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What is happening here is 100% OUTRAGE !
HTC is pathetic in releasing stocks and in my opinion lead extremely unprofessional behavior in handling new products.
Just when I thought Apple finally had a rival...
Releasing a phone that you can't buy...
CANCEL the silly Desire HD because no one is going to get one until XMAS so it seems.
Its annoying sure, but its not like they have started kitten stomping...
Calm down man.
It happens with a lot of products like this. Demand can be hard to determine. The PC industry works in a similar fashion, with stock being available, and then more coming in due time.
There is no need to call them unprofessional just because of a stock shortage every so often. I seem to recall when the iPhone 3GS came out, it was almost impossible to get one for a time because of a lack of stock...
How dare they release a product that's popular and suffer due to that! Those bastards!
Are you insane? It's a phone, wait it out or go elsewhere. It isn't the first time a supplier has had trouble keeping up with demand and it won't be the last. Look what happened with the Wii when it first came out, they were going for 2 - 3 times the normal price due to demand and shortages.
I guess i was lucky. Ordered mine last friday and recieved it on monday morning.
Silencer23 said:
What is happening here is 100% OUTRAGE !
HTC is pathetic in releasing stocks and in my opinion lead extremely unprofessional behavior in handling new products.
Just when I thought Apple finally had a rival...
Releasing a phone that you can't buy...
CANCEL the silly Desire HD because no one is going to get one until XMAS so it seems.
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got mine for 2 weeks now, i have waited for 2 weeks on my dhd as an upgrade from vodafone. i told them if i can't have the item before my patience run out i'll be cancelling my upgrade and going somewhere..... voila!!! and now i am playing with it too bad, i have no idea that the battery life on this one is far worst than my old phone and no custom RUU yet unlike my old touch pro 2. aside from that it's perfect.
i was also told by tmobile that there would be no stock until xmas time, so i asked about one of thier stores and they said that was ok. luckly my local store had 1 left so i grabbed it.
they also told me they are selling these machines like hot cakes, the funny part in my case was 3 people came in whilst i was doing the paper work asking for one.
imho its well worth the wait if you cant get one immediatly, the machine is tops.
With all due respect, this is why preordering is an option. What would you like them to do...delay the device another month to ensure there is more stock and please everyone in one hit or release it a month earlier and over that time ship the same number of units but allow some customers to get their hands on them earlier? Personally I think its better to have units in peoples hands rather than sitting in crates at a warehouse doing absolutely nothing for anyone. Certainly, you wouldn't get the device any sooner and theres no guarantee when the stock does ship that stock will be enough as they may not be able to gully estimate the markets demand.
It was pretty obvious stock would be tight at release so I preordered one. Needless to say, I've had mine for two weeks so people are getting them.
I too, was slightly upset from the delay. Mine wasn't on HTC's fault, but on the UK Sim-Free not passing on of Google's tests back in start of October. This was somewhat unavoidable, and although some places such as Amazon had moved the shipping date from start of october to mid-november, i was quite happy to pre-order mine on the 1st Oct to receive on the 1st November. I got a second shipment, which gave people before me time to start rooting the phone, making skins, and letting me enjoy my phone a bit more.
Within a week, HTC had brought out fixes for some of the bugs that was discovered.
Demand for the phone is pretty big, only proving that HTC is a major competitor of the iPhone, and I for one am ecstatic, seeing as I only heard of Android a year ago when the Hero was released, and no-one had heard of Android. Now it rules my life....
Some things are worth the wait, and this is one of those things
Go to a 3 store they have loads selling sim and unlocked £449 I know they have them cos I had to exchange my first one due to crashing problems.
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Im so disappointed right now because it looks like HTC are delaying the phone AGAIN! They were meant to ship some units (mine included) this week but it's been delayed again because of component problems.
LOL
I swear some people just makes threads so they can see their name keep popping up occasionally.
Do you also sit at the table slamming your fists down over this "outrage". You might live longer if you either pick a different phone or you know, calm down, take a breath and be patient.
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LOL
I swear some people just makes threads so they can see their name keep popping up occasionally.
