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Why can't Samsung make one chipset that supports for all countries. I don't have a great knowledge in chip designing. But i am always curious to know why different chipsets are needed for LTE. Why Exynos is not compatible with LTE (USA LTE). How is the scenario with iphone, iphone 5 is in India too. Does it have a different chipset from USA's ?
Processer problem? or not
varunkumars said:
Why can't Samsung make one chipset that supports for all countries. I don't have a great knowledge in chip designing. But i am always curious to know why different chipsets are needed for LTE. Why Exynos is not compatible with LTE (USA LTE). How is the scenario with iphone, iphone 5 is in India too. Does it have a different chipset from USA's ?
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Well.. I don't think that problem is into Main chipset.
The galaxy s3's Exynos 4412 processer supports LTE. but samsung released by 3G version. I don't know why is itand also, samsung released korean galaxy s4 version by LTE with Exynos again
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(Korean Version of Galaxy S3 gets Exynos4412 LTE/2GB RAM/and also LTE Conn.)
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Also with Note2 , Samsung launched with One Exynos processer chipset worldwide, same phone, just different modem and radio files.
I thought Samsung did sortout LTE band issue.
But but, Samsung dissapointed me with snapdragon qualcomm chipset in Canada again.
varunkumars said:
Why can't Samsung make one chipset that supports for all countries. I don't have a great knowledge in chip designing. But i am always curious to know why different chipsets are needed for LTE. Why Exynos is not compatible with LTE (USA LTE). How is the scenario with iphone, iphone 5 is in India too. Does it have a different chipset from USA's ?
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I think it s about the Trust from Americans
i m not american but i trust on Snapdragon (from USA) more than Exynos (& Cortex from Korea and UK ...) !!!
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maybe Samsung try to behave WISER in US
step by step and better performance
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Samsung will do the same sh*t with the S4 as they did with the S3.
3 months after releasing the S3 i9300 in Australia they released the S3 4g i9305. Helps boost sales to suckers like me.
This time they'll probably release the i9505 lte snapdragon version then a few months down the track claim they found a way to get 4g working on the Octa and probably release a i9510.
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Was this exynos lte variant released on all the major carriers? More in particular was it released for at&t?
exynos for note 2, im guessing they were able to fit in a LTE chip due to the size of the phone 5.5
since the s4 keeps the s3 form factor, plus almost 1mm thinner, there was no way they couldve included lte with the exynos.
Plus they are having manufacturing issues with the exynos, so by fall when the note 3 launches, it shouldnt be a issue.
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Was this exynos lte variant released on all the major carriers? More in particular was it released for at&t?
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Not sure but I believe in the US they stayed the same dual core models. In some overseas markets where the international model was sold they then introduced the quad core lte model (i9305).
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You guys should search before posting. There is already a thread discussing this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2200796
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Refer to the existing thread cited above.
Why is Samsung phasing out their Exynos 5 chip and implementing snapdragons in their upcoming phones? Its a shame that they are using their competition in their own devices rather than try to improve their own and then market it.
I love my i9500 but the lack or dev support is really depressing.
I honestly don't want to see the downfall of the Exynos 5.
starscream0 said:
Why is Samsung phasing out their Exynos 5 chip and implementing snapdragons in their upcoming phones? Its a shame that they are using their competition in their own devices rather than try to improve their own and then market it.
I love my i9500 but the lack or dev support is really depressing.
I honestly don't want to see the downfall of the Exynos 5.
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I agree that its disappointing that the Exynos 5 chip hasn't been as good as they projected, and publicised.
But I do think that its a good move to use the snapdragon 800 in their i95005G device (google edition)
Samsung are giving customers the best they can for the S4. Using the Exynos 5 would be a mistake, as its reign as the best chip will be short lived. (slightly better than the snapdragon 600)
The 800 will be a lot better, and for a flagship device they need the best. Not to mention LTE for many countries is a tech selling point.
I think you guys are being premature. Exynos vs. Qualcomm is more about baseband than it is anything else. Last year before LTE grew in deployment the ratio was 2/3 Exynos 1/3 Snapdragon. This year it's reversed. And the only device that's "rumored" to use S-800 is the LTE Advanced SGS4 that's only being sold in Korea.
