Idol 3 4.7 now available - Onetouch Idol 3 General

http://www.alcatelonetouch.us/ALCATEL-ONETOUCH-4-7-inch-SMARTPHONE-Unlocked/dp/B0118EWIXS
Got this twitter spam today.

Yeah, keeping an eye on this as it's a more one-handed friendly size than the 5.5" model. The only concern for me is whether they'll update it to M (or 5.1.1 at the very least).

m only concern is that multi 2 points touch screen, it is not just a smaller screen of its bigger brother.

I'm looking forward to this release. Not really liking all the hype of the devices with 5+ inch screens.
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Only thing that sucks is the other specs are smaller too. Someone at work was looking for a smaller phone than 5.5 too.

I think it's overpriced for what you get, I'd rather go moto g 2015.

3dupunk said:
I think it's overpriced for what you get, I'd rather go moto g 2015.
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Moto G only has 1GB RAM/8GB storage for the US$180 model. This has 1.5GB RAM/16GB storage for the same price. Both use a Snapdragon 410.
You have to go up to the US$220 Moto G to get 2GB RAM/16GB storage.

thedosbox said:
Moto G only has 1GB RAM/8GB storage for the US$180 model. This has 1.5GB RAM/16GB storage for the same price. Both use a Snapdragon 410.
You have to go up to the US$220 Moto G to get 2GB RAM/16GB storage.
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For $40 more you get waterproofing, better build, gorilla glass 3, half a gb more of ram, probably better dev support and Motorola's android skin which is usually very good. Money well spent if you ask me. I wouldn't even consider the $180 moto g, 8gb just isn't enough imo but if I wanted a smaller phone than the 5.5 i3 I'd go moto g for the reasons I mentioned.

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For $40 more you get waterproofing, better build, gorilla glass 3, half a gb more of ram, probably better dev support and Motorola's android skin which is usually very good. Money well spent if you ask me. I wouldn't even consider the $180 moto g, 8gb just isn't enough imo but if I wanted a smaller phone than the 5.5 i3 I'd go moto g for the reasons I mentioned.
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Not sure why you think Moto has an android "skin", as it's pretty much stock with the addition of a couple of apps (I have an OG Moto X).
Having said that, some people are very price sensitive and @ US$180, the 4.7 Icon would be the better deal. Also, the 1GB/8GB Moto G is the only version sold in Canada - so it's not as if we have the option of getting the 2GB/16GB version.
US$220 is still a good deal for a new phone, but it's edging into OnePlus One territory on swappa.

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Not sure why you think Moto has an android "skin", as it's pretty much stock with the addition of a couple of apps (I have an OG Moto X).
Having said that, some people are very price sensitive and @ US$180, the 4.7 Icon would be the better deal. Also, the 1GB/8GB Moto G is the only version sold in Canada - so it's not as if we have the option of getting the 2GB/16GB version.
US$220 is still a good deal for a new phone, but it's edging into OnePlus One territory on swappa.
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Moto uses an android skin however light it may be, it's there. Moto is one of the better companies in this regard as most of their work is done in the background and the end user doesn't even realize it.
I can understand that some may not be able to spend more or just don't want to, that's a personal preference and that's why I said I would rather get the moto g 2015 if I wanted a smaller phone in the same price range rather than the 5.5 i3. As far as the moto g 2gb version not being available in canada, I didn't know that but I honestly wasn't thinking about those abroad when I wrote my comment.
The price for the I3 5.5 is in the opo price range new and I still chose the i3 and zf2 over it. Imho the moto g and the 4.7 i3 appeal more so to people who are looking for smaller phones so that knocks the opo out of contention. Also, at least here in the states I would add the LG g2 to the list, which can be had for $150 and has better specs.

Just returned my Moto G 2/16 gb since I bought the Idol 3 4.7. Had it since the 11th. The Moto G has no NFC or Gyroscope. Cameras are comparable. After taxes the Idol 3 is $50 cheaper. It comes with headphones. Better Speakers, display, cheaper, and without the missing features.

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Just returned my Moto G 2/16 gb since I bought the Idol 3 4.7. Had it since the 11th. The Moto G has no NFC or Gyroscope. Cameras are comparable. After taxes the Idol 3 is $50 cheaper. It comes with headphones. Better Speakers, display, cheaper, and without the missing features.
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I'm thinking of doing the same with my 1/8gb. My main concern is battery life and I see the 4.7 has smaller battery?

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I'm thinking of doing the same with my 1/8gb. My main concern is battery life and I see the 4.7 has smaller battery?
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I wouldn't worry about battery life. 4-6 screen on easily and it charges faster than the G especially using quick charger, though it doesn't really support it. I get like 1% a minute.

Also someone from android central forums stated that the idol 3 has the ability to wake up from off using alarm. I verified it and it's awesome. Such an old school feature that no one does anymore.