Do you also sit at the table slamming your fists down over this "outrage". You might live longer if you either pick a different phone or you know, calm down, take a breath and be patient.
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My thoughts entirely. How do these people get through their normal life? Waiting for a bus must make them ill.
Anyone knows when our beloved N4 will be available again? Any official statement besides it is sold out? Surely I am not the only did not put my order through :crying:
rumor round up, Nov 15
1, some suggest to check in on Friday, confirmed by google + and some T Mo stores
2, google backorder mail suggests to give your F5 a 3-week vacation
3, email from google support says "soon" but do not know how soon
Nov 16
1, For those who want to order from Negri (http://negrielectronics.com/lg-e960-nexus-4-16gb-unlocked-black.html#.UKYW7IdQS3E), there is a coupon code you can use: 10offsite will take $10 off. Cheers!
2, reported by some threads: today several lucky ones were told that their phones are on the way as we speak, after receiving BO mail yesterday.
3, no word on when it will be available again for the rest of us...keep waiting
4, got a word from google support that the N4 will be in stock and the price will NOT be changed. This is to respond to some rumors saying play store will not sell it for a while, so the local electronic stores (not ebay) in different countries can gain some, because some will be forced to pay higher price. Certainly hope google keeps the promise to sell us N4 soon.
5, rumor has it that India will receive N4 on Nov 30. This might suggest when the 2nd wave comes!
Nov 18
New rumor: the 2nd batch comes in a few days!
Note again, it is just a rumor from a blog: Nexus 4…weeks away? “Days” according to Play Support
No one knows. Hell, we didn't even know when the thing went on sale yesterday. It was just a feeding frenzy!
No
No.
Edit: I managed to order a 16gb 1 minute after it became available here, but I really feel bad for you, man. On the bright side, early adopters are gonna get screwed with a lot of issues. Sorry, man. Hopefully it becomes available soon.
google play store plays us
maybe then we can just decide to sleep when we are tired and not to refresh the website any chance we get.
is this the official statement from google?
from google+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Nexus/posts/Bxd3fySCe28
"in coming weeks"
freeintruth said:
from google+: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Nexus/posts/Bxd3fySCe28
"in coming weeks"
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I refuse to believe this.
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I refuse to believe this.
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Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
Quite possible if you think, that industry is currently scrambling to produce enough stock for Christmas and will be mostly idling afterwards. So google could use it to produce more N4s.
I just hope there will be plenty of stock eventually instead of all this selling out nonsense.
I was online and had the opportunity to buy the 8GB version but i was confused, i looked at the 16GB version and still said "Coming Soon" so i thought it hadn't gone on sale yet, little did i realise it had already been and gone :laugh:
So while i was waiting the 8GB version sold out too, gutted.
Might be reading too much into the Google+ Post but:
There’s been so much interest for the Nexus lineup that we’ve sold out of some of our initial stock in a few countries!
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draugaz said:
Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
Quite possible if you think, that industry is currently scrambling to produce enough stock for Christmas and will be mostly idling afterwards. So google could use it to produce more N4s.
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I feel like Google would probably rather have it come out before the holidays than after lol...
I'll bet next restock will be either this month or next.
Probably somewhere near the end of December I think
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Why?
We have just some 4-5 weeks to go until the end of the year, so "in coming weeks" could easily mean "mid/end January".
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If they sell the second batch in mid-january, this means making everyone wait 2 months.
2 months is a lot, especially if you have no guarantee that in 2 months' time stocks will be enough for everybody.
The problem with phones is that they age very quickly, and the sooner people get them, the more they are likely to keep them.
I, to conclude, really hope that we will see a second sale next week. Even if stock is going to be, if possible, even lower, it doesn't matter: angry people will stay angry, but we will have some more "lucky ones" which will have a new phone.
But this is just my opinion.
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Probably somewhere near the end of December I think
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NGF Community :good:
Found you here as well..Whats up man
I've heard everything from them coming out this Thursday/Friday, all the way up to in one more month.