Qualcomm announced a new LTE baseband called RF360 in February that's supposed to be available in the fall. It allows a single baseband to be used across all 40 different LTE bands. Once it's deployed Samsung could use Exynos wherever they chose. If RF360's available in time for the N3's release I'd fully expect it to be Exynos.
http://www.qualcomm.com/media/relea...olution-enables-single-global-lte-design-next
Samsung Semiconductor is a very healthy business line within Samsung Corporation and generated $7.4 USD in sales in Q1 of this year.
Profit at Samsung’s semiconductor division in the first quarter was put at 1.07 trillion won, compared with 700 billion won last year, on sales of 8.58 trillion won.http://x.dawn.com/2013/04/26/samsung-posts-record-q1-profit-of-6-4-billion/
http://www.qualcomm.com/media/relea...olution-enables-single-global-lte-design-next
The above link provides more info on the Qualcom RF360 Front End Solution
They aren't introducing a new baseband... just making a complete solution that works with all the various global network setups.
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BarryH_GEG said:
I think you guys are being premature. Exynos vs. Qualcomm is more about baseband than it is anything else. Last year before LTE grew in deployment the ratio was 2/3 Exynos 1/3 Snapdragon. This year it's reversed. And the only device that's "rumored" to use S-800 is the LTE Advanced SGS4 that's only being sold in Korea.
Qualcomm announced a new LTE baseband called RF360 in February that's supposed to be available in the fall. It allows a single baseband to be used across all 40 different LTE bands. Once it's deployed Samsung could use Exynos wherever they chose. If RF360's available in time for the N3's release I'd fully expect it to be Exynos.
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Thanks for the link, thats really good news.
Hopefully they do use the Exynos 5 and continue to give it 100% support in the future.
What i was mostly scared about was that the i9500 users like myself are left in the dark due to not enough dev support, and it seems like all the devs are slowly backing away from the i9500.
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Thanks for the link, thats really good news.
Hopefully they do use the Exynos 5 and continue to give it 100% support in the future.
What i was mostly scared about was that the i9500 users like myself are left in the dark due to not enough dev support, and it seems like all the devs are slowly backing away from the i9500.
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Its not about developers supporting Samsung's SOC, its about samsung supporting the developers at XDA... they almost never release what they say they are going to.
hamdogg said:
Its not about developers supporting Samsung's SOC, its about samsung supporting the developers at XDA... they almost never release what they say they are going to.
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Why should Samsung support us at XDA with its Exynos SoC ?
What is in it for Samsung to support us with the Exynos SoC ... ?
Where do we give Samsung a competitive edge over other mobile makers ?
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Gillion said:
Why should Samsung support us at XDA with its Exynos SoC ?
What is in it for Samsung to support us with the Exynos SoC ... ?
Where do we give Samsung a competitive edge over other mobile makers ?
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Samsung go on record stating they will release code for this and that... and almost never do.
Plus we buy the device. People are switching to other devices because of ROM availability and developers supporting other phone manufacturers.
Its in their interest to sell as many phones as possibile. So they are losing market share buy not following through with their promisses.
Thinking about their prospective... Apparently not enough to make a difference
Gillion said:
Why should Samsung support us at XDA with its Exynos SoC ?
What is in it for Samsung to support us with the Exynos SoC ... ?
Where do we give Samsung a competitive edge over other mobile makers ?
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Word of mouth, tech savvy support, recommendations.
Although all of that can be negligible compared to the marketing monster at Samsung.
Gillion said:
Why should Samsung support us at XDA with its Exynos SoC ?
What is in it for Samsung to support us with the Exynos SoC ... ?
Where do we give Samsung a competitive edge over other mobile makers ?
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Excellent question.
Us...
Them...
Gillion said:
Why should Samsung support us at XDA with its Exynos SoC ?
What is in it for Samsung to support us with the Exynos SoC ... ?
Where do we give Samsung a competitive edge over other mobile makers ?
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tech savvy people are the ones who "are not so tech savvy" ask for recommendations for phones
it may not affect samsung sales a lot but still has some sort of impact
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hamdogg said:
... But I do think that its a good move to use the snapdragon 800 in their i95005G device (google edition) ...
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What ? where did you get that ? or is just your wish.
rsndetre said:
What ? where did you get that ? or is just your wish.
