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Still the best phone?

So...after 4 months with the Verizon version, I'm making what I call a "lateral"transfer to the LG G2. Specs are becoming moot. The G2 offers a lot, the battery being a big factor.
Did anyone else let go of there Moto X 2014?
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I'll never let go of the Moto X, best phone ever made. I always sell my old devices to pay for my new ones, but that's not gonna happen this time around. This bad boy is going in the museum when I upgrade.

A friend just got the G3 as there was some issue getting the Moto X (corporate account). It's a great phone, but I wasn't a big fan of their software overlays. Plus cell radio quality is a big factor for me and the Moto X has better radio/antenna system. Camera on LG is noticeably better, but still not good enough if it is low light and something I really care about. Nice that it has removable battery and SD card, but have really never needed either.
And I do like the Moto X add ons... if they'd only get 'Attentive Display' working on Lollipop!

I'm finding that the battery isn't holding up long term.I need more. It's great for what it does, but it's a legitimate step back. It's rather disappointing.
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Solutions Etcetera said:
A friend just got the G3 as there was some issue getting the Moto X (corporate account). It's a great phone, but I wasn't a big fan of their software overlays. Plus cell radio quality is a big factor for me and the Moto X has better radio/antenna system. Camera on LG is noticeably better, but still not good enough if it is low light and something I really care about. Nice that it has removable battery and SD card, but have really never needed either.
And I do like the Moto X add ons... if they'd only get 'Attentive Display' working on Lollipop!
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Attentive display seems to be working quite well in the newest lollipop build (5.0.1) that was just released for Telus in Canada.

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Attentive display seems to be working quite well in the newest lollipop build (5.0.1) that was just released for Telus in Canada.
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Good to hear. Hopefully we'll get that in the US soon.

Its the best phone for who dont have an att branded device. I cant unlock it and dont have lollipop.. Next time i will pay more for a pure.

The moto x series is really a breakthrough, this phone is (the) smartphone, I spent an hour or two receiving and responding to messages and calls without touching it not to mention other genius features which are hardware dependent.

Cons: no sd card and no easily removable battery
Pro: everything else
A very nice phone

The battery life is really bad, and has gotten worst. Even with Lollipop, which made it better, I'm not happy. As much as I love the speed of the phone, the battery is killing me hard! The G2 will give me near similar speed with much better battery, not to mention greater storage. This may be on Swappa soon...

I went from a nexus 5 to a G3 to now the moto X² PE and won't give this up unless something crazy comes out or the X³ arrives.
I have not had any battery issues with this phone as I consistently get 4.5 hrs SOT with 12+ hours total. I will say that the camera on the G3 was much better, but the moto X isn't horrible. And the hands free/voice actions with this phone are second to none.
That's just my humble opinion though.

As someone on Verizon, this phone is BY FAR the best available. No bloatware other than AcDisplay and some nice Moto things that make the phone better. Coming from a GS3 and a Galaxy Nexus (switched after my GS3 cracked), this phone is a god when it comes to battery life. I consistently get three, if not four hours of SoT per day. This phone already has lollipop and had it before some Nexus devices got it, and some flagships still don't have it, let alone on Verizon. The only thing not so good is the camera, but it gets the job done fine as long as there's good lighting. If I had the choice (unlocked cell service), I would still choose the OnePlus One, but I didn't have a choice.

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As someone on Verizon, this phone is BY FAR the best available. No bloatware other than AcDisplay and some nice Moto things that make the phone better. Coming from a GS3 and a Galaxy Nexus (switched after my GS3 cracked), this phone is a god when it comes to battery life. I consistently get three, if not four hours of SoT per day. This phone already has lollipop and had it before some Nexus devices got it, and some flagships still don't have it, let alone on Verizon. The only thing not so good is the camera, but it gets the job done fine as long as there's good lighting. If I had the choice (unlocked cell service), I would still choose the OnePlus One, but I didn't have a choice.
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I'm on Verizon, and you must not have used a G3 or the Turbo at all. The LG skin is light (I come from Samsung) and the Turbo is the X beefed up.
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ChristianPreachr said:
I'm on Verizon, and you must not have used a G3 or the Turbo at all. The LG skin is light (I come from Samsung) and the Turbo is the X beefed up.
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The Turbo looks great on paper, but the actual device is only so-so. I spent a good deal of time with one and walked away unimpressed. The X has FAR better build quality, is as fast if not faster (no QHD screen to waste resources on) and was generally smoother. Sure the turbo has better battery life, but my X easily lasts through the day and then some so it's a non-issue. The G3 is ugly, the skin is still pretty bad, and it is underpowered for the screen it has. Aside from the N5, everything LG puts out is just meh. People need to stop looking at only specs, they don't matter nearly as much as they used to. That said, the X still provides the best user experience out of any phone on the market, and that is what's important.

