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Im curious if anyone uses or has any luck with a wireless charging pad?
I know there are a few of them, energizer plans on coming out with one in Nov. and duracells can be found on their site...(sorry Im too new to post a link)
Im just curious if anyone can confirm they work on an EVO before I go shell out the cash.
EDIT: I can confirm that Duracell only supports
HTC
* TOUCH PRO
* DROIDERIS
* HERO
Still researching the others.
Powermat has an evo specific solution.
I'd love to know if the powermat battery cover can be used with the touchstone charger from palm.
That could be a nice solution for a secondary charger.
Cheers,
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ryedunn said:
Im curious if anyone uses or has any luck with a wireless charging pad?
I know there are a few of them, energizer plans on coming out with one in Nov. and duracells can be found on their site...(sorry Im too new to post a link)
Im just curious if anyone can confirm they work on an EVO before I go shell out the cash.
EDIT: I can confirm that Duracell only supports
HTC
* TOUCH PRO
* DROIDERIS
* HERO
Still researching the others.
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The Duracell MyGrid works on the EVO. I tested one at work. Wasn't a big fan though, as you still have to plug in the charging clip, which felt like I might as well just use a normal charger.
Bp3dots said:
The Duracell MyGrid works on the EVO. I tested one at work. Wasn't a big fan though, as you still have to plug in the charging clip, which felt like I might as well just use a normal charger.
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Exactly. I'm still waiting for this technology to mature. IMO, it's still waaaay too exepnsive to justify the cost. Seriously, how much more utility can you get from it? You can't hold it and charge it at the same time either. PowerMat's solution doesn't let you plug into the usb port w/o taking off the cover.
John Kotches said:
I'd love to know if the powermat battery cover can be used with the touchstone charger from palm.
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I'd guess no since palm induction doesn't work on a powermat.
I just got back from a work trip and was thinking about picking up one if the powermat kits from best buy. This way, I figure I can return it if I'm not happy. I'll let yall know how it works out (if they have it in stock, that is).
I have a powermat for the evo i just got thursday, i came from a palm pre and thats the one thing i missed. i had a slight concern about it at first due to the back cover using up the micro usb port on the phone (i thought i'd have to remove it if i needed to charge it in the car or whatever) but the microusb section of the back cover can actually be removed for other charging devices to be plugged in.
I like it.
EDIT: it does not work with cases, it's slightly thicker and has a microUSB lip that comes out near the kickstand.
Has anyone seen any docking stations rumored?
I am looking for something that I can drop it in/on and it will go into clock (dock) mode.
Thx!
Just get a normal stand and a charger and an NFC sticker and use Automate It (I think that's the name) to tell it to enter dock mode.
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You know the Nexus 7 was supposed to have a dock, it was leaked and everything. We still don't have it.
The answer is probably. Eventually. Some day. Google is HORRIBLE with accessory support, it takes them much longer than it should to release their products.
sadly seems that the N4 doesn't have POGO pins, I love them and they are on the N7 N10 and GNex, I don't understand why google removed them from the N4!
Interesting on the automate - it idea.
I love the POGO pins on our n1's, so easy to pop on the cradle and done. We have 3 cradles.
Google really handled the accessories with the N1 well, maybe after that one they weren't as good, I didn't follow the other devices.
I can't figure out why more devices don't use POGO's... Especially the high end ones like this...
Tuxliri said:
sadly seems that the N4 doesn't have POGO pins, I love them and they are on the N7 N10 and GNex, I don't understand why google removed them from the N4!
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Well, as far as POGO for charging... this one has QI, so there's no need for the pins, just drop it on a compatible pad and it's charging. Anything else could be handled with NFC recognition and bluetooth data exchange.
Right, as long as we can get it to go into doc moed automatically and it sites on a decent angle to be viewed from the side it will suffice.
So far I have not found any.
USSENTERNCC1701E said:
Well, as far as POGO for charging... this one has QI, so there's no need for the pins, just drop it on a compatible pad and it's charging. Anything else could be handled with NFC recognition and bluetooth data exchange.
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I hope this will be true, but it's still a lot more complex than the pogo pin solution. Lack of pogo pins is the deal-breaker for me on any upgrade to the N4. If Google does release a dock with all the functionality of the GN docks via Qi, NFC, and Bluetooth that works seamlessly and holds the phone at a good angle for clock mode, they will probably get me to upgrade. Fingers crossed...