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No need to try and be condescending... Its all over the forum... even in news articles like this one:
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hamdogg said:
I agree that its disappointing that the Exynos 5 chip hasn't been as good as they projected, and publicised.
But I do think that its a good move to use the snapdragon 800 in their i95005G device (google edition)
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Don't you mean I9505G that is being released next week? And if so they are using the same chip as the I9505, namely the Snapdragon 600, not 800. For all intents and purposes they're the same device.
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Pagnell said:
Don't you mean I9505G that is being released next week? And if so they are using the same chip as the I9505, namely the Snapdragon 600, not 800. For all intents and purposes they're the same device.
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Yeah agreed... got my device number confused.. SnapD 600 in the G addition...
The snapdragon 800 is appearing in the GS4 in Korea first then the US market. (as stated by engadget, pocketnow)
Wonder if there will be a mass exodus of snapdragon 600 S4's on ebay just before release
They will never going to use Exynos on Note 3?
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No need to try and be condescending... Its all over the forum... even in news articles like this one:
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So the leak of a South Korea user manual doesn't quite apply to the Western world, but it does imply the likelihood of the same powerhouse Snapdragon 800 processor inside the rumored Galaxy Note III. Also, the user manual doesn't specifically state that the device is a Galaxy S4, however the specs and dimensions match those of the device, making it probable that a variant running Qualcomm's Snapdragon 800 is imminent.
It is unclear if we will see a Galaxy S4 with the latest Snapdragon 800, but it is an exciting possibility. Check back in later for Samsung's Premiere 2013 Galaxy and ATIV event news, which kicks off at 2pm ET.
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So it's not a sure thing...
hamdogg said:
Yeah agreed... got my device number confused.. SnapD 600 in the G addition...
The snapdragon 800 is appearing in the GS4 in Korea first then the US market. (as stated by engadget, pocketnow)
Wonder if there will be a mass exodus of snapdragon 600 S4's on ebay just before release
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Unlikely given that there is nothing out there at the moment that can make a Galaxy S3 break sweat, never mind an S4. Someone would have to be a bit stupid to be that bothered about extra performance which won't even be noticed in the real world.
This S4 is more than sufficient for my needs until my contact is up in 2 years time.
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IMO, Why Google need snapdragon for there Google S4.?
Simple, Google don't want to be Apple - COZ, Samsung was the chip maker of Apple till yet but after there fight of patents, Apple simply drop there idea for CHIPS.
Samsung is preparing Exynox 4 (not OCTA ONE Exynox 5) chipset for there Tizen devices. They have successfully tested it on i9500 model.
Dont be feared guys. New Note 3 will be powered by Exynox 5 chipset. Samsung will support their Exynox chipset very well.:good:
Disturbed™ said:
IMO, Why Google need snapdragon for there Google S4.?
Simple, Google don't want to be Apple - COZ, Samsung was the chip maker of Apple till yet but after there fight of patents, Apple simply drop there idea for CHIPS.
Samsung is preparing Exynox 4 (not OCTA ONE Exynox 5) chipset for there Tizen devices. They have successfully tested it on i9500 model.
Dont be feared guys. New Note 3 will be powered by Exynox 5 chipset. Samsung will support their Exynox chipset very well.:good:
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Yes, samsung Dont gain anything for using snapdragom soc, New gs4 will be a sd800 only because of LteA
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it is my understanding that the US has the snapdragon Note 3. However, my model number is SM-N900A. I got it from Walmart here in Hawaii. I hear this is the Exynos variant. I want the snapdragon, should I take it back and hope to get the correct one?
The 900A is US at&t, it's snapdragon. There is no Exnyos one sold here in the US at normal retail outlets.
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it is my understanding that the US has the snapdragon Note 3. However, my model number is SM-N900A. I got it from Walmart here in Hawaii. I hear this is the Exynos variant. I want the snapdragon, should I take it back and hope to get the correct one?
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Look here http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=4937&c=samsung_sm-n900a_galaxy_note_3_lte_32gb, if you would have used Google you would have found this too It allready has the Qualcomm Snapdragon chip appearently. Install CPU-Z from Play for hardware info.
gee2012 said:
if you would have used Google you would have found this too It allready has the Qualcomm Snapdragon chip appearently. Install CPU-Z from Play for hardware info.
