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I followed your steps, it all worked. Now question is, how do i know its working? I played around with it but i don't see anything different.
Thanks!
dsmendiola said:
I followed your steps, it all worked. Now question is, how do i know its working? I played around with it but i don't see anything different.
Thanks!
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I guess we have to wait to get some phone calls from people we don't know... Lol
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I guess we have to wait to get some phone calls from people we don't know... Lol
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We may have turned the switch on, but i think it didnt do much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm9Ju1hMFaY
that shows the interface and i cant assure you no numbers pop up when i search pizza haha.
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We may have turned the switch on, but i think it didnt do much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm9Ju1hMFaY
that shows the interface and i cant assure you no numbers pop up when i search pizza haha.
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The switch does not bring back the program which Verizon stripped out.
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can always install it via the app store. it doesn't integrate with the dialer like the samsung version was supposed to, but it will pop on top of the default dialer and give you an alert. just a thought.
This looks really good. I"m currently using CallApp, based on pulling info from social sites, Facebook, Twitter ect. but I want something more.
It is possible to get the builtin whitepages semi working. (the caller id works but searching for local business via the contacts search bar doesn't seem to) However doing so requires a rooted phone. If you go to your system/app folder you should see a folder called SmartCallProvider. Inside is the whitepages apk. make sure it was the right permissions rw-r--r-- then go to your system/csc folder. here you want to add this line to your feature.xml file.
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<CscFeature_Common_ConfigSvcProviderForUnknownNumber>whitepages,whitepages,on</CscFeature_Common_ConfigSvcProviderForUnknownNumber>
reboot phone and it should be working. I've only recieved one unknown number call since then but whitepages seems to work as it was identified as a scam number.
TeK9samurai said:
Spoke with Samsung. Verizon forced them to remove it due to the paid for ID program.
Hopefully enough people bother them that they end up bringing it back.
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They did re-enable fm but this wouldn't seem likely.
joebrady119 said:
Very similar In Nova Launcher... Create a new activities widget... Scroll down to the third phone choice (it has the most choices)... Then select "identify unsaved numbers"... That will create a shortcut.. Open it and flip the switch.
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Thanks for this information been wondering how to do this on the Verizon phone oh nvm lol I read all the posts after doesn't really turn on thanks anyway
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It is possible to get the builtin whitepages semi working. (the caller id works but searching for local business via the contacts search bar doesn't seem to) However doing so requires a rooted phone. If you go to your system/app folder you should see a folder called SmartCallProvider. Inside is the whitepages apk. make sure it was the right permissions rw-r--r-- then go to your system/csc folder. here you want to add this line to your feature.xml file.
Code:
<CscFeature_Common_ConfigSvcProviderForUnknownNumber>whitepages,whitepages,on</CscFeature_Common_ConfigSvcProviderForUnknownNumber>
reboot phone and it should be working. I've only recieved one unknown number call since then but whitepages seems to work as it was identified as a scam number.
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I don't see a white pages apk in there
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Dri94 said:
I don't see a white pages apk in there
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the name is actually also SmartCallProvider.apk
mrclark5688 said:
the name is actually also SmartCallProvider.apk
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Okay then i did it right
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Dri94 said:
Okay then i did it right
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you also need to enable the "identify unsaved numbers" setting in your dialer, which should now be available after preforming the modification.
I thought I would start a thread and find out what people have missed not having root. What I was also thinking is that maybe some of these things could be achieved some other way but I just don't know how and others might.
1. Titanium backup. Not only could you backup applications you could freeze and uninstall any apps. I hate that I can't uninstall bloatware.
2. Would love to be able to long press the volume keys to skip tracks like with xposed
3. Xposed.
4. Clearing Cache (Delvik and Cache)
5. Full backup in TWRP
6. The annoying warning when listening to music too loud. Get rid of that!
I'm sure I have missed a bunch but those are the ones that I miss the most.
Adaway!!! And roms, I'm a flashoholic... Wifi hotspot... Reading xda for new dev news...
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Tibu.
Team Blackout apps.
Archangel apps.
ROMs to try out.
Nandroids.
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Hotspot
Cocktail auto on mod
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netengineer said:
I thought I would start a thread and find out what people have missed not having root. What I was also thinking is that maybe some of these things could be achieved some other way but I just don't know how and others might.
2. Would love to be able to long press the volume keys to skip tracks like with xposed
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There is a free app in the Playstore that works without root to change tracks with the screen off. It's called Smart Pocket - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smartvibration
How have you been ol' buddy? Miss you all from the S6. I'm rocking the S7 Edge myself over on Verizon now.
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I'm doing pretty good. Thanks for the change track app. I love the S7 edge but do miss not being rooted and flashing a ROM
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Snap Prefs
Ad Away
Xposed the
Custom Rom
Root Explorer
Titanium Backup
Use to use greenify but that is pretty much built in with the power saver which seems to do a good job. Still miss root
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Titianium is my #1 missed program and the reason I started rooting my devices in the first place! Second to that I miss the "hold back to kill" feature and also call recording. Most apps are getting better at being able to save progress or data to the could or to the SD card, but not all. Once root is achieved, I will do it just to get TiBu working again!
