Is it possible to use wireless hotspot without a subscription? - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a Verizon with a grandfathered unlimited data plan. I used to use it a lot with my Samsung Galaxy S3 but a forced update broke this functionality. I would like to upgrade phones and want to know if the Moto X Style/Pure can do subscription-less wireless hotspots? If so, how?

I will venture a guess and say that FoxFi won't work on this. From my small amount of research so far, it sounds like FoxFi doesn't work on Motos. Poeple have also seemed to have bad luck with other app store tethering apps on the Motos. With that said, this being "unlocked," I don't know if the native tethering settings will work.
Either way, I'm assuming if this has an unlocked bootloader and we can root... I'm sure there will be a way around.

Bwangster12 said:
I will venture a guess and say that FoxFi won't work on this. From my small amount of research so far, it sounds like FoxFi doesn't work on Motos. Poeple have also seemed to have bad luck with other app store tethering apps on the Motos. With that said, this being "unlocked," I don't know if the native tethering settings will work.
Either way, I'm assuming if this has an unlocked bootloader and we can root... I'm sure there will be a way around.
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Thank you for answering my question. Do you know if it makes a difference if I purchase a Moto X Style vs a Pure?
My assumption is that the Style will be locked by Verizon while the Pure should not be locked? If it is the same thing, I will buy a style since I can get that subsidized with a 2 year plan if this is not the case I will purchase a Pure from a third party.

I have used foxfi in the past with moto phones. I have not needed it since loosing my unlimited data. Those phones were on pre 5.0 android. I have not kept up to see if they have updated it to work on 5.0 and later.
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On the droid turbo, nothing worked.
However as long as we get root, which I think will happen. They can modify the apk not to check for hotspot provisions.
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Since this is an unlocked phone, wouldn't it work just like how Nexus devices work? I assumed that since you wouldn't have any of Verizon's software it wouldn't do the tethering check.

mythicdark said:
I have a Verizon with a grandfathered unlimited data plan. I used to use it a lot with my Samsung Galaxy S3 but a forced update broke this functionality. I would like to upgrade phones and want to know if the Moto X Style/Pure can do subscription-less wireless hotspots? If so, how?
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Yes - Its just like the Nexus (baked in with no service Check) - Tested using ATT.

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Yes - Its just like the Nexus (baked in with no service Check) - Tested using ATT.
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My next phone.
Heck, I don't even need to root if that's the case.

Me too! If I can tether out of the box, I won't need to root either, though I'll probably unlock the bootloader on day 1, since that wipes the device.
I read elsewhere that it is advisable to do the initial setup over wifi, with no sim, to prevent the device from downloading and VZW software that may prompt the device to check for subscription before starting hotspot.
I know it isn't that hard to watch a tutorial and root, but with OTA's popping up, it would be nice if I didn't need to root.

According to @spotmark in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...o-x-2015-pure-edition-waiting-t3192510/page51 it's confirmed working on Verizon with Unlimited Data, no tethering subscription!!

If you're unlocked and rooted, you don't need Foxfi or any other third party app. Native Hotspot works fine
(I'm on Verizon)

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Yes - Its just like the Nexus (baked in with no service Check) - Tested using ATT.
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Not true. I'm with Straight Talk (AT&T) and it wouldn't let me tether. There is a provisioning check. I had to root to get tethering.

Straight Talk is not ATT. It uses other carriers networks to provide service. That's not the same as having serivce directly from ATT. I have Verizon and ATT, tethering worked on both without root.

I'm on Sprint 10+ years and I root and enable native tethering on all of my phones since the Evo.Sprint has never said a word.I average 20-30 GB of data a month .

sprint limits hotspot data
Hi, have a quick question. I am on a simply everything plan at sprint for 70 bucks a month. But they check if I use the unlimited data with my hotspot. If I tether they limit the data to 3 GB a month and charge if I get over that. Is there a way to get around that?