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I did google it. I came up with this "First off, let’s talk about the two different models that the Note III is going to be shipping in, the SM-900 and the SM-9005. The SM-900 is going to feature 3GB RAM and the Samsung Exynos 5420, which is of course, Octa-Core. Meanwhile, the SM-9005 is packing the same 3GB of RAM but a Quad-Core Snapdragon 800 instead of the Exynos. "
But thanks for the CPU Z, it does infact say snapdragon.
Exynos 3g network and Snapdragon for 4g LTE network, Exynos mostly available in SE Asia where 4g not yet popular.
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SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE 3.....Samsung publicize snapdragon 800 with 300 mhz -2.3 ghz and go on to sell exynos with 250 mhz -1.9 ghz i.e with lesser clock speed in india.
and also out of the so called octa core exynos only 4 cores works integration of the other four cores will happen in the latter stage....
samsung is clearly misleading people in india
and also the 4 k video is not available for this variant of galaxy note 3
Europe and western countries get the best of the variant whereas we guys get the regular dump....
Samsung are you listening........
Samsung and Qualcomm clock speeds are not directly comparable.
Although different, I'd say the difference in performance is negligible.
I believe the version that is sold in a particular country depends on regional marketing decision, notably the purchasing power and LTE coverage in respective country.
For example, here in SEA, Singapore and Malaysia get the Snapdragon LTE version (most expensive), while Indonesia gets Exynos non-LTE version (least expensive).
On the bright side, you get the most affordable version of Note 3.
paulodonfather said:
SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE 3.....Samsung publicize snapdragon 800 with 300 mhz -2.3 ghz and go on to sell exynos with 250 mhz -1.9 ghz i.e with lesser clock speed in india.
and also out of the so called octa core exynos only 4 cores works integration of the other four cores will happen in the latter stage....
samsung is clearly misleading people in india
and also the 4 k video is not available for this variant of galaxy note 3
Europe and western countries get the best of the variant whereas we guys get the regular dump....
Samsung are you listening........
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yes....all the demo devices in india r snapdragon n3 and samsung r selling exynos n3 in india....................
kannanX10 said:
yes....all the demo devices in india r snapdragon n3 and samsung r selling exynos n3 in india....................
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and obviously the exynos's lesser download speed compared to snapdragon 800 .......
please Samsung give us the best of true octa core... the speed of A15 with power efficency of A7..
paulodonfather said:
and obviously the exynos's lesser download speed compared to snapdragon 800 .......
please Samsung give us the best of true octa core... the speed of A15 with power efficency of A7..
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SAMSUNG Speak uppppppppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11.........
This is actually the first time Europe actually doesn't get cheated this exact same way.
The S800 variant is the main version, except for countries that do not have LTE.
The S800 version was never announced for India. If you'd done a bit of reading, it'd have been obvious from well before the release. http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/15...agon-800-variant-sm-n9005-specs-confirmation/
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SAMSUNG Speak uppppppppppppppppp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11.........
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in greece is same problem. :crying:
ShadowLea said:
This is actually the first time Europe actually doesn't get cheated this exact same way.
The S800 variant is the main version, except for countries that do not have LTE.
The S800 version was never announced for India. If you'd done a bit of reading, it'd have been obvious from well before the release. http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/15...agon-800-variant-sm-n9005-specs-confirmation/
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Yes did my bit of reading EXYNOS OCTA CORE is the announcement but what we are essentially getting is EXYNOS QUAD CORE.. the A7 CORE Is yet to be integrated....A7 is where the power efficiency comes from.....
Samsung had released list of counties that would be getting Snapdragon and Exynos. Personally I would like the Exynos as it would be getting update that will enable it to run all the cores at the same time.
I think the exynos could save up more battery because of the octa core processor.
For me this is the most important part. But I've a snapdragon because they only sell this
willstay said:
Samsung had released list of counties that would be getting Snapdragon and Exynos. Personally I would like the Exynos as it would be getting update that will enable it to run all the cores at the same time.
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wrong! there will be no update which enables to run all 8 cores simultaneously, this won't fit in the thermal design envelope of the device!
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Fulvian said:
I believe the version that is sold in a particular country depends on regional marketing decision, notably the purchasing power and LTE coverage in respective country.
For example, here in SEA, Singapore and Malaysia get the Snapdragon LTE version (most expensive), while Indonesia gets Exynos non-LTE version (least expensive).