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The Turbo looks great on paper, but the actual device is only so-so. I spent a good deal of time with one and walked away unimpressed. The X has FAR better build quality, is as fast if not faster (no QHD screen to waste resources on) and was generally smoother. Sure the turbo has better battery life, but my X easily lasts through the day and then some so it's a non-issue. The G3 is ugly, the skin is still pretty bad, and it is underpowered for the screen it has. Aside from the N5, everything LG puts out is just meh. People need to stop looking at only specs, they don't matter nearly as much as they used to. That said, the X still provides the best user experience out of any phone on the market, and that is what's important.
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My feelings exactly. I really, really didn't like how the Turbo was built and even though the G3 build in my opinion is sleek, it's nothing special compared to the X. I've never used either phone as a daily driver, so I may not be the best one to judge it, but the Moto X is blazing fast with "good enough" features that work for me as a user who just wants to get through the day being able to use features like Google Now, something I was never able to keep on with my previous phones. The experience of the X is perfect for an everyday user, like most people are, and in my opinion that's what matters most in a phone. Again, I may have bias as this is my only phone I have been using.

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The Turbo looks great on paper, but the actual device is only so-so. I spent a good deal of time with one and walked away unimpressed. The X has FAR better build quality, is as fast if not faster (no QHD screen to waste resources on) and was generally smoother. Sure the turbo has better battery life, but my X easily lasts through the day and then some so it's a non-issue. The G3 is ugly, the skin is still pretty bad, and it is underpowered for the screen it has. Aside from the N5, everything LG puts out is just meh. People need to stop looking at only specs, they don't matter nearly as much as they used to. That said, the X still provides the best user experience out of any phone on the market, and that is what's important.
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Well, from the beginning of time until now, numbers haven't lied. That's not up for debate. But with user experience..I have to install nova launcher on the X because stock is lacking. The G2 (which I'm going to) offers equal speed. A smaller os, better battery and excellent build all while being a year older. The X while being customizable is just not enough for a power user.
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ChristianPreachr said:
Well, from the beginning of time until now, numbers haven't lied. That's not up for debate. But with user experience..I have to install nova launcher on the X because stock is lacking. The G2 (which I'm going to) offers equal speed. A smaller os, better battery and excellent build all while being a year older. The X while being customizable is just not enough for a power user.
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I never said numbers lie, but they aren't always representative of the actual experience that the phone provides. If numbers meant everything, than the iPhone would have the worst battery life and performance of any smartphone out there, but that couldn't be farther from the truth. The same applies to the X. While the Turbo has better numbers, the X has the better UX. I don't see how the X isn't enough for a power user, I'm the very definition of a power user and it is pretty much everything I can ask for in a smartphone, with storage being the sole exception. Who cares if you have to put Nova launcher on it? That has no bearing on the quality of the phone itself. At least it doesn't have a nasty UI like the G2 does, even Nova cant save it from LG's hideous software, not to mention the plastic fantastic build. But everybody is entitled to their own opinion. If you think the G2 will serve your needs better, than that's wonderful. For me, the X is where its at.

hello guys ! i wanna upgrade to new device
and i'm confused between nexus 5 and moto x(2014) ?
i personally like pure vanilla aosp and this both have almost same though moto has some modification i don't think it will impact badly on performance ( does it? )
i love N5's fast update smooth performance even with some hardware compromises
but on other has moto x have better SD801 , and GUP freq 578 (vs 450 on N5) { will gaming performance be better ? } which in theory make it batter performance so if any anyone here can tell it's really an upgrade or i won't feel anything better
finally i like amoled but read somewhere that amoled pannel on moto x is worst qauily that samsung can make (really ?!!) , othere thing about camera ppl says it's 13MP is not as good as 8MP of N5 !! ( is it right ? ) and moto don't have notification led & OIS ( while taking pictures only does it matter ? )
so need your view should i go for moto X of stick again with relibale N5 ? will moto x be really upgrade ?
and how's lollipop on moto X ? ( i really like lollipop so hoping bugfree )
it will be really helpful if you can answer red marked questions

jineshpatel30 said:
hello guys ! i wanna upgrade to new device
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and i'm confused between nexus 5 and moto x(2014) ?
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old generation phone vs new one. I really have no doubt which one to buy between 2 candidates.
maybe take a look to lg products or htc but don't make a step into the past.