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Just returned my Moto G 2/16 gb since I bought the Idol 3 4.7. Had it since the 11th. The Moto G has no NFC or Gyroscope. Cameras are comparable. After taxes the Idol 3 is $50 cheaper. It comes with headphones. Better Speakers, display, cheaper, and without the missing features.
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What didn't you like about the moto g other than the lack of nfc and gyroscope? I'm thinking to get thisor the moto g. My 4gb zf2 is nice, but that dim screen is killing me outside. My other concern is hows the perfomace of the idol3? Feeling any lag? Also not so sure about the multi touch screen. I mean 2 points....come on.

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What didn't you like about the moto g other than the lack of nfc and gyroscope? I'm thinking to get thisor the moto g. My 4gb zf2 is nice, but that dim screen is killing me outside. My other concern is hows the perfomace of the idol3? Feeling any lag? Also not so sure about the multi touch screen. I mean 2 points....come on.
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The screen on the Moto G was washed out. Kind of bothered me. Idol 3s screen is better and brighter. No real lag. It is a great well rounded phone especially for the price. As far as multi touch points, I've gotten 5 with this app.

How about the visibility of the idol 4. 7 outside directly under the sun? This is what bothers me the most, I can't see anything outside on my zf2 when is nice and sunny.

I have the 5.5 idol 3 and the screen reaches over 600 nits outside and has excellent contrast. Cannot say about 4.7 model.
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How about the visibility of the idol 4. 7 outside directly under the sun? This is what bothers me the most, I can't see anything outside on my zf2 when is nice and sunny.
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It will be brighter than the zf2.

3dupunk said:
I can understand that some may not be able to spend more or just don't want to, that's a personal preference and that's why I said I would rather get the moto g 2015 if I wanted a smaller phone in the same price range rather than the 5.5 i3. As far as the moto g 2gb version not being available in canada, I didn't know that but I honestly wasn't thinking about those abroad when I wrote my comment.
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So what you're really saying is that you wouldn't buy a US$180 phone? Cool, everyone has different priorities.
So why state that the 4.7 is a worse deal than it's competition at the same price?
The price for the I3 5.5 is in the opo price range new and I still chose the i3 and zf2 over it. Imho the moto g and the 4.7 i3 appeal more so to people who are looking for smaller phones so that knocks the opo out of contention. Also, at least here in the states I would add the LG g2 to the list, which can be had for $150 and has better specs.
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Yes, paying more gives people more options - that's the point.
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Just returned my Moto G 2/16 gb since I bought the Idol 3 4.7. Had it since the 11th. The Moto G has no NFC or Gyroscope. Cameras are comparable. After taxes the Idol 3 is $50 cheaper. It comes with headphones. Better Speakers, display, cheaper, and without the missing features.
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I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on it after you've used it for a few weeks. Any lag/stutter? Does it heat up when navigation is running? Any issues with BT? How's the screen holding up (some phones don't have a very good oleophobic coating)?

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To everyone who is put off by the size of the Nexus 6

