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I'm going to admit I'm biased already on several levels:
* I hate waiting for OS updates from carriers/OEM's
* My usual M.O. is not to be an early adopter of any just-released tech
* The N4 specs aren't that far behind the 2013 flagships
* My carrier supports DC HSPA speeds
* No bloatware
But I have a few questions:
Do you think judging by past patterns, that the N4 will continue to get updates well ahead of HTC for the next year from April even though it's been out since November 2012?
Do you think the N4's specs will give it a shelf life as long as the HTC One for at least another year in terms of performance and speed?
How is 4.2.2 on the N4? Did it still remain fast? Is this a fast and lag free phone compared to this year's OEM flagships? I played around with its carrier branded sister the LGOG and it was extremely fast and smooth just running in ICS so I'm hoping the N4 on JB is also, is it?
And just for the record, I'm not concerned about another Nexus hitting the shelf this fall, if that happens I'll just ebay this one and buy the next.
Thanks in advance!
It will get the updates, 4.2.2 is great, and it'll perform perfectly fine for probably 2 years. I don't see quad core as ever really becoming too slow, in fact I don't think it will go much further than quad core.
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Had Htc one s for two weeks and after getting N4 I don't regret sending it back.
Btw I'm not the biggest fan of sense os so that would have to go too straight away lol
On N4 I'm still on stock 4.2.1 (lack of time ) and it's super smooth
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If you like to or plan to flash and do heavy mods to the OS then stick with the N4. Well already have a more active developer community. And if want the latest greatest version of Android you always have to do Nexus device
If picture quality is important to you then do the HTC One (Optical image stabilization and superior low light performance).
If you watch a lot of YouTube or listen to music using the phone speakers, the front facing stereo speakers on the One will be beneficial.
Both have very good build quality but the front and back edge to edge glass on the N4 make it less drop friendly than the aluminum unibody of the One.
In day to day stuff I don't think you'll see a huge difference in performance between the two so I'd call that a wash.
Tough call. Both are great phones. Just depends on your priorities.
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The one is going to be a bad ass phone, but you have to like sense...which i do. Some people hate it.
But, if you plan on getting the one and flashing and doing all that, I'd just go with the n4.
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If you have the money then a HTC one
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I think you answered your own question lol. I mean how much better can "specs" get for a phone? And why do we need these specs to reach such heights? Do we just want these "specs" just to say we have them? Because that's what it seems like at this point...2gb ram + quad core takes care of my needs and should for the next 2 years.
It just seems like people are waiting for the next best thing and I don't see it getting much better for a phone of this quality at this price point off contract. Not to mention, no bloatware, the dev community and the quick updates. I guess I'm just a simple man
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When folks come over here and ask which phone they should get, I laugh hard. You will always get a bias answer.
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If you like to customize, nexus.
If you're more like an iPhone user, go HTC
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id say nexus 4. tthe htc one is so nice and i would buy it but i bet you you can buy 2 of these Nexus 4s for the price of a HTC One on release. And US release is delayed to end of april. And if you want sense 5 because ofthe dev community here, I bet you can get it.There's not much going for the htc one unless you want the actual hardware and the ultrapixel camera, etc. but very steep in price. if you have tmobile, nexus 4 is future proof for LTE.
Definitely the nexus 4. unless you want to stay with Jelly bean forever
The worst part of HTC is the CID numbers, if you don`t have the international CID you can root what you want but you will not be able to update to the latest version untill it is released for your region/carrier. BTW unlocking the bootloader may void warranty, even if restored too stock RUU it wil stay say RELOCKED. For me never again HTC. So as you may have guessed i would choose the N4 handsdown.
Htc phones arent future proof
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I would wait for 6 months and buy the next htc. This one is almost there but not quite yet.
Made my choice
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Made my choice
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And a good choice that is! The One is an excellent phone but once you go aosp it's hard to go back to OEM skins, especially with software updates and the next version of Android is nearing ever close and you'll get to enjoy pretty much soon after rather than wait for carrier or OEM to update them!