TexDoe said:
Hi, have a quick question. I am on a simply everything plan at sprint for 70 bucks a month. But they check if I use the unlimited data with my hotspot. If I tether they limit the data to 3 GB a month and charge if I get over that. Is there a way to get around that?
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Nope, can't do that... It's stealing...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64741769&postcount=4

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Enabling the Tethering App (hotspot) on Verizon Galaxy s5

Has anyone figured out the best way to enable the wifi tethering capability?
I know on the s4, all the roms came out with this feature, it seems the s5 is still not rooted yet, what is everyone using, exploit or app?
this has been posted, but the best way to accomplish this right now without root is with FoxFi ( paid as far as i know and use now ) .. then USB or Bluetooth tether. you can then while tethered activate "wifi share" for your wifi devices. ..... if there is another method please someone post it!
verizon s5 are not allowed to do it..
Wow, what in the world is going on here...
Verizon may have made their last move. I just bought my phone with new 2 year contract, can i return and cancel my contract within a certain time period or am I inevitably effed?
I can not and will not put up with anymore of big Red's nazi ways, I am paying for a service and at the price im paying more than justifies my using of said service in any and every way that i want. If this does not get resolved soon, its a deal breaker for me and verizon. Not that it will make any difference...
and I hate that it would essentially make me move to a lesser carrier with less coverage and internet speed, but big red is starting to do that guv'mint thinking and i dont like where this is headed.
inebriat3d said:
this has been posted, but the best way to accomplish this right now without root is with FoxFi ( paid as far as i know and use now ) .. then USB or Bluetooth tether. you can then while tethered activate "wifi share" for your wifi devices. ..... if there is another method please someone post it!
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donkey poo!!!
I require a real wifi tether, usb and bluetooth are too restrictive and time consuming.
I hope a few of the more experienced devs can chime in on whether this is something to wait for or just return/sell the device immediately?
naturalstamina said:
Wow, what in the world is going on here...
Verizon may have made their last move. I just bought my phone with new 2 year contract, can i return and cancel my contract within a certain time period or am I inevitably effed?
I can not and will not put up with anymore of big Red's nazi ways, I am paying for a service and at the price im paying more than justifies my using of said service in any and every way that i want. If this does not get resolved soon, its a deal breaker for me and verizon. Not that it will make any difference...
and I hate that it would essentially make me move to a lesser carrier with less coverage and internet speed, but big red is starting to do that guv'mint thinking and i dont like where this is headed.
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If you have one of their new plans which I'm assuming you do since you upgraded, you absolutely can use native hotspot. I ran it yesterday. You have to turn it on via settings instead of the traditional way of tapping the Wi-Fi app.
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Settings->More networks->Mobile hotspot
tpike said:
If you have one of their new plans which I'm assuming you do since you upgraded, you absolutely can use native hotspot. I ran it yesterday. You have to turn it on via settings instead of the traditional way of tapping the Wi-Fi app.
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I upgraded, and paid full price for it....
kprice8 said:
I upgraded, and paid full price for it....
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Did you try the method 2 posts up?
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No. For the reason of having unlimited data.
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I gave up the unlimited data plan and went with the Share Everything with 6gb of data. I did an analysis of my data usage for the past year and found that I never used more than 2gb a month. The unlimited talk and text is more important to me than unlimited data. Although I use the web quite a bit on the phone, I use wifi at home and at work, so it limits my 4G data usage substantially.
Verizon will eventually find a way to eliminate unlimited data altogether, or with some of the new Internet legislation being pushed throttle the bandwidth to the point that it's useless.
I don't understand what people are doing to use 30gb a month or higher unless you are using the plan as your home ISP service connecting multiple devices, or streaming movies all day long.
mike163 said:
I gave up the unlimited data plan and went with the Share Everything with 6gb of data. I did an analysis of my data usage for the past year and found that I never used more than 2gb a month. The unlimited talk and text is more important to me than unlimited data. Although I use the web quite a bit on the phone, I use wifi at home and at work, so it limits my 4G data usage substantially.