Get a Moto X 2014.
The Nexus 6 is built by Motorola and its basically just a blown up version of the Moto X 2014.
What's the differences between the 2 phones?
Moto X 2014 -
5.2" Display
Snapdragon 801
2gb Ram
1080p (423ppi)
2300 mAh Battery
5.08 oz (144 g)
Nexus 6 -
6" Display
Snapdragon 805
3gb Ram
1440p (493ppi)
3220 mAh Battery
Optical Image Stabilization (OIS)
6.49 oz (184 g)
Everything else (from what I understand) is the same!
Yes you're not getting the exact same specs shrunk down into the smaller Moto X but it's more in-line with what a lot of people think a "nexus device should be".
Moderate Specs, Moderate pricing and Stock android.
Here's a size comparison if anyone is interested:
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Who has money to buy a moto x 2014, buys a n5 and keeps some money. Moto X does not worth the money.
My op.
N5 should satisfy everyone that wants price/quality, and don't want bricks.
N5
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Who has money to buy a moto x 2014, buys a n5 and keeps some money. Moto X does not worth the money.
My op.
N5 should satisfy everyone that wants price/quality, and don't want bricks.
N5
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The N5 is a great device no doubt but the Moto X follows the exact same design language as the N6 which imo is an overall a more premium feeling device with better specs
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The biggest problem with the Motorola Moto X 2014 is the battery size.
If it was 3000 mAh, it would be a worthy alternative.
Specs wise, Snapdragon 805 and 800 and 801 are pretty simmilar ,unless you playe games a lot.
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Who has money to buy a moto x 2014, buys a n5 and keeps some money. Moto X does not worth the money.
My op.
N5 should satisfy everyone that wants price/quality, and don't want bricks.
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Agreed, there's a larger gap here in Canada between the Nexus 5 at $350 and Moto X at $600 than the X and Nexus 6 which is $750.
I'm unsure of American Moto X prices.
Droid Turbo will be released tomorrow. This should satisfy many of those who want same specs as N6 on a smaller phone.
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Droid Turbo will be released tomorrow. This should satisfy many of those who want same specs as N6 on a smaller phone.
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In the US...
EddyOS said:
In the US...
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And only on Verizon. And it will have a locked bootloader.
For you GSM guys though, it went through the FCC not too long ago with GSM bands. Rumor is that it will be released as the "Moto X Play" or "Moto Maxx" , two names that Motorola trademarked this year.
The only glaring difference here is the Nexus is a developer device, and supported directly by Google.
IMO get the Nexus 6, or Nexus 5 if the 6 is too big. The only carrier left out in that case is VZW, but that's not something new.
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The biggest problem with the Motorola Moto X 2014 is the battery size.
If it was 3000 mAh, it would be a worthy alternative.
Specs wise, Snapdragon 805 and 800 and 801 are pretty simmilar ,unless you playe games a lot.
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Not really that big a problem. It lasts longer than the N5 did. In almost every way is the x better than the n5.
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Not really that big a problem. It lasts longer than the N5 did. In almost every way is the x better than the n5.
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Not really my point.
It may last longer than the N5, but it still does not counter my argument that its 2300 mAh looks unimpressive. My phone from 2012 had 2150 mAh.
Regarddless of efficient it might be, the screen will consume battery no matter how efficient the system runs, and thats why I think that 2300 mAh is too little.
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Not really that big a problem. It lasts longer than the N5 did. In almost every way is the x better than the n5.
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My limited experience with the X says different. But maybe that limited experience is why. Also, many reviews don't put the battery life any better than on the N5. Some even less. This is personal preference but the screen on the N5 is much much nicer than the amoled panel on the X2014
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Not really my point.
It may last longer than the N5, but it still does not counter my argument that its 2300 mAh looks unimpressive. My phone from 2012 had 2150 mAh.
Regarddless of efficient it might be, the screen will consume battery no matter how efficient the system runs, and thats why I think that 2300 mAh is too little.
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Why does it matter if something looks unimpressive when it performs better? Real world performance is what matters in the end...