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I've been debating buying a Nexus 4 for awhile. At this point, do you guys still think its worth it? I've heard rumors that they might be coming out with a new model this year, plus we have the GS4 and the HTCOne coming out very shortly. Do you guys think its worth the money? I really like the OS, no carrier stuff in it. Plus I'm off contract with ATT, so I dont have to worry about that, ill have good service.
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I would still buy it. The N5 is still a rumour and anyway regardless if it does come out you'll always get OS updates before Samsung and HTC.
Maybe wait for a while for the much rumoured Motorola x? Nexus 4 is worth the money. You get what you paid for. Except for sd card and battery life, everything about this is excellent! I am overlooking the camera cuz no one should expect a dslr quality image from a mobile phone.
I am very happy with my nexus 4. Whoever I show it to, is really pleased with design of this device. They have never heard of this phone. In fact the nexus line. Imho, if you look for features on a smartphone go for Samsung, if you look for pure stock experience with updates and support go for nexus 4.
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Just buy it For example, look at the galaxy nexus its been 2 years since its release and its still going strong
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Nexus 4 was released in November. Today it's the 1st of April. Yep, almost a year, only some 7 months short..
Hmm OK, I'll probably pick one up then. I'm just tired of always purchasing the newest handsets to have the features, i just want them when they come out lol. Plus i really like how smooth the android experience is with how google sets up their phones. Are they really heavy by chance?
And I also don't think nexus 5 will support sd card, instead more storage size will be available along with cloud
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Hmm OK, I'll probably pick one up then. I'm just tired of always purchasing the newest handsets to have the features, i just want them when they come out lol. Plus i really like how smooth the android experience is with how google sets up their phones. Are they really heavy by chance?
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Heavy?????? I wouldn't say so at 139 grams.
It is hard to me to get any other android phone these days. I used to work at sprint and hated that they weren't going to have nexus 4, galaxy nexus was just too old at the time and with no voice and data...
I have used gs3 and one x plenty, neither work as well as stock android. Touch wiz is buggy and takes away core features while adding new ones that don't work too well, aside from being very laggy compared to stock.
Sense is not bad, but multitasking on it is horrific, even if you root it.
Both aren't great with software updates, HTC ones never come and Samsung ones end up buggy in most cases.
Motorola ui thus far is too inferior to even consider. Point is, no thing really compared to stock in my opinion. You may see much better benchmarks on gs4 but I doubt day to day it'd prove as stable and smooth as n4.
So, to me... Yes, worth the money, specially considering you'd get one for less than $400 with no contract! My only major issue with n4 is the antenna, it is subpar compared to other devices, same was for gn.
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a year old lol its not even 5 month old yet came out the back end of November 2012
What I suggest is find a decently spec phone from sprint and put AOSP on the device and tweak the hell out of it.
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Yeah, i just bought one. I hear the camera is pretty bad, but i never take pictures. I'm sure if i need to it will work for me. Everything else I've heard is positive. Can't wait to get it. I'm going to be going from LTE to HSPA again though, that should still be plenty fast for me.
lol @ almost a year old. April 13th will be 5 months. And yes i would suggest it if you like stock android. If your more into skins and bloat, go for the HTC one or the S4 at nearly double the price.
Yeah, that's my fault. I thought they came out last summer, didn't know they were that new yet. I'm just tired of all the manufacturers screwing with the phones, and the constant problems. Plus the fact that you never see updates, ever. I have a OneX now, and im so tired of how sluggish and slow it is. Plus i have constant problems with it anymore.
Just hoping this is a good move. I can't wait to get it and start using it.
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Yeah, that's my fault. I thought they came out last summer, didn't know they were that new yet. I'm just tired of all the manufacturers screwing with the phones, and the constant problems. Plus the fact that you never see updates, ever. I have a OneX now, and im so tired of how sluggish and slow it is. Plus i have constant problems with it anymore.
Just hoping this is a good move. I can't wait to get it and start using it.
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updates are immediately, you will never regret a Nexus phone
I've asked myself the same questions as yourself before buying myself the nexus 4.
First, looking at timeline of nexus device releases, I've noticed it releases one at every year. So i assume the next nexus phone will only be here by November-December 2013 even if it will be announced at the May Google I/O.