For me since i was able to get tethering working i am not missing anything. if/when sprint takes it away i will be sad. Actually i am kinda of relieved that this phone has to stay stock and i can't modify it. I was a flash once or twice a day some times kinda of guy before and i was alway frustrated with how unstable Android would get when flashing that much. With the power this phone has it does not need most of the things we needed with the s4 or note's. by far the best phone i have had, It will be tough to give it up when the s8 comes out next year (since i am on the galaxy for life plan) but im sure i will swap it out, unless they pull another s6 and take the sd card away again.
CM based roms.
Full control of phone, ie being able to force phone into roaming. (Im actually having a roaming data issue that I cant troubleshoot unless Im in a roaming area and thats usually when Im driving so its impossible to troubleshoot).
TiBu and backups
Bloatware removal
General troubleshooting ability
I have been tempted to go back to my fully modded and custom GS4 several times now but havent yet reached the breaking point.
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Titianium is my #1 missed program and the reason I started rooting my devices in the first place! Second to that I miss the "hold back to kill" feature and also call recording. Most apps are getting better at being able to save progress or data to the could or to the SD card, but not all. Once root is achieved, I will do it just to get TiBu working again!
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You can record calls without root.
I use this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.systweak.advancedcallrecorder
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You can record calls without root.
I use this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.systweak.advancedcallrecorder
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Thanks, I'll look into that one. Usually the non-rom based ones require the phone to be on speakerphone to record. Perhaps things have changed though.
Just tried it out and it won't work. It only records my side of the conversation and not the other end. Oh well
My primary reason to root in the past, other than bloatware removal and the hotspot mod, was an app requiring root that I have run on my last 6 phones, going back to the original Epic 4G. It's called "Call Master" (by "Fahrbot") and it is one of the most complex apps I've ever used, besides some of the Wanam apps/plugins. It's the most comprehensive call blocking app as far as I know, and that's why it requires root, to hook into the phone's services in order to catch/answer/hang-up any call from any number that is not in my contact list. It prevents non-contacts/unknown/restricted/private numbers from even ringing my phone, let alone leaving me a voicemail. They just hear dead air when they dial my number. In effect, it is a "white-list" call blocking *root-only* app, and I I simply can't live without it. The built in so-called "blocking" settings of the S7E seems to send callers to voicemail, which defeats the whole point. That's call rejection, not call blocking, right?
I REALLY NEED A SOLUTION FOR THIS!! Spam calls driving me nuts and getting a VM means they register it as a known active cell#.
Does anyone out there know of a non-root call blocker app that has a white-list function, AND will truly block/hangup instead of just rejecting calls? So glad you created this thread OP. Some of the solutions given in response to what people are missing without root are things I already know I'll try out.
trmitche2 said:
My primary reason to root in the past, other than bloatware removal and the hotspot mod, was an app requiring root that I have run on my last 6 phones, going back to the original Epic 4G. It's called "Call Master" (by "Fahrbot") and it is one of the most complex apps I've ever used, besides some of the Wanam apps/plugins. It's the most comprehensive call blocking app as far as I know, and that's why it requires root, to hook into the phone's services in order to catch/answer/hang-up any call from any number that is not in my contact list. It prevents non-contacts/unknown/restricted/private numbers from even ringing my phone, let alone leaving me a voicemail. They just hear dead air when they dial my number. In effect, it is a "white-list" call blocking *root-only* app, and I I simply can't live without it. The built in so-called "blocking" settings of the S7E seems to send callers to voicemail, which defeats the whole point. That's call rejection, not call blocking, right?
I REALLY NEED A SOLUTION FOR THIS!! Spam calls driving me nuts and getting a VM means they register it as a known active cell#.
Does anyone out there know of a non-root call blocker app that has a white-list function, AND will truly block/hangup instead of just rejecting calls? So glad you created this thread OP. Some of the solutions given in response to what people are missing without root are things I already know I'll try out.
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I've been using "Call Blocker Voicemail Blocker" for about a week now and so far, so good.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greythinker.punchback.donotdisturb
ned4spd8874 said:
I've been using "Call Blocker Voicemail Blocker" for about a week now and so far, so good.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greythinker.punchback.donotdisturb
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I'll check this out. Thanks. Anyone else using some other solution? I didn't realize just how much I needed Call Master (which I paid for) until I got this phone and could no longer use it without root.
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ned4spd8874 said:
I've been using "Call Blocker Voicemail Blocker" for about a week now and so far, so good.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greythinker.punchback.donotdisturb
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Got this app up and running, but the feature called "stranger call blocking" would need to enabled to act as a true white-list blocker. The app says that feature requires "app upgrade" but I can't find anywhere in the app to purchase a key/license, despite the Play Store page's reference to in-app purchases...