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jbdan said:
My limited experience with the X says different. But maybe that limited experience is why. Also, many reviews don't put the battery life any better than on the N5. Some even less. This is personal preference but the screen on the N5 is much much nicer than the amoled panel on the X2014
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But if you don't like Amoled then you probably weren't gonna get a N6 either? N6 and MotoX but are amoled displays
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Everything else (from what I understand) is the same!
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lol. So, most everything about the phone is different. Gotchya
Those of you put off by the size...
What are you still doing here? This is a Nexus 6 forum. The Nexus 6 Specs are finalised and there will be no 5 inch, removeable battery, sd card slot, nexus that you were hoping for.
So why is this forum still full of people dying to have their say about how the Nexus is TOO BIG? I'm getting pretty tired of reading the same stuff over and over again. If you don't like the Nexus 6 and have no interest in purchasing one, Please leave this forum for those of us who do.
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Those of you put off by the size...
What are you still doing here? This is a Nexus 6 forum. The Nexus 6 Specs are finalised and there will be no 5 inch, removeable battery, sd card slot, nexus that you were hoping for.
So why is this forum still full of people dying to have their say about how the Nexus is TOO BIG? I'm getting pretty tired of reading the same stuff over and over again. If you don't like the Nexus 6 and have no interest in purchasing one, Please leave this forum for those of us who do.
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they are holding onto hope it comes with super shrinking feature that's a hidden easter egg in lollipop
bigf00t said:
Those of you put off by the size...
What are you still doing here? This is a Nexus 6 forum. The Nexus 6 Specs are finalised and there will be no 5 inch, removeable battery, sd card slot, nexus that you were hoping for.
So why is this forum still full of people dying to have their say about how the Nexus is TOO BIG? I'm getting pretty tired of reading the same stuff over and over again. If you don't like the Nexus 6 and have no interest in purchasing one, Please leave this forum for those of us who do.
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Perhaps those people are intrigued to see what other peoples opinions are on it?
I have always been a Nexus guy, but this year I've been disappointed by Google with the screen size. Yeah sure, some people want a big 6" screen but for practical everyday use a lot of people want something a bit smaller - between 4.5" and 5".
I took the plunge and have gone over to the dark side and got myself and iPhone 6. I love it, it does everything an average phone user wants.
It has a decent size screen that looks beautiful in all conditions. Plus there are little extra quirks like 1080p at 60FPS and slow motion video at 240FPS. TouchID in a way that nobody else has managed to beat yet.
I think realistically the Nexus 6 and Lollipop both look amazing and I will be doing my normal thing and watching these forums to see what people do with them but I just can't imagine having to use a phone that big daily.
I will happily go on record and say that I'm sure within 1 - 2 months of owning the Nexus 6 some of you will be fed up with how big it is.
Wow. Thanks for letting me know I'll be fed up with my TOO BIG Nexus. Thanks for proving my point.
I am on the fence about it. I think the hardware improvements for the Nexus 6 are worth it's price, they are all the things I want:
-OIS camera with better sensor
-big enough battery for 5hours screen on time (not possible with my Moto X 2014 unless I use it conservatively)
-wireless charging
-stereo speakers
-all US carriers support
I might hold of preordering the Nexus 6 like I thought I would and wait for some of the reviews, but I know eventually I will likely buy one.
I love the Moto X, but I'm not as impressed with the 2014 version as I should be because they lack the aforementioned features. I just switched to the Moto X 2013 for a couple days and I'm really happy with what it offered for the price, I feel like I could live with the 2013 version. If the 2014 X had all the hardwares features of the Nexus 6 and cost $650 as well, it probably would be better for me.
If I buy the Nexus 6, I would use it as a tablet and backup device, it definitely will not be my daily driver. So I wouldn't be fully utilizing it.
So right now there isn't yet a perfect device for me. I want a phone with Motorola features and design with flagship hardwares, but not phablet size. I guess I have to wait to see what the Moto X 2015 will be like. If it's going to be a 5.5" screen I wouldn't be happy about it (unless they manage to have almost no bezel), it would be a begrudging upgrade, in that case I would get a used Nexus 6.

