I've been mulling this over, and here is where I'm at so far...
Can we develop a relatively easy / straight forward wireless charging mod for the LG G2, similar to what has been done for the Samsung Galaxy S3/4 and Note 2?
At first it doesn't seem that likely, as there's not much space behind the cover of the G2, and not being designed to be removable, is relatively hard to get off. Maybe not that hard though. Some looking around here at XDA shows several people who have removed their back covers to rough them up and get rid of the shiny plastic / tendency to collect fingerprints, so it seems taking it off / putting it back on without damaging the phone is quite possible.
The main thing then is finding a coil / receiver setup thin enough that it won't cause bulging or fitment issues, which may not be possible while retaining the "stock" back.
I suspect we may be able to get around this by using a "snap on" style hard case and some padding to maintain the over all look of the phone, effectively mounting the coil in the resulting gap where the back cover once was. This isn't my idea originally -- I've seen several people do this when using exceptionally thick aftermarket cases for the Galaxy S3, where they either removed the stock back of the phone entirely or built the Palm charging coil in to the back of the case The main issue with this sort of setup would be the area around the buttons / camera lens as it would have a space there and likely collect dust and dirt / be more likely to get damaged. If the stock back becomes available (like via ebay, say) relatively cheaply I could see some people buying a spare and modifying it relatively easy to cover this problem area, we're talking about a thin piece of plastic after all.
The only remaining issue would be getting the coil connected, then. I have yet to open the AT&T version or see a picture of one opened (all the pictures I've seen thus far have been the VZW version with the wireless charging built in) but as I understand the AT&T and T-Mobile versions likely don't include the pogo pins used to connect the charging coil for the VZW version, so we'd have to find somewhere else to connect, likely to the charging pins of the USB port as has been done for other wireless charging mods with earlier phones.
All in all this probably won't be a common mod (we're likely in solid "warranty voiding / can't easily be reversed" territory here) but I don't see any definite reason so far why it wouldn't be doable.
Would anyone else (ideally someone with more "involved" hardware modding experience -- I've just done the Palm Touchstone mod in a few Samsung GS3s) like to chime in here? Suggestions?
I love my G2 and I imagine ROM / community support is going to be great since the Nexus 5 is looking to be based off of it, but after only a week or so of ownership I'm really missing just setting the GS3 on the Touchstone at night, and while the USB port seems sturdy enough I don't like risking it every time I charge.
silent-circuit said:
I've been mulling this over, and here is where I'm at so far...
Can we develop a relatively easy / straight forward wireless charging mod for the LG G2, similar to what has been done for the Samsung Galaxy S3/4 and Note 2?
At first it doesn't seem that likely, as there's not much space behind the cover of the G2, and not being designed to be removable, is relatively hard to get off. Maybe not that hard though. Some looking around here at XDA shows several people who have removed their back covers to rough them up and get rid of the shiny plastic / tendency to collect fingerprints, so it seems taking it off / putting it back on without damaging the phone is quite possible.
The main thing then is finding a coil / receiver setup thin enough that it won't cause bulging or fitment issues, which may not be possible while retaining the "stock" back.
I suspect we may be able to get around this by using a "snap on" style hard case and some padding to maintain the over all look of the phone, effectively mounting the coil in the resulting gap where the back cover once was. This isn't my idea originally -- I've seen several people do this when using exceptionally thick aftermarket cases for the Galaxy S3, where they either removed the stock back of the phone entirely or built the Palm charging coil in to the back of the case The main issue with this sort of setup would be the area around the buttons / camera lens as it would have a space there and likely collect dust and dirt / be more likely to get damaged. If the stock back becomes available (like via ebay, say) relatively cheaply I could see some people buying a spare and modifying it relatively easy to cover this problem area, we're talking about a thin piece of plastic after all.
The only remaining issue would be getting the coil connected, then. I have yet to open the AT&T version or see a picture of one opened (all the pictures I've seen thus far have been the VZW version with the wireless charging built in) but as I understand the AT&T and T-Mobile versions likely don't include the pogo pins used to connect the charging coil for the VZW version, so we'd have to find somewhere else to connect, likely to the charging pins of the USB port as has been done for other wireless charging mods with earlier phones.