Spoke to a CSR today and they -of course- cant give out any days because they don't even know. "Being a guesser" the CSR said, "i would guess that it [a new batch of Nexus 4's] could come out the 21 to the 23 of the month ,that way they would be ready for Black Friday" he kept going, "but then again, it could take them until December, that's just my opinion. It all depends what the marketing team wants to do."
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If they sell the second batch in mid-january, this means making everyone wait 2 months.
2 months is a lot, especially if you have no guarantee that in 2 months' time stocks will be enough for everybody.
The problem with phones is that they age very quickly, and the sooner people get them, the more they are likely to keep them.
I, to conclude, really hope that we will see a second sale next week. Even if stock is going to be, if possible, even lower, it doesn't matter: angry people will stay angry, but we will have some more "lucky ones" which will have a new phone.
But this is just my opinion.
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We get anywhere near mid-end of Jan and im passing, you've nailed it with the "tech moves too fast".
No way this will be the best hardware on the market at that point, only selling point is its a Nexus, which despite me being a fan wont swey my decision.
Stret
I just want ask to google, why the hell are so many Nexus 4 being sold on ebay, if i can't buy one in playstore?????
I unfortunately missed being able to buy N4
I imagine Google will have more stock in before Christmas, or they would lose out on quite a bit of $$.
I've heard they are supposed to have more in by Friday 8am (GMT)(or midnight PST) however cannot confirm this.
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A fortnight at least
I am sure they have to do before international launch which is I guess is 29th or 30th by LG.
From what I understand it will be available Dec 13th.
This is what the chat rep said when I just asked her when it'll be available on VZW
EDIT: asked her about pre-orders too and she said she is unsure, but to check on Thursday cause that's when they expect it.
I spoke with a rep also at Costco about 4 days ago and he said they expect to see them in a week or so
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From what I understand it will be available Dec 13th.
This is what the chat rep said when I just asked her when it'll be available on VZW
EDIT: asked her about pre-orders too and she said she is unsure, but to check on Thursday cause that's when they expect it.
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The 13th is a Saturday not Thursday. Chat reps are extremely unreliable sources. Seems unlikely they'd launch a device on a Saturday anyway.
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The 13th is a Saturday not Thursday. Chat reps are extremely unreliable sources. Seems unlikely they'd launch a device on a Saturday anyway.
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That's what I said too, initially.
Skeptical, I asked her why this is. She said the phone is in such high demand that they haven't been able to get stock ready to release it both in-store and online (which is another reason she said they may or may not do pre-orders.) FWIW, I would take it with a grain of salt, but this is a lot better than the response I got last week with them saying it isn't in their system so they do not know/have any idea.
VZW has done it in the past, but just confirming what was said by the redditor.
EDIT: for that reason, I will be watching Wednesday night and Friday morning of next week.
I'm still sporting a December 15th, 2011, Galaxy Nexus from a local corporate store, no repairs or replacements, and it was unlocked and rooted on day one. It's got a few problems, but still works everyday. I'm just wondering what VZW is up to with the Nexus 6 at this point. Is this just another "additional testing" delay, a supply and demand delay, a device QC delay, or all of the above? Or maybe something worse like additional "lock down" software changes? Yes, I know there's only one US model, and yes I know about the carrier software install at setup and how to avoid it (I've read just about everything I can find), but I just don't trust VZW at this point. This GNex still works because of the work done by ME, not because of VZW support of a hobbled Nexus device.
At this point all we can do is speculate until the Nexus 6 finally shows up at Verizon. Could be all of those things you mentioned. Could be they wanted to give the Droid Turbo less competition, or it could be none of those things. Time will tell.
Just crossing my fingers that they'll have the 64GB version available.
Our moto rep just said not to expect them until quarter 1, maybe February. I'm hoping he's wrong...
As stated anything is pure speculation, but if that was the case VZW would have a weird timeline with phones in their history. Historically, they have always gotten devices close to last. I think they were one of the last carriers to have the iPhone, but I don't think that dealt with stock/holding off because they wanted to push their other phones. There was an article about the iPhone and how most carriers lose money with the subsidized price on the actual device, but make more than enough back by the contract. All phone companies are about signing contracts, as that is where they make the most of their money. If you cancel your phone, there are not too many external costs associated with that, but they want to ensure that they get their moneys worth for losing that device/the profit from your remainder of your contract. Holding off on devices actually just hurts them in the long-run, as more devices = more appeal to more demographics = more contract sign-ups, but I think it deals more with contractual agreements, like securing the phone, branding the phone, etc most of the time, but I feel like this might just deal with the low stock. This thing is practically sold out everywhere and hard to find.