Moto X 2015 Specs Leaked

http://www.redmondpie.com/motorola-moto-x-2015-specs-leaked-online/
Snapdragon 808
4GB RAM (bit OTT me thinks)
3280mah Battery (finally!!!)
5.2in QHD AMOLED Screen
16MP Rear Camera (with OIS I hope!)
5MP front camera
No micro SD slot (who cares in this day and age!)
32GB or 64GB storage options
I've got a feeling that huge battery isn't going to last much longer than the current gen Moto X due to that power hungry QHD screen
If that holds true, I'm on board. The only thing that would keep me from getting the Moto X 2015 is if Google decides to bring the next Nexus phone back down to a reasonable size. Even then, I may stick to the Moto X. My firm's AirWatch policy does not allow rooted phones or custom ROMs, so with that in mind, the Moto X pure edition comes out looking as good or better than a 5.2 inch screen Nexus.
Paddington said:
If that holds true, I'm on board. The only thing that would keep me from getting the Moto X 2015 is if Google decides to bring the next Nexus phone back down to a reasonable size.
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Same here
Wutang200 said:
5.2in QHD AMOLED Screen
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5.2 inch is the perfect size for me! I think QHD is a good choice but I can live w/o it.
Paddington said:
If that holds true, I'm on board. The only thing that would keep me from getting the Moto X 2015 is if Google decides to bring the next Nexus phone back down to a reasonable size. Even then, I may stick to the Moto X. My firm's AirWatch policy does not allow rooted phones or custom ROMs, so with that in mind, the Moto X pure edition comes out looking as good or better than a 5.2 inch screen Nexus.
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Same here, but for me QHD is unnecessary...
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I have both the 2014 Moto X and the Moto Maxx. If they do go QHD in the Moto X hopefully they can source a better quality screen then the Maxx uses. It is QHD and offers nothing over the Moto X screen. Myself and friends have compared the screens side by side and the Moto X screen always wins.
The bigger the battery the better. I'd much prefer something closer to the Maxx battery which is 3900 mah. Would have liked wireless charging as well but this is unlikely if it has any kind of curved back.
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Same here, but for me QHD is unnecessary...
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Thanks. Frankly, my original Moto X screen has less banding and artifacts than my 2014. Sad to see manufacturers playing the pixel race.
Solutions Etcetera said:
Thanks. Frankly, my original Moto X screen has less banding and artifacts than my 2014. Sad to see manufacturers playing the pixel race.
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I thought the original Moto X screen was terrible. I could not get rid of that phone fast enough. I could list about 5059383 complaints I had with that phone, but I'll stick to the screen. It looked like absolute crap compared to my Nexus 7 and my Nexus 5 (which I got the day it came out and immediately sold my Moto X). Going from my Nexus 7 screen to my Moto X screen was like going from an HD flat screen TV to a 1950s box-style TV. You can see the list of phones I've owned in my signature, plus I purchased a GS4 for my girlfriend and have some experience using it. I rank the Moto X 2013 at the very bottom of that list without question. On the flip side, I rank the Moto X 2014 #2 on the list, right behind the Nexus 5. That is adjusting for the time frame, of course--I would rather have a Moto X 2014 than a Nexus 5 today, but the Nexus 5 from Oct. 2013-2014 was better than the Moto X Sept. 2014-Sept. 2015.
I'd like to see 1.5 days of heavy use in terms of battery life or two days of moderate use. I'd also like the screen to stay at 5.2" The Nexus 6 is just too big for me.
Good - 5.2" screen size and larger battery. 808 instead of 810.
Bad - QHD screen, waste of battery and will increase cost. Will also cause lag as the 808 chipset tries to push that many pixels.
4GB RAM seems unlikely.
Just realized the SD808 comes with a slower adreno (418) than the SD805 (420). Crap.
I'm waiting on anandtech's review to see what the real difference is between the two GPUs. I'm hoping just a slightly lower clock speed.
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Would have liked wireless charging as well but this is unlikely if it has any kind of curved back.
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Errrr, the secondary coil of the wireless charging system can be curved, no problem with that, the primary coil would still induces electricity on the secondary coil, curved or not.
QHD doesnt necessarily mean battery killer anymore.
With each successive generation Samsung has been systematically improving the power efficiency of their OLED displays. We measured a 20 percent improvement in display power efficiency between the Galaxy S5 and the Galaxy S6, which is especially impressive given that the Galaxy S6 has almost double the number of pixels and therefore much higher processing overhead
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http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S6_ShootOut_1.htm
They can be pretty efficient.
For you guys how much this phone will cost?
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QHD is a technology that is being pushed to the consumers as just benefits. In the future, the cons will be minimized because we will have stringer SOC with minimal impact in this resolution, most energy efficient screens and better batteries. But it's feasible in the near future, not in this year...
I prefer a cheaper phone or a smoother and battery efficient phone now, not 600 ppi in my 5" display...
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Between $674,98 and $687,25 off-contract.
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Between $674,98 and $687,25 off-contract.
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Those are some very specific price guesses!
Steve-x said:
Would have liked wireless charging as well but this is unlikely if it has any kind of curved back.
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But the N6 has wireless charging and a curved back?
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Paddington said:
I thought the original Moto X screen was terrible. I could not get rid of that phone fast enough. I could list about 5059383 complaints I had with that phone,
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I love my MX13 - great as a daily driver. Maybe you got a bad one?
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I'd like to see 1.5 days of heavy use in terms of battery life.
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They would have to make the phone thick and heavy like the Droid Turbo/Maxx to get that kind of battery performance. I prefer the lighter, thinner Moto X to the Turbo/Maxx.
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For you guys how much this phone will cost?
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No one knows yet, but if it is like the Moto X 2014, it will likely be $500 on launch for the base model and $50 more for the larger storage and $25 more for the premium backs. But now that Lenovo owns Motorola maybe not.
These so called leaks always make me laugh. I could have made up a spreadsheet of specs and it would look pretty similar to this. I think these sites makeup these leaks for clicks. My preference would be same screen size at 1080, 3000mAh battery and better camera processing sw.
Same screen better color calibration, same edge thinness but slightly thicker middle to fit a 2800-3000mah battery, camera obviously,
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LG G4 PRO Coming in October