That you think about this one - iLuv MobiRock ?
Sorry, i can't share links.
Look at www [dot] iluv [dot] com
Status: Pre-order
Price: 249$
Bluetooth for music
Qi for charging
NFC for easy pairing
I've been mulling this over, and here is where I'm at so far...
Can we develop a relatively easy / straight forward wireless charging mod for the LG G2, similar to what has been done for the Samsung Galaxy S3/4 and Note 2?
At first it doesn't seem that likely, as there's not much space behind the cover of the G2, and not being designed to be removable, is relatively hard to get off. Maybe not that hard though. Some looking around here at XDA shows several people who have removed their back covers to rough them up and get rid of the shiny plastic / tendency to collect fingerprints, so it seems taking it off / putting it back on without damaging the phone is quite possible.
The main thing then is finding a coil / receiver setup thin enough that it won't cause bulging or fitment issues, which may not be possible while retaining the "stock" back.
I suspect we may be able to get around this by using a "snap on" style hard case and some padding to maintain the over all look of the phone, effectively mounting the coil in the resulting gap where the back cover once was. This isn't my idea originally -- I've seen several people do this when using exceptionally thick aftermarket cases for the Galaxy S3, where they either removed the stock back of the phone entirely or built the Palm charging coil in to the back of the case The main issue with this sort of setup would be the area around the buttons / camera lens as it would have a space there and likely collect dust and dirt / be more likely to get damaged. If the stock back becomes available (like via ebay, say) relatively cheaply I could see some people buying a spare and modifying it relatively easy to cover this problem area, we're talking about a thin piece of plastic after all.
The only remaining issue would be getting the coil connected, then. I have yet to open the AT&T version or see a picture of one opened (all the pictures I've seen thus far have been the VZW version with the wireless charging built in) but as I understand the AT&T and T-Mobile versions likely don't include the pogo pins used to connect the charging coil for the VZW version, so we'd have to find somewhere else to connect, likely to the charging pins of the USB port as has been done for other wireless charging mods with earlier phones.
All in all this probably won't be a common mod (we're likely in solid "warranty voiding / can't easily be reversed" territory here) but I don't see any definite reason so far why it wouldn't be doable.
Would anyone else (ideally someone with more "involved" hardware modding experience -- I've just done the Palm Touchstone mod in a few Samsung GS3s) like to chime in here? Suggestions?
I love my G2 and I imagine ROM / community support is going to be great since the Nexus 5 is looking to be based off of it, but after only a week or so of ownership I'm really missing just setting the GS3 on the Touchstone at night, and while the USB port seems sturdy enough I don't like risking it every time I charge.
silent-circuit said:
I've been mulling this over, and here is where I'm at so far...
Can we develop a relatively easy / straight forward wireless charging mod for the LG G2, similar to what has been done for the Samsung Galaxy S3/4 and Note 2?
At first it doesn't seem that likely, as there's not much space behind the cover of the G2, and not being designed to be removable, is relatively hard to get off. Maybe not that hard though. Some looking around here at XDA shows several people who have removed their back covers to rough them up and get rid of the shiny plastic / tendency to collect fingerprints, so it seems taking it off / putting it back on without damaging the phone is quite possible.
The main thing then is finding a coil / receiver setup thin enough that it won't cause bulging or fitment issues, which may not be possible while retaining the "stock" back.
I suspect we may be able to get around this by using a "snap on" style hard case and some padding to maintain the over all look of the phone, effectively mounting the coil in the resulting gap where the back cover once was. This isn't my idea originally -- I've seen several people do this when using exceptionally thick aftermarket cases for the Galaxy S3, where they either removed the stock back of the phone entirely or built the Palm charging coil in to the back of the case The main issue with this sort of setup would be the area around the buttons / camera lens as it would have a space there and likely collect dust and dirt / be more likely to get damaged. If the stock back becomes available (like via ebay, say) relatively cheaply I could see some people buying a spare and modifying it relatively easy to cover this problem area, we're talking about a thin piece of plastic after all.