jineshpatel30 said:
hello guys ! i wanna upgrade to new device
and i'm confused between nexus 5 and moto x(2014) ?
i personally like pure vanilla aosp and this both have almost same though moto has some modification i don't think it will impact badly on performance ( does it? )
i love N5's fast update smooth performance even with some hardware compromises
but on other has moto x have better SD801 , and GUP freq 578 (vs 450 on N5) { will gaming performance be better ? } which in theory make it batter performance so if any anyone here can tell it's really an upgrade or i won't feel anything better
finally i like amoled but read somewhere that amoled pannel on moto x is worst qauily that samsung can make (really ?!!) , othere thing about camera ppl says it's 13MP is not as good as 8MP of N5 !! ( is it right ? ) and moto don't have notification led & OIS ( while taking pictures only does it matter ? )
so need your view should i go for moto X of stick again with relibale N5 ? will moto x be really upgrade ?
and how's lollipop on moto X ? ( i really like lollipop so hoping bugfree )
it will be really helpful if you can answer red marked questions
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I have and use both of those phones regularly and while the N5 is still a beast of a phone, the Moto X is easily the better of the two. The software mods that Motorola has done don't affect performance at all, and actually go a long way to making the Moto X what it is. Moto Display and Moto Voice are game changers. Gaming performance is great on both devices but slightly better on the Moto X. I can't say anything about lollipop because I don't like it at all and am keeping all my devices on KitKat indefinitely. If you get the X, which you should, make sure you buy the Pure Edition or at least one that's not branded by a carrier who doesn't allow bootloader unlocking. You need that unlockable bootloader in order to be able to root the phone.

Nexus 4 user -- curious about G experience

As mentioned, I'm a Nexus 4 owner. My phone has developed hardware problems though, and I'm looking at replacing it -- mainly focusing on the Moto G and E.
I'm not a hardcore phone user; other than communications mostly use it for music (Google, Pandora, Youtube), light reading, occasional surfing in line, and a single non-graphics intensive game. I also use my phone to double as a camera when I'm out walking and something cool comes up though, which is the main reason I'm considering the G over E. Price isn't a huge issue, but I don't see the need to buy some fancy $600 phone for my light use.
All that said, I'm not on a contract, and was wondering about the OS/experience/apps on the G/E. I've only ever been a Nexus owner, because I wanted to avoid carrier/manufacturer stuff. How easy/feasible is it to get to a version of the latest stock Android OS without any Motorola/etc. stuff on the phone -- essentially, to replicate my basic 4 interface/experience? How far behind are G OS updates behind stock Android updates? Is there any general timeline for how much longer it will continue to be updated?
Thank you for your time.

I Guess "The G" Will do Good for you....Provided you don't multi-task a lot.
There are also some Proper Exposure problems in Camera.But surely Its the Best out there in this Price range ( Except for some Phones like OnePlus One etc. but they too have their own Cons)
Regarding Updates to Android I Guess CyanogenMod 12.1 Is Good(If you want Pure Nexus Experience without Moto Stuff) but also If you prefer I guess even Stock might be Good and Stable.The CM ppl are doing a Good job in delivering Speedy Updates .The Moto G got updated to 5.1.1 really soon after the Source got released. Overall a really Good phone to Own.I think as per the Developer activity on the Phone the Moto Will receive Android M upgrade too .... Would Definitely recommend this Phone....

I also came from a nexus 4, which developed a dead touchscreen area...
The only thing I hate on this phone is the 1 gb of ram
I don't know about stock, because I always install cyanogen on the first day
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I had a N4 back to 2014.
Comparing to Moto G2, I dont notice much diference based on my light usage.
Cameras, display, battery life, speakers are better on G.
Performance, 2GB of RAM and design ( omg Nexus 4 is the sexiest phone ever) are pros for N4.
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I also came from N4. The only disadvantage is the RAM. All the rest is better on G.

I'm also eyeing on Moto G over Nexus 4 specially the dual sim version, i will use it only as back up phone, i already sold my Redmi 1s, i prefer stock android with fast OS updates.

Which is a better smartphone OP2 or Moto X Style?

Hey friends I would like to know which smartphone is better compared to battery life, camera, updates and over all performance and why?,

If you plan on unlocking the bootloader, but want to keep the factory warranty get the OPT. If you don't care about the warranty or you don't plan on unlocking the bootloader, then get the Moto X Style. I personally have the OPT, but that was just because of my great experience with the OPO. I was rather disappointed though. If I could do it all over again, I would have gotten the Nexus 6P or the Moto X Style.
I've been having some random freezing on my OPT. Mainly when pulling down the notification drawer. Pretty annoying to me, especially when my OPO still runs like a dream! OxygenOS isn't mature enough to be a widely used daily driver yet IMO.