The new LG G4 Pro is coming this october
The specs are:
Screen: 5.8" 1440x2560
SoC: Snapdragon 820
RAM: 4GB
Storage: 32/64GB
Camera: 27MP
Case: Metal
Do you think the G4 was premature and do you feel like LG ripped you off.
Leave your comments below.
Jury is still out, but an upgrade less than six months after debuting......that's not going to sit well with a LOT of people.
No I don't. It's good to have options and price wise the G4 is well worth it. Its like the S6 line up or the iPhones. They all have different versions of the same device so why not LG G4?
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The new LG G4 Pro is coming this october
The specs are:
Screen: 5.8" 1440x2560
SoC: Snapdragon 820
RAM: 4GB
Storage: 32/64GB
Camera: 27MP
Case: Metal
Do you think the G4 was premature and do you feel like LG ripped you off.
Leave your comments below.
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And its still just a rumor, both the availability of the phone and those specs you posted.
There is no guarantee it's a global release. It's a bigger phone so doesn't really interest me going away from my G4. I think 5.5 is the perfect size for a screen.
5.5" screen is as big as I'll go with a phone so I'm content with the G4, if anything I could always use my Jump if I wanted to get this phone.
Reasons I'm not bothered:
1) Only rumours, so who really knows
2) The G4 is still a fantastic phone
3) The G4 is a particularly fantastic phone for the PRICE (which is easily £100-200 cheaper than almost all current rivals)
4) The G4 Pro will be super expensive. I don't pay stupid money for phones out of principal, so I'd probably sit it out anyway.
Go for G4 Pro "only' if you need bigger screen or fablet. Otherwise, G4 5.5" is perfect for use.
All rumors 5.8 btw is way to big ! 5.5 is really the max to handle with one hand .
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It's wayyyy to big! G4 is pushing the size already. I won't do any bigger! G4 is all good in the hood.
depends on the price they release the G4 Pro at, and the size too. the increased size will be a limitation for some. I've had the g2, g3 and now the g4, and even though the g4 is only marginally larger than the g3, it was noticeable to me. I'm not sure I want a Nexus 6 sized phone. Plus I can jump in Jan 16 if it's worth it.
I think it is a sealed unit. No thanks
Doesn't bother me. I basically see it as the Galaxy S and Note line situation. First half of the year is reserved for the flagship with a smaller screen and later in the year the bigger device gets released with an obvious spec bump.
Who cares. If we bought phones based on what comes out in 6 months then we would never pull the trigger.
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You might be glad to have this phone. According to that specs it won't be anywhere close to $600 range. I'm guessing more like $800 - $1000. And did Qualcomm announce snapdragon 820? I know they announced SD810 revison 2 or something.
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That device is already well into tablet territory. I'll stick with my LG G4. Owning an LG G4 Pro would not justify me owning a Nexus 7.
I can barely handle the G4 5.5" one handed. The G2 was really the sweet spot. If they designed the G2 similar to the G4, with a curved back/screen, I could probably do 5.3 or 5.4 comfortably. 5.5 is just a hair outside of my comfort zone but is manageable.
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Reasons I'm not bothered:
1) Only rumours, so who really knows
2) The G4 is still a fantastic phone
3) The G4 is a particularly fantastic phone for the PRICE (which is easily £100-200 cheaper than almost all current rivals)
4) The G4 Pro will be super expensive. I don't pay stupid money for phones out of principal, so I'd probably sit it out anyway.
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5) given history, it won't even come to the USA
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And its still just a rumor, both the availability of the phone and those specs you posted.
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This really cannot be emphasized enough. Remember how the first alleged G4/G4 Note leak from late March by that T-Mobile employee actually turned out to be the mid-range Stylo? October is a long way away and nobody gets it correct this early.
As for my thoughts:
The G4 is already borderline in terms of comfortably fitting in my pocket. It already doesn't fit the cupholder of one of my cars and barely fits in the cupholder of the other.
G4 : G4 Pro :: Galaxy S6 : Galaxy Note 5
I needed a new phone 3-6 months ago.
If you keep waiting for something better to come out, you'll never buy anything.
I heavily considered the Nexus 6 as it is the only BL unlocked phone on VZW. In the end though, it was just to big to carry in a pocket for me.