On the bright side, you get the most affordable version of Note 3.
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I think this has more to do with profit margin of Samsung. Exynos being cheaper to produce. And not the purchasing power of consumers. If you look at the market, places where Snapdragon is released, people buy in subsidy paying $200. And places where Exynos is released, people buy paying the full price around $700 or more.
Samsung misleading...
SO i guess Samsung should be selling it as Exynos Quad core rather than Exynos Octa core
I guess its high time loyal Samsung users see thru this and look for alternatives.....
Paying a bomb for slower variant..!!!!! its a rip offffffff !!!!!!!!!
TML1504 said:
wrong! there will be no update which enables to run all 8 cores simultaneously, this won't fit in the thermal design envelope of the device!
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wrong! the note will be able to run at more than 4 core at a time after getting a heterogeneous multi processing update from samsung!
mayank shekhar said:
wrong! the note will be able to run at more than 4 core at a time after getting a heterogeneous multi processing update from samsung!
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wrong! there will be no update which enables to run all 8 cores simultaneously, this won't fit in the thermal design envelope of the device!
So I'm really confused here. I'm planning on getting the Note 4 when it comes out and here in Europe, I get to choose between the Exynos model (64-bit) and the Snapdragon 805. So is 64-bit really THAT important for Android L? I don't really care about development support for the Snapdragon 805, I just want the more powerful device. Both versions will feature an LTE modem only the Snapdragon one is Cat6 and the Exynos one is Cat4. In my country LTE is just starting to roll out so that doesn't make any difference for me. Should I get the Exynos model because it's 64-bit?
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So I'm really confused here. I'm planning on getting the Note 4 when it comes out and here in Europe, I get to choose between the Exynos model (64-bit) and the Snapdragon 805. So is 64-bit really THAT important for Android L? I don't really care about development support for the Snapdragon 805, I just want the more powerful device. Both versions will feature an LTE modem only the Snapdragon one is Cat6 and the Exynos one is Cat4. In my country LTE is just starting to roll out so that doesn't make any difference for me. Should I get the Exynos model because it's 64-bit?
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Your answer is here: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/745330?baseline=745794
No need upgrade to Android L, Exynos is more powerful than Snapdragon!
I don't know how to interpret the results properly.
How about the poor memory performance of Exynos, what do the benchmarks indicate.
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I don't know how to interpret the results properly.
How about the poor memory performance of Exynos, what do the benchmarks indicate.
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don't get your hopes to high about 64 bit CPU. From the screenshots of the Exynos Note 4 CPU uses ARMv7 instruction set and for the 64 bit functionality ARMv8 is required. So looking at this and lack of any official work from Samsung I highly suspect that it will be 32 bit CPU with more cores. Also it doesn't make sense to release two so different CPU version since the Exynos version will be eligible for Android L update, but Snapdragon will not(or at least it was the rumor that Android L will work only on 64 bit CPU)
the screens from Exynos Note 4 show 32 bit CPU with 8 cores.... http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4912030/1/rv/samsung-galaxy-note-4-review/
I think I might be skipping on the Exynos and go with snapdragon since that what I can get locally in Canada, a big disappointment for me since I wanted to get 64 bit Exynos (for android L )
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Your answer is here: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/745330?baseline=745794
No need upgrade to Android L, Exynos is more powerful than Snapdragon!
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It looks like a substantial victory, sometimes >30% in some benchmarks for the Exynos. Does the Mali GPU similarly dominate over the new Adreno?
My big concern is the development of the Exynos vs the Snapdragon; concerned that there maybe CyanogenMod and AOSP based ROMs might have issues with the Exynos version (they had difficulties I remember with the Note 2)? Samsung I remember had really poor documentation for its Exynos SOCs, which could be an issue.
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don't get your hopes to high about 64 bit CPU. From the screenshots of the Exynos Note 4 CPU uses ARMv7 instruction set and for the 64 bit functionality ARMv8 is required. So looking at this and lack of any official work from Samsung I highly suspect that it will be 32 bit CPU with more cores. Also it doesn't make sense to release two so different CPU version since the Exynos version will be eligible for Android L update, but Snapdragon will not(or at least it was the rumor that Android L will work only on 64 bit CPU)
the screens from Exynos Note 4 show 32 bit CPU with 8 cores.... http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4912030/1/rv/samsung-galaxy-note-4-review/
I think I might be skipping on the Exynos and go with snapdragon since that what I can get locally in Canada, a big disappointment for me since I wanted to get 64 bit Exynos (for android L )
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What carrier are you on? Any idea if the Exynos version will work on Wind Mobile?