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If you plan on unlocking the bootloader, but want to keep the factory warranty get the OPT. If you don't care about the warranty or you don't plan on unlocking the bootloader, then get the Moto X Style. I personally have the OPT, but that was just because of my great experience with the OPO. I was rather disappointed though. If I could do it all over again, I would have gotten the Nexus 6P or the Moto X Style.
I've been having some random freezing on my OPT. Mainly when pulling down the notification drawer. Pretty annoying to me, especially when my OPO still runs like a dream! OxygenOS isn't mature enough to be a widely used daily driver yet IMO.
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Okay.. Well lemme ask you something. If we unlock the bootloader in Moto X and then if we lock it back, don't you think we can get the warranty...? Something like we usually do in old days.

sam razzy said:
Okay.. Well lemme ask you something. If we unlock the bootloader in Moto X and then if we lock it back, don't you think we can get the warranty...? Something like we usually do in old days.
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I wouldn't count on that solution. You might could consider getting something like a 3rd party accidental warranty. That should keep it covered even if you unlock the bootloader.

Considering the camera which one would be better?

sam razzy said:
Considering the camera which one would be better?
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They're both very good. Pretty much interchangeable. After owning the op2 for about 5 months now I can't express enough how terribly I want a moto x. I've had quite a few problems with this phone, if you don't plan on rooting than the moto x is the easy winner

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They're both very good. Pretty much interchangeable. After owning the op2 for about 5 months now I can't express enough how terribly I want a moto x. I've had quite a few problems with this phone, if you don't plan on rooting than the moto x is the easy winner
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I got one more phone which I really looking forward - LG G4

Had the Moto X Style before and like the OPT more.

I have OPT. I rooted it, installed a bunch of xposed modules and whatnot. Never had any significant problems with it. Performance (antutu score is way better than Moto X) and battery life are great (GSam reports 5:45 SOT). Also consider the fact that a 64GB Moto X costs at least $100 more than OPT. There only two factors where Moto X excels: quick charging and screen resolution.

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I have OPT. I rooted it, installed a bunch of xposed modules and whatnot. Never had any significant problems with it. Performance (antutu score is way better than Moto X) and battery life are great (GSam reports 5:45 SOT). Also consider the fact that a 64GB Moto X costs at least $100 more than OPT. There only two factors where Moto X excels: quick charging and screen resolution.
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Screen resolution is debatable, less battery, less performance and working on adreno 418... That's a choice, not a pro, personally i love that Oneplus 2 has a FullHD display and not a QHD, i could bought LG G4, Moto x pure, or whatever 500uds or less. I decided Oneplus 2 and im very happy with my decisión. Thanks god i didnt belive the overheating rumors, they are exagerated, my nexus 5 got hotter.
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I got one more phone which I really looking forward - LG G4
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I was between the same devices. My decisión was LG G4 or Oneplus 2. Moto X it was my third choice.
I choose the op2 because of this:
-Full HD screen : more battery and less GPU demanding
-SoC: 810 vs 808. That means ram lpddr4 vs lpddr3, adreno 418 (qHD) vs adreno 430 (FHD).
About heating, because of the rumors oneplus throttle the devices too fast, if you edited the thermal file with boeffla kernel you could have awesome performance, for more info about throttle pm me.
-Fingerprint scanner.
-XDA community, not too much for no but it will grow up. Oneplus is contacting devs from XDA, that must be a good thing.
-Capacitive buttons, so it does not take space from the screen
-Alert slider is useful, but lg g4 volume buttons are very nice too.
-4gb vs 3gb, its not a real life difference but maybe it will be.
EDIT:- Better battery life. 3300mah vs 3000mah, also fhd vs qhd must make a difference.
About nfc, for almost 2 years i never use it on my nexus 5, so its not a problem for me.
Hope you can decide for the best, come with us :fingers-crossed:

About heat: The Moto X felt a lot warmer than my OPT

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About heat: The Moto X felt a lot warmer than my OPT
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I heard a lot about it

Me too, I've been wavering between OP2 and X Style for 1 month, view all youtube videos about those phones, borrow my friends'
Then OP2 was my final decision, and I don't regret about it
There's no better phones over others, just this phone is suitable for you than the others
In details:
OP2 vs X Style
Screen: FullHD 5.5" is enough
RAM: 4GB vs 3GB
CPU: 810 v2.1 vs 808
Storage: 64GB is enough for me, but X Style has an expandable slot
VGA: Adreno 430 vs Adreno 418
Sensors: Fingerprint scanner, doubletap2wake, Gyroscope.. I don't need Moto Voice or Moto Ambient Display
Battery: 3300 mAh vs 3000 mAh
This is just my humble opinions about OP2's strength, of course there're lots of pros of X Style that maybe suitable for you, for example NFC, quick charging, slightly better camera, durable brand name Motorola,...
I'm a fanboy of Motorola, but sorry Moto, my decision this time is OP2 =)

And the decision was...?
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LG G4
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Im in love with the UI and Camera. I used Nexus phones and OPO before. Total new experience with this..
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Moto X Play or LG G3

Hey there!
I've recently been looking for a new smartphone. I found two smartphones I like: the Motorola X Play and the LG G3. Problem is, I just can't decide which one to pick. Can somebody please help me out? Thank you in advance!