Just visited the local verizon store and they said Nexus 6 will be available in the next week or so.
Pic or it never happened...
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I'm still sporting a December 15th, 2011, Galaxy Nexus from a local corporate store, no repairs or replacements, and it was unlocked and rooted on day one. It's got a few problems, but still works everyday. I'm just wondering what VZW is up to with the Nexus 6 at this point. Is this just another "additional testing" delay, a supply and demand delay, a device QC delay, or all of the above? Or maybe something worse like additional "lock down" software changes? Yes, I know there's only one US model, and yes I know about the carrier software install at setup and how to avoid it (I've read just about everything I can find), but I just don't trust VZW at this point. This GNex still works because of the work done by ME, not because of VZW support of a hobbled Nexus device.
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I'm rocking my GNex as well, no issues, on shiny KK, and awaiting a new FML build to jump to 5.0 or 5.0.1 as the case may be.
The fun part is waiting, and reading, because even IF I left it encrypted - I'm coming from a GNex, I don't think I'be able to tell that it may be lagging a bit
(But I'm unlocking, rooting and reflashing that bugger for no encryption anyways .... depending on how VZ does or doesn't screw us again)
We just trimmed my wife's GN sim for her new N6. She wasn't happy with her GN, too many issues (poor reception, etc), and way overdue for an upgrade.
Asus, you had me at "Intel Atom", but lost me when you didn't bring it to US sooner
You had your chance, I went a whole month 6 weeks without a phone because the Zenfone 2 was announced as launching March 9th, and it did, in Taiwan. My Galaxy Nexus broke in mid February and I've been holding out without a phone until the Asus Zenfone 2 came to the US. Aside from a couple Amazon sales of the 2GB/16GB unit, there has been no concrete information about the US release at all, just one or two websites claiming "spring". I had my eyes set on the 4GB 5.5" 64GB, top of the line model that was announced.
Now here we are, April 9th, and the S6 Edge is out tomorrow for T-Mobile, and still no word. Looks like Samsung earned my purchase this time.
Lol, you could have did what everyone else has been doing, import off of eBay. I've already had and sold one.
Dat markup though
Don't whine about the markup. That's basic supply and demand. If you were waiting as long as you say, then you had the opportunity to order it off eBay as soon as it became available when it was only like $350 shipped, which wasn't that much of a markup. I only payed $375. You'll pay a whole lot more for the S6 Edge in the long run lol.
Great replies Bl00d!
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Don't whine about the markup. That's basic supply and demand. If you were waiting as long as you say, then you had the opportunity to order it off eBay as soon as it became available when it was only like $350 shipped, which wasn't that much of a markup. I only payed $375. You'll pay a whole lot more for the S6 Edge in the long run lol.
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Exactly, and shots fired lol!:laugh: Sure, the long awaited release of this phone was shaky with the availability, official global prices and a rough first run-through with software issues like any other early release. But most of us who chose the Zf2 over the S6/Edge or M9 knew we're getting a better overall deal for a decent quality midranger device, which will get better over time when the dust settles.
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You had your chance, I went a whole month 6 weeks without a phone because the Zenfone 2 was announced as launching March 9th, and it did, in Taiwan. My Galaxy Nexus broke in mid February and I've been holding out without a phone until the Asus Zenfone 2 came to the US. Aside from a couple Amazon sales of the 2GB/16GB unit, there has been no concrete information about the US release at all, just one or two websites claiming "spring". I had my eyes set on the 4GB 5.5" 64GB, top of the line model that was announced.
Now here we are, April 9th, and the S6 Edge is out tomorrow for T-Mobile, and still no word. Looks like Samsung earned my purchase this time.
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Not everything is about the US, Asia and EU launch is way more important especially for a budget phone. Asus also tends to sell unlocked which isn't very popular in the US. Blame your country.