All in all this probably won't be a common mod (we're likely in solid "warranty voiding / can't easily be reversed" territory here) but I don't see any definite reason so far why it wouldn't be doable.
Would anyone else (ideally someone with more "involved" hardware modding experience -- I've just done the Palm Touchstone mod in a few Samsung GS3s) like to chime in here? Suggestions?
I love my G2 and I imagine ROM / community support is going to be great since the Nexus 5 is looking to be based off of it, but after only a week or so of ownership I'm really missing just setting the GS3 on the Touchstone at night, and while the USB port seems sturdy enough I don't like risking it every time I charge.
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I have an Optimus G Pro, but a family member got a G2 as a gift. I have Qi, but they don't (T-Mo version). I'd be interested in helping out; just not sure they'd let me open theirs up. Are you sure it lacks the pogo pins? And, additionally, for Qi, could the patch in the G Pro be potentially helpful?
I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more momentum...
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I have an Optimus G Pro, but a family member got a G2 as a gift. I have Qi, but they don't (T-Mo version). I'd be interested in helping out; just not sure they'd let me open theirs up. Are you sure it lacks the pogo pins? And, additionally, for Qi, could the patch in the G Pro be potentially helpful?
I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more momentum...
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You can compare the pins in these pictures. Notice the extra 2 contacts by the NFC contacts on the Verizon version.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/17/uhu5a3aj.jpg
http://www.dgl.ru/FileStorage/ARTIC...L_e1cdd890c4ca25f3b1783144918deb28_(8407).jpg
and people complain about android fragmentation.
Here we have the same LG G2 and you get wireless charging on one and not on the others. You have to buy the flip case for them based on your carrier. It's rather retarded if you ask me. They should all have the wireless charging.
Not just an LG thing either.
OP, to you answer your question, this isn't possible. I run an android parts shop and we have torn down a D801, D802 and a VS980. I have a D802 myself and wanted the wireless charging ability. My technician said it wasn't possible, the wireless charging module from the VS980 has no place to connect to on a D80x board.
:crying:
The best solution I think would be to solder the coil straight to the USB charging lines, but if that isn't possible I guess you could connect the coil to a USB plug and then just connect the plug on the USB port and leave it there all the time (you'd only need to remove it when you connect the phone to the PC). You would need to find a rather small USB head (ideally one with a 90 degree angle) so it doesn't get in the way.
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The best solution I think would be to solder the coil straight to the USB charging lines, but if that isn't possible I guess you could connect the coil to a USB plug and then just connect the plug on the USB port and leave it there all the time (you'd only need to remove it when you connect the phone to the PC). You would need to find a rather small USB head (ideally one with a 90 degree angle) so it doesn't get in the way.
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Agreed. Something like: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Type-A-Micro...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item51b4da088d
I actually did this recently to my Verizon Galaxy Nexus. I used a Note 2 Qi Receiver pad. I took my soldering iron and melted plastic casing away to expose 5V and GND where I soldered 2 beads for connection. I then fitted the Qi Pad over the beads and adjusted for a good connection. Added Double Sided tape and applied my Incipio Feather Case. When I removed the case, the double sided tape kept the Qi Pad on the case, where I permanently installed it.
I have the actual back plate cut in half to keep the camera whole sealed, but the battery and Qi pad is exposed. I basically built myself a Qi Charging Case. Remove the case and replace the back cover with a whole one, and it's gone.
Wireless Charging WAS a requirement for my next phone and luckily only the Verizon variant had it. I saw it as fate.
But conclusion is that just because the internal case doesn't have charging leads available, doesn't mean you can't make it happen. To pour salt in the wound, the Qi Charging works fantastic on the VZW model. I use it every day.
I really hope something comes up with this. I've got the ATT D800 and came from a Nokia Lumia 920 with Qi. I still have the Nokia charger and would LOVE to go back to it. I know some people say it's not important, but those are people who have not tried it yet.
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and people complain about android fragmentation.
Here we have the same LG G2 and you get wireless charging on one and not on the others. You have to buy the flip case for them based on your carrier. It's rather retarded if you ask me. They should all have the wireless charging.