What phone are you moving on from?

gekkeman said:
Hey there!
I've recently been looking for a new smartphone. I found two smartphones I like: the Motorola X Play and the LG G3. Problem is, I just can't decide which one to pick. Can somebody please help me out? Thank you in advance!
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LG G3 - A yesteryear "FLAGSHIP"
MOTO X PLAY - A newer "MIDRANGER"
Hope you know what to expect from these respective devices.

Hi had 2 g3 superb phone specially the 4k screen but battery poor
Moto x play superb battery and performance
However the G3 let's you choose which apps go full screen no soft keys at the bottom without the needs of root or apps
Something I really miss going to x play
Plus the firmware upgrade are pants still waiting for marshmallow to come out officially here
Hope it helps

Chaotic-Entropy said:
What phone are you moving on from?
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I'm currently using a Microsoft Lumia 640.

richardrs123 said:
Hi had 2 g3 superb phone specially the 4k screen but battery poor
Moto x play superb battery and performance
However the G3 let's you choose which apps go full screen no soft keys at the bottom without the needs of root or apps
Something I really miss going to x play
Plus the firmware upgrade are pants still waiting for marshmallow to come out officially here
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I thought G3 had 2K screen?
Anyway, thanks for your comment! I'll take it into consideration.

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I thought G3 had 2K screen?
Anyway, thanks for your comment! I'll take it into consideration.
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My mistake pressed wrong key lol

After using a Nexus 5 for a couple years I was ready to move on to something with a larger screen. I initially went with the LG G3 and I liked the experience. The phone was snappy and did better than the Nexus 5 in benchmarks. However, I had what seemed to be a not so rare yet not so common issue. The phone would randomly shut off by itself and require a battery pull and reseat before it would turn back on. I had to pull the battery, hold the power button for 15 seconds and then reseat the battery. Happened every day, some days twice. Now I may have just gotten unlucky but I've read reports on various forums about this issue. Turns out on some of the G3s the molding of the battery compartment isn't fitted to the size of the battery properly, so the battery can shift to the side losing contact with the phone.
I took it back to the store and they didn't have any more G3s in stock to swap it out for so I opted for the Moto X Play. Under Lollipop the X Play has some performance issues, specifically when it comes to scrollable apps like Chrome. They tend to micro stutter and freeze while scrolling. Under Marshmallow the issue is largely resolved. It still happens but not nearly as often. There also seems to be an issue with performance drop over time. I have to factory reset every few weeks otherwise the phone slows right down to a crawl. The X Play is a mid range device with a SoC that is known to be lackluster (SnapDragon 615). It's priced accordingly. Theoretically it should be better than the G3 by a little bit since that SoC is technically a 64bit chip, however Motorola has stuck to only releasing 32bit builds for it so that theoretical performance advantage is not there. The G3 performs better in benchmarks.
It comes down to a simple choice.
LG G3 - Better performance with worse battery life.
Moto X Play - Much better battery life with worse performance.
Both devices should cost about the same.
After my experience with both devices I plan on buying either a Nexus 5X or Nexus 6P outright. I love the battery life in the X Play however having to factory reset every few weeks is a pain and Motorola just isn't as fast with updates anymore. They used to be, but with this phone there is no official communication so there is no telling when updates are being released, its hard to find fastboot flashable factory images (Only in a thread here on XDA and its filefactory so downloads are really slow) and updates are only marginally faster than other manufacturers.

ToYeD said:
After using a Nexus 5 for a couple years I was ready to move on to something with a larger screen. I initially went with the LG G3 and I liked the experience. The phone was snappy and did better than the Nexus 5 in benchmarks. However, I had what seemed to be a not so rare yet not so common issue. The phone would randomly shut off by itself and require a battery pull and reseat before it would turn back on. I had to pull the battery, hold the power button for 15 seconds and then reseat the battery. Happened every day, some days twice. Now I may have just gotten unlucky but I've read reports on various forums about this issue. Turns out on some of the G3s the molding of the battery compartment isn't fitted to the size of the battery properly, so the battery can shift to the side losing contact with the phone.
I took it back to the store and they didn't have any more G3s in stock to swap it out for so I opted for the Moto X Play. Under Lollipop the X Play has some performance issues, specifically when it comes to scrollable apps like Chrome. They tend to micro stutter and freeze while scrolling. Under Marshmallow the issue is largely resolved. It still happens but not nearly as often. There also seems to be an issue with performance drop over time. I have to factory reset every few weeks otherwise the phone slows right down to a crawl. The X Play is a mid range device with a SoC that is known to be lackluster (SnapDragon 615). It's priced accordingly. Theoretically it should be better than the G3 by a little bit since that SoC is technically a 64bit chip, however Motorola has stuck to only releasing 32bit builds for it so that theoretical performance advantage is not there. The G3 performs better in benchmarks.
It comes down to a simple choice.
LG G3 - Better performance with worse battery life.
Moto X Play - Much better battery life with worse performance.
Both devices should cost about the same.
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Okey, clear! Thanks for this information! Greatly aprreciated! I think I'll go with the Moto. You said you reset the phone regularly, because if you don't it will eventually become very slow. Do you have any knowledge whether this is a common problem?