The only remaining issue would be getting the coil connected, then. I have yet to open the AT&T version or see a picture of one opened (all the pictures I've seen thus far have been the VZW version with the wireless charging built in) but as I understand the AT&T and T-Mobile versions likely don't include the pogo pins used to connect the charging coil for the VZW version, so we'd have to find somewhere else to connect, likely to the charging pins of the USB port as has been done for other wireless charging mods with earlier phones.
All in all this probably won't be a common mod (we're likely in solid "warranty voiding / can't easily be reversed" territory here) but I don't see any definite reason so far why it wouldn't be doable.
Would anyone else (ideally someone with more "involved" hardware modding experience -- I've just done the Palm Touchstone mod in a few Samsung GS3s) like to chime in here? Suggestions?
I love my G2 and I imagine ROM / community support is going to be great since the Nexus 5 is looking to be based off of it, but after only a week or so of ownership I'm really missing just setting the GS3 on the Touchstone at night, and while the USB port seems sturdy enough I don't like risking it every time I charge.
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I have an Optimus G Pro, but a family member got a G2 as a gift. I have Qi, but they don't (T-Mo version). I'd be interested in helping out; just not sure they'd let me open theirs up. Are you sure it lacks the pogo pins? And, additionally, for Qi, could the patch in the G Pro be potentially helpful?
I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more momentum...
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I have an Optimus G Pro, but a family member got a G2 as a gift. I have Qi, but they don't (T-Mo version). I'd be interested in helping out; just not sure they'd let me open theirs up. Are you sure it lacks the pogo pins? And, additionally, for Qi, could the patch in the G Pro be potentially helpful?
I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more momentum...
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You can compare the pins in these pictures. Notice the extra 2 contacts by the NFC contacts on the Verizon version.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/17/uhu5a3aj.jpg
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and people complain about android fragmentation.
Here we have the same LG G2 and you get wireless charging on one and not on the others. You have to buy the flip case for them based on your carrier. It's rather retarded if you ask me. They should all have the wireless charging.
Not just an LG thing either.
OP, to you answer your question, this isn't possible. I run an android parts shop and we have torn down a D801, D802 and a VS980. I have a D802 myself and wanted the wireless charging ability. My technician said it wasn't possible, the wireless charging module from the VS980 has no place to connect to on a D80x board.
:crying:
The best solution I think would be to solder the coil straight to the USB charging lines, but if that isn't possible I guess you could connect the coil to a USB plug and then just connect the plug on the USB port and leave it there all the time (you'd only need to remove it when you connect the phone to the PC). You would need to find a rather small USB head (ideally one with a 90 degree angle) so it doesn't get in the way.
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The best solution I think would be to solder the coil straight to the USB charging lines, but if that isn't possible I guess you could connect the coil to a USB plug and then just connect the plug on the USB port and leave it there all the time (you'd only need to remove it when you connect the phone to the PC). You would need to find a rather small USB head (ideally one with a 90 degree angle) so it doesn't get in the way.
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Agreed. Something like: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Type-A-Micro...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item51b4da088d
I actually did this recently to my Verizon Galaxy Nexus. I used a Note 2 Qi Receiver pad. I took my soldering iron and melted plastic casing away to expose 5V and GND where I soldered 2 beads for connection. I then fitted the Qi Pad over the beads and adjusted for a good connection. Added Double Sided tape and applied my Incipio Feather Case. When I removed the case, the double sided tape kept the Qi Pad on the case, where I permanently installed it.
I have the actual back plate cut in half to keep the camera whole sealed, but the battery and Qi pad is exposed. I basically built myself a Qi Charging Case. Remove the case and replace the back cover with a whole one, and it's gone.
Wireless Charging WAS a requirement for my next phone and luckily only the Verizon variant had it. I saw it as fate.
But conclusion is that just because the internal case doesn't have charging leads available, doesn't mean you can't make it happen. To pour salt in the wound, the Qi Charging works fantastic on the VZW model. I use it every day.
I really hope something comes up with this. I've got the ATT D800 and came from a Nokia Lumia 920 with Qi. I still have the Nokia charger and would LOVE to go back to it. I know some people say it's not important, but those are people who have not tried it yet.
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and people complain about android fragmentation.