Not just an LG thing either.
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If I have to choose between wireless charging and flawless GPS performance, I'll take the latter.
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nismology said:
If I have to choose between wireless charging and flawless GPS performance, I'll take the latter.
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My Lumia had flawless GPS and Wireless Charging. It can be done. I may break open my G2 and look around a bit...
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My Lumia had flawless GPS and Wireless Charging. It can be done. I may break open my G2 and look around a bit...
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My post was specific to the G2. There is obviously no causal link between wireless charging tech in general and spotty GPS reception but it seems to be the case here. Anecdotally, it somehow has an affect on the VZW model's ability to acquire and maintain a lock.
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My post was specific to the G2. There is obviously no causal link between wireless charging tech in general and spotty GPS reception but it seems to be the case here. Anecdotally, it somehow has an affect on the VZW model's ability to acquire and maintain a lock.
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I hadn't read that yet. Sounds like they put the charging coil too close to the GPS antenna.
I've just ordered one off eBay: http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=261329370615
They're reasonable cheap so I figured I'd try it out and see how it performs. Not going to solder as of now though
//M
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I have no problem with the GPS on Verizon... Acquire locks very fast as well.
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You can compare the pins in these pictures. Notice the extra 2 contacts by the NFC contacts on the Verizon version.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/17/uhu5a3aj.jpg
http://www.dgl.ru/FileStorage/ARTIC...L_e1cdd890c4ca25f3b1783144918deb28_(8407).jpg
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My question, though, is what the circuits look like on the back side of the board. It might still have the wiring, just no holes/connector
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My question, though, is what the circuits look like on the back side of the board. It might still have the wiring, just no holes/connector
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I can't speak definitively, but from my experience the traces for those connections are on the same side as they're surface mounted.
I suppose not possible then....?
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I suppose not possible then....?
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HI8JYFE
I have one now, but I haven't gotten in the charging pad to test it, yet.
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eagerly awaiting this
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I modified my Galaxy Note to use inductive charging via a palm touchstone / patch.
Just a quick note. Not a whole lot to contribute here, because I largely followed the examples of the Qian Qi. That guy is awesome.
I don't think I voided a warranty, either. Only minimal teardown required (black plastic back, then the speaker section). Never came across a sticker I had to remove....
Useful links:
galaxy s inductive charging mod
evo 4g induction charging mod
galaxy note teardown video
galaxy note teardown pics
Notes:
- Buy a good soldering iron. Weller WESD51, set to 610 deg F, with 1/32" long conical tip, with lots of flux and lots of flux remover are the only reason I could do this. I can't stress enough the value of having good temperature control, knowledge of temperature, and so forth. I stumbled around with an "ordinary" soldering iron for a long time, and in hindsite, I can't believe I did so.
- Do not choke on the price. I already had a lot of soldering gear, and I bought $220 more. Spend the money. It's worth it.
- Watch the curious inventor youtube videos on soldering. This guy. Watch everything, several times. http://store.curiousinventor.com/
- You want 30 gauge wire. It's the only thing that just barely can be crammed in. I used the "Kynar" coated type. Buy at least 2 colors.
- as you look at the phone disassembled, with speaker on the bottom left, the +5 pin on the micro usb (MHL) port is the leftmost. I attached a wire to that, and a ground wire to the housing where the port was soldered.
- routed the wires under the speaker, then back, then into a VERY slight indentation into the battery compartment. used a blue "safe open" tool to help shape the wire / crimp ends. Once in the battery compartment, you're golden. Attach the inductive charging coil to the back of the samsung plastic back, add solder to the pads, and attach the wires.
- Attached is a picture with roughly how I routed wires. Red is +5V, Blue is ground. Be sure and double check if my recollection is right where the indentation is into the battery compartment. (that part is by memory).
- dont leave too much slack. it's really hard to get the samsung black pastic panel back on. Mine very slightly bulges.
- be careful where you put the charging sticky patch, because this phone is a little bit bigger than a palm pre. You have to consider if the phone can sit on the charger and "lock in" with the magnets. If you place it too high, it actually can't (in portrait)!