Verizon will eventually find a way to eliminate unlimited data altogether, or with some of the new Internet legislation being pushed throttle the bandwidth to the point that it's useless.
I don't understand what people are doing to use 30gb a month or higher unless you are using the plan as your home ISP service connecting multiple devices, or streaming movies all day long.
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I have Verizon Home Fusion for home internet and I do not have wifi at work. Largest amount of data I can subscribe to per month is 30GB/month, for my home. I'm too far off the road for cable, DSL, and I didn't want Satellite (which still has limits).
I'm grandfathered into unlimited. I use about 30 GB a month tethering, mostly updates for the XBOX One, downloading stuff from the usenet, streaming Netflix or HBO Go to my iPad when I'm at my camper, which is in the woods.
I hope you have an understanding now of how someone can use 30 GB per month.
On an average month, prior to acquiring my GS5, I was using about 45gb of data. That's web surfing, PC and Xbox 360 gaming, and streaming videos. On HEAVY months, I was up around 75gb of data used. My lightest month to date of data usage was 29gb of data. No way in heck I am giving up my unlimited when I have no home landline internet.. This IS my salvation.
Well in response to the OP and to others who may be confused, WIFI tether (as well as bluetooth and usb) is built in and available as long as you have the share everything plan. Until we get root there will be no native wifi hack. I've been told a talented dev has an s5 in hand, i bet it wont be too long until root is achieved, after which native hacks will be forthcoming
It takes time, has anyone here had the s4 before the s5? Do you recommend me to get the s4 or s5? I'm looking to upgrade but I have to pay full price for the phone because I use about 100 gb every month, the only two things that make me doubt is that wifi tether is not posible yet and since I eat my fingernails I can't open the usb with my fingers on the S5 lmao
razzrmaxx said:
It takes time, has anyone here had the s4 before the s5? Do you recommend me to get the s4 or s5? I'm looking to upgrade but I have to pay full price for the phone because I use about 100 gb every month, the only two things that make me doubt is that wifi tether is not posible yet and since I eat my fingernails I can't open the usb with my fingers on the S5 lmao
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On that note, (heh) if you wanted to, and I wanted to, but was talked out of by a dumb BBY mobile rep, was getting the Note 3 which is rootable.
tpike said:
Well in response to the OP and to others who may be confused, WIFI tether (as well as bluetooth and usb) is built in and available as long as you have the share everything plan. Until we get root there will be no native wifi hack. I've been told a talented dev has an s5 in hand, i bet it wont be too long until root is achieved, after which native hacks will be forthcoming
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Thanks for your reply but I need to activate on the unlimited plan and although when I'm home I don't use that much but when traveling it sure is much cheaper than paying 7-20 bucks a day for WiFi access in some places.... not having root is no good in this particular case especially because I rely on it for work and has never been an issue until now. And giving more money to Verizon is not an options unlimited is already 125 per month
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On that note, (heh) if you wanted to, and I wanted to, but was talked out of by a dumb BBY mobile rep, was getting the Note 3 which is rootable.
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I'm currently still using my n3 cause it's rooted and running my rom. It's got Wi-Fi tether hacked as do most roms.
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Suggestion
To kprice8
What I would do if I were you. Put your 4G SIM card back in your old device until root becomes available. That way you have the Wifi Tether and can use your Unlimited data. And at the same time you can use your S5 for all your apps and such. But use the old device for calling and texting. Just my suggestion. You are lucky, I would never give up that unlimited plan. And these devs are extremely clever you'll have Wifi Tethering on your S5 in no time.
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To kprice8
What I would do if I were you. Put your 4G SIM card back in your old device until root becomes available. That way you have the Wifi Tether and can use your Unlimited data. And at the same time you can use your S5 for all your apps and such. But use the old device for calling and texting. Just my suggestion. You are lucky, I would never give up that unlimited plan. And these devs are extremely clever you'll have Wifi Tethering on your S5 in no time.
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Not an option. Took BestBuy up on their trade in offer. Didn't consider this at the time. But for the future, now I will know better...