Galaxy S4 is indeed a great device specwise (even better if you can get the 8 core version). But for me, it's still not a Nexus device, the build quality must be inferior to the current Nexus 4 (based on S3), looks exactly like the S3 which is EXTREMELY popular device (not unique), and the Nexus 4 is much more affordable priced.
HTC One, the only thing that will attract me over the nexus 4 is the full aluminum body. Not a Sense fan. That's it.
So with all those, i ended up with the Nexus 4 and I don't regret it.
Its not even halfway to a year old. Its not outdated hardware. S4 Pro is still one of Qualcomms fastest chips. and the Snapdragon 600 uses the same gpu "Adreno 320"
Almost a year? N4 might be too complicated for you.
And yeah google will release another nexus phone...probably 7months from. The N4 is still the best android phone out and it is the best out of the box android device I've used in 4yrs of android by far.
Its blazing fast despite using an older soc. Faster as there's hardly any overlay on it. Next phone will probably be the X phone which will rumoured boasts the S800 which will be fast but the N4 is no slouch.
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Nexus 4 was released in November. Today it's the 1st of April. Yep, almost a year, only some 7 months short..
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And most people didn't get their until January!
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Hey guys,
I am thinking about getting a Nexus 4 to replace my HTC Sensation. The Sensation has many problems such as huge battery drain and it gets extremely hot during usage. So I thought the Nexus 4 would be a great idea. Pure Android (huge fan of that, was using CM for a long time on my Senny) and Google Support sound good and the price seems to be okay to (I could buy a 16GB variant for about 310€).
Is this phone great? Is it still worth buying considering it's already nearly a year old? Does it have some know problems such as huge battery drain or display problems?
I need this phone for browsing, using the calendar, writing emails/sms and sometimes taking photos. I don't play any games on it except 4 pictures 1 word.
Thanks in advance!
I too came from a Sensation, and it's a fine upgrade, for all the reasons you mention. Perhaps not as durable as HTC's build quality, so be sure to include a decent cover (I use the Diztronic TPU and it looks factory) to protect that beautiful glass. It's a joy to use..you can't go wrong. Cheers!
I just got one a couple days ago. I'm really liking it. Great jump from a galaxy s2
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I just got one a couple days ago. I'm really liking it. Great jump from a galaxy s2
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I came from a galaxy s2, and previously HOX tegra. I bought a N4 2 weeks ago, and in stock its pretty smooth, awesome i'd say. Better price/performance choice. You wont regret
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I bought a Nex4 about 6 weeks ago after being a long term BB user, our company provide BB but have just let us go BYOD. I got N4 to replace the BB and so far it hasn't disappointed in any way. I also wanted the pure Android experience after my N10. The phone has been a good choice.
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Honestly, if that is all you use your phone for, you should get the Lumia 1020. But if you want to stay with Android and can wait 4 more months, the 5th Nexus will be out then and should the price be as low as the Nexus4, then it would be better to get that.
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Honestly, if that is all you use your phone for, you should get the Lumia 1020. But if you want to stay with Android and can wait 4 more months, the 5th Nexus will be out then and should the price be as low as the Nexus4, then it would be better to get that.
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The Lumia 1020 would be out of the price range. I'd never pay 400€+ for a phone I only use for work. I probably can't wait till the next release because the Senny really bugs me. I can't use a phone which burns in my hand because it's getting extremely hot while chewing through battery like nothing. My Sensation barely gets through the day with moderate use.
€: And I don't like WP because I'm a huge fan of costumization.
Keep the Sensation or whatever you have and wait for Nexus 5, trust me on this.
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Keep the Sensation or whatever you have and wait for Nexus 5, trust me on this.
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I can't sincerely tell someone to purchase a 7 month old device when knowing a faster device will come for the same price in due time.
Well you can go on buying Nexus 4, everything is a beauty when you compare prices and then it is a google phone so it always have it perks.
If you think you should wait for nexus 5 then its not very much pretty soon bcz this time google launched s4 and htc one as google variant which means next nexus will take time.
Your tasks which u need to perform as you have mentioned would all be performed very well.