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Got this app up and running, but the feature called "stranger call blocking" would need to enabled to act as a true white-list blocker. The app says that feature requires "app upgrade" but I can't find anywhere in the app to purchase a key/license, despite the Play Store page's reference to in-app purchases...
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Don't know...
Go to the developers page in the play store and it should be there. I think the "premium" version has a different name for some reason.
Hotspot
Geez, I'd miss a lot of important calls if I blocked any number not in my contacts. Businesses including doctor's office, frequently show a different outgoing number than the number they give you to call. People I know who use a different number than normal. My wife once left her phone somewhere, and a stranger found it and called me (my number was on her lock screen). It would have been gone forever if I blocked all unknown numbers.
I looked for smart settings on my Verizon unit and couldn't find it. Looks like Verizon removed it.
Here is how to get it back.
Download QuickShortcutmaker from the market
Open it and scroll down to smart settings.
Open the smart settings dropdown.
Now press the first smart settings drop down.
This will create a icon on your home screen.
That's it.
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Awesome! Thanks for the tip!
Thank you for this suggestion. Most Smart Settings cannot be used without the My Places feature active, and that has apparently been disabled by Verizon as well. Any workaround suggestions?
Perhaps try Llama? It can be found in the Play Store
I would be very interested if one of the tmobile phone owners have an apk of my places, and could possibly post it.
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Attached are the APKs. One of the app itself, the other is the engine. Not sure if you need the engine or not though.
Appreciate you posting that, unfortunately it said that they are corrupted. Both files are only a handful of kilobytes each which cant be correct
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Those were pulled with titanium backup. Not exactly sure where it is in the system files for a direct pull.
Possible its under root folder then system then app folder. Im just not sure
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I recommend MacroDroid. Much better than Smart Settings. Smart Settings is terrible by comparison. Verizon did you a favor.
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Ill give that a shot, thank you, i assume it doesnt kill battery (i hope) lol
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Possible its under root folder then system then app folder. Im just not sure
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To be more clear I checked /system/app and /system/priv-app. Nothing was named My Places or anything similar.
Vuciz said:
To be more clear I checked /system/app and /system/priv-app. Nothing was named My Places or anything similar.
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I looked for smart settings on my Verizon unit and couldn't find it. Looks like Verizon removed it.
Here is how to get it back.
Download QuickShortcutmaker from the market
Open it and scroll down to smart settings.
Open the smart settings dropdown.
Now press the first smart settings drop down.
This will create a icon on your home screen.
That's it.
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Tried this, waited 5 days but settings aren't turning on. This isn't working at all. Did it work for you?
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Thank you for this suggestion. Most Smart Settings cannot be used without the My Places feature active, and that has apparently been disabled by Verizon as well. Any workaround suggestions?
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No, unfortunately Verizon verified that they did indeed REMOVE My places functionality from their version, so no it will not auto-locate your home location after 5 days, either.
IMO, they are trying to force you to use more data. Most people turn their wifi off when they leave, and turn it back on when they come home - Smart setting will do just that. So, why would Big Red not want you to have it? Because when you have to do it manually, you'll forget to turn it back on when you get home... and when you do that, you'll use more data. my *theory*.
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No, unfortunately Verizon verified that they did indeed REMOVE My places functionality from their version, so no it will not auto-locate your home location after 5 days, either.
IMO, they are trying to force you to use more data. Most people turn their wifi off when they leave, and turn it back on when they come home - Smart setting will do just that. So, why would Big Red not want you to have it? Because when you have to do it manually, you'll forget to turn it back on when you get home... and when you do that, you'll use more data. my *theory*.
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Or people will just leave WiFi on...because it doesn't use that much battery when not in use. This isn't a conspiracy to get people to use more data. Sounds like carriers have to pay for certain features on phones and Verizon didn't want to cash out for some less useful features. Plenty of other apps out there that can turn your WiFi on and off automatically.
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partylikeaninjastar said:
Or people will just leave WiFi on...because it doesn't use that much battery when not in use. This isn't a conspiracy to get people to use more data. Sounds like carriers have to pay for certain features on phones and Verizon didn't want to cash out for some less useful features. Plenty of other apps out there that can turn your WiFi on and off automatically.
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Hmmm... most people I know turn it off, but to each his own. But when that is intentionally disabled along with FM radio, along with Google In Apps Search shortcut (by which you must do an internet search first before just searching for something on your phone...) - a pattern seems to be emerging... but let's give Big Red the benefit of the doubt, right? Let's forget about the lawsuit about them asking Blackberry to disable bluetooth so you couldn't transfer files, or the similar lawsuit about the same kind of thing with Motorola...
No... Nothing to see here... Move along, people, move along...
Any luck with this?
Is there a root app that can do the same thing since My Places isn't working?
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Is there a root app that can do the same thing since My Places isn't working?
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There are numerous apps that don't require root that will do what Smart Settings does and more.
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