tether without root

Hi all
I have the old unlimited plan that does not allow tethering. I have been trying to find a solution that would work without root. So far nothing has worked for me. Not even foxfi that people day works with Verizon has worked. Has anyone figured out a way to do this? Other than this one thing missing, I love the phone and find no reason to want to root it even at this point. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
M9x3mos said:
Hi all
I have the old unlimited plan that does not allow tethering. I have been trying to find a solution that would work without root. So far nothing has worked for me. Not even foxfi that people day works with Verizon has worked. Has anyone figured out a way to do this? Other than this one thing missing, I love the phone and find no reason to want to root it even at this point. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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have you try PDAnet
Haven't tried that yet. Was hoping for a wireless solution but that can work in some instances too. Usually use it for my tablet more than a computer but worth a shot.
M9x3mos said:
Haven't tried that yet. Was hoping for a wireless solution but that can work in some instances too. Usually use it for my tablet more than a computer but worth a shot.
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I am waiting on my S7e but I put it on my tablet TAB A and it has a wireless hotspot, so yeah you can do it wirelessly. I should receive the S7e monday. I had it but had to return as i was on a lease and I wanted to get the BOGO promo. and now it was backorder.
Unfortunately that doesn't seem to run any differently. Enables but the connected device still goes to the up sell page.
M9x3mos said:
Hi all
I have the old unlimited plan that does not allow tethering. I have been trying to find a solution that would work without root. So far nothing has worked for me. Not even foxfi that people day works with Verizon has worked. Has anyone figured out a way to do this? Other than this one thing missing, I love the phone and find no reason to want to root it even at this point. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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you should pay for it.... and stop giving the rest of us a bad name by stealing data....
Just my opinion
That's the thing. I can't pay for it. They won't give me the option to even if I wanted to. I have the unlimited data plan but for my rate plan they never added the option to tether to mine and won't. I'm still paying for unlimited data though.
Switch plans new unlimited plans comes with 14gb free tethering other than that your SOL
I would if they would let me keep my @home phone line on the new plan but they won't. I need that more than I need tethering. Only use it for work email and reading on my tablet on occasion the computer.
Depends on what you're tethering. I had the S7 for a week and a half and used pdanet (returned it due to lack of root) to tether to my laptop. On my laptop browser I used opera browser with a user agent switcher (Safari for windows) and it worked fine, no upsell, mobile hot spot data not affected. When tethering with Pdanet to a phone however my hot spot data got dinged.
Tethering to a phone or Tab You'll most likely need root and WiFi Tether Router.
Hope that helps. Don't forget to create a new APN with ipv4 in both fields.
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That's the thing. I can't pay for it. They won't give me the option to even if I wanted to. I have the unlimited data plan but for my rate plan they never added the option to tether to mine and won't. I'm still paying for unlimited data though.
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You're paying for unlimited data on your smartphone as defined in the ToS.
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge
PDXMatt said:
You're paying for unlimited data on your smartphone as defined in the ToS.
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge
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The terms of service don't really specify that anywhere that I saw the last time I read it. But because tmobile does not offer the services I need on a plan I am forced to find work arounds. If they would let me keep my at home line and go to a Tethering plan I wouldn't have this problem.
M9x3mos said:
The terms of service don't really specify that anywhere that I saw the last time I read it. But because tmobile does not offer the services I need on a plan I am forced to find work arounds. If they would let me keep my at home line and go to a Tethering plan I wouldn't have this problem.
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You stated that you're on an old data plan that doesn't allow tethering, right? So, the terms you agreed to doesn't allow tethering, correct? We're you made aware of the fact that tethering wasn't included? If so, you know very well that the unlimited data portion of your plan is only for unlimited data on your smartphone.
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge
The plan I have does not say anything on the literature if I could or not anywhere. I could tether without root on my s3 and on my blackberry. Only on newer devices I can't and anytime I talk with tmobile they only say that my plan isn't compatible with my device and I need to get a new plan. The new plan doesn't support at home landlines.
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The plan I have does not say anything on the literature if I could or not anywhere. I could tether without root on my s3 and on my blackberry. Only on newer devices I can't and anytime I talk with tmobile they only say that my plan isn't compatible with my device and I need to get a new plan. The new plan doesn't support at home landlines.
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Well get separate plan with tethering or pay for Internet
I would need to buy a Tethering device just for that only if I wanted a separate plan. I only have one cell phone and the at home line on my current plan. If I move my cell to another plan they say I need to cancel the at home line. And I don't want to purchase another device and a new line of service at over 40 a month just for the few times and little amount I use it just because their system won't let me keep my at home line to get a plan that is supposedly compatible with my phone to tether.