Tip I can give even for better battery.
Unlock the bootloader, use custom recovery such as CWM and flash CM 10.1 stable releases which ever is latest.
Find franco kernel and flash that and for better colours use its colour profile.
You will have an outstanding experiance with great display and great battery time.
Best of luck.
NOTE. All decision is urs what ever suits you best.
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I can't sincerely tell someone to purchase a 7 month old device when knowing a faster device will come for the same price in due time.
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People will and should buy the device that suits their needs and the price they are willing to pay.
If you want a unlocked / contract free phone the device is a good choice
The entire motion that a new device will be out in a couple months is pointless. He wants a phone now. A couple months is just that. A couple months living with a phone he doesn't want. Then when the next nexus device comes out there will be the next best thing on the horizon.
He a is a basic user that doesn't participate in the stupid I need the lastest and greatest hw spec race.
Sitting around waiting for 4 plus months for a device is just stupid.
Why buy a HTC one now? The plus version is coming? Why by a s4 now? The advanced or whatever version with the 800 is coming in a couple of months.
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People will and should buy the device that suits their needs and the price they are willing to pay.
If you want a unlocked / contract free phone the device is a good choice
The entire motion that a new device will be out in a couple months is pointless. He wants a phone now. A couple months is just that. A couple months living with a phone he doesn't want. Then when the next nexus device comes out there will be the next best thing on the horizon.
He a is a basic user that doesn't participate in the stupid I need the lastest and greatest hw spec race.
Sitting around waiting for 4 plus months for a device is just stupid.
Why buy a HTC one now? The plus version is coming? Why by a s4 now? The advanced or whatever version with the 800 is coming in a couple of months.
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To each their own, I cannot speak for the needs of TC nor their personal interests. Whether he's comfortable with waiting X months is currently unknown and has not been divulged in this topic, so we can agree to disagree.
He said he probably can't wait for the next release because his phone bugs him.
Even a device like the HTC first would suit him fine hardware and software wise. Not unlocked and cheap of course ( don't even think it launched outside the US or unlocked) but just talking the device itself
There are plenty of users who are not concerned with the I can read the spec sheet pissing matches. Wait for the latest and greatest chip so they can have a higher score in benchmarks etc.
Its definitely still worth buying full price. Its a great device especially if you're a fan of stock android like you said.
Happy phoning.
I really don't need high specs. Benchmarks never intersted me because at the end you probably won't feel any difference between for example the snapdragon 600 and the snapdragon 800 in everyday use. I just want the phone to work well without stuttering and without any hick ups.
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If you need a phone now, just go for it. If you are not in a hurry, you can wait and see what comes up. IMO I usually don't want the first batch of the phone anyway since they are usually the ones with problems.
just buy it
I highly recommend nexus 4.. Believe me it's as smooth as HTC one out even better..
Root and flash cyanogenmod and Franco kernel... That made me a delighted user from a happy user...
Besides it'll have developer support for hell lot of a time to come... Even after people forget about HTC one and s4..
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I'm going to buy it at the end of August and I think it is still worth it. However reading this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2259334 scaried me!
http://gizmodo.com/google-is-selling-motorola-to-lenovo-1511898199
Guys, we have a lenovo phone now...
I can only predict darkness in our future...
Yep, that made it worse for getting some code or new updates...
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Well, lenorola is the biggest mobile manufacture for intel right now, so maybe thats good? but lets be honest, in the mid term it doesn't change a thing for us, just like it didn't change anything to the previous owners of motorola devices before the acquisition by google, the exchange is going to be effective in a couple of months, so whatever we get an update to kitkat/4.3/4.2/nothing is still up to googlerola and/or Intel.
I always wanted to try out Lenovo phones, now I can finally do it without spending any money at all
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Yep, when you realise that Moto apparently lost $1.2bn on turnover of $4.7bn in the last year, it makes you realise what a basket case it is. That's 25% of the money we pay for our phones goes straight down the drain - hey if anyone wants to give me some money, and I'll only give you 75% of it back, I'm interested. And Razr i wasn't anywhere near its best selling phone, or even sold in its major market. And we seriously expect the new owners to throw even more good money after bad?