To be honest, this phone seems underwhelming in some ways. The Note 4 did not offer water proofing and it was not a huge upgrade over the Note 3 specs-wise. Plus the lack of ARMv8 instruction set SOCs ...
But the issue is there really isn't much competition in the Android phablet space these days. The One Plus One is unobtainable for most of us and well the others are not on par with the Note.
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It looks like a substantial victory, sometimes >30% in some benchmarks for the Exynos. Does the Mali GPU similarly dominate over the new Adreno?
My big concern is the development of the Exynos vs the Snapdragon; concerned that there maybe CyanogenMod and AOSP based ROMs might have issues with the Exynos version (they had difficulties I remember with the Note 2)? Samsung I remember had really poor documentation for its Exynos SOCs, which could be an issue.
What carrier are you on? Any idea if the Exynos version will work on Wind Mobile?
To be honest, this phone seems underwhelming in some ways. The Note 4 did not offer water proofing and it was not a huge upgrade over the Note 3 specs-wise. Plus the lack of ARMv8 instruction set SOCs ...
But the issue is there really isn't much competition in the Android phablet space these days. The One Plus One is unobtainable for most of us and well the others are not on par with the Note.
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I'm with Fido, probably will have to get unlock Note 4 once it will reach Canada. But assuming that Wind Mobile has Note 3 its highly likely Note 4 will come to the Wind Mobile as well, maybe with some delay though.
All the great things about better performance of Exynos vs Snapdragon is awesome of course, however will you really notice the difference in usage ? I have SGS3 international which I compared to the north america's dual core didn't see much difference in performance of everyday tasks. In addiction to that most of the places don't have LTE-A so snapdragon is pretty much has no gain in network speed and will perform the same as Exynos(at least in Canada where we have only LTE network)
So now the question really is whether its worth going through the pain of getting international Note 4 region locked, deal with it , pay extra $$$ for the Exynos which lacks 64 bit instruction set and in terms of everyday performance you won't notice the difference ?
What I really wonder about is the difference in battery life between those two versions ?
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It looks like a substantial victory, sometimes >30% in some benchmarks for the Exynos. Does the Mali GPU similarly dominate over the new Adreno?
My big concern is the development of the Exynos vs the Snapdragon; concerned that there maybe CyanogenMod and AOSP based ROMs might have issues with the Exynos version (they had difficulties I remember with the Note 2)? Samsung I remember had really poor documentation for its Exynos SOCs, which could be an issue.
What carrier are you on? Any idea if the Exynos version will work on Wind Mobile?
To be honest, this phone seems underwhelming in some ways. The Note 4 did not offer water proofing and it was not a huge upgrade over the Note 3 specs-wise. Plus the lack of ARMv8 instruction set SOCs ...
But the issue is there really isn't much competition in the Android phablet space these days. The One Plus One is unobtainable for most of us and well the others are not on par with the Note.
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Instruction set ARMv7 is in ARM Cortex A53 and ARM Cortex A57. I have been play with HTC Desire 510 64bit for a while in shop. Installed Antutu and it show ARMv7 in details.
ARMv7 is read from OS as Android 4.4 is 32bit.
IF Exynos 5433 is 64 bit, we will have more with Android L
vetl said:
So now the question really is whether its worth going through the pain of getting international Note 4 region locked, deal with it , pay extra $$$ for the Exynos which lacks 64 bit instruction set and in terms of everyday performance you won't notice the difference ?
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The Exynos doesn't lack 64-bit instruction. It has 64-bit instruction. Read more here http://www.gsmarena.com/exynos_5433powered_samsung_galaxy_note_4_benchmarked-news-9406.php
BoBBBBBBBO said:
The Exynos doesn't lack 64-bit instruction. It has 64-bit instruction. Read more here http://www.gsmarena.com/exynos_5433powered_samsung_galaxy_note_4_benchmarked-news-9406.php
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i got confused by OS readings, seems like I have made solid decision to go after exynos version. Now the hardest part is to wait for it to become available :/
vetl said:
i got confused by OS readings, seems like I have made solid decision to go after exynos version. Now the hardest part is to wait for it to become available :/
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Where would you find an international version in Toronto (Canada) without it being wildly expensive?