Moto X Play & Moto X Style Announced - Extremely Disappointed!!

http://www.redmondpie.com/moto-x-style-moto-x-play-announced-specs-release-date-price/
I think it's officially time for me to move onto something else after my Moto X 2nd Gen!
Here's what completely puts me off upgrading to the Moto X Play (Style is completely out of the question!!!):
-SIZE!!!
-Heavier
-Thicker
-No 802.11ac WiFi
-Almost same type of processor!
-No 4k video recording
-Same single speaker design instead of dual speakers
-No OIS (this should be standard by now for a 2015 flagship!!!)
Are any of you guys enticed by this crap?? Seems like selling their soul to the devil (Lenovo) has made them completely lose it!
Apparently the Moto X Style has an LCD display?????? I take it no Moto Display on this version then??
Extremely disappointed in Motorola but those of you that used to whinge about having a micro SD slot will be over the moon lol.
This is what is called a flounce?
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http://www.redmondpie.com/moto-x-style-moto-x-play-announced-specs-release-date-price/
I think it's officially time for me to move onto something else after my Moto X 2nd Gen!
Here's what completely puts me off upgrading to the Moto X Play (Style is completely out of the question!!!):
-SIZE!!!
-Heavier
-Thicker
-No 802.11ac WiFi
-Almost same type of processor!
-No 4k video recording
-Same single speaker design instead of dual speakers
-No OIS (this should be standard by now for a 2015 flagship!!!)
Are any of you guys enticed by this crap?? Seems like selling their soul to the devil (Lenovo) has made them completely lose it!
Apparently the Moto X Style has an LCD display?????? I take it no Moto Display on this version then??
Extremely disappointed in Motorola but those of you that used to whinge about having a micro SD slot will be over the moon lol.
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I'm assuming you aren't in the US, since that phone won't even be available to us. I'll see what the next nexus phones are like, but chances are it will come down to the camera for me this time around
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I was surprised that they didn't talk about software improvements... I was hoping Motorola would add more assist/voice features
But price is a huge positive....
I think I'll keep hold of my X 2014 for another year and go for the iPhone 7 next year.
I'll really miss Tasker and Moto Voice though
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Yeah, I am totaly disappointed too. I will keep my moto x too and will now try to root it.
Moto Display in a LCD is a big challange.
The moto x is always not the flagship model of the motorola.
The Droid Turbo did!
But the next version of Droid has not even announced yet
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The X Play version isn't their flagship anymore, it's like a higher-mid tier option. And considering its battery size at a price point that starts at $300 dollars, I'd say you're getting a pretty good deal. The 2014 X retailed at $500 in case you don't remember.
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The moto x is always not the flagship model of the motorola.
The Droid Turbo did!
But the next version of Droid has not even announced yet
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Well I would have called the nexus 6 their flagship of 2014 instead of the turbo since the droid line was Verizon exclusive.
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The X Play version isn't their flagship anymore, it's like a higher-mid tier option. And considering its battery size at a price point that starts at $300 dollars, I'd say you're getting a pretty good deal. The 2014 X retailed at $500 in case you don't remember.
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The X play is more like the step between the MOTO G and the MOTO X. It doesn't look like the nexus is returning to Motorola this year so the new MOTO X probably will be their flagship device. I mean 6 core processor, 21 megapixel camera, 5 megapixel front facing camera.
What could come out topping that on Motorola's end? Oh ya and 5.7 inch full resolution screen. As well as a micro SD slot returning. Did you guys read the specs? What more do you want out of a phone
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What more do you want out of a phone
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Something that's as sleek as the Moto X 2014??
Something that's as thin and compact in my hand?
Metal back?
These things are huge and I believe this is gonna be their downfall.
I've been a massive Moto X fan since they first released the very first Moto X but I really can't stand the new models and am sad that I'll be forced to move to another device (most likely an iPhone).
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Something that's as sleek as the Moto X 2014??
Something that's as thin and compact in my hand?
Metal back?
These things are huge and I believe this is gonna be their downfall.
I've been a massive Moto X fan since they first released the very first Moto X but I really can't stand the new models and am sad that I'll be forced to move to another device (most likely an iPhone).
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I'm pretty sure the majority of users here will happily trade an extra millimeter of thickness to accommodate a bigger battery.
You'll be saying the same thing when the Moto X 2016 is announced lol. It seems to be getting bigger each year. I'm certain next year's model will hit 6 inches in screen size like the Nexus 6.
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Very disappointed in the new Moto X Style announcement. 5.7" is way too big. 5.2" is my limit. Also the snapdragon 800 series 808 or 810 are very disappointing to me along with losing the Amoled display. I will be holding onto my 2014 Moto X until next year.
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Very disappointed in the new Moto X Style announcement. 5.7" is way too big. 5.2" is my limit. Also the snapdragon 800 series 808 or 810 are very disappointing to me along with losing the Amoled display. I will be holding onto my 2014 Moto X until next year.
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I bought the new Moto G, because hell, it's $220, why not? And then will wait to see what the next Nexus is like. I agree, 5.7 is just too damn big.
Sounds like I'm one of the few who likes the new size. It's physically about the same size as the iPhone 6+ which fits in my pocket fine and the larger size is great for movies and games when coupled with the stereo speakers.
I also prefer the LCD to AMOLED. MotoDisplay is still going to be doable and with LCDs becoming more and more efficient it shouldn't have a huge impact on battery life.
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Very disappointed in the new Moto X Style announcement. 5.7" is way too big. 5.2" is my limit. Also the snapdragon 800 series 808 or 810 are very disappointing to me along with losing the Amoled display. I will be holding onto my 2014 Moto X until next year.
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Exactly my thoughts on it!
Moto X Play seems a downgrade to me in all aspects other than the battery department. I'll reserve my judgement on the 21MP camera until it's been properly tested.
Another phone I'm now considering is the Z4 Compact if it loses some fat.
Wutang200 said:
Something that's as sleek as the Moto X 2014??
Something that's as thin and compact in my hand?
Metal back?
These things are huge and I believe this is gonna be their downfall.
I've been a massive Moto X fan since they first released the very first Moto X but I really can't stand the new models and am sad that I'll be forced to move to another device (most likely an iPhone).
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I agree. I am hoping for the new Nexus 5 will be good...if not I might try to get a OP2. iPhone would be my last resort, but still an option.
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The moto x is always not the flagship model of the motorola.
The Droid Turbo did!
But the next version of Droid has not even announced yet
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How is a one carrier phone the flagship? The Moto X is, has been and will be the flagship.
I don't mind the new size. As I get older a bigger screen is good for my eyes, lol. I did say I'd pick my next phone on getting at least a half way decent camera so that will determine it for me. I was also thinking having expandable storage would be important for my purposes so it's nice that Motorola is kind of bucking that trend.
It'll be interesting to see what Google come up with.
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Ikr. The Moto X Pure is going to be fantastic! I can't wait to get it and unlock its bootloader!!!!
I think I will go with a black front, white back and champagne accents. So pretty!
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As I get older a bigger screen is good for my eyes, lol.
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So true! I use my phone as much as a mobile computing device as a phone so a big screen is good for me too. I can see how guys who want to carry the phone in their pocket don't like larger phones and if you can read those smaller screens great but I can't.

Which is a better smartphone OP2 or Moto X Style?