bypass tethering on the unlimited plan

hey everyone!
so i have the s7 edge on the att unlimited plan.
I have been using Foxfi (i did but the full version) which bypasses the usb tethering, not the hotspot tethering.
so i bypass the usb tethering to my laptop, and on the full version you can do wifi sharing. Which then i can hotspot to anything, tv, xbox, ect. so for people who are trying to look for a way to bypass that, there you go.
but my issue is when is go to do wifi sharing it now says re-enable microsoft wifi virtual mini adapter...
I have searched the internet for a few days trying anything i can do re-enable that, but nothing is working!
using toshiba on windows 10.
any ideas or help would be greatly appreciated
I have the s7 edge on Att unlimited plan also. Do you have to be rooted to use Foxfi?
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To be honest I think even if we bypass the tethering restriction AT&T will begin to take notice. I had a palm pre years ago and that is what happened to me
dahaterhurter said:
I have the s7 edge on Att unlimited plan also. Do you have to be rooted to use Foxfi?
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XxCyberHackerxX said:
To be honest I think even if we bypass the tethering restriction AT&T will begin to take notice. I had a palm pre years ago and that is what happened to me
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we will see! i know t-mobile was threatening to do that with some of there customers, but never heard if them actually following through.
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we will see! i know t-mobile was threatening to do that with some of there customers, but never heard if them actually following through.
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When it happened to me AT&T sent me a statement saying if I continued to do it they would automatically upgrade me to a tethering plan.
Rooted w/ Xposed and using XTouchWiz confirmed working with new unlimited plans.

Before I buy...

So I'm thinking of getting the Verizon HTC 10. Can anyone confirm if SunShine can s-off the current firmware verzion that the HTC 10 is shipped with? Perhaps if they have time to comment, maybe @jcase or @beaups could chime in? Thanks!
pastorbennett said:
So I'm thinking of getting the Verizon HTC 10. Can anyone confirm if SunShine can s-off the current firmware verzion that the HTC 10 is shipped with? Perhaps if they have time to comment, maybe @jcase or @beaups could chime in? Thanks!
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All currently shipping versions of the Verizon 10 are compatible with sunshine.
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All currently shipping versions of the Verizon 10 are compatible with sunshine.
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Thanks! That's all I needed to hear. With being on a grandfathered unlimited data plan and living in an area where the only other option for a high speed ISP is satellite service, I need to be rooted to use wifi tethering for my primary ISP.
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Thanks! That's all I needed to hear. With being on a grandfathered unlimited data plan and living in an area where the only other option for a high speed ISP is satellite service, I need to be rooted to use wifi tethering for my primary ISP.
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FWIW, some phones no longer check your plan before allowing tether. I'm not certain if this applies to the 10, but my mom just got a Moto G4 Plus and while I was setting it up I decided to check just for fun and it allowed her to do hotspot and the like. Also on unlimited data from Verizon btw.
Native Tethering
pastorbennett said:
Thanks! That's all I needed to hear. With being on a grandfathered unlimited data plan and living in an area where the only other option for a high speed ISP is satellite service, I need to be rooted to use wifi tethering for my primary ISP.
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Many of the rooted ROMs have tethering already activated. If you self-root stock and stay that way, there's a text edit you need to make to get tethering to work perfectly without a third-party app.
See the link here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-10/help/vzw-hotspot-setupunlocked-htc10-version-t3380588
I used to use third-part app WiFi Tether, but the native tether is much faster to load and unload.
FYI, I'm using the unlocked 10 converted to Verizon via the XDA guide and am loving it. I have all the Verizon features and no issues whatsoever ... and didn't have to send off my phone to get it s-off or rooted.
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Many of the rooted ROMs have tethering already activated. If you self-root stock and stay that way, there's a text edit you need to make to get tethering to work perfectly without a third-party app.
See the link here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-10/help/vzw-hotspot-setupunlocked-htc10-version-t3380588
I used to use third-part app WiFi Tether, but the native tether is much faster to load and unload.
FYI, I'm using the unlocked 10 converted to Verizon via the XDA guide and am loving it. I have all the Verizon features and no issues whatsoever ... and didn't have to send off my phone to get it s-off or rooted.
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Thanks for that. I had looked at a thread that was a little less detailed, and only mentioned editing one line in default.xml. I'll probably put together a flashable zip like I did for my Moto Droid Turbo.