gekkeman said:
Okey, clear! Thanks for this information! Greatly aprreciated! I think I'll go with the Moto. You said you reset the phone regularly, because if you don't it will eventually become very slow. Do you have any knowledge whether this is a common problem?
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Nothing concrete. Just a couple of others on these forums reporting the same, but a couple people doesn't mean it's an across the board issue. It's probably just an issue with a small fraction of the X plays produced. All I know is it was a hard decision going from a Nexus to a non Nexus device and my experience made it easy to decide to go back. You may not have any of these issues with either the g3 or the X Play.

Motorola build quality is better than LG's, and the X Play is a nicer object to hold, look at, and use than the G3.

I have both phones right in front of me right now..... and I prefer the LG G3.
Out of the box... the G3 has a nicer firmware with a LOT more options.
On the other hand, Motorolla has Marshmallow updates.
Pros LG G3
- much better camera, even if less pixels, the image quality is a lot clearer and less grainy. The laser focus helps a lot.
-better screen resolution (quad HD)
- more RAM (3Gb)
- removable battery
- 32gb of space
- to me, i feel the LG g3 feels less cheap than the motorolla, specially the buttons on the side of the motorolla feels cheap. Also dont like the fake leather back cover.
- phone speaker is louder. (not the loudspeaker)
-more cases and accessories atm. Lots of custom roms, easy to root and stuff.
Pros Moto X play
- brighter screen, more vibrant colors
- better battery life, but its also a bigger battery (but its non removable)
- 21mp camera in 4:3 mode..... but its very grainy. It has better low light performances than the G3 a little... but again... the result is VERY grainy.
- loudspeaker is louder than G3 but not as nice sounding
- good front camera
- bigger 8 core CPU
- faster in some apps, but not in everything.
So yeah.... I made my choice on the LG for the more customizable interface out of the box and the much better camera.
Other than that..... really similar phone. Performance are both nice and fast. they both have some apps they perform better than the other but cant really give a winner there.

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After using a Nexus 5 for a couple years I was ready to move on to something with a larger screen. I initially went with the LG G3 and I liked the experience. The phone was snappy and did better than the Nexus 5 in benchmarks. However, I had what seemed to be a not so rare yet not so common issue. The phone would randomly shut off by itself and require a battery pull and reseat before it would turn back on. I had to pull the battery, hold the power button for 15 seconds and then reseat the battery. Happened every day, some days twice. Now I may have just gotten unlucky but I've read reports on various forums about this issue. Turns out on some of the G3s the molding of the battery compartment isn't fitted to the size of the battery properly, so the battery can shift to the side losing contact with the phone.
I took it back to the store and they didn't have any more G3s in stock to swap it out for so I opted for the Moto X Play. Under Lollipop the X Play has some performance issues, specifically when it comes to scrollable apps like Chrome. They tend to micro stutter and freeze while scrolling. Under Marshmallow the issue is largely resolved. It still happens but not nearly as often. There also seems to be an issue with performance drop over time. I have to factory reset every few weeks otherwise the phone slows right down to a crawl. The X Play is a mid range device with a SoC that is known to be lackluster (SnapDragon 615). It's priced accordingly. Theoretically it should be better than the G3 by a little bit since that SoC is technically a 64bit chip, however Motorola has stuck to only releasing 32bit builds for it so that theoretical performance advantage is not there. The G3 performs better in benchmarks.
It comes down to a simple choice.
LG G3 - Better performance with worse battery life.
Moto X Play - Much better battery life with worse performance.
Both devices should cost about the same.
After my experience with both devices I plan on buying either a Nexus 5X or Nexus 6P outright. I love the battery life in the X Play however having to factory reset every few weeks is a pain and Motorola just isn't as fast with updates anymore. They used to be, but with this phone there is no official communication so there is no telling when updates are being released, its hard to find fastboot flashable factory images (Only in a thread here on XDA and its filefactory so downloads are really slow) and updates are only marginally faster than other manufacturers.
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I had to reset only once after updating to 6.0. Since then it's working fine. The lags are no more in 6.0.
Also sd615 has newer architecture so doesnt mean, it's better. It's still a mid range chip (615) and Motorola did the right thing by not providing the 64 but software. G3's maybe an old chip but that was a flagship chip and still is which has better performance than this newer chip.
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Nothing concrete. Just a couple of others on these forums reporting the same, but a couple people doesn't mean it's an across the board issue. It's probably just an issue with a small fraction of the X plays produced. All I know is it was a hard decision going from a Nexus to a non Nexus device and my experience made it easy to decide to go back. You may not have any of these issues with either the g3 or the X Play.
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Okey, thanks a lot!