Here we have the same LG G2 and you get wireless charging on one and not on the others. You have to buy the flip case for them based on your carrier. It's rather retarded if you ask me. They should all have the wireless charging.
Not just an LG thing either.
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If I have to choose between wireless charging and flawless GPS performance, I'll take the latter.
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nismology said:
If I have to choose between wireless charging and flawless GPS performance, I'll take the latter.
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My Lumia had flawless GPS and Wireless Charging. It can be done. I may break open my G2 and look around a bit...
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My Lumia had flawless GPS and Wireless Charging. It can be done. I may break open my G2 and look around a bit...
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My post was specific to the G2. There is obviously no causal link between wireless charging tech in general and spotty GPS reception but it seems to be the case here. Anecdotally, it somehow has an affect on the VZW model's ability to acquire and maintain a lock.
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My post was specific to the G2. There is obviously no causal link between wireless charging tech in general and spotty GPS reception but it seems to be the case here. Anecdotally, it somehow has an affect on the VZW model's ability to acquire and maintain a lock.
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I hadn't read that yet. Sounds like they put the charging coil too close to the GPS antenna.
I've just ordered one off eBay: http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=261329370615
They're reasonable cheap so I figured I'd try it out and see how it performs. Not going to solder as of now though
//M
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I have no problem with the GPS on Verizon... Acquire locks very fast as well.
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You can compare the pins in these pictures. Notice the extra 2 contacts by the NFC contacts on the Verizon version.
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My question, though, is what the circuits look like on the back side of the board. It might still have the wiring, just no holes/connector
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My question, though, is what the circuits look like on the back side of the board. It might still have the wiring, just no holes/connector
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I can't speak definitively, but from my experience the traces for those connections are on the same side as they're surface mounted.
I suppose not possible then....?
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I suppose not possible then....?
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HI8JYFE
I have one now, but I haven't gotten in the charging pad to test it, yet.
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eagerly awaiting this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imhoFe4bbFU
neat mod, but seems that it still needs further testing since its so new. qi charging at the end of the video.
very interesting, hope to see a video on how they do it!
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very interesting, hope to see a video on how they do it!
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does anyone know whats the biggest qi wireless receiver pad on the market?
duckxtales said:
does anyone know whats the biggest qi wireless receiver pad on the market?
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I have to believe it is something like the Tylt Vu. It has three coils and is quite tall.
This mod makes me happy as I wait for my N5X to be delivered but that theme just brings back a memory from the only time I've shedded a tear in a video game.
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very interesting... Still really risky, you will have to void the warranty to do this and if you don't shield the heat or if the wire touches something wrong it could brick. Just be careful guys. Zsnaps is a safer alternative that makes charging simple. Wish they would ship already
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I have to believe it is something like the Tylt Vu. It has three coils and is quite tall.
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not charger. but a receiver pad.
Why can't someone make a bumper case for the 5X that incorporates a Qi charging coil and plugs into the USB socket? I think there are auxiliary batteries for some phones like that. That would work for me.
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Why can't someone make a bumper case for the 5X that incorporates a Qi charging coil and plugs into the USB socket? I think there are auxiliary batteries for some phones like that. That would work for me.
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im sure someone is going to make one. but not everyone likes to use a case.
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... but not everyone likes to use a case.
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Agreed. And (surprising to me) not everyone likes wireless charging. I hope the intersection of the two (and the 5x community) is big enough to warrant market attention.
I asked the poster ,xCubicle....
What's the large light grey patch on the inside of the back cover?
It can be seen in the ifixit teardown images at step 4.
Got the response...
"useless sticker. peeled it off."
I couldn't help but think back to the AMA
specifically the part "...Meanwhile, wireless charging adds z (thickness)..."
So what's the deal here with the blatant capability of qi wireless being designed into the rear case but the spec being deleted...?
It's because they did not want to give qi to the 5x and leave it out of the 6p because it has an aluminum body.
Crazy Chuckster said:
It's because they did not want to give qi to the 5x and leave it out of the 6p because it has an aluminum body.
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I'm pretty sure you hit the nail on the head here.