New Verizon Unlimited, tethering question

People who have the grandfathered unlimited data plan and have an unlocked Nexus 6p can bypass Verizon's tethering restriction (ie tether without paying extra).
My question is for anyone who has an unlocked phone like the 6p and has the new Verizon Unlimited plan: can Verizon detect the 10GB of tethering then throw you to 3G? Or is it not detectable because there's no Verizon software on your phone?
In other words: is the 10GB tether limit detected locally on your phone or on Verizon's end?
I was actually wondering this exact same thing, if anyone happens to know.
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I just switched from grandfathered to the new unlimited. They cannot detect tethering at all as they do not have their software on the phone.
Enjoy
How are you bypassing the hotspot detection? Are you using a simple Entitlement bypass the using the standard hotspot that is part of Android, or something different?
Are you sure Verizon is not detecting it? Because there are ways--other than using Verizon apps for the hotspot--for Verizon to detect that your phone is being used as a hotspot.
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How are you bypassing the hotspot detection? Are you using a simple Entitlement bypass the using the standard hotspot that is part of Android, or something different?
Are you sure Verizon is not detecting it? Because there are ways--other than using Verizon apps for the hotspot--for Verizon to detect that your phone is being used as a hotspot.
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By simply turning on the tethering option in settings.
And you're sure this prevents Verizon from seeing it?
I almost created a new thread asking this question, but then I saw my questions was already asked.
Can we confirm that the new 10gb tethering cap is undetectable on VZW Unlimited plan?
wow i was thinking about switching from tmobile unlimited cuz they be detecting me to bypass i use pdanet with cable to hide tether and it works 100%. But I wanted to make the switch to verizon unlimited it's just that I'm paying 50$ a month for unlimited tmobile
I was also just browsing the Pixel Q&A and it seems some of them are having trouble getting tethering on VZW with the Pixel. I'm on a "grandfathered" unlimited VZW plan and tethering works no problem for me, no hack or tricks need, just use the built in hotspot.
I wonder if some of the Pixel users having problems got their phones from Verizon, thinking maybe the phones that came direct from Google don't have the VZW software that tracks tethering.
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I was also just browsing the Pixel Q&A and it seems some of them are having trouble getting tethering on VZW with the Pixel. I'm on a "grandfathered" unlimited VZW plan and tethering works no problem for me, no hack or tricks need, just use the built in hotspot.
I wonder if some of the Pixel users having problems got their phones from Verizon, thinking maybe the phones that came direct from Google don't have the VZW software that tracks tethering.
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It's probably phones from Verizon.
I tether with my 6P on 7.1.2 and have since I got it new with 6.x.
Verizon doesn't do what AT&T and other to do to detect tethering.
I have tethered all my phones for years without Verizon noticing..
Seems like they can detect it now. As of two days ago I received a text alert from verizon saying I've been throttled to 60/kbps for going over 15GB this month. I can confirm it has indeed been throttled, even while using a vpn in any configuration. (I've been on the "new" unlimited plan since it was re-introduced and never had an issue with tethering until now)
I can tell you Verizon can and does detect tethering no matter the phone or plan.... But can't really stop it on the grandfathered unlimited plans. It's usually small fish to fry for them at this point. With their stance on 100gb a month or they cancel you has pretty much eliminated the big abusers (I pass No judgment as I just last week finally ditched my grandfathered udp). In the pixel they provided block after block if you were not an early purchaser and used depixel8 to unlock the bootloader from firewaterdevs. @ Jan 17 a Google update finally put a stop to depixel8 (it was after all a bootloader security flaw) and if you purchased a pixel from VZW that had been updated to 7.1.1 you were SOL. There have been some tricks to pop the sim card in and out to enable tethering but many were difficult and the timing had to be precise. I am/was a pixel owner..... Back to my N6p. Daughter got my wife's S7, she took my pixel since the 6p is too big for her liking.
While the pixel requires a bootloader unlock to root and enable tethering or install a custom ROM done for you already.... The 6p is VERY different from the pixel as far as it never being a Verizon issued phone as well as not having the split A/B partition (you'll all find out about that on your next upgrade) VZW is well aware of your tethering usage. Just a matter of making an issue out of it....which unless you are using it as your home wifi.......there are fewer and fewer grandfathered plans left to bother with.