I also had the same dilema. Went with the Moto X Play and a month later I know I made the right choice. Amazing design, great screen, amazing battery life and stock android is WAY WAY WAY better then LG`s nasty UI. Oh am I am getting updates haha.

obviously MXP , how many phones out there give 10hours of SOT and that's with dual sim ??
I will gladly trade a few cores for extra SOT.

gekkeman said:
Okey, clear! Thanks for this information! Greatly aprreciated! I think I'll go with the Moto. You said you reset the phone regularly, because if you don't it will eventually become very slow. Do you have any knowledge whether this is a common problem?
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Hey I thought I'd give my thoughts. I've owned both and I gotta say although I loved the G3, after having the battery life of the x play I could not go back. As far as the slowing down if you are in XDA and flashing roms then that's not something I would be too concerned with in the near future (say 2 years). I also found no matter which rom I used on the G3 it seemed to want to overheat a lot. Just my thoughts, hope it helps.

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Hey I thought I'd give my thoughts. I've owned both and I gotta say although I loved the G3, after having the battery life of the x play I could not go back. As far as the slowing down if you are in XDA and flashing roms then that's not something I would be too concerned with in the near future (say 2 years). I also found no matter which rom I used on the G3 it seemed to want to overheat a lot. Just my thoughts, hope it helps.
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Could you tell me something about what roms exactly are?

I see them as operating systems for the phone, think of the equivalent of different versions of Windows for your phone (XP, Windows 7, or 10) they key here is that they are somewhat personalized and give you different looks and functions that perhaps your stock experience wouldn't. An example of this is better battery life, or options such as changing the look of the whole user experience. They also, and for the most part, enhance your phones capabilities(responsiveness and security) and give you quicker updates than lg or Motorola would. Hope this helps.
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bablu048 said:
obviously MXP , how many phones out there give 10hours of SOT and that's with dual sim ??
I will gladly trade a few cores for extra SOT.
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You're absolutely right. I've made up my mind and decided to go with the Moto. All I have to do now is find a carrier that meets my needs, order the phone and enjoy it;s great features, one of which is the great SOT!

Better than Moto X Pure

Hey guys, I'm a Verizon customer and my 2 requirements in a phone are unlockable bootloader and sd card support. Since my options are scarce (CDMA compatibility) I've been using a 64GB Moto X Pure since they launched last year. I recently stumbled across the Moto G4 Plus and noticed that it fits my criteria for a smart phone.
Does anyone who owns a G4 Plus also own a MXP? They seem to be about the same size. The MXP has a better camera and screen resolution while the G4+ has a octa core processor. I'd much appreciate anyone's feedback who owns both phones. How do they compare in normal/heavy use, not just on paper?
Source - http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...la-Moto-X-Pure-Edition-2015/phones/10053,9694

The Moto X Pure is much better in almost every way.

G4 Plus has a better camera, especially in low light situations. Fingerprint reader is super fast and I use it every day.
And the model with 64GB storage /4GB RAM is fast enough for every need. Who cares what a benchmark say? Nobody uses a benchmark daily...
Screen resolution? 520 ppi vs 401 ppi? Who cares, in order to see that you need to burry your face into the display or, if you are over 40yrs, you need two pairs of glasses to see that density!
PS: That comparison link is wrong, because that's not the US version of G4 Plus, it has the wrong LTE bands!

I ordered one off eBay that someone had lost the IMEI from flashing the wrong rom. Obviously I didn't pay full price. I'm hoping I can flash a stock rom and fix it.
If anyone has a link to the best restore file it would be appreciated. I tried to download from File Factory last night but after an hour or so the download failed. It's a US Moto G4 Plus 64GB.
Or if anyone else has tips about restoring the IMEI that would be great.
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joshw0000 said:
I ordered one off eBay that someone had lost the IMEI from flashing the wrong rom. Obviously I didn't pay full price. I'm hoping I can flash a stock rom and fix it.
If anyone has a link to the best restore file it would be appreciated. I tried to download from File Factory last night but after an hour or so the download failed. It's a US Moto G4 Plus 64GB.
Or if anyone else has tips about restoring the IMEI that would be great.
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Look at the link below, it should be there. It's a link from Root Junky's site and should be good.
https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=72578

Def not a great camera. It is decent and great for the price but not great. It is mediocre at best. The videos are mediocre too.