It wouldn't have been as bad if they'd just said that, but the bull****ting about thickness as an excuse is not cool.
after further testing with the mod. i am indeed able to charge wirelessly up to 100% from 0%. i measured the wireless charging current and it seems to range from 100-500ma charge rate. a typical charger ranges from 1000-2500ma charge rate.
regardless, its a working mod so far.
i need to refine the wiring to layout to make it a bit more appealing before i offer it as a modding service.
Awesome news. Looking forward to potentially doing this mod myself!
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I have to believe it is something like the Tylt Vu. It has three coils and is quite tall.
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I bought this for my Nexus 7. Yep it is the largest one, you can even buy it from a Verizon store.
Charging time
Can anyone comment on the wireless charging time with the mod compared to the wireless charging time on the older Nexus 5 which had it built in?
In the same boat as many, where the lack of Qi has prevented me from upgrading
What will happen if wireless charging and USB Charging together?
Not even sure what happens now
To answer my own question form my last post. "Even the more expensive Qi modules appear to charge slower than the factory built in modules". Not sure what the reason for would be? Or people do not realize they are buying lower powered (yet more expensive) modules. Most posts I have seen refer to 500mAh modules
My fingerprint scanner doesn't work while plugged in, is there any reason or explanation for this? I'm using a third-party charger, and will try my official one when I get home, but it doesn't make much sense to me and I'd like to get an explanation as to why this happens, if anyone has one
Most likely it is because you're using a third party charger.
Or your electrical connection isn't stable and the current is fluctuating. Try your original charger at this place and that third party charger at your home to see if the issue persists.
NHS2008 said:
Most likely it is because you're using a third party charger.
Or your electrical connection isn't stable and the current is fluctuating. Try your original charger at this place and that third party charger at your home to see if the issue persists.
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It could be the electrical connection, thinking about it. It mainly happens in one room. The charger itself is something like an APlus from Amazon, it seems identical to the original DASH charger
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Most likely it is because you're using a third party charger.
Or your electrical connection isn't stable and the current is fluctuating. Try your original charger at this place and that third party charger at your home to see if the issue persists.
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It turns out it was neither of those things, it only affects me with my Sandstone case on the phone for some reason?
PokemonTotalWar said:
It turns out it was neither of those things, it only affects me with my Sandstone case on the phone for some reason?
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ohh..may be that case doesn't allow your charger cable to go in fully?
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ohh..may be that case doesn't allow your charger cable to go in fully?
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Doesn't seem to be an issue, no. All of these things have to be true for it to be an issue:
At my friend's house
Case on
Charging
If I remove any of these variables it works fine. I'm thoroughly confused
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Doesn't seem to be an issue, no. All of these things have to be true for it to be an issue:
At my friend's house
Case on
Charging
If I remove any of these variables it works fine. I'm thoroughly confused
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What ROM are you on ? Is it oreo? Have you updated your firmware ?
This has been known to cause issues with the fingerprint reader and the camera in the past..
If it's not that then I'd perhaps say it's the ROM, do you have any wave gestures or anything else active which could impact it ?
The charger, case or where you are should make no difference.
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What ROM are you on ? Is it oreo? Have you updated your firmware ?
This has been known to cause issues with the fingerprint reader and the camera in the past..
If it's not that then I'd perhaps say it's the ROM, do you have any wave gestures or anything else active which could impact it ?
The charger, case or where you are should make no difference.
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The ROM IS Oreo, and the FW is updated, but I had the problem all the way back to stock Nougat. I just now thought to ask about it because it's so strange that those are the conditions. I'm sitting on my couch right now with the charger plugged in and the case on and the FP is working fine, but the second I take it into my friend's house, I have to either not be charging it or remove the case. I thought maybe the case was causing EMI by bouncing the EM back, which is created because of my friend's wiring, but that feels far fetched. It's the only explanation I can think of, though
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The ROM IS Oreo, and the FW is updated, but I had the problem all the way back to stock Nougat. I just now thought to ask about it because it's so strange that those are the conditions. I'm sitting on my couch right now with the charger plugged in and the case on and the FP is working fine, but the second I take it into my friend's house, I have to either not be charging it or remove the case. I thought maybe the case was causing EMI by bouncing the EM back, which is created because of my friend's wiring, but that feels far fetched. It's the only explanation I can think of, though
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That's mad mate, I've no idea lol. Interference? No idea man, sorry.