I tethered while traveling with the kids and the largest data amount I ever tethered was 25gb. Usually more in the 10-12 range. I finally gave up the UDP because to add a phone for my kid (middle school now) it would have cost 30 more for data and I would have only gotten 2gb for her. With 3 lines on new "unlimited" I pay $15 less than I was paying. I'm not upgrading to the higher unlimited plan until I need to travel again. Right now I've seen zero difference in my service but I'm definitely keeping an eye on it. Honestly on a 5inch screen it's not a big deal to have dvd quality vs HD. Once my wife's contract ends in March from the S7 subsidized purchase 18 months ago we'll upgrade to the higher UDP with the 15gb tethering cap.
My only question is that 15gb per line tethering or per plan?
imitebewrong said:
Seems like they can detect it now. As of two days ago I received a text alert from verizon saying I've been throttled to 60/kbps for going over 15GB this month. I can confirm it has indeed been throttled, even while using a vpn in any configuration. (I've been on the "new" unlimited plan since it was re-introduced and never had an issue with tethering until now)
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I also received the text alert and email. throttling appears to be set at 600kbs as per the email. using pdanet to limp along till theres a better solution.
threestripebrand said:
I also received the text alert and email. throttling appears to be set at 600kbs as per the email. using pdanet to limp along till theres a better solution.
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Me as well (using pdanet), I have satellite internet as I am outside of City limits. Frustrating Verizon is regressing rather than progressing. Mainly due to greed.
imitebewrong said:
Seems like they can detect it now. As of two days ago I received a text alert from verizon saying I've been throttled to 60/kbps for going over 15GB this month. I can confirm it has indeed been throttled, even while using a vpn in any configuration. (I've been on the "new" unlimited plan since it was re-introduced and never had an issue with tethering until now)
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I ditched my GUDP last month based on the info from this thread. I used over 30GB of tethering last month, and Verizon shows I used 0GB for tethering. I was excited until this month, as I just got a text that I hit 15GB of tethering and I'm throttled at 600kbs now. Something else I noticed is that when I log into my Verizon account, it shows I'm currently using a Huawei - H1511. If I remember correctly, Verizon couldn't recognize it was a Huawei phone on my account up until now.
Can anyone confirm if using PDA Net or ClockworkMod Tether works around this limitation? The free trials are too limited to fully test them out, and I don't want to purchase the paid version of the apps if I'll be stuck with the same tethering limitations of the stock hotspot.
Thanks!
Pda-Net works Via USB to PC, as for CWM I don't know.
imitebewrong said:
Seems like they can detect it now. As of two days ago I received a text alert from verizon saying I've been throttled to 60/kbps for going over 15GB this month. I can confirm it has indeed been throttled, even while using a vpn in any configuration. (I've been on the "new" unlimited plan since it was re-introduced and never had an issue with tethering until now)
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Ditto on this. I'm now really regretting having moved away from the grandfather plan.
Thank you all for posting, you’ve convinced me to keep gUDP. I am tethering in excess of 1TB per billing cycle. On contract of course. Now to extend the contract...
Found a fix!
I feel silly for not having found this sooner.
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/enable-free-wifi-tethering-android-marshmallow-0167832/
tldr;
add
Code:
net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
to your /system/build.prop file and reboot
Just tested with my new unlimited plan and can confirm I'm now back above the 600kbps mark!!
Lineage OS 14.1 on Axon 7
Edit: Nevermind. I'm not sure what I did the other day but I can't recreate this.
So I hit my 15gb hotspot tether limit on the new verizon " unlimited" plan , I then was limited to ~600kbps as described in the fine print , I however can confirm that if I connect pc via usb or wifi hotspot and place pc or other tethered device on a vpn such as Private internet access I am able to then able to get normal speed ~15mbs I also streamed youtube in 1440p for testing for ~10mins . I will test tonight with my 4k tv watching netflix and see if I can continue past the 22gb limit and still get UHD streaming . FYI im on ipad and iphone , host device does not seem to matter the trick is the device connected to the hotspot must be on a vpn that does not use split tunneling .

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