It's the economics . . .
But if anyone has ideas how to squeeze some profit from us Razr i users and turn a thumping loss into a profit, then I guess Lenovo would be glad to hear from you. But I won't be sending them a donation, I'll pass on that one.
Sure I have an idea: $10 for the update. I would have paid that until google and moto drove me away to become an iTard.
#nihaomoto
Well, I guess I'm moving to Apple
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lenovo sucks
I am glad for google and their patents. Less Apple BS. We are screwed though.
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as the title says! who's upgrading from oneplus one to oneplus two like me ?
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I don`t see why,our phone is great and there is not much added to opo 2, the powerful processors that noboby needs,our 2.5 doing well till now,4gb ram? who needs this huge ram?? 3 is more than enough for now
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I don`t see why,our phone is great and there is not much added to opo 2, the powerful processors that noboby needs,our 2.5 doing well till now,4gb ram? who needs this huge ram?? 3 is more than enough for now
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Totally agree I think the One still has good specs which will last me a good while. Plus as the one has been out for 15 months there will be more mod support for it. Only thing I would like is OIS and laser auto but for my usage its a niggle rather than a problem. Looking forward to COS12.1 and Oxygen v2 though. Probably will flash Cyanogenmod later down the line though.
The Moto X Style looks like it might be a better phone than the Oneplus 2 to me, but neither are a big enough leap to have me pining for a new phone. I'll be sticking with the OPO for at least another year, and I can even envision stretching it into 2017 unless there's a really compelling leap in tech. To me we're at the point where these incremental updates really aren't doing much.
If they buy back my OPO, then I can move to OP2.
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The Moto X Style looks like it might be a better phone than the Oneplus 2 to me, but neither are a big enough leap to have me pining for a new phone. I'll be sticking with the OPO for at least another year, and I can even envision stretching it into 2017 unless there's a really compelling leap in tech. To me we're at the point where these incremental updates really aren't doing much.
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Me too, I've seen moto x style better option than opo2, still I will stay with opo
This comparative Is nice
http://www.phonearena.com/news/10-r...-is-a-better-phone-than-the-OnePlus-2_id72086
Negative captain, staying on one plus one
Not much of a price difference and I have a stupid obsession of buying things I don't need, I'll sell my opo unscratched un dropped for as much as I can and hope for the best. I have issues...
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The missing NFC is a big factor in my decision.... so NO ...staying put with the oneplusone
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Im not!No Cyanogen No Love...No NFC, Ugly design...
I RSVP'd attendance to the event here in Paris.. My wife said I could buy it if I like it, but really, even after getting to see it in person tomorrow I doubt I get it.. It falls short so far to me, plus I rather like this community.. Who knows how long I'll wait to flash anything custom..
I'll report back after caressing the screen of the 2..
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Unless there's huge hardware improvements that rumors haven't been release I will stay with my OPO
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I am if i get an invite before i'm 75 years old... New toys, got to have NEW TOYS !
Nopes! There's no point at all to upgrade to OP2 from OPO considering it's just a refreshed version, nothing major is introduced. Instead, they stripped down some features. OPO is still performing amazingly well and the dev support is just awesome.
i will and of course i'll keep my ONE as well while the nexus 5 goes to my grand son. easy as that.
I unlock my Lastpass using NFC so I will definitely not buy it UNLESS I Lastpass will work with the fingerprint scanner of the OP2.
If the new nexus disappoints or is too high a price for the hardware then I might as well.
NFC I never use and I charge my phone overnight anyway. I'll be giving my one to my dad if that happens
Edit: you know what probably not since its heavier and thicker. I really don't like that aspect mostly the thicker part. Since there some metal I expect it heavier anyway
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i will and of course i'll keep my ONE as well while the nexus 5 goes to my grand son. easy as that.
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You can get the Moto X Style it's a much better phone than the Oneplus Two
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no way!! I'm not jumping through the hoop again for an invite. I'm settled now and their customer services suks. Maybe op3 or op4 when I can buy instantly.
No way lol. I'm getting one of the new Nexus phones most probably. Then jump to the OP3.