- Qian Qi had a really interesting point: most articles about how Li-ion batteries behave are wrong, and fully discharging the battery drastically reduces the number of cycles you have. So this is actually a very useful mod--whenever you don't use the phone, toss it on the charger.
Thanks for summing it up! Was actually thinking of doing this mod myself. Question: do you have a protective case on your Note? If so - what kind and how badly does it affect the magnetic properties?
No case. Especially because the note is so big, I think it would be unmanageable.
I took the samsung thin plastic back, and placed the Palm PRE (with charging coil still attached) on top of it, on the touchstone -- to figure out proper placement & mark with a pencil. I noticed a buzzing sound, coming from (I think) the induction coil on the palm pre back itself. I suspect if you use a case, this wont work well.
Also, the size/weight/placement of the galaxy note are such that the magnets are just barely strong enough to hold it. One time my phone was near, but off, the charger. I'm not sure if vibration from the phone did that, or my kids
In summary, I'm not sure how well it would work with a case. You might be able to research this on the net; among the 15 or 20 people that have bought a Pre, you might be able to find some info about the effect of a case on inductive charging.
tight squeeze?
im wanting to try this mod i have my touchstone on the way not thank you amazon but it seems like to me that the pad from the pre wouldnt fit under the cover of our phablet =/ could you post pics of the finished product and i think this is the only instance that i have seen someone attempt this with the note and i want to try it i love my note but would love it even more with inductive charging.
I am not the original author but I performed a different Touchstone mod and posted pics here:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...1-galaxy-note-touchstone-mod-photo-heavy.html
Hope it helps!
-darren
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Thank you!!!
Thank you so much for your post I have my materials on the way but I hadn't seen a detailed guide for the note other than this one and was worried I would have to solder directly to the usb pins which looked scary lol I did have two questions though would your mod work the same way for the at&t note? Specifically the points where you soldered to the phone and can wireless charging be performed through a case?
Hey, OP here. You may want to hold off just a bit. Mine is exhibiting some issues now. As in, it says "charging" but it doesn't do so wirelessly. The phone will stay "charging" but the battery % never goes up. (It was slow before, but would charge fully over a night).
Charging via USB still works.
It may be something simple; I'm not sure. But I need to crack it open and take a peek, and I haven't had time to do that yet because my phone is functional at the moment.
If nothing has conspicuously changed, there may be something about the design that isn't sustainable. Or maybe my solder joint halfway broke, or one of the wires got smashed enough so that it's partially broken...
I'll write back with my findings. Bug me if I don't
Thanks for the notice I was about to pull the trigger lol tbh I probably shouldn't attempt this I've never done a mod like this before and I'm not exactly a surgeon with a soldering iron lolvthatvbeing being said I'm going to attempt this on an old evo 4g I have before I do surgery on my baby lol plus I'm already familiar with the guts of an evo from screen repairs ill report back with my results
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Success it took some doing but I got it I haven't done the mod on my note yet but I did it on my evo last night and it works its rough I haven't cleaned it up yet but I'll post the pics I got this mod from www.goodandevo.net
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Thank you for this post.
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No prob I just wanted to see if i could do it and if I can do it with little soldering experience I'm sure most could do it I haven't done this mod to my galaxy note though as there is way less room in its a far more complicated mod than the evo because you have to make room for wires in a device samsung made as thin as possible and the way you have to route the wires I feel like the solder joints would just break
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For those who want to try this out but still have warrantee just buy a backcover, a micro usb plug and assemble it according to the directions here.If you need the note just take out the usb plug and the back cover and you're good to go.... Or leave it there.....
For those who don't know what pins to use on the usb plug:
Pin: 1 is 5V+ (red)
Pin: 5 is GND (black)
Works like a charm.......
becosemsaida
Cool mod! Does it affect the stylus operation though?
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Cool mod! Does it affect the stylus operation though?
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yes it affects the stylus sometimes it reacts with delay and sometimes it clicks although only hovers over it
pboesboes said:
Cool mod! Does it affect the stylus operation though?
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I was not a big stylus user; I can't stand the input lag. I didn't notice a difference, but I always considered the input speed unacceptable. Not sure why there would be any difference, anyway.
My big problem that I've never taken the time to address is that after some time, it's as though I can't pull enough current through the wires to charge. One day I need to crack this open & figure out why.
gr8 n interesting post
wonder how fast can a full charge be completed
regards
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gr8 n interesting post
wonder how fast can a full charge be completed
regards
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It is slower than normal, but completed in a night. I still have not dismantled my phone to attempt to repair this, but I want to soon
Hi all does the note 2 support inductive charging or do you have to replace the back? Its just I notice there is something in the back cover and i hear this is NFC for payments I was just wondering if it was also capable of inductive charging out of the box or if it has to be adapted in some way.
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Well it has the wireless chargimg tabs under the back cover like the s3 so im going to say yes
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If it does support this, I wonder why Samsung hasn't mentioned it in their presentations or included it within the official specs? Hope it is possible though.
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If it does support this, I wonder why Samsung hasn't mentioned it in their presentations or included it within the official specs? Hope it is possible though.
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im going to guess that there having troubles as the s3 wireless kit was supposed to be september and is as of yet a no show
I bet a palm pre inductive coil will fit under the battery cover :thumbup:
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Soo... here is a picture of the back... and yeah... i also think they have at least integrated the connectors for wireless charging into my note 2 xD
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Out of the box it does not support wireless charging. I suspect it could be modified to use a Palm inductive charger though. I've been messing with my Note 2 and a Palm Pre inductive charger for the last half hour or so. The PCB of the Pre back cover fits into the little groove next to the micro SD slot (I had to cut a small part of the PCB off - see the red circle in the last image) and the coil/magnet cluster fits very easily between the back cover and the battery. Visually/tactilely it's pretty much impossible to detect when they've been put in there.
Unfortunately, I've never modded a device to use inductive charging before so I'm a little hesitant to proceed.
wow... that looks very good ...
Hmmm but without a technical background I would not risk that... you have at least to measure all that stuff ...
(sorry for being no help)...
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Hirudin said:
Out of the box it does not support wireless charging. I suspect it could be modified to use a Palm inductive charger though. I've been messing with my Note 2 and a Palm Pre inductive charger for the last half hour or so. The PCB of the Pre back cover fits into the little groove next to the micro SD slot (I had to cut a small part of the PCB off - see the red circle in the last image) and the coil/magnet cluster fits very easily between the back cover and the battery. Visually/tactilely it's pretty much impossible to detect when they've been put in there.
Unfortunately, I've never modded a device to use inductive charging before so I'm a little hesitant to proceed.
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i would rather not to do it, i think note 2 is the ame as Galaxy s3, they have the capability you just need to wait for the battery cover replacement sold. or you can take buy one fro S3 and rip out whatever in that back cover (coil) put it in your note 2 back cover. http://www.androidauthority.com/wir...samsung-galaxy-s3-hits-verizon-stores-105433/
Its all just my theory though.... for me better just wait rather risking my gorgeous note 2 which is note yet in my hand right now....
Hello guys,
Former Palmer/webOS user here. Actually, toying with the inductive back of Palm Pre & Touchstone charger, is not that risky nor difficult, not at all. I've tested it as a kind of proof of concept, with my SGS 2 - just put the coils/PCB assembly at the back of phone cover, and soldered two wires to the coils's output contacts. These two wires, I just ran to the micro USB plug. When I've connected that plug to the phone's micro USB port and put the phone on the Touchstone charger, it starts charging - that's all. Coil's integrated PCB sorts out things like converting AC/induction back to DC, 5V etc. What you are getting out of it, is your pure, standard, USB-compatible juice.
The only reason why I wasn't using it permanently, was that I didn't wan't to solder anything on my SGS 2's PCB (didn't feel like it is a smart idea, with it's tiny tracks and my soldering skills - or rather the lack of thereof). And having micro USB plug stuck in phone's bottom all the time, didn't appeal to me, somehow
But if the SGS3/Note2 already had the required contacts behind it's back cover, it will be a breeze DIY project. And one damn handy and cool-loking charger on your desk, believe me.
I'll try to post some photos of my POC setup later on.
Best regards!
Search first....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951493
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I purchased a couple of kits - one was just the inductive charging module for the phone, which I installed and separately picked up a couple of charging bases; the other one was a complete kit.
This kit (not by this seller, but the photo is the same as the kit I purchased) is very elegant, thin, and easy to install. You can barely see the bulge in the back of the case. The only problem I have is that the magnets seem to be slightly too weak so the position is a bit inexact. I've added a couple of extra magnets but will end up replacing the originals with my slightly-stronger replacements in the end I suspect. Overall this kit, although expensive on Ebay does the job and looks good.
This charging module was easy to install but the one I received had the polarity of the charging pins reversed so I had to make a modification to get it working. Here is a post of my preliminary mod to get it working; since that post I've done some clean-up but the one linked above thinner so I'm using it as my primary right now.
Maybe this help!!!
dhgate.c o m
Any one know is this base will work
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-TOUCHSTO...ocking_Stations_Keyboards&hash=item43b759a9c9
or does it have to be the other?
raiu said:
Any one know is this base will work
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-TOUCHSTO...ocking_Stations_Keyboards&hash=item43b759a9c9
or does it have to be the other?
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It will work but that's too expensive.
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So I read that this device has wireless charging but I can't find an instance of the problem I'm having. Is there something special you have to enable to get it to charge with a qi pad? Neither the nexus orb nor my og lg pad will charge it. I thought the protective plastic might have caused this but even after peeling it back I don't get a charging indicator. Seems my nexus luck follows me wherever. I got one with a nice display and no physical defects seemingly on the first try. Am I doing something wrong here?
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So I read that this device has wireless charging but I can't find an instance of the problem I'm having. Is there something special you have to enable to get it to charge with a qi pad? Neither the nexus orb nor my og lg pad will charge it. I thought the protective plastic might have caused this but even after peeling it back I don't get a charging indicator. Seems my nexus luck follows me wherever. I got one with a nice display and no physical defects seemingly on the first try. Am I doing something wrong here?
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Mine charged wirelessly right away, there was nothing I had to manually enable. I tried it on 2 different LG WCP-700 Qi chargers.
Mine had the same issue, and it was the connectors for the coil on the inside. if you feel like opening the case you can try to clean them. that worked for me or just exchange the unit.
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Mine had the same issue, and it was the connectors for the coil on the inside. if you feel like opening the case you can try to clean them. that worked for me or just exchange the unit.
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Mine was working and now it isn't as well.
I would check the back and see if it feels like you have space. in the case.
Mine seems to be charging fine on my Nexus 4 Orb.
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Mine had the same issue, and it was the connectors for the coil on the inside. if you feel like opening the case you can try to clean them. that worked for me or just exchange the unit.
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Can you tell us what tools you used to open the device? I'm guessing suction cups, perhaps from iFixIt? Or did you go the spudger route?
As for cleaning the coils, are you referring to the 2 or 4 gold pressure contacts that are present on the back of the casing once the device is opened/separated?
Not to sound like a ****, OP, but a little searching would have shown you this thread, about the same issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2379718
I used a thin guitar pick and started at the bottom of the Screen next to the USB charging port and slowly opened it to the left side of the screen, ( the Side that does not have any buttons) and slowly went up the screen to the top and keep going till I was able to separate the the device from the back unit. But I caution you to be careful as you can easily break the case as IFixit mentions in.
the 4 connector are the ones, that I am referring to, mine device looked like they were not clean. I cleaned them up and after putting together again the wireless charging works.
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I used a thin guitar pick and started at the bottom of the Screen next to the USB charging port and slowly opened it to the left side of the screen, ( the Side that does not have any buttons) and slowly went up the screen to the top and keep going till I was able to separate the the device from the back unit. But I caution you to be careful as you can easily break the case as IFixit mentions in.
the 4 connector are the ones, that I am referring to, mine device looked like they were not clean. I cleaned them up and after putting together again the wireless charging works.
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Yes same problem with mine. Qi Charging did not work and neither did the NFC, although it did on the first day. Opened it up and cleaned off the gunk off the four contacts and Qi and NFC started working again.
Thanks for the advice... Everywhere was sold out near me. After a 55 mile drive to best buy I exchanged it... Way better than waiting on play store agony. This replacement seems better. Screen so far is the same nice quality and everything actually works. Wireless charging is fine. Good to know that this is easy to take apart. My problem though with opening the device is that I tend to get creaks etc afterward. I did search prior BTW... I guess I didn't look hard enough
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I wonder about those units where people have not tried Qi Charging or NFC and how rampant a problem this is.
just bought myself a G2, loving it so far.. (this is actually my 2nd since the first rebooted like crazy)
but wondered if it is possible to buy a VZW QI battery cover to get the QI option?.. love wireless charging...
The VZW G2 comes with Qi compatibility out of the box. You should be able to just get a charger and use it with the phone as is. Besides, the battery cover is nonremovable.
He has a D802, not the Verizon model.
as to the question, I have no idea.
Without some minor surgery and a bit of creative wiring, it ain't gonna happen...if at all...
There's a reason the VS890 has the unique narrow buttons... The coil contacts daughter board encroaches on the space occupied by the normal buttons...
cggorman said:
Without some minor surgery and a bit of creative wiring, it ain't gonna happen...if at all...
There's a reason the VS890 has the unique narrow buttons... The coil contacts daughter board encroaches on the space occupied by the normal buttons...
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darn it!! i really really wanted QI charging.. so the only way for me to get QI charging is to actually get a hold of a VZW and cannibalize it or use it if it is at all possible in norway..
wonder if the 802 got the contacts for qi charging though? maybe an aftermarket solution will come? probably not..
The Korean variant has an SD slot in the space where VZW has the contact board. Seems like I saw some internal pics of the T-Mo, but I can't remember where and didn't turn them up with a Google search.
d802
This is the d802 there are only 2 contakts on the verizon there are 4.
Guys I want to just make you all aware if you have any of those unofficial magnetic charging cables please be very wary of using them.
I noticed over the course of a week the phone would be sat on the desk and and I had a cable charging through the magnetic port but it would stop charging.
I **** you not the cable literally pulled out the charging port directly away from the phone. Now luckily the port has to 'fin' pins (only glued in by the looks of it) and I was able to push them back in and it would charge...however it certainly was not dust and waterproof anymore!!!
Any way I took it back to Carphone warehouse (told them i was using the DK36 official charger..do not tell them you use a third party one) and they sent it away for repair. I have been told today that they are just swapping it out for a new one which should be back with me next week.
WORD OF WARNING...IM NEVER USING AN UNOFFICIAL CABLE EVER AGAIN!
has this happened to any of you before? I purchased the one that is available from mobilefun.co.uk but I advise you not too as either the port is weak or the magnet on the cable is too strong (it did not feel that way though!!!).
Lets hope it does not happen again! this is the third Z2 I have had now with the new one I get. FML.
It might be the fault of the phone. I have an aftermarket magnetic cable and it works fine! I have had the cable for about 7 months.
your not the first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2770301
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It might be the fault of the phone. I have an aftermarket magnetic cable and it works fine! I have had the cable for about 7 months.
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Yes maybe. When the thing came out still attached to the cable (heart in mouth!) I noticed there was very little bonding (glue) on the rear of the charging point.
Still Sony have been very very lax in the quality control department, the amount of snags people are having is unreal. Like I said I'm onto the third now, such a shame because I actually love the device, my favourite phone of late, I have the M8, Z1 and got rid of the S5 (hated) but the Z2 is my fav!
Mine also came out this morning, I dont think they have been glued in they just slide into their slots.
Well there was defo glue or some sort of bonding agent on the rear face of mine...just not much!
I'm no phone designer but surely they should have manufactured the port with a lip to prevent it it from being pulled out!?!?
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I have no idea what you talking about.. can you provide your talking with some pictures showing the problem
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Well there was defo glue or some sort of bonding agent on the rear face of mine...just not much!
I'm no phone designer but surely they should have manufactured the port with a lip to prevent it it from being pulled out!?!?
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That's what I would have assumed too, but looking at my Z2's magnetic port, it does look like it's just made to the same size as the hole on the outside!
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That's what I would have assumed too, but looking at my Z2's magnetic port, it does look like it's just made to the same size as the hole on the outside!
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Yep...it literally slots in and out. Awesome feature for when your glue fails on the rear of the port..NOT.
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Just got my replacement from car phone warehouse yesterday. All seems to be in order...no gaps, dodgy drill holes, loose connectors, crap finishing etc...
Time will tell if I have received a good one this time.
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Has your phone experienced any extreme heat, I'm thinking why the glue failed.
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Has your phone experienced any extreme heat, I'm thinking why the glue failed.
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I wouldn't say so. Nothing over normal temps.
I would say that the amount of bond used was miniscule like a circle in the middle of the charging point. Not enough in my opinion as the surface area it covered was too small.
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I see this appears to be common. How bad is this? I am about to get a Z2 with OEM dock but if this is a common thing perhaps I'll reconsider.
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I see this appears to be common. How bad is this? I am about to get a Z2 with OEM dock but if this is a common thing perhaps I'll reconsider.
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I have been using magnetic charger for two months now. So far it's still intact.
Same here, used magnetic charger seens I bought my Z2 (about 2 month ago) and it works great. Don't have stock desktop charger, bought an adapter cable.
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I'm thinking about buying a magnetic charger, but I'm curious as to how people are disconnecting theirs to cause this issue.
My thoughts on it are if you pull it out horizontally, you are obviously putting strain on it by just pulling it off/out. I would have thought the best way to disconnect would be to basically "peel" it off, so that the magnet disconnects at a 90 degree angle. This would then not put any strain on the glue or whatever is used.
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I have read a few reviews on some different mag cables and a lot of the aftermarket ones tout how strong the magnetic connection is compared to stock. Maybe the OEM cable was not too strong by design. Also wondering what kind of glue it is holding the port in. I just got my Z2 and I like it a lot so far. The mag cable looks like a great convenience which I'll be buying as soon as I decide I'm definitely keeping the phone (I'm commitment-challenged). Got my phone from B&H Photo and it says they are an authorized Sony dealer, but they are on the other side of the US so I really don't wanna have to ship my phone across country and then wait if I have an issue.
Right, well I have the Sony magnetic charger, I sent it back to sony as I thought it was to blame, it was working then stopped.
However when it was returned to me, I went to use it, the charge started and then stopped, so I thought it was the magnetic dock again, took the phone off the magnetic dock and these was a hole where the docking pins should be . Turns out they were on the magnetic dock! come out completely, so put the charger point bar back in the phone, reconnected and yes it charged but again, when I came to undock, phones charger area left on the dock. So it happens with the OEM dock as well.
Looks like a fight with Vodafone to get the phone repaired.
Yet another...
I have the official Sony Dock, so I can rule out it being 'just' due to the after-market docks. I had noticed before I even started using the magnetic dock that the connector was a bit mobile/loose. So much so that, whilst on holiday and shooting around water, I held my thumb over the connector. When, a couple of weeks later, I started to charge through the port, I noticed that it was making connect/disconnect noises as I was putting it onto the dock. I also noticed that it charged more slowly than via the USB port. Eventually (about a week after having read of the problem on these forums), the connector did stay on the charger, when the phone was removed. I have pushed it back in, but it just drops down, when on the charger, disconnecting from the phone. I am quite sure that it is no longer watertight, as there is a thin layer of quite 'spongy' adhesive tape on the back of the separated connector that is no longer adhesive and you can see quite well into the phone, through the connector holes. I believe that it is repairable (and the watertightness restorable) at little cost, given a competent person, who could strip the adhesive and replace it with something similar, but stronger AND put some strong adhesive around the outside of it, before pushing it back in. It's a shame that something so small is affecting so many people's opinion of Sony and marring an, otherwise, very good phone.
I will be attempting to return mine to the UK operator 'Three', this weekend and, if they are unwilling or unable to help, I will be taking to Twitter and other Social Media sites, to raise the profile to a wider audience... Sony are already doing relatively poorly in the mobile phone marketplace (for a company of their size) and they can sweep this under the carpet and try to ignore it, losing a small number of their 'fans', or they can make a big PR exercise. Any decent company would see this as a marketing opportunity - make direct contact with your customers and win their trust, by fixing a problem. It's their choice - act big or act small...