Hey friends I would like to know which smartphone is better compared to battery life, camera, updates and over all performance and why?,
If you plan on unlocking the bootloader, but want to keep the factory warranty get the OPT. If you don't care about the warranty or you don't plan on unlocking the bootloader, then get the Moto X Style. I personally have the OPT, but that was just because of my great experience with the OPO. I was rather disappointed though. If I could do it all over again, I would have gotten the Nexus 6P or the Moto X Style.
I've been having some random freezing on my OPT. Mainly when pulling down the notification drawer. Pretty annoying to me, especially when my OPO still runs like a dream! OxygenOS isn't mature enough to be a widely used daily driver yet IMO.
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If you plan on unlocking the bootloader, but want to keep the factory warranty get the OPT. If you don't care about the warranty or you don't plan on unlocking the bootloader, then get the Moto X Style. I personally have the OPT, but that was just because of my great experience with the OPO. I was rather disappointed though. If I could do it all over again, I would have gotten the Nexus 6P or the Moto X Style.
I've been having some random freezing on my OPT. Mainly when pulling down the notification drawer. Pretty annoying to me, especially when my OPO still runs like a dream! OxygenOS isn't mature enough to be a widely used daily driver yet IMO.
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Okay.. Well lemme ask you something. If we unlock the bootloader in Moto X and then if we lock it back, don't you think we can get the warranty...? Something like we usually do in old days.
sam razzy said:
Okay.. Well lemme ask you something. If we unlock the bootloader in Moto X and then if we lock it back, don't you think we can get the warranty...? Something like we usually do in old days.
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I wouldn't count on that solution. You might could consider getting something like a 3rd party accidental warranty. That should keep it covered even if you unlock the bootloader.
Considering the camera which one would be better?
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Considering the camera which one would be better?
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They're both very good. Pretty much interchangeable. After owning the op2 for about 5 months now I can't express enough how terribly I want a moto x. I've had quite a few problems with this phone, if you don't plan on rooting than the moto x is the easy winner
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They're both very good. Pretty much interchangeable. After owning the op2 for about 5 months now I can't express enough how terribly I want a moto x. I've had quite a few problems with this phone, if you don't plan on rooting than the moto x is the easy winner
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I got one more phone which I really looking forward - LG G4
Had the Moto X Style before and like the OPT more.
I have OPT. I rooted it, installed a bunch of xposed modules and whatnot. Never had any significant problems with it. Performance (antutu score is way better than Moto X) and battery life are great (GSam reports 5:45 SOT). Also consider the fact that a 64GB Moto X costs at least $100 more than OPT. There only two factors where Moto X excels: quick charging and screen resolution.
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I have OPT. I rooted it, installed a bunch of xposed modules and whatnot. Never had any significant problems with it. Performance (antutu score is way better than Moto X) and battery life are great (GSam reports 5:45 SOT). Also consider the fact that a 64GB Moto X costs at least $100 more than OPT. There only two factors where Moto X excels: quick charging and screen resolution.
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Screen resolution is debatable, less battery, less performance and working on adreno 418... That's a choice, not a pro, personally i love that Oneplus 2 has a FullHD display and not a QHD, i could bought LG G4, Moto x pure, or whatever 500uds or less. I decided Oneplus 2 and im very happy with my decisión. Thanks god i didnt belive the overheating rumors, they are exagerated, my nexus 5 got hotter.
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I got one more phone which I really looking forward - LG G4
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I was between the same devices. My decisión was LG G4 or Oneplus 2. Moto X it was my third choice.
I choose the op2 because of this:
-Full HD screen : more battery and less GPU demanding
-SoC: 810 vs 808. That means ram lpddr4 vs lpddr3, adreno 418 (qHD) vs adreno 430 (FHD).
About heating, because of the rumors oneplus throttle the devices too fast, if you edited the thermal file with boeffla kernel you could have awesome performance, for more info about throttle pm me.
-Fingerprint scanner.
-XDA community, not too much for no but it will grow up. Oneplus is contacting devs from XDA, that must be a good thing.
-Capacitive buttons, so it does not take space from the screen
-Alert slider is useful, but lg g4 volume buttons are very nice too.
-4gb vs 3gb, its not a real life difference but maybe it will be.
EDIT:- Better battery life. 3300mah vs 3000mah, also fhd vs qhd must make a difference.
About nfc, for almost 2 years i never use it on my nexus 5, so its not a problem for me.
Hope you can decide for the best, come with us :fingers-crossed:
About heat: The Moto X felt a lot warmer than my OPT
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About heat: The Moto X felt a lot warmer than my OPT
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I heard a lot about it
Me too, I've been wavering between OP2 and X Style for 1 month, view all youtube videos about those phones, borrow my friends'
Then OP2 was my final decision, and I don't regret about it
There's no better phones over others, just this phone is suitable for you than the others
In details:
OP2 vs X Style
Screen: FullHD 5.5" is enough
RAM: 4GB vs 3GB
CPU: 810 v2.1 vs 808
Storage: 64GB is enough for me, but X Style has an expandable slot
VGA: Adreno 430 vs Adreno 418
Sensors: Fingerprint scanner, doubletap2wake, Gyroscope.. I don't need Moto Voice or Moto Ambient Display
Battery: 3300 mAh vs 3000 mAh
This is just my humble opinions about OP2's strength, of course there're lots of pros of X Style that maybe suitable for you, for example NFC, quick charging, slightly better camera, durable brand name Motorola,...
I'm a fanboy of Motorola, but sorry Moto, my decision this time is OP2 =)
And the decision was...?
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LG G4
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Im in love with the UI and Camera. I used Nexus phones and OPO before. Total new experience with this..
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