Thanks,
Mr Dasher said:
Where would you find an international version in Toronto (Canada) without it being wildly expensive?
Thanks,
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I don't know about Canada but here in Europe I get to choose between the both models if you're not buying it from a carrier. Last year for the Note 3, the Snapdragon one was just a little bit more expensive than the Exynos model.
Mr Dasher said:
Where would you find an international version in Toronto (Canada) without it being wildly expensive?
Thanks,
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last two galaxies that I owned I got from online store ... so depends what you call wildly expensive, but definitely it will cost you some extra $$$. Does any one know which region Exynos version will belong ? from the website that I got my international SGS3 they told me that most likely they will get Snapdragon edition .....
I'm interested in the Exynos version if it will be faster and have better battery life. I'm still confused by the network support, however. It seems like the Exynos version will only have LTE Cat 4 while the Snapdragon version will have LTE Cat 6. Are there actually any carriers in North America on Cat 6? I didn't think so. Will the Exynos and Snapdragon versions support the same LTE bands? More importantly, will there be an Exynos version that with UMTS pentaband support (including 1700 and 1900 bands?) I assume the SM-N910T (T-Mobile) will be Snapdragon.
2xbass said:
I'm interested in the Exynos version if it will be faster and have better battery life. I'm still confused by the network support, however. It seems like the Exynos version will only have LTE Cat 4 while the Snapdragon version will have LTE Cat 6. Are there actually any carriers in North America on Cat 6? I didn't think so. Will the Exynos and Snapdragon versions support the same LTE bands? More importantly, will there be an Exynos version that with UMTS pentaband support (including 1700 and 1900 bands?) I assume the SM-N910T (T-Mobile) will be Snapdragon.
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There are barely any states that supports Cat6. Most don't even support Cat4. Take a look at this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
If you look at the dates you can see that many countries are only now receiving Cat3.
Mr Dasher said:
Where would you find an international version in Toronto (Canada) without it being wildly expensive?
Thanks,
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I bought my unlocked International Note 2 from Expansys.ca and it was at least $100 cheaper than the carriers, including priority shipping.
I'm likely going to do the same with the Note 4.
EP2008 said:
I bought my unlocked International Note 2 from Expansys.ca and it was at least $100 cheaper than the carriers, including priority shipping.
I'm likely going to do the same with the Note 4.
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Thanks for the heads up. I pre-ordered a 32gig black version . The price is not listed but they give you the option to cancel the order if it's not what you want.
Mr Dasher said:
Thanks for the heads up. I pre-ordered a 32gig black version . The price is not listed but they give you the option to cancel the order if it's not what you want.
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Just pre-ordered from Expansys. Looking at my Note 2 order, I got it the day after they shipped with the express ship option (approx. $27). Hope this comes out soon! :victory::victory:
EP2008 said:
Just pre-ordered from Expansys. Looking at my Note 2 order, I got it the day after they shipped with the express ship option (approx. $27). Hope this comes out soon! :victory::victory:
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I paid for express shipping as well. The only issue is that they dont mention which model it is. I have emailed them to ask.
For your Note 2, though it was unlocked, was there any type of carrier branding on the case or in the OS?
Thanks for the info.
Mr Dasher said:
I paid for express shipping as well. The only issue is that they dont mention which model it is. I have emailed them to ask.
For your Note 2, though it was unlocked, was there any type of carrier branding on the case or in the OS?
Thanks for the info.
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Please let me know when you get an answer.
For my Note 2 there was no carrier branding, other than the Samsung logo on the top of the device and on the back. Worked like a champ on Virgin Mobile, but this model (N-7100) doesn't have LTE. It'll be nice to have it on the Note 4!
From experience from having exynos galaxy phones and the same phone with snapdragon I always found the snapdragon phones to be more reliable and have less delay but when I had the exynos S4 the camera sensor and audio chip was better (wolfson vs qualcomm). This was important for me but I will not get a exynos phone again as Qualcomm in my opinion are the leaders in Chipset. 801 being a let down though due to overheating!