Tel864 said:
Look at the link below, it should be there. It's a link from Root Junky's site and should be good.
https://androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=72578
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Thanks I actually found that link last night and downloaded ATHENE_AMZ_MPJ24.139-64_65_cid50_amz.tgz. I have no idea what system version this phone will have installed when I receive it or what the current version is but this one had the newest upload date so I hope it's the newest one.
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Try the one without amz, that is for the Amazon devices.

SoNic67 said:
Try the one without amz, that is for the Amazon devices.
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I also downloaded this one -
XT1625-XT1644_ATHENE_RETUS_MPJ24.139-64_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip
Hopefully one of these will work.
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The last one is the one that it works right now in my XT1644.

Nevermind. The @$$hole had been on XDA every day since he sold me the phone and supposedly shipped it to me. I checked the tracking # yesterday and USPS had never received it. I sent him a message about it. He first replied that he was shipping it tomorrow (today), then immediately replied that his son dropped and busted.
Why sell something on eBay if you're not sure that you want to sell it yet?
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Btw you should get better battery life on the g4 because of Smaller resolution and same battery. If I recall the mxp also has 3k mah. The CPU should also use less energy, not sure on that.
Overall, you're downgrading, especially camera. I like the g4 plus even on 2gb memory. It's smooth and decent battery life. Fingerprint is fast. You don't really have a choice imo. You may even opt for the regular g4 imo. Not much difference outside camera.

MC FLMJ1G said:
Btw you should get better battery life on the g4 because of Smaller resolution and same battery. If I recall the mxp also has 3k mah. The CPU should also use less energy, not sure on that.
Overall, you're downgrading, especially camera. I like the g4 plus even on 2gb memory. It's smooth and decent battery life. Fingerprint is fast. You don't really have a choice imo. You may even opt for the regular g4 imo. Not much difference outside camera.
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Good information. Thanks.
I currently have the moto g4 play (Verizon version)
and I'm thinking about getting the Moto X Pure or the Moto G4 for the bigger display and hd calling. I have read that both phones have a problem with overheating. (The Qualcomm snapdragon 808 and 617 processors are known for overheating issues). I would lean toward the Moto G4 but it seems the overheating issue is a bigger problem with the G4 than the Moto X pure.
What are your thoughts on the overheating issues?

classic757 said:
Good information. Thanks.
I currently have the moto g4 play (Verizon version)
and I'm thinking about getting the Moto X Pure or the Moto G4 for the bigger display and hd calling. I have read that both phones have a problem with overheating. (The Qualcomm snapdragon 808 and 617 processors are known for overheating issues). I would lean toward the Moto G4 but it seems the overheating issue is a bigger problem with the G4 than the Moto X pure.
What are your thoughts on the overheating issues?
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I have a G4 Plus and it heats, but it doesnt overheat. I tested playing 3 games at the same time and plugged the TurboCharger for 30m and it got very hot like 47° but look what i was doing.
Heats yes, of course but it doesn't overheat. I have a friend who has a LG G3, that phone really overheats. Reachs 60° only playing a game, and 43° in stock. Insane.

joa8000 said:
I have a G4 Plus and it heats, but it doesnt overheat. I tested playing 3 games at the same time and plugged the TurboCharger for 30m and it got very hot like 47° but look what i was doing.
Heats yes, of course but it doesn't overheat. I have a friend who has a LG G3, that phone really overheats. Reachs 60° only playing a game, and 43° in stock. Insane.
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Oh okay. Thanks.
I really like the moto g4 play and feel I would like the moto g4(don't want the plus 'cause I don't need or use a fingerprint sensor and there's not that many upgrades that
justify me getting the plus over the regular g4).
My concern is that I play a lot of music videos on my phone and when I tested a Moto X Pure in store,
the phone got hot after watching a music video on YouTube for only about two or three minutes, so I was like okay don't think I want to mess with that.
I'm thinking it might be the same or worse with the moto g4.
I don't want a fire trap for a phone.
May try the moto g4 and if I do experience constant overheating I'll simply return it.

I personally think it's a mix between:
Better camera, fingerprint sensor (and a good one), & battery life with the g4 plus
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Better performance (both cpu and gpu, especially gpu and overall performance) & maybe the fact there is more community support since it's been out for a while, for the x pure.
Can't be asked about the heat problems that some users are having with either, I ran antutu benchmark on both g4 plus and x pure and none got hot to the point where you couldn't hold it or have it feel like it was burning you. US variants of course.