Calm down evolution, it's coming to the USA on April 28th. Shouldn't be too long from now.
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Calm down evolution, it's coming to the USA on April 28th. Shouldn't be too long from now.
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Has there been an official announcement for the date? Can't wait for it.
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Has there been an official announcement for the date? Can't wait for it.
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Asus said that there would be a press conference in New York on the 28th. For North Americans, that's when the official price will be announced.?
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Everything I heard and read about the device was saying the end of March. It wasn't exactly communicated though which regions it would be released or available in though after that point. It was common knowledge it would be a Taiwan/Asia release then wherever else AFAIK. That's how Asus has operated before. I understand the impatience and can sympathize some. It still comes off as petulant though.
I find it quite unprofessional to have people pre order a device in September and have them arrive 2 months later. How can you announce your best phone ever (for both companies) and be so woefully prepared for the demand it might incur? I'm having second thoughts on getting the phone since I have no idea when I might receive mine since Google and Huawei have yet to get their act together in rolling out the product
Have you tried buying any previous nexus? By far the best release yet!
Doesn't your pre-order have a date? That would be the latest you would have your unit shipped.
No, I'm OK with it.
Yep, best by far. Especially after being involved with the 4, 5 and 6 failed launches!
This is my favorite so far. No issues thus far.
Best handling it this way rather than having people refresh the page every second because product went out of stock within 2 minutes of release.(previous nexus releases)
Very happy.
Order date: Sep 29, 2015 1:05:16 PM CDT Estimated delivery date: November 10 – 12, 2015.
Phone will be delivered to me tomorrow.
Ordering process yes. However... Shipping order is jacked up AGAIN. Ordered 9/29 within 15 min of link going live. 32GB Graphite. There are people with tracking information that purchased 10/21 and have shipping confimation while mine sits in processing purgatory. Card was final charged 3 days ago. Still hasn't gone anywhere. This happens to me every year.
Almost as bad as a Best Buy launch ....
I don't mind this release style at all. I really don't see what OP concern is. Google has turned a 'quickest to order before servers crash' to 'just order and be patient, we won't charge you'
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Disappointment? That would imply I had expectations which conflict with what was promised. I have no such expectations.
In the announcement event, they simply said "later in October" concerning ship dates. During the preorder process, everything was clearly spelled out. How could I be disappointed? My only expectation is that the products I ordered will arrive safely by the time they indicated.
I'm pleased with the order process this time around. As for delays well that is common on pre orders these days. I'm just happy that I got to order, much better than trying to catch a one or two minute in stock window like in the past.
Disappointed, nah. one of the biggest tech company in world can't handle preorder. How the hell do you sell out preorder? Just take the damn order and give a 4-5 weeks eta. Don't tell me you can't get huawei to make your phones in 5 weeks.
I'm rather disappointed that Germany was not a part of the countries that could preorder it first. I simply don't get it...
It's a pain yes. But it happens this way every year. I'm just surprised they haven't fixed it much over the years. I'm waiting on a Frost 64GB - No one has gotten a Frost yet, so we'll see if the ship date is hit, Nov 2.
http://gizmodo.com/if-you-ordered-a-nexus-6p-and-it-hasn-t-shown-up-good-1739119538
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Like previous people have mentioned. Most (if not all) of the Nexus launches were pretty terrible.
I wasn't expecting much so no .. not disappointed.
I ordered, was given an estimated ship date and it has shipped early. I call that a success.
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I find it quite unprofessional to have people pre order a device in September and have them arrive 2 months later. How can you announce your best phone ever (for both companies) and be so woefully prepared for the demand it might incur? I'm having second thoughts on getting the phone since I have no idea when I might receive mine since Google and Huawei have yet to get their act together in rolling out the product
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You do realise that these were pre-orders, right? This is exactly how the concept of a pre-order works.
Dissapointed, yes. The roll out in the US might be not that bad. But there are other countries besides US. In Europe we are still waiting to preorder. Such a slow rollout. Google needs to learn from Apple and bring their **** together and roll